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Cashless society by 2012, says Visa chief

By Tim Webb

Paying for goods with notes and coins could be consigned to history within five years, according to the chief executive of Visa Europe.

Peter Ayliffe said that, by 2012, using credit and debit cards should be cheaper and more convenient than cash.

Some retailers could soon start surcharging customers if they choose to buy products with cash, because of the greater cost of processing these payments, he warned.

Visa Europe briefed the British Retail Consortium last month on new "contactless" cards that can be waved in front of a scanner to make small payments.

However, the consortium dismissed this vision and claimed that card processing fees, which regulators are investigating, are still too high.

One member of the consurtium said that the estimated "interchange" fee charged to retailers amounts to some 4p for each transaction.

Nick Mourant, treasurer at Tesco, said: "There is a duopoly between Mastercard and Visa in the UK. Their setting of fees is anti-competitive."

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nwo
[info]taylese wrote:
Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC)
we are a sleep they are awake
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[info]taylese wrote:
Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC)
we are a sleep they are awake
A question of tax.
[info]proximaking wrote:
Thursday, 25 June 2009 at 06:38 am (UTC)
If we went to a truly cashless society, not expensive VISA or any other credit cards but faceless cash cards that had to be topped up from your bank account we would instantly get rid of tax avoidance at the bottom end of the economy and the push from the public would be huge to ensure tax avoidance at the top end was also caught at source.

But until someone with all the unearned wealth of the queen, every penny of it is unearned income, can be forced to pay more tax than the derisory amount she deigns to pay why should you or I pay our taxes? Who else do you know is asked politely by the taxman each year how much tax they would like to pay? I'd like to pay the same few million quid in tax as the queen next year but first I'd like all her unearned income and a cushy job to go with it and someone to wipe my backside for me, ......... at least I or any of you would have earned such a job a damn sight more than she or any of her family ever have.
Re: A question of tax.
[info]jaded63 wrote:
Friday, 26 June 2009 at 04:27 pm (UTC)

I wouldn't have the Queen's job for all the tea in China. Who wants to have the details of every day of their lives published in advance in the Official Gazette? Who would want her enormous work-load, the enormous pressure of responsibility of being Head of State for a quarter of the world's population? She doesn't just represent Britain, you know.

As for us Brits, she earns us twenty times more in revenue per head than the measly 60p she costs us. In addition, the unseen value to the nation is and has been incalculably great. A fool like proximaking, totally free to make his cheap jibes, would not have had that freedom were it not for the love of King and country displayed by the British in WWII. The Royal family stood by the nation in its darkest hour then, and without them as a rallying point, an incredibly important focus for morale, I expect proximaking wouldn't exist, because the Nazis would have won, and their plans to send most of the adult population into slavery would have come into force.

The commercial value to the country in terms of contracts that have followed on from the Queens innumerable State visits during her 56 year reign is enormous.The constitutional value of the monarchy is very great and proven over hundreds of years, not least since WWII. The Queen stands above politics; the armed forces swear allegiance to her; the Royal family does enormous good in so many spheres, not least that of charity.

I have the utmost respect for the Queen as a person: Show me anyone who has been so upright, so true to her public vows, such a great representative for her country - and such a force for good.

No, proximaking, damn you and all your cheap lowlife ilk. God save the Queen!
Re: A question of tax.
[info]llienomot wrote:
Friday, 26 June 2009 at 10:55 pm (UTC)
Are you old enough to be on-line on your own.
Re: A question of tax.
[info]jaded63 wrote:
Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 06:00 am (UTC)
It is not surprising that republican readers of the Indie are unable to muster any rational argument for the abolition of constitutional monarchy in Britain, and indeed cannot muster anything other than the occasional childish jibe.
Re: A question of tax.
[info]llienomot wrote:
Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 03:15 pm (UTC)
jaded63

You refer to my comment as a childish jibe and perhaps it is, no more so however than your ?damn you and all your cheap lowlife ilk.?

In your original comment your opening questions ?Who would want her enormous work-load..? etc, Suggest a lack of imagination.

You then state that ?As for us Brits, she earns us twenty times more in revenue per head than the measly 60p she costs us? . The problem here is that we?re not all Brits. If you Brits want to pay for royalty, wire in, but why should we Scots, Welsh, Irish and indeed English non Brits pay for something we neither need nor want? How would you like to be forced to pay towards the running costs of, say, the Communist Party?

With regard to your comments about the Nazis winning if not for the British love of Queen and country, are you serious? How do you explain the heroic struggle of the Russian peoples who withstood far more than the British without royalty to rally around? Are you aware of the support within royal circles for Nazi ideology?

You speak of the commercial value of the Queen. Do you have facts and figures to back up your claims?

You ask ?Show me anyone who has been so upright, so true to her public vows, such a great representative for her country - and such a force for good.? What about Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands who, by all accounts is more popular with her subjects than Queen Elizabeth is here in the United Kingdom?

While you are free to sprout your jingoistic nonsense, you really shouldn?t expect to be taken seriously unless you can back up your claims.
Re: A question of tax.
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 09:57 pm (UTC)
The Royals, what do they really offer the people of the UK? A crown on a penny and a royal wave at a function, tourism is through the floor so right now I imagine they are costing us plenty but the argument invites the illusion that all these tourists spend their time outside Buckingham Palace eager for a glimpse of Her Maj chucking money through the gates when in reality, they spend a very small part of their time at Royal inspired tourist venues and the rest of their time exploring London as any tourist would.

They don't offer us leadership, inspiration or act in any way that I would consider worth the money we pay for them... a force for good? I don't think so, all are automatically entered into the higher levels of the Freemasons, they drink and debauch at our expense and have a whale of a time, the money used on them could be used oh so more wisely and for the people's benefit too, investment in housing, jobs, education and hospitals I think would be more useful than allowing this pack of succubi feed from the neck of the British people.

I say scrap the civil list and let the Royals pay their own way...
Re: A question of tax.
[info]llienomot wrote:
Sunday, 28 June 2009 at 10:08 am (UTC)
Well said ancientoneuk.

The attraction of tourists is often used as a rational for retaining royalty yet the world's number one tourist destination is, and has been for a long time, the Republic of France.
Re: A question of tax.
[info]errol888flynn wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:13 am (UTC)
Proximaking ... don't wish to insult you, but if your first paragraph is a reliable guide, then you know nothing about the acute dangers to your freedom now accumulating on your (and most other people's) horizon.

You make some understandable but weakly validated comments about the "unearned wealth of the Queen" ... evidently in the belief that if we could only reduce the Royal Family's burden upon the Exchequer all would be well. Are you really that naive and ignorant? If things were changed in accordance with your wishes, you might then enjoy some symbolic satisfaction, but they would not make one iota of difference to your or my material condition.

Whilst I am well aware of the high numbers of immature, ignorant fools living in Britain today, the prospect of a cashless society should nevertheless fill any sane person with fear and dread, and cause them to swear total opposition; even fighting it to the point of death.

Here are links to some articles that might hopefully educate you enough to wake you up from your slumbers. A criminal cabal backed by the International Bankers are seeking to gain control of everybody (or as many as they can dupe in the time available) and one of their biggest weapons is the control of credit and of money through Usury. Cash is something they cannot control, which is precisely why they want to eradicate its use. It matters not what this idiot Peter Ayliffe says. All he is trying to do is win a penis measuring contest, and gain total dominance of the market for his beloved corporate master: VISA.

Perhaps you should spend some time investigating exactly who owns VISA? You might not like what you find.

Here are the links to important articles on what a Cashless Society really means:

The Corporatists (Fascist State beckons) ... http://www.rense.com/general83/corpr.htm

True Conspiracies - A Cashless Society ... http://www.trueconspiracies.com/cashless.htm

Cashless Society (Dangers) ... http://www.headsup911.com/community/index.php?topic=550.0;wap2

Blog Article by By Nury Vittachi ... http://mrjam.typepad.com/diary/2009/01/danger-cashless-society-approaching.html

Wake up my Brother and stop thinking like a juvenile. It's time to take responsibility for yourself and for others, and to turn off that mind control machine in your living room (the TV).
And he caused ALL - to receive a BAR CODE on their right hand
[info]yahownzall wrote:
Friday, 26 June 2009 at 03:50 pm (UTC)
Praise Yah! We are getting closer and closer to the return of Yahshua Messiah! HalleluYAH!! Bring it on NWO - we will serve our GOD and not your system!!

And he caused ALL - to receive a BAR CODE on their right hand

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
cash less
[info]ramadurais wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 01:11 am (UTC)
The availability of US$ currencies in international markets is funding terror . A drug smuggler from Afghanistan and Pakistan is able to sell their produce in many countries and cash them as US$. This currency is used to buy illegal arms and pay the mercenaries from Somalia . Common people who use hawala send money home also make these terrors are legal money changers.

In all countries the legal tender is the currency of the nation. Most carry credit / debit cards. All tourists can be facilitated to draw the currency of their destination country at the air port of arrival. That way the need to carry money can be blocked. It is not possible to carry gold and gold is breakable in small denomination.

If euro and US$ is banned outside their nations then the funding of terror at grass root level will get blocked. US$ / euro currency offers more portability, tradability and the convenience of matching the payment requirement dynamically. This is not possible with gold. With gold petty thieves will steal increasing the risk for terror to transport. The metal also get detected easily.

So to stop terror funding and international crime ban only the US$ currency outside US and Euro outside euro zone.

Ramadurai.
Re: cash less
[info]errol888flynn wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 05:55 am (UTC)
Ramadurai ... you are too engrossed in symptoms, many of them irrelevant, instead of focusing on the primary causes.

A criminal cabal headed by International Bankers (with the House of Rothschilds at its centre) have been moulding the international banking and forex system for their own evil purposes, for well over 40 years (ever since the USA ended all pretence to a Gold Standard connected to its Dollar under President Nixon).

Gold ownership and trade does not increase the risk of terror. Don't be silly. The Hawala system has been in existence for centuries, and is a very excellent system. It is being attacked and threatened only because it operates outside of the "official" system run by the criminal franchise based in London / New York / Geneva.

Every country that has tried to stay outside the Rothschild spider's web of banking dominance: Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, and Iran, has already been attacked militarily, or is currently being threatened with military aggression. America's and Britain's armed forces are no longer fighting for their respective countries, they are fighting for the banking criminals who are attempting to impose a New World Order where the vast bulk of humanity (those left after up to 30% have been killed by genetically engineered flu viruses and/or the subsequent inoculations) will live only to serve this elite --- which numbers less than 5,000 persons worldwide at most.

Today, nobody should carry credit or debit cards. They are instruments of control, and are part and parcel of the Usury system that has provided immense power to the criminal cabal of which I speak.

As regards your suggestion the US Dollar should be banned outside of the USA. That process has already begun by default. Most people with any sense have dumped their US Dollars already, and are refusing to accept payment in US Dollars as of now. The US Dollar is finished. It is an illegal currency anyway; study the US Constitution and the US Federal Reserve Act, and its illegality becomes apparent.

We should not be seeking to attack the future security of ordinary Americans (or of ordinary Britons). Our collective enemies ... the enemies of all mankind ... live and operate in New York City, the City of London, and in Geneva (mainly). These are the people and transnational organizations who should be attacked: our common enemy. You can begin by doing nothing they say. You must reorganize your life to get out of their system completely, and quickly. The real terrorists are the ones who currently control the western media, who author the law in western countries, and who operate an evil financial system that funds drugs, prostitution, human-trafficking, and bogus coloured revolutions around the world (Georgia/Red, Ukraine/Orange, and Iran/Green).

NOTE: Opium production in Afghanistan has increased almost two-fold since American troops arrived in that country.
Cashless World Rising in America
[info]randyfrushour wrote:
Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 07:57 pm (UTC)
Upon suggestion from a radio show caller in 2002 I delved into Book Daniel and discovered chapter eight where describes the closing (full shut down) of America and simultaneous rising of a cashless monetary system other than money, but beside our homes using computer chips and satellite transmission while few begin to sign up to. This likely to incorporate our four notable credit card companies as mentioned in verse 22 which they, being a no-brainer for me having previously considered all of this for 47 years and today arriving to the visionary hour, as having the four credit card co's figured into the mix studying and researching this matter out in year 2003.

There is one other note as of this printing. An incomplete prophecy stated in the chapter 8 yet is unfullfilled which I have loudly stated to friends that “if it not come to pass next would negate and nullify entirely the interpretation I spell out.” But clue one and only about this yet incomplete specific line matter, and because I honestly wish no further participation with these issues hereon other than having my own free American choices to pursue life, live in peace and pursue happiness, and to consummate one of my business dealings I started on-line under Intellectual property classifications , is with regard to the current and real confrontation the USA and the UN is having with Iran who anyway, is (Persia) part of the “two empire” Babylon of chapter eight to first collapse in war on the end-days timeline as did Media (assuming “other Median empire” – America’s other two wars are well in hand), but following not with mention finally of the Jihadd rise mainly in midde east but globally too and all of politicising Armageddon throughout our world “for many days” into the future found in Daniel 8 26. I expect these concerns both about America and overview of some much wider political war against terrorism to commence in full swing by the 2020 presidential election if not sooner. You can read entire blog at www.randyfrushour.com , refer the TOC to Standing Skeleton!

And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore (Daniel) shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
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