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Eating ourselves to death: Britain's fat epidemic

Obesity was cited as cause of death in 1,200 cases in 2007, an increase of more than a third in just five years. Experts say the true number is much higher

By Nina Lakhani

Deaths caused by obesity have risen 35 per cent in five years

AFP

Deaths caused by obesity have risen 35 per cent in five years

The number of people whose deaths are directly related to obesity has leapt by 35 per cent since 2003, according to new figures obtained by The Independent on Sunday.

Obesity was cited on death certificates as a contributing factor in 1,203 deaths in England and Wales in 2007, highlighting how the incidence of related diseases such as diabetes, heart disease and blood clots continues to rise alarmingly. The outlook is believed to be as serious in Scotland.

Experts warn that these figures are the tip of the iceberg, as the majority of obesity-related deaths are not being recorded on death certificates.

Opposition politicians last night seized on the figures as the first statistical sign of obesity's increasing causal role in death. They accused the Government of "dithering" and failing to tackle the country's weight epidemic effectively.

Meanwhile, senior doctors called for guidance to help junior colleagues record obesity more consistently and provide better evidence for assessing the effectiveness of efforts to curb the problem.

Professor Alan Maryon-Davies, president of the UK's Faculty of Public Health, said: "These figures add to the growing evidence that obesity is increasing at an alarming rate and is associated with a whole range of fatal conditions. While the numbers may partly reflect a growing awareness among doctors about obesity and its effects, I'm in no doubt that they also represent a real increase in obesity-related deaths. Obesity is not something to joke about; it is a huge public health problem, a burden on the NHS, and it shortens people's lives."

Anne Milton, the shadow health minister who obtained the figures from the Office of National Statistics, said: "Labour has neglected the UK's obesity time bomb, and these figures demonstrate the awful consequences of their complacency. We urgently need action now, but unfortunately this Government's record has been one of obesity targets missed and scrapped, budgets for information campaigns being raided, and dithering over food labelling. It is about time the Government woke up and started to take obesity seriously."

A major report last year suggested that most adults in the UK are overweight, and obesity has roughly doubled since the 1980s. If the trend continues, obese and overweight people are predicted to cost taxpayers in England £50bn a year by 2050 in increased use of the NHS and other services.

Obesity increases the risk of many life-threatening diseases. A recent study found a 74 per cent rise in new cases of diabetes between 1997 and 2003; 80 per cent of people diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes are overweight, according to Diabetes UK. Heart disease is the biggest killer. According to the National Heart Forum around 6 per cent of deaths from coronary heart disease are due to obesity. Yet only 6 per cent of people understood the gravity of being overweight, most seeing fat as a vanity issue, said the Government's Chief Medical Officer, Sir Liam Donaldson.

Norman Lamb, the Lib Dem health spokesman, said: "This is the first indication that the worst possible consequence of the obesity epidemic is with us now. We already knew that obesity has led to an increase in very serious conditions, but these figures now show us that obesity is having an impact on death rates right now. The big worry is that if the epidemic is not brought under control, we could see life expectancy drop for the first time in decades. I don't believe these figures can be written off by claims of better recording. I fear this is a sign of things to come."

There have been longstanding concerns about the accuracy of death certificates, something the Government has promised to address in the Coroners and Justice Bill. A study in 2005 found that pathologists failed to mention obesity in two-thirds of cases, even when the individual was grossly obese with a BMI of over 40.

The pathologist: 'Doctors are being asked to lie'

Dr Emyr Benbow, histopathologist at Manchester Royal Infirmary and post-mortem expert at the Royal College of Pathologists, is concerned about a growing problem

"The number of severely obese people we see on the autopsy table has shot up in the past 10 years. Although we weigh and measure all those patients who have post-mortem examinations, so that BMIs can be calculated, we don't calculate trends. But we know there is change because we have to handle the bodies, something which has become a real hazard for our technical staff. A lot of hospitals have had to install wider fridges.

"Over the same period we have seen more cases of people in their thirties, forties and fifties with very high BMIs who have unexpectedly died in the community from conditions such as pulmonary embolism and deep vein thrombosis, in which obesity is very likely to play a part. These are significant changes and are reflected in the fact that my colleagues are increasingly willing to record obesity on the reports they make to the coroner.

"Many pathologists still do not record obesity on death certificates because they are worried about offending relatives. I know of a number of instances where doctors, including pathologists, and coroners have been asked to remove obesity from the death certificate because the family find the term stigmatising. But while the numbers may be an underestimate, the upward trend in these new figures is hugely important as we now know more people are dying of obesity and its effects.

"It is vital that doctors become confident about recording obesity. Unless we have accurate information it is very difficult to influence government policies."

The survivor: 'This killed both my parents – I've got to break the cycle for my daughters'

Mandie Preston, 32, has lost both parents and her older sister to obesity-related diseases in the past seven years. But it was seeing her mother's death certificate that gave her the impetus to change

"My dad Sid died first, in 2002. He was big, diabetic, and died from heart failure. Six months later I lost my mum, Carole, aged 64. She was a terribly, terribly big lady – 26 stone at her heaviest – and had struggled with her weight her whole life. We always knew it could end up killing her – the doctors had repeatedly told us so. But to read the phrase 'morbidly obese' on her death certificate still felt like a slap in the face. I knew she was fat, but here it was written down.

"Mum had Type 2 diabetes, kidney disease and a load of other problems related to her weight. It affected her health at every stage, so it was right for the doctor to record it on her death certificate. Then I lost my sister Fran, 34, from complications arising from her diabetes.

"Looking back, the words on my mum's death certificate sealed it for me. I knew then that if I didn't make changes I would end up going down the same route. I've been talking with my counsellor and I now understand why we had such an unhealthy relationship with food. I've lost two stone and am making sure my daughters have a very different relationship with food. Mum used it to comfort us and distract us if we were bored; I'm trying to break this cycle because it cost me my whole family."

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Hit the problem where it truly exists
[info]nled63 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 03:17 am (UTC)

Enough of this blame-game where the public is concerned. IF the government is serious about obesity, then it will target the appropriate offenders: Big Food. There is little point in berating a hard-pressed public to change its dietary ways when the alternatives to commercially adulterated foods are being systematically denied to that same public. Clean up the food industry, & we take a quantum leap in the direction of renewed dietary health.
[info]tonysmyth wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 06:36 am (UTC)
Sorry nled63 but that is just rubbish. Its avoiding taking personal responsibilty. My wife and I were horrified when we returned to Britain to see the food that customers in supermarkets were buying: Crisps packets the size of pillows, huge PET bottles of sugary drinks, microwavable dinners, most food in cans or packets. Nobody is denying fresh vegetables to these people - they are choosing not to buy them.
[info]rants_a_lot wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 03:14 pm (UTC)
Couldn't agree more, the number of times I've queued at the checkout and looked at other peoples shopping, a whole weeks worth of frozen or ready prepared crap with a token iceberg lettuce and pack of tomatoes. Then the usual line is trotted out "I've got a busy lifestyle and don't have the time to cook properly". Well if going to the pub, or watching TV is a bust lifestyle then fair enough, it can't be going to the gym or these people wouldn't be fat.
Simple
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 07:02 am (UTC)
The machine age ?
It'sLike smoking..
[info]fourpie wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 07:43 am (UTC)
It is like smoking. People have to accept the danger for themselves. I'd love to see the full adoption of the 'traffic light' system of food labelling, that the industry is so opposed to. They resist because they know it will work and dent their proffits. Sick, cynical capitalist greed at work again. In the end it comes down to an individual's choice, but they cannot make that choice without the information, which at the moment is difficult to absorb.
it is not the obesity..
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 07:47 am (UTC)
per se, that causes the diseased states, but the specific causes of obesity, that cause the diseases. Diabetes. A high intake of fructose syrup and refined sugars, triggers diabetes 2 and increases diabetes 1 risk. All grains contain lectins, plant phenols, (chemicals) that desensitise cell membranes to insulin, causing insulin over production. Grains also contain leptins, plant hormones that disturb signalling between liver and pancreas, disturbing insulin release. Insulin overproduction is associated with diabetes. Also to blame for diabetes is the pancreatic parasite, Eurytrema pancreatum, which can be destroyed with herbal, side-effect-free, black walnut tincture. Applying this knowledge, in many cases diabetes is cured; and will prevent it. Guidance that allows eating of these carbohydrates and blaming saturated fats, is misinformation. Heart disease. High carbohydrates, especially sugars and alcohol, raise triglycerides blood fats that are one of the 3 main causes of heart disease. (NO, it is not caused by dietary nor elevated blood cholesterol). The other two main causes being high homocysteine, lowered with suplemental Vitamin B6, B12, and folic acid; and high lipo-protein alpha lowered with supplemenatal vitamin C. Dog heart worm, Dilofilaria, is also associated with heart disease. Forget the side-effect-loaded fraudulent statins as a solution for anything. All these factors that cause diabetes and heart disease are the cause of obesity. Other identified causes of obesity, that are not involved in these common diseases are aspartame, MSG, soy, (with its toxic plant hormones that disrupt thyroid function); and blood pressure and anti-depressant medications. By eliminating the causes of obesity, you prevent the diseases and prevent the obesity. Be very caredful not to be trapped by pseudo-scientific nonsense that calories cause obesity. Also know that obesity does not cause cancer. Read the 668 page work The Cure and Prevention of All Cancers, 2007, H R Clark, PhD ND for the precisely identified causes and pathways. of all cancers. No not snake oil, false hope nor junk science, as the oncologists taunt, but protocols that tens of thousands of us now follow, I since the mid 90s. You may not have heard of this yet, but keep in mind that mainstream medicine took 400 years to accept the natural cure for scurvy, that was vitamin C.
Re: it is not the obesity..
[info]carbs_hurt wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:07 am (UTC)
tommytcg you are so right. Did everyone read what this man wrote?! He knows what the problem is caused by and the solution. Well done.
Re: it is not the obesity..
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 12:25 pm (UTC)
Just to prove a point, I may add that just as many, (if not more) thin people also suffer from diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer etc.
Re: it is not the obesity..
[info]wormery wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 03:27 pm (UTC)
UTTER PIFFLE - 'calories don't cause obesity' indeed. Idiots like you should be ignored. Eating lots and not doing much cause obesity, and the cure is not fad diets like the nonsense yoo recommend. there is no scientific evidence for the crap you spout - there IS scientific evidence that vitamin C is needed to prevent scurvy. A balanced diet of protein, carbs and fats, and a proper meals is what everyone should eat. Your pseudo-science is pathetic and wrong, as you could make stupid people ill. Prat. And diabetes cannot be cured you lying little twerp.
Re: it is not the obesity..
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 09:04 pm (UTC)
Insults such as yours point to the misinformation tactics of Big Pharma`s paid attack dogs. Go read up your physiology textbook on homeostatis mechanisms. Maybe you should also get up-to date on the science and not base you concepts on the 1950s garbage dished out by nutrition professors. As one nutrition professor lecturing at a Med. Uni. told me when I challemged her on the garbage that was taught, she confessed that she had to teach ...what was in the book. Who financed her Med. Uni? Mainly Big Pharma. Keep them sick and on drugs, and ignore the science, is the only way to make obscene profits.
Being a bit Overweight is healthy
[info]wormery wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 08:03 am (UTC)
The question is: what is obese? They use that stupid BMI to judge which is dumb (Brad Pitt is obese according to that) - in France they use calipers to measure fat around the waist.

Being overweight is not unhealthy; in fact quite the reverse: a bit of padding for emergencies is a good thing and being undersweight is gthe most unhealthy thing. Also, if you are 'overweight' and eat, and have always eaten, a healthy balanced diet you are way healthier than someone who isn;t who grew up on mummy's microwaved gloop. Smug thin people should realise that they may have very high cholesterol and so shouldn;t be so smug - a bit overweight is the healthiest.

There are so many factors here, soical class being the biggest, but also the health of one's mother, what she ate in pregnancy, what your diet as a small child was like. It is much healthier being over-weight like Churchill if one is middle-class (I mean old middle-class not just owning a mortgage - so much less than 50% of the population) than if one eats the diet of the council estate and fried chicken joint next door.

Just look at the obits: so many footballers (working class) die young despite being fit and slim. A middle-class person in the obits tend to die in their 80s. It's diet more than weight that is the issue we need to address. Having said that, one does see enormously fat people now (esp women) that one rarely saw 20 years ago - yet again we are aping the USA. In that past, work and housework kept people active; now a lot of 'busy homemakers' and 'full time mums' spend most of their time watching daytime TV and stuffing their faces. A good bit of manual housework would soon slim em down...
Eating ourselves to death: Britain's fat epidemic
[info]jack_smith77 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 10:26 am (UTC)
With choice vignettes like: "The number of severely obese people we see on the autopsy table has shot up in the past 10 years. ... A lot of hospitals have had to install wider fridges".

Really. Darwin said it's survival of the fittest, not the fattest!!. They die by their own hand - quite literally.

Of course, many would say one needs to show sympathy!! Britons really have lost their way. It's the same here in Australia. No personal responsibility and self-discipline here. Just endless self-indulgence.

Alternatively, this is clear evidence that industrial psychology, public relations and Pavlovian conditioning
on the part of the processed food companies really do work. To quote a mainland native Chinese colleague of mine - "If you told something over and over again, surely you must come o believe it".

Expect this problem to get worse.

Jack Smith - Australia
Stigma
[info]leonore35 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 10:48 am (UTC)
They find obesity on a death certificate which noone sees stigmatising but they don't find walking around like a hippo stigmatising. Don't these people have mirrors in their houses?
Also only 6% know obesity can be a health hazard, can't they read or do they just not want to read about this topic. Newspapers and magazines are constantly publicising this and yet you have writers like Clarkson saying the govt are nannying the public.
Damned if they do damned if they don't, you cannot blame everything on the govt, personal responsiblity is very necessary too. It is a myth that junk food is cheaper than fruit and veg. Good food is nutritious fast food is not. but we have a generation that has been raised by indulgent parents who have allowed families to get addicted to junk food
The Diet Delusion
[info]tedhutchinson wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:22 am (UTC)
Gary Taubes book The Diet Delusion, Sold in the USA as Good Calories Bad calories provides one explanation. He outlines in in his Berkeley lecture talk that you'll find online if you search for
The Quality of Calories: What Makes Us Fat and Why Nobody Seems to Care

I was obese. I listened to Gary Taubes. I followed his advice. I lost weigh easily and cheaply simply by not eating the foods that cause insulin to rise and fat storage to occur.
I followed this simple Swedish program
Dr Dahlqvist My Lowcarb Dietary Program in English
Without the need for extra exercise, calorie restriction or indeed carb counting I lost 2.25lbs each week until I reached my target weight. I've not regained weight as I continue to eat happily and cheaply following this plan.
The Cure for Obesity
[info]edotoole wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:27 am (UTC)
My cure for obesity potential DVD was rejected by the Dept of Health as they don't give grants to individuals - only usless organisations on a nod and wink basis.
This cure, which infuses celebral admittance that eating too much food causes fatness, was based on my song Too Fat To Frug, which can be heard at www.myspace.com/edotoole2
Basically, just sing and dance along with it for about 3 months and that's it. What's more it's permanent.
Food Nazi's
[info]chippychap wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 11:42 am (UTC)
I find it incredible how some try to "solve" obesity by draconian force.
We've demonised smokers, and are well on the way with drinkers.
To be facetious, I have this thing about ginger people.
I am not "big boned" do not have problems with my metabolism, I AM OBESE, morbidly so.
Rather than just attack everything that YOU are not, why don't folk try to remember that
we are all different.
I don't use MY NHS any more than sickly stick-thin people. My wife is diabetic and has had numerous
check-up appointments cancelled because the puny, holier-than-thou, salad bashing nurse has called in sick.
We ran our own business for 25 years, we worked 90 + hours per week and never had a day off ill, if YOU can match that then keep reading, bye bye the rest.
NOTHING makes me want to eat more than some preaching scrawny moaning t#at telling me that I am overweight...........DO YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW? Muppet
I could argue that the NHS shouldn't treat sportsmen, adventurers, smokers, drinkers, women who fancy a kid but can't manage it, folk with willies who wish they hadn't, the list could go on and on.
Stop trying to socially engineer us, live your OWN life, ye gods that's hard enough, without trying to live ours as well.
Food fanatics
[info]idontvote wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 12:59 pm (UTC)
We could start by banning these food porn programmes on TV, the more we advertise to these fatties, the more they will eat. (Like smoking)
Make overweight people pay more NHS contributions.
Counciling for parents of overweight children.
Or simply bring back rationing, if they cannot control themselves.
Resolve the problem:
[info]a22j wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 01:03 pm (UTC)
GO RAW VEGAN!!!! (:
SHOCK HORROR NEWS: FAT PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH!!!
[info]archaopteryx wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 02:45 pm (UTC)
I have news for you. Everybody dies, obese or not. Your researchers have simply discovered a remarkable coincidence between the fact that people die and the fact that people eat.

Britain's obestity epidemic is due to a neurotic relationship with food, and with pleasure in general, and to an excess of dieting. Everyone knows that 98% of diets fail and result in increased weight gain afterwards. The whole tone of this article, and of the many that have preceded it in the same vein, contributes to the problem. Stop hitting up on fat people, enjoy your food without denaturing your relationship to it, and this problem would not exist.
The problem starts at our stomachs!
[info]hang_the_dj_09 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 04:32 pm (UTC)
It is the PUBLIC who choose to eat unhealthy food, it is the PUBLIC who decide whether or not to exercise, and it is the PUBLIC who are to blame, no one else. And the public are you and me, not some MP sitting scratching their head in the house of commons trying to figure out how to cut down obesity rates. Their are plenty of healthy food options, just as their are plenty of healthy exercise activities available. The public are made aware of slimming options available to them, and healthy food, and healthy lifestyles. It's plastered on the magazines we read, the television we watch, and the adverts we see. Therefore, the public are the only people to blame for rising obesity rates, not the government. I'm sure everyone knows the difference between a chocolate bar and a piece of fruit, just as they know the difference between an exercise bike and a sofa.
Eating too much.
[info]eve57 wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 05:25 pm (UTC)
I agree with tonysmyth. I, too, noticed the weight gain in England on my trips home. This started in the late 80s around about the time that fast food 'joints' were popping up all over England. I heard something in a lecture recently, "Avoid packaged foods in the supermarket, if it's got a label, don't buy it." It's an easy indicator of what is not healthy. Since the late 80s the size and numbers of fat people seems to increase every time I'm over there. It's almost as though no one there notices fat anymore. In all fairness, no one wants to be fat. I don't like to blame the government, but I have to compare the UK to here (Vancouver). Where I live, in a small area of downtown there are three very comprehensive community centres, with gyms, ice rink, dance studio - you name it. There are hundreds of classes being offered at the CC's, from gym, languages, painting/writing to all the exercize/dance programs you can think of. They are run by the local government and they're inexpensive. For instance a dance class by a prof' teacher will cost $10.00 drop in, less if you pay for the course, lessons are from 60 to 90 min's. If someone is on welfare, these classes are reduced so that person can attend. In addition to the CC's there are private fitness centres (usually their instructors are not as well trained) and we have many swimming pools, also offering classes in aerobics, swimming instruction, diving and so on. Comparitively speaking our gyms and services are much better than those I've seen in the UK. Also, the costs in the UK are much higher - profit motivated. You can't expect the Natiion to lose weight when the government does not provide incentive to do so, (see U Tube participaction commercials to the general public in the 80's - brain washing really works) or the means to afford to do it. On the other side of the coin, I do think this generation are lazy. I have seen hugely fat women driving their kids to school only one block. The other loaded reason might be - the amount of alcohol the English now drink. I have been horrified at the booze they are trucking out of the supermarkets. Do people think there are no calories in liquor? It's a personal thing, if you've got a weight problem, you have to realise it's your own fault and accept responsibility and stop making excuses. You're not that busy. If you are that busy, get your children off their backsides, turn off the TV, and get them to help you. I think when the NHS are spending hundreds of thousands of pounds for reinforced toilet seats and beds, the government have to step in and do something, the cost to the NHS is taking money out of other areas of the service and that money could be better spent - and this is just the beginning. I don't mean to put England down and Vancouver up in this writing, you should hear me complain about the shootings in Vancouver, but that's another topic.
BMI not a perfect measure but so what
[info]frwilliams wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 07:01 pm (UTC)
Wormery says - "They use that stupid BMI to judge which is dumb (Brad Pitt is obese according to that)". Well actually, according to BMI Brad Pitt is (or was 2-3 years ago when all the articles were written) overweight, not obese, but let's not split hairs. The BMI is not a fool-proof measure and health professionals have recognized this, but it can still identify the increasing trend. What? Are people suddenly all becoming big-boned or something? As several commentators have remarked, you only have to look around you to see how obesity (i.e. blubbery fat people, never mind their BMI) is increasing. Basing arguments on a criticism of the BMI system is clutching at straws and trying to shoot the messenger - if you can do both at the same time!
fat
[info]matboo wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
very good info tommy, i cant agree more
Obesity
[info]rttech82 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 01:09 pm (UTC)
I have a friend whom I have known for years who has become WAY overweight (375 LBS) and has a host of health issues as a result including diabetes and heart problems just to name a couple.

RT
www.privacy.at.tc
Fat is not to blame
[info]deeflymaster wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 02:04 pm (UTC)
The healthy eating message that the government diktats are spouting is wrong, look around you, the more we cut good fats, eat more grains, eat more fruit and take in ever more additives and artificial sweetners the fatter we become. Time for a seachange. Try changing the whole thing about, more butter, more meat, less cereals/sugars, more dairy, cut down on fruit and no additives. The results are astounding, lean healthy disease free bodies. Why haven't the white coats caught onto this? Because they would have to admit they were wrong, that's why. Advising someone to eat what Nature provides for them rather than chemical concoctions and foods that bodies cannot digest like wheat and polyunsaturated vegetable oils, is free, and as everyone knows, there is no such thing as a free lunch. But there is. Dr Atkins was right all along, low carb cures, high carb kills. The evidence is staring you in the face if you are a carb eater and look in the mirror. Sweden have realised that low carb is THE way to go and their government has admitted their failings with 'healthy' eating and now advise the low carb path. Time the British Government got out from under the control of the food production industries, the flour, grain and sugar industries, and more importantly, the big pharma, time they read the evidence and admitted they got it wrong. For the sake of the future of this nation, healthy eating as advised really is a big fat polyunsatured lie.
[info]dana_kake wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC)
Dear Doctors and friends,
Hi, I would like to thankyou all for these lovely article and comments in order to make mpeople beaware of obesity and its effects. Publishing articles in the future I am sure make people to get more information and to get their lesson from peoples experiences. Well done guys

Dana Kake
Australia/Sydney
Obesity
[info]aky292b wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 06:43 pm (UTC)
Hi, obesity is a difficult subject to address. Is it due to lack od discipline and poor lifestyle or can there be other causes. If we look at obese people closely, they rarely suffer from obesity alone. Many have colonic disorders such as irritable bowel syndreome, fissure, eczema, allergic rhinitis, topical dermatitis, psoriasis, sleep disorders, wheezing, rancid flatulance, unstable stools and many other such symptoms. Is there a single cause that can cause obesity to set in and at the same time together with many or all of the above mentioned conditions. Frankly, there is. It is estimated that 90% of the worlds population are infected with parasitical and fungal disorders simultaneously. Some live with this condition quite well and seem to keep on top of it, establishing a sort of balence. Some do not fare so well and over time show a wide range of chronic symptoms. Needless to say a stressful lifestyle does not help this condition either. Doctors, for some reason never seem to think that such a wide range of symptoms can come from a single causative factor and dispite their medical training which tells them that this is possible, even quite common, seem to prefer to let issues drag on and on. One gets the impression that the NHS is scrutinizing every test sent and anything out of the ordinary, such as a test for parasites and certain strains of clostridium would raise objections that many doctors would try to avoid at all costs. I would like to suggest that the NHS take sample areas and test patients much more throughly for anything and everything and see if the results don't show that there may well be some microscopic culprits for obesity. Long term, this might save the NHS a heck of a lot of money.
Intemperate alnguage
[info]leonore35 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 08:34 am (UTC)
Firstly I think calling people names should be grounds for deletion here, Deeflymaster is clearly very confused talking about fruit and veg in the same sentence as additives and sugar. Sugar is the great enemy which was almost unknown before the 19th Century, now it is in everything processed and also hugely present in all those drinks people are obsessed with. Empty carbs. Try water, juice and low fat milk they are delicious!
I admit I am lucky with my genes but I lost about ten kg while on my boat in the summer due to limited access to food and have put it back since then now weighing 76 kg. The lesson - Eat Less to lose weight, it is not rocket science. I also weight train 3 times a week in a gym so most of it is muscle.
I eat very little processed food but have a pizza once a fortnight as treat.
By the way I am 73
I would be ashamed to go out if I looked like some of the obese people I see, dont they have mirrors in their homes? Don't they have any pride in their appearnce? Clealy not
Re: Intemperate alnguage
[info]deeflymaster wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 04:44 pm (UTC)
I am not confused, I have a particular interest in nutrition and know exactly what I mean. Fruit consumption has increased but fruit today is nothing but colourful bags of sugar water, fructose, the main instigator in many cases of diabetes 2. Cutting down on fruit and starchy veg, but not green leafy veg, removes a lot of unnecessary sugar and starches from the diet that the body finds difficult to deal with - metabolic syndrome due to excess insulin needed to deal with excess carbs. Fruit and veg should be treated as two separate entities, they are not interchangeable. Low fat milk is a waste of time, without the fat the vitamins can't be utilised and calcium can't be used without the vitamins. Full fat milk is best, just use less. I never eat processed food, I never eat fruit except that which I grow myself. I eat meat, fish, fat (no polys), dairy, green veg and never, ever any sugar or wheat - the two biggest killers. Low fat isn't in my dictionary because I know it is so unhealthy. I am not overweight, I am fit and healthy and all my bloodworks are normal. 'Healthy eating' dogma is all wrong, it is focusing on the wrong foods. You don't have to eat less to lose weight, you have to eat differently and your body will find its own weight. Why not read a great book called Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, or Trick and Treat by Barry Groves, these will open your eyes to just how awfully bad Government 'healthy eating' advice is.
National Food Survey statistics
[info]fuchsiaperfect wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 11:48 am (UTC)
According to the National Food Survey statistics, average calorie consumption has dropped from 2260 kcal per person in 1974 to 1750 kcal per person in 2000 - the most recent year available on the http://www.statistics.gov.uk website. Yet in the 1970s I rarely saw any obese people in the UK whereas now I see them every day. Doesn't the lack of exercise also have something to do with the increase in obesity?
Fat
[info]johnnywi wrote:
Thursday, 12 March 2009 at 06:02 am (UTC)
It's a matter of self control. This is true of sex, Aacohol, food, drugs, smoking or anything else. People don't have the abilty or desire to deny themselves anything. Why the hell do you think the world is going to pot?
Abeast people
[info]mikelcumslard wrote:
Monday, 16 March 2009 at 03:25 pm (UTC)
These fatties need to lose some weight because we are now going to be taxed on chocolate bars. Lose weight punks! If they are too fat there choads will increase in gerth!
[info]jambomax wrote:
Sunday, 10 May 2009 at 07:00 pm (UTC)
Hey guys, i am writting an esa on this and i would appreceate it if you sent who you blame and why to j-henderson@hotmail.co.uk, thankyou.


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