A man died after falling from a rock face at a well known climbing area, police said.
The man, who has not been named, was with his son when he plummeted to his death from about 20 metres near Llanddulas, north Wales.
Officers from North Wales Police attended the scene along with the North Wales Fire and Rescue Service and a mountain rescue team after the incident was reported at 12.22pm yesterday.
A police source said: "There's a small disused quarry face there which is not commonly used by climbers, called Terfyn.
"The man was there with his son - just the two of them."
Earlier reports suggested a helicopter attended to support a rescue attempt, but he said: "A North Wales Police helicopter was used to take photographs of the area, but was not used support-wise."
The source said police do not know at this stage what kind of equipment the pair were using and that police are just treating the fall as an accident at this stage. No arrests have been made.Reuse content