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MMR row blamed for measles outbreak

By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor

The number of cases of measles rose by more than a third last year, to reach the highest total since records for the illness began.

There were 1,348 cases in England and Wales in 2008, a 36 per cent increase on the previous year.

Half of the cases (662) of the potentially fatal disease occurred in London, where the MMR vaccination rates are lowest, the Health Protection Agency (HPA), which published the figures, said. It was a record number of measles cases in the capital. Records have been kept since 1995.

Nationally, 88.3 per cent of children have had their first MMR dose, given at around 14 months, and 76.3 per cent have had the second dose at age five, according to the latest available figures for September 2008.

But in London vaccination rates are as low as 29.9 per cent (in Hackney), well below those in the rest of the country. In two-thirds of boroughs, fewer than 70 per cent of children have received both doses, and in eight boroughs the total vaccinated is less than half – Brent, Hackney, Hammersmith, Hounslow, Islington, Kensington, Lewisham and Wandsworth.

Warnings from scientists last summer that Britain faced a greater threat of an epidemic, with up to 100,000 people infected, than at any time for decades led ministers to launch a "catch-up" campaign aimed at parents who had failed to vaccinate their children. More than one million doses of vaccine were stockpiled and primary care trusts ordered to identify unvaccinated children and encourage their parents to bring them in for injection. A spokesperson for the HPA said it was too early to say if vaccination rates had increased.

Dr Mary Ramsay, an expert on immunisation at the HPA said: "The year-on-year increase of measles across England and Wales is very worrying. Last year saw the highest number of cases since the current method of monitoring the disease was introduced in 1995.

"The majority of these cases could have been prevented, as most were in children who were not fully protected with MMR. There are still many children out there who were not vaccinated as toddlers in the past decade."

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What a hero!
[info]hctbn wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 01:16 am (UTC)
When I was young (in the 50s and 60s) measles was common and sometimes serious. The MMR went a long way to removing the threat until Dr Wakefield opened his (probably well meaning, but paid) gob and raised the spectre of a link to autism. The science was dodgy and has since been proved to be wrong, but of course it stuck with the media and was amplified, as only the very naive would fail to predict (and I don't believe he was naive). The result is a few parents of Autistic children rate him as a hero and have even awarded him (Age of Autism Awards 2008 Galileo Award) whilst other parents will be mourning the loss of children killed by his biased opinions and the resultant media bean feast.

Let us put the blame for the measles outbreaks where it really lies. And we can add the Rubella and Mumps outbreaks when they also come along.

Bob Miller
Re: What a hero!
[info]pleasegetreal wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 08:44 am (UTC)
This is just so unbelievably stupid. Parents of children who become sick should be forced to pay out of pocket for all the health care expenses of treatment. Why should NHS be forced to assume the burden of idiocy?
Measles outbreak
[info]cadmanp wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 08:34 am (UTC)
Much of the hysteria over the 'dangers' of the MMR vaccination was whipped up by irresponsible sections of the UK press. This, rather than the opinions of one doctor, has been the major cause of the outbreak. Newspapers rage about the deficiencies of politicians, but accusations of 'power without responsibility' could be directed back at cynical journalists.
Measles
[info]retired01 wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)
The outbreak can, to some extent, be blamed on the government.

Rightly or wrongly parents refused to give their children the MMR jab because they were worried about a link to autism.

There was, and still is, an option of single vaccines. The government refused to make these available on the NHS. If they had made them available we might not have this situation.

If the object is to immunise children why did the government have to take a stance of MMR or nothing?

Not having the MMR jab might not be a good decision by parents.

Not offering the viable alternative is an arrogant and stupid decision by the government.
Re: Measles
[info]deductivo wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 05:23 pm (UTC)
But the NHS only has so much money and in a time of stringency cannot reasonably expect more. Single vaccines are more expensive than MMR which means that funding for them would have to come from elsewhere; meaning cutbacks in other potentially life-saving, but less news-worthy, areas.

Why is it unreasonable for the government to base decisions concerning the allocation of funding on available scientific evidence, of which there is a great deal (go to Google Scholar and type in "MMR" and "autism"), which has not been able to establish any link between MMR and autism? You suggest that spending priorities should be determined by a prejudiced and scientifically illiterate public whose opinions have largely been determined by, at best, an equally illiterate and ignorant media (I say "at best" because the only other alternative is that people have been deliberately mislead in order to raise advertising revenues and I'm not one for conspiracy theories).
MMR Debate
[info]nhs_conmed wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 09:42 am (UTC)
Surely everyone should get vaccinated against measles. It is such an awful disease, and major killer, and this particular epidemic, over 1000 cases. Gosh! I consider my mother irresponsible, taking me to measles parties. And medical descriptions of the disease (prior to MMR) were just so so wrong. It is a killer.

And besides, what is wrong with vaccinations? Most of them may contain a substance based on mercury, one of the biggest poisons known to human-kind. But it is gradually being removed, from at least some vaccinations now. Okay, so it is being replaced substances based on Aluminium, but that is not too bad (is it?)

And all these parents who have normal children until they receive the DPT, or MMR vaccination - and then they contract serious diseases - or die. Clearly, they don't know what they are talking about. We absolutely know this because all those nice scientists have told us that their randomised, double-blind trials (*sponsored by those nice drug companies?) have demonstrated that vaccinations are quite safe.

So lets not worry over-much. Lets all go and get our measure of mercury, or aluminium, and inject it into our bloodstreams. It is the only sensible thing to do - if we want to avoid measles.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]pleasegetreal wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 10:35 am (UTC)
Good work nhs_conmed. Just string together a bunch of incorrect facts and pretend like it's the truth. Everybody out there is too stupid anyway to know the difference, and you will seem like you're the smartest man alive.

TRUTH: Thimerosal, allegedly "one of the biggest poisons known to human-kind" is not used in MMR vaccines. But actually writing correct information would derail your own agenda, whatever it may be.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]natnutrition wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 12:50 pm (UTC)
What incorrect facts? Everything he aludes to is true to some degree (apart from the confusion over measles and chicken pox). Yes measles can kill in a small number of cases (less than 1 in 2000 in the UK) but so do vaccines - do a VAERS search and have a look. Correct thimerosol is no longer in MMR, which the poster also noted is being removed from some vaccines now people have actually cottoned on to the fact the pharmaceutical industry were using Mercury to extend their shelf-lifes (and margins) while also shortening our shelf lives! but they are still using Al compounds, which are linked to alzheimers, cancer and all sorts. Vaccines are big business for pharma, and there's a lot af propaganda out there - it's good to hear some of us aren't completely deceived by it all and take a suspicious view of the industry - it's right to - do a search on Codex Alimentarius. Has your teenage daughter been pressurised yet to have HPV vaccinne 'just in case' she contracts cervical cancer by having under-age sex? A vaccine that is ineffective against 12 or the 16 forms of HPV and is no longer effective after she's 17. What is that all about? MMR uptake wont go upto safe levels until the pharmaceutical industry cleans up its act.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]jen_mac wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 07:05 pm (UTC)
Correct thimerosol is no longer in MMR...>>>

The MMR never had thimerosal. Putting thimerosal in a live virus vaccine would kill the live virus.

All that aside, though...Vaccination is most definitely linked to autism...just in a way that most people haven't considered. Acetaminophen, probably better known in the UK as Calprol, is often given in conjunction with vaccines, either before, or in the days following vaccination to suppress fever and irritability. This drug depletes glutathione, a very important antioxidant that is needed in large quantities in the human body to filter out all sorts of harmful substances, including mercury. Give this to a baby in conjunction with vaccines, and you are disabling that child's detoxification system. This is why so many autistic children have gut issues. Glutathione concentrations are highest in the small bowel and lungs. Interestingly, this drug has also been linked to asthma...and no one seems to be discouraging its use. Wonder why?
Stupidity.
[info]tatcawh wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 10:38 am (UTC)
Your mother never took you to a measles party, conmed. No mother ever did.

Some people may have arranged for their children to become infected with CHICKENPOX. Chickenpox is the least serious of common childhood infections, but the symptoms can be rather more severe if the disease is contracted as an adult, so there might have thought there was a case for deliberately infecting children.

MEASLES was the most serious of common childhood infections. It killed about 1 in every thousand children who contracted it, and for every child that was killed, many more survived but with permanent damage. Measles becomes less dangerous as the child becomes older (http://www.ajph.org/cgi/reprint/70/11/1166.pdf), so there is no case for deliberately giving it to your children. Your mother would have known that.

Shame you didn't think to do some basic fact-checking before perpetuating dangerous misinformation. You might at least have asked your mum.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]boudica_brown wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 10:59 am (UTC)
Okay, let us try this again for the benefit of the paranoid and ill-informed: there is no causal link between autism and MMR or any vaccine.

Autism begins to show itself at the same age that the MMR vaccine is given. That is the tangential link. Not a causal one. Autism is genetic.

If we start using our brains and not falling prey to these campaigns of paranoia, our children would be safer.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]jen_mac wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 07:11 pm (UTC)
Okay, let us try this again for the benefit of the paranoid and ill-informed: there is no causal link between autism and MMR or any vaccine.>>>

Sorry, my friend, but you are the one who is ill-informed. None of the epidemiological studies are picking up a link to vaccinations, because NONE of them factor in the use of antipyretics. Try reading a little bit about glutathione depletion and why perhaps Calprol isn't such a good thing to give to babies in conjunction with vaccines.
Re: MMR Debate
[info]jen_mac wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 07:18 pm (UTC)
correction: calpol
MMR Madness
[info]boudica_brown wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 10:53 am (UTC)
I have a relative who lost a child at 6 months pregnant and was herself terribly ill after catching Rubella (German Measles) from an unvaccinated child at her oldest son's birthday party. Thanks Dr Wakefield. Thanks to all you paranoid and ill-informed parents who would rather believe in medical conspiracy theories than in hard scientific fact and decades of millions of children in Europe, USA, Japan, Canada, Australia, South America... all vaccinated without the so-called "link" to autism.

Fact: autism is genetic. Fact: there may be tests that can detect autism in a fetus on the womb soon available (well before MMR is offered, no!). Fact: links exist between autism and male gender and mathmatics ability and ability to play chess well.... all arenas that rely on the same part of a brain and a combination of certain hormones working on the brain. These are firm links, hard facts, real science from peoplt not being paid by pharmaceutical companies like Dr Wakefield was, to skew their facts.

When will MMR uptake go back to safe levels? When some children die of one of the three potentially fatal illness, when children start showing up to school scarred in the ways their grandparents and great-grandparents used to be after recovering.... scarred and dead children. Great. Again, thanks Dr Wakefield.
MMR
[info]jen_bryte wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 01:05 pm (UTC)
I'm still not convinced as to the safety of MMR, I certainly don't believe it's safe just because the Government says so. This is the same British government who told us that humans couldn't catch mad cow disease remember, and we had that MP pushing a beefburger into his child's face to prove his point. My child's head teacher told me that in recent years she had personally witnessed autism cases rise sevenfold in her school, and that her colleagues around the country had told her they'd experienced the same thing. I wonder why? Hmmm.

I would also be interested to see a breakdown of who actually has been contracting measles. I wonder if it is within communities that have a high immigrant population, who might have come from countries where measles is endemic? And I wonder if immigrants are routinely checked to see whether they have been vaccinated against measles (and other infectious diseases come to think of it)? Why haven't they released this information? I don't see the point in releasing some data, but not all, because then statistics can be misleading. If many of these cases have been imported, and the majority of British kids have been vaccinated (which they have) then the chances of an epidemic amongst British kids is pretty remote, isn't it? The HPA should give us all the information, not just some of it, so we can make an informed decision regarding this matter.

MMR row blamed for measles outbreak
[info]petersrock wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 01:18 pm (UTC)
The blame for the measles outbreak needs to be placed squarely where it belongs.

That is with the weasels and liars placed high up in the government and the NHS.

Education in the UK has reached the point where most people can read. In spite of the education system, we are also quite good at reasoning for ourselves. Where obvious hiding of the truth and deliberate dissemination of lies is taking place, people tend to stop believing.

That is the position in which parents of tiny children find themselves. They agonise to find the best way to ensure the health of their much-loved children.

Prerhaps an operation to remove the liars and weasel-speakers from the system would be a good way to produce a reduction of measels? It is bound to take a long time, because trust, once broken, is very difficult to mend.

in relation to MMR vaccine: Mercury in the human system is not recommended as it damages human tissue. For that reason, over a number of years, mercury fillings have been removed from teeth.

The NHS/Politicians told us that mercury was not contained in the MMR vaccine, so children could not have been made ill by it. Yet here were large numbers of previously healthy toddlers who were faiiling ill - and remaining ill.

With autism on the rise, and every 'expert' denying it. With previously fit and healthy children becoming ill and very little help being given to desperate parents, by know-nothing 'experts', is it any wonder that parents trust levels were reduced. 1 in 80 children born in the UK will develop Autism Spectrum Disorder. That is a frighteningly large number of children.

Then Parents began to opt for three separated vaccines. in case it was the triple that was causing the illness. The NHS/Politicians said they could not have separated vaccines - and tried to enforce the use of the Triple.

Then they said that there was - after all mercury, even in the single measles injection.

Then they said the mercury, (which they had previously denied) was now removed from the MMR vaccine.

Why would any parent trust people who didn't ever tell the truth?

Parents with no trust are still desperately trying to work out what to do. Who can they trust, except for the 'experts' - who are not trustworthy?
Measles Outbreak
[info]peter_holl wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
Amid all the statistics on the increase in measles and decline in vaccination, one figure is missing. How many of those who caught measles were vaccinated?
Measles epidemic
[info]jbensonphd wrote:
Friday, 6 February 2009 at 02:54 pm (UTC)
The article failed to say if any of those confirmed cases who had received the vaccine, contracted the disease?
John L. Benson, Ph.D.
Re: Measles epidemic
[info]c_rudd wrote:
Saturday, 7 February 2009 at 08:26 am (UTC)
Peter_holl and jbensonphd ask the most pertinent question that seems to never be published in vaccination articles but how can we find out the missing statistic? How many of those who contracted measles were in fact vaccinated? We might then be able to better judge if the measles vaccine (or any other) actually work. Without this key figure it is difficult as a parent to make an informed choice if we are not given the full picture. Does anyone know where we can obtain these figures?
Measles is not all that serious
[info]helkie wrote:
Saturday, 7 February 2009 at 04:33 am (UTC)
When I was young (in the 50s and 60s) measles was common, as were mumps and chicken pox, but they were rarely serious, at least not in the somewhat "developed" world in the post-WWII/baby-boom era in Canada. My parents scoff at the idea of these common childhood diseases being considered "dread" diseases, because during those years our parents had every confidence that we would overcome those diseases easily, and we did. At our school, unfortunate incidents to schoolmates were usually announced over the public address system. I recall several announcements about students getting hit by cars, trying to cross main streets without crossings ( a few additional crossings have been added near my parents home recently, over 40 years after the initial accidents), but there were none about students succumbing to any of these childhood diseases. My sister and I had the measles, mumps, and chicken pox, and these illnesses were only minor nuisances for us. Our parents certainly weren't panicking when we were ill these.
"MMR row blamed for measles outbreak"
[info]basiliouno wrote:
Saturday, 7 February 2009 at 07:40 pm (UTC)
Nothing in the body of this article said anything about any MMR row or who was blaming it for the measles outbreak. So why use that headline?

The first line was also alarmist, saying that the number of cases had reached "the highest total since records began"; it led straight on to the figures in England and Wales. It was not until the third paragraph that it was revealed the records referred to London only and dated back a mere thirteen years.

This falls short of the journalistic standards that I expect from the Independent.
Re: "MMR row blamed for measles outbreak"
[info]nipperdip wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 03:45 pm (UTC)
Without a breakdown of the statistics it is difficult for parents to assess the real potential risks from measles and the effectiveness of the MMR vaccination. We need to know what percentage of children/young adults who contracted measles in 2008 had been vaccinated, and how many suffered any serious complications?

Why hasn't the Health Protection Agency published figures for mumps and rubella? Logically, the incidences of these diseases should also have risen.
MMR Row
[info]stuartlane wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 04:56 pm (UTC)
When will authorities get the message?! Parents are so worried about the MMR that they prefer to going without or pay for seperate immunisations. The separate jabs have a proven track record and were available for free for many years (they still are across Europe). Offer people a choice and lets get back on track with our immunisation program before lives are lost.

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