Magnetic forces to blame for 9/11 tower collapse
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Scientists can finally explain why the Twin Towers collapsed on September 11, despite the temperature of the fires being well below the 1,500C melting point of the steel girders holding up the buildings.
The discovery that unusual magnetic forces within the girders made them weak at temperatures of about 500C explains away the conspiracy theories that have spread like wildfire since the disaster.
Sergei Dudarev, of the UK Atomic Energy Agency, found that steel loses its strength above 500C because its molecules undergo a physical transition from one state to another due to magnetic fluctuations. "The steel didn't melt, it just became soft. It is an unusual state and the temperatures in the Twin Towers were high enough to cause it because the thermal insulation was knocked off the girders through the impact with the aircraft," he said.
"Understanding how materials behave means we can find the right 'medicine' to make steel stronger at high temperatures... and if our work can be used for other applications, such as safeguarding tall buildings against disasters, so much the better," he said.
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Molten steel was found below the rubble of the Twin Towers and WTC 7 sites, where it continued to burn for WEEKS after the collapse of these structures. If it is generally accepted that the steel couldn't have melted due to the fires, then how did the steel become and remain molten undergound?
Active thermate residue has been found in the dust from these collapses. Not just thermate residue, but a very specific formula, boosted with barium, that is licensed only for use by the US military. Google "Steven Jones" or "architects for 9-11 truth" if you want to review the evidence for yourself.
Magnetic forces my eye!
Please do some REAL JOURNALISM before writing about this very serious FALSE FLAG subject.
It's belittling the art of journalism.
Anthony Rago/Staten Island
Additionally, what about the 47-beam vertical core columns at the center of each of the towers? They too collapsed all the way to the ground, and became part of the molten pools that burned below Ground Zero for weeks after the attacks. If this new "theory" is sound, there should still have been a few hundred feet of these core columns still standing post-collapse.
When their sixth sense was later confirmed in the form of two airliners crashing into the towers, how could they react but in euphoria that their sixth sense had proven right?
Now we have the evidence that magnetic forces can weaken steel at pretty low temperatures and in fact can make neighboring buildings suffer from the same effect and consequently collapse in sympathy with the ones first affected as it happened with building 7.
The really interesting thing about this magnetic effect is that although steel caves in at low temperatures it in effect has a memory of its real, scientifically proven melting temperature. Realizing that fact it subsequently overcompensates and produces molten steel that remains molten for weeks afterwards.
The jubilant Israelis can thank the New York Police Department for arresting them and for bringing them to a safe location far enough from the Twin Towers to escape this awful magnetic effect. Otherwise this magnetic effect would have caused them to self combust and subsequently made them molten Israelis, which would have been another first in the history of science.
The other thing as well, these towers were built with "belts and braces" engineering and with a plane impact in mind, they were built with partial redundancy in its structural overview meaning that portions could collapse or break out and the building would stand, the fire would have to have melted across the floor for this explanation to even have the remotest of merits, the thermal images alone showed that the fires were actually quite isolated.
Skyscrapers are subject to incredible stresses and designed as such, towards the top because the whole thing acts like a sail, a strong wind would seem like it being battered with a pressure many times that of the actual wind but these two buildings were designed also to withstand objectal impact such as a plane, there still is NO credible reason why they collapsed other than they were "pulled" and that is highly indicative in the way they collapsed too, controlled demolition.
--David Chandler
--David Chandler
This is really going nowhere.
There are so many people out there who will simply refuse to believe anything the government or authorities come out with on this matter.
The whole 9/11 / War On Terror / Iraq / Afghanistan scenario has all sorts of holes in it (CIA training Al Qaeda, our previous relationship with Saddam, PNAC etc) and has irreperably damaged the public's confidence in the political elite and their relationship with the military industrial complex and global business.
...And then you report this shoddy little number, without any proper in-depth scientific explanation.
Not so much as a diagram showing the effects of heat on the atomic/molecular structure of the metal.
"because its molecules undergo a physical transition from one state to another due to magnetic fluctuations"
I mean come on. I know you're not exactly New Scientist (which itself is dumbing down nicely), but that's just an utterly pointless sentence. From which state to which other state? What kind of Magnetic fluctuations are we talking about? Can we have a link to something a bit more substantial? Apparently not. How was it tested? How was the discovery made?
I'm genuinely interested and would like to know. Are you worried that your poor, dumb readers may be scared off by too much detail?
"The discovery that unusual magnetic forces within the girders made them weak at temperatures of about 500C explains away the conspiracy theories that have spread like wildfire since the disaster."
No it doesn't. Are you saying that this discovery now makes it impossible that it could have been explosives inside the buildings? Even if the findings are correct, then this just offers an additional explanation for the collapse, not the sole possibility!
This kind of crappy reporting feeds more conspiracy theories than it debunks. Please, try harder next time. Science and logic are so important.
Building 7 was not hit by a plane, yet it fell in the same fashion as buildings 1 and 2.
Mr. Connor reports that magnetic forces caused the collapse and he's got credibility. I say that thermite brought down the buildings and I'm a whacko conspiracy theorist. wtf
:)
The peer reviewed paper entitled 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe' can be downloaded in PDF format at:
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/conte
and here's Niels Harrit explaining it on Danish TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvtPSl__
So why did the similarly constructed tower in Madrid not collapse? Or the ones in the far east?
Why did they state time and again, despite video capturing the tell tale "puff" of cutting charges, that no charges were ever used and then covered up the very fact that nano-thermites were found in the dust.
Go back to William Rodriguez, listen to what he said of the even two weeks prior, when an unexplained security drill forced the two towers to be evacuated including the security staff and enough time to get those charges ready, now go look at the huge amount of Bush family members crawling all over this like the maggots they are, not just brothers, cousins and their spouses, now go and see who makes Nano-Thermite and Thermate and owns the patents.
And strange if I remember right that some 4 billion dollars worth of gold disappeared that day too and that story was buried deep... not so long after another big discovery was being buried, the missing Pentagon trillions.
By their responses you shall know... they knew that we weren't buying this sack of horsecrap and with the clamour of thousands of experts and even people in Congress and Hollywood now shouting for the truth, they are desperate for you all to go back to sleep knowing it was "magnetic forces"...
Remember the very strange oddity that pilots were trained at a school partly owned by Jeb Bus, security there just happened to be another Bush, the insurance process and claim administered by another Bush, can't people see this ticked all the boxes for them, a smacking great heist and the means to wage war.
Let's not forget that both the towers were subjected to an unprecedented 36-hour power-down during the weekend immediately preceding the 9-11 attacks, shutting down security and surveillance systems, allowing total access to a group of "workmen" purportedly installing "high-bandwidth internet cable" in the towers.
I had the pleasure of speaking with William Rodriguez at Ground Zero during the 5th anniversary of the attacks. I believe his story of sub-basement explosions PRECEDING the airliner impact upon the North Tower with every fiber of my being. He is universally hailed as a hero, having rescued no fewer than 15 people himself, then accompanying firefighters as they made their way up the towers, opening firedoors and passing out bottled water during their rescue operations. Willy was the "last man out" of the North Tower, and survived by diving under a fire truck as the tower debris rained down upon him.
He is by all accounts a hero many times over. What reason on Earth would he have to tell an even bigger tale by lying about these explosions? His testimony is infinitely more credible that that of this Dudarev dude, yet it was taken behind closed doors by the 9-11 Commission and never published as part of it's findings...
I'm amazed any self-respecting journalistic entity would even consider giving Dudarev's "explanation" a second pass, when it was THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED ALMOST A YEAR AGO...
www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/0
Magnetic Forces? LOL. That's more idiotic than those Conspiracy Theories.
The cat is out of the bag.
The truth is out, and the lights are on.
Keep cashing the checks and sleep well.
Someone would win a Nobel Prize
There would have to be extensive research programmes to determine the safety implications
All technical standards would have to be revised
There would have to be safety assessments of the design not merely of buildings, but also ships, power stations, etc., etc.
All engineering degree courses would have to be revised
I could go on and on, but you get the picture.
Ask yourself, do you see any of these things happening?
Lots of reports have showed that on 911 attacks were well planned and carried out by Gosh. The Towers were vaporized due to Gosh's wills.
3000 gosh-condemned persons were taken by Gosh on 9/11/2001. There is noone who could dispute this fact.
Thus, Gosh was the one bombed and collapsed those 3 NY Towers. Any other reasons are all absurp, and impossible to PULL.
Signed Larry Silverstein (aka NY Tower Puller)
There would have to be reassessments of the design of all major buildings, etc., etc.
This is what happens when there is a genuine major disaster (as opposed to a fake)
But you don't see this safety assessment happening after 9-11, do you?
In a way, it doesn't matter that a plane crashed into each of the towers (they were designed to withstand that, anyway) - what allegedly caused the the buildings to collapse was the fires - fires that could have been started by anything, but in this case were started by the planes. WTC was just a fire - no plane impact at all.
If a fire caused a major building to collapse - never mind three major buildings - that would cause seismic ripples through the engineering and safety industry. But 9-11 didn't.
9-11 'changed everything' - except in engineering, where nothing changed.
Look at the billions spent on security after 9-11 - how come nothing was spent on fire safety assessments?
Have you asked yourself what that means? It has to mean that, institutaionally, engineering does not believe the official story.
Nano-Thermites were found in the WTC dusts. Some of them particles found were un-exploded.
The traces of Nano-Thermites points to INSIDE JOB.