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Scientists able to read people's minds

Brain scanner translates thoughts of participants in maze experiment

By Steve Connor, Science Editor

An MRI scan of a brain. By observing neural activity, scientists will be able to translate thoughts

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An MRI scan of a brain. By observing neural activity, scientists will be able to translate thoughts

Having the ability to read someone's mind with a "thought machine" has come a step closer after scientists showed that they could guess a person's memory simply by looking at the electrical activity of their brain.

Scientists have found that spatial memories can be "read" by a brain scanner so that it is possible to predict automatically where someone imagines themselves to be (the exact location in a maze, for instance) without actually asking them.

"It's also a small step toward the idea of mind reading, because just by looking at neural activity, we are able to say what someone is thinking," said Demis Hassabis of University College London.

It may one day be possible to do the same with other types of memories and thoughts, although the possibility of using a mind-reading machine to solve crimes or to fight terrorism is still a distant prospect, Dr Hassabis said.

"It's at least 10 years, probably more, from getting anywhere near that kind of technology, where you could literally read someone's thoughts in a single short session when they don't want you to," he said. "We might be about 10 years away from doing that, so it might be useful to start having those ethical discussions in the near future in preparation for that – but we're still a long way from doing anything practical," Dr Hassabis said.

The study was led by UCL's Professor Eleanor Maguire who had already shown that a small area of the brain behind a region called the hippocampus is enlarged in male taxi drivers who had done "The Knowledge" – memorising the maze of London streets. Professor Maguire trained a different set of male volunteers to navigate themselves through a virtual maze on a computer while their brains were being scanned by a functional MRI machine. "We know that the hippocampus underpins our ability to navigate, to form and recollect memories and how to imagine the future. But how the activity across millions of hippocampal neurons supports the functions is a fundamental question in neuroscience," Professor Maguire said.

The scientists found that certain nerve cells in the brain's hippocampus, called "place cells", became stimulated in definite patterns of activity that the researchers could analyse to guess where in the maze each man imagined himself to be.

"Remarkably, using this technique we found that we could accurately predict the position of an individual within this virtual environment solely from the pattern of activity within their hippocampus," she said.

In contrast, previous research on animals suggested that there were no particular patterns of activity within the nerve cells of the hippocampus that could be used to predict spatial memory. "Our technique, which looks at the picture over many thousands of neurons, shows this cannot be the whole story," Professor Maguire said. "If we're able to predict spatial memories from brain activity, this means there must be a structure to how it is coded in the neurons."

The study, published in the journal Current Biology and funded by the Wellcome Trust, the world's biggest medical research charity, could help scientists to understand the fundamental memory problems behind some neurological diseases. "Understanding how we as humans record our memories is critical to helping us learn how information is processed in the hippocampus and how our memories are eroded by diseases such as Alzheimer's," Dr Hassabis said.

The future: Ethical questions

Being able to read someone's mind has been the stuff of science fiction, but how far are we away from the reality of visualising the secret thoughts of people without them knowing?

The latest research is strictly limited to a certain set of nerve cells in the brain – specifically the hippocampus region – that are known to be involved in memorising spatial awareness and navigation.

Professor Eleanor Maguire of University College London, who led the study, said that the finding opens up the possibility of understanding how other kinds of memories are encoded in the brain, although we are still a long way from seeing inside someone's head. "We can rest easy in terms of mind-reading. While technically in this study we were able to predict someone's spatial memory from their brain activity, there was nothing intrusive about what we did," Professor Maguire said.

"It's not that we can put somebody in a brain scanner and suddenly read their thoughts. It's quite an involved process that's at a very early stage."

But in science you can never say never, and the technique could be adapted for other kinds of memory infiltration. "It's probably quite far away from having social, ethical and probably forensic implications," Professor Maguire said.

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nice
[info]bahij wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 12:52 am (UTC)
its great to be know what the brain thinking
A Dream Come True?
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 04:37 am (UTC)
Think what this does for the police state a machine that can read your mind. A dream come true for politicos and a nightmare for the rest of us, innocent or otherwise!
Re: A Dream Come True?
[info]testing_times wrote:
Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 12:02 pm (UTC)
There is a snag for the politicos, it doesn't work (certainly not smoothly) unless you cooperate mentally. Thus, they may haf vays of making us talk (usually any old gibberish to get them to undo the thumbscrews) ven ve are not villing, but they do not haf vays of making us think. Hence, do what comes naturally to most of us on any given day, focus on the ridiculous, the absurd & the downright distasteful!

Having said that, it's rather a fascinating prospect to be able to connect a couple of electrodes to one's forehead & download onto a monitor one's entire life history for the purposes of recollection/reminiscence.
Just great - new database coming up
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 10:39 am (UTC)
All we need now is mandatory chip in the skull and a national thought database...
Re: Just great - new database coming up
[info]testing_times wrote:
Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 11:47 am (UTC)
Coming right up...
next stop Picadilly?
[info]jona123 wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 10:56 am (UTC)
It might be a means of accessing ones inner map of an area, but as the investigators say its not a map of thoughts. So someone might be able to read an inner map of where I was but what I was thinking in Picadilly does not read like a map. Partly because I wasnt there, I just recalled for the machine a memory of being there and some additional non map like thoughts. Was that lying to the machine, or for the machine? Im sure there is somebody out there gnawing away at their nails thinking furiously how it could be employed forensically.
Reading A Man United fans Mind
[info]bluerudedude wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 06:21 pm (UTC)
It has been impossible in the past to rean a Man U fans mind because a they do is breath through their mouth and emit a lot of drool. Now that Scientist have jump this hurdle they have discovered that they constantly think of breathing through their mouths and drooling!
Re: Reading A Man United fans Mind
[info]bluerudedude wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 06:35 pm (UTC)
My Red Army friend has pointed out my grammer mistakes. The fact is I was laughing too hard to type correctly. I'd like to point out that I have found at least one Man U fan that can spell ( some what). Go Chelsea!
bluerudedude's mind
[info]parkerthered wrote:
Friday, 13 March 2009 at 06:32 pm (UTC)
i hope they never read the bluerudedudes mind, we would find thoughts of converting over to the reds, sleeping with all the reds, beind red, loving red - but never will we take a blue traitor shandy drinker -
keep hoping bluegaydude
headline
[info]tristramsha wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 09:26 am (UTC)
Is it "mind reading" or "brain interpreting"?
thought Machine
[info]rmcmanus wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 02:38 pm (UTC)
This reveals thoughts not truth. What a person believes, to be, in their thoughts, - IS.

However it does bring up visions of 'inserting thoughts/memories' like the 'Arnold' movie that takes place on Mars. "Take a trip and never leave the farm".

Confessions to crimes never comitted. Additional memories or changing of real memory or

Possible use in Pyscho-therapy of seeing what the patient sees. Can those be changed?

Great Potentials & Possibilities for GOOD and for EVIL.
Congratulations Dr.Maguire
[info]dana_kake wrote:
Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 11:30 am (UTC)
I would like to congratulate Professor
Maguire for his success and finding this graet discoivery of Mind Reading. I look forward to hear from him again in a short period of time not 10 years. Well done Dr. maguire

Regards
Dana
Mind reading
[info]mlpsmike wrote:
Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 01:09 pm (UTC)
This is silly. Mind reading has always been around. Doesn't the author have a mother? They ahve read minds forever!
Morally and Ethically Wrong!
[info]imalotbetter wrote:
Sunday, 15 March 2009 at 08:11 pm (UTC)
If this machine works the way they say it will in ten years that means that the government could take anyone and read their mind by force. Though there are Pro's to this as well; terrorism, spies and other malevolent aliens would be stopped in their tracks. Although, I believe that we have free will to Think! If our Thoughts aren't private...what is? This machine could make a 180 degree spin and completely be used for the wrong reasons.
Taking civil liberties
[info]guyontheroad wrote:
Tuesday, 17 March 2009 at 12:07 am (UTC)
We can't blame brain scientists for doing their job, although it's deplorable the way they have to allude to fighting terrorism EVERY BLOODY TIME as a nudge to the authorities for further funding. It's our Big political Brothers we need to worry about. The old sus laws / Prevention of Terrorism statutes are ripe for a new technological version and we should expect government to make the punishment fit the thoughtcrime.

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