"Ever since then," he continues, "we promised ourselves we'd do what we want to do, which was a funky tip, but again that stuff didn't convince people either. Then Daft Punk broke and, hey, it was OK, we were put in the big-beat section in the shops and everything's working now.
"Indeed music has moved on in the right direction for us. Hip-hoppy, funky, big-beaty, breakbeaty stuff or whatever you want to call it seems to be in vogue and the scene is coming round. I'm wary of tags as they can turn into fads and fads do come and go, but there seems to be quite an eclectic umbrella. It seems to be a really good thing to be part of even though we've found ourselves included in it pretty much by accident."
The acceptance of the Hoodwink vibe has also cleared the way for them to start up a club night where they and one other live band play live; this time around, they have Junior Blanks who number some former Collapsed Lung people (of the Coca-Cola "Eat My Goal" advert fame).
"Live sets are really important. We like to try to strip down and expose the Big Beat sound with jams that usually start off with the DJ just playing a beat, then I play a Moog, we bring a funky bass line in and add some mad guitar. In fact playing live for us is just like being DJs - we can take people from beats to funk and also bring the crowd up and down. Then there's always the samples that we've built up over five years that we can throw in at anytime." It's good to see all those years weren't entirely wasted.
Hoodwink + Junior Blanks + DJ Scissorkicks: Breakfluid at the Powerhaus (0181-963 0940) 19 Feb