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Cameron calls BNP gains 'desperately depressing'

David Cameron has called the BNP's European election gains 'desperately depressing'.

The Tory leader said: "It is desperately depressing. It is obviously a depressing day, for all of us. The BNP are completely beyond the pale.

"They do not even let black and Asian people into their party, they are an appalling bunch of people. It is depressing.

"What the mainstream parties have to do is prove their worth, get on the doorstep, explain to people how we are going to take up their concerns, how we are going to respond to their issues.

"That is the way to beat these dreadful people. I hope that this is the extent of what they can do and they go no further."

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Depressing?
[info]tomewing wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:15 am (UTC)
I'll tell you what's depressing.

The mainstream parties who voted for 2 illegal and immoral wars that have killed a million people plus on the basis of lies and what's more they knew this.

That is war crimes never mind their collective responsibility for destroying the economy through globalisation and being in the pockets of the Bankers.

Never mind the destruction of the Health service and the Marxist social engineering in our schools and throughout society.

etc etc etc
the reral issues were irrelevant
[info]mikeknoth wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:17 am (UTC)
The Tories in spite of the Labour debacle they could only get an extra 1% of the vote
even though Tories voters gave the thumbs up to the mansions, duck houses and moats
the votes where not gained or lost on european issuesas the local elections were not won or lost on local issues
No Asians or Africans but...
[info]ron_broxted wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:25 am (UTC)
On the bright side they do allow Jews to join but what sort of Jew would be happy in a neo-nazi party boggles my mind.
Re: No Asians or Africans but...
[info]board_member wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:19 pm (UTC)
A Zionist Jew, of course. The BNP is a strong and enthusiastic supporter of Israel for its extreme right-wing shift of recent years. The BNP and most Zionists are aligned in regarding Arabs as inferior or even sub-human.

Of course, not all Jews are Zionists. Far from it. But you can be sure that the BNP will sub-vet its Jewish supporters to ensure that their personal politics match the BNP's and Israel's.
Re: No Asians or Africans but...
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:01 pm (UTC)
I thought the BNP supported the Palestinians, but I have no idea where I heard this. Can someone clarify? I'm at work and don't really want to be seen on the BNP website.
Re: No Asians or Africans but...
[info]balbkubrox wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 01:02 pm (UTC)
It's not entirely clear whether they do or whether they don't. As you say, the BNP claims to have abandoned anti-semitism - though looking at some of its associated websites you'd be forgiven for not realising that. And where the Middle-East conflict is concerned it seems to have decided that it hates the Palestinians even more than the Israelis. But whether it does actually have - or want to have - any Jewish members is uncertain.

What it seems to have done is give British Jews a sort of exemption from the "indigenous Caucasians" clause in its constitution a bit like the honorary-white status which was given to the Japanese (but not the Chinese) in apartheid-era South Africa: i.e. a concession not a right - and revocable at a moment's notice.
Re: No Asians or Africans but...
[info]w1551ns wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:03 pm (UTC)
The reason the BNP lose a lot of votes is because they want to be an 'All White Party'.
Maybe if they were more inclusive, more people would vote for them in light of the uselessness of the three main parties.
Re: No Asians or Africans but...
[info]balbkubrox wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 03:37 pm (UTC)
Indeed so: it's a mistake which the UK political left made for many years, assuming that people of a certain skin coloration will all have the same interests and all think and vote the same way. In fact once immigrants have become established for a generation or so - and British black people are now often third-generation - they tend to become more and more like the rest of the population as regards their political opinions and voting patterns. So it is really stupidity of a very high order for the BNP to operate a colour bar which not only sets every man's hand against them but also cuts them off from tens of thousands of black- and brown-skinned Britons who would otherwise agree with much of what they said: e.g. "my dad says that if they keep on letting all these Poles in he's going back to Trinidad."

But I don't think the BNP leadership would ever get it past their activists if they proposed dropping the whites-only clause. The French Front National has plenty of coloured members. But the French far Right have never been quite as hung up on racial purity as ours: a result perhaps of us never having experienced a Nazi occupation and seen what the process of racial cleansing looks like up-close.
Appalling People
[info]ratcatcher911 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:27 am (UTC)
I think the Tories are pretty appalling people too.
Re: Appalling People
[info]samtho wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:40 am (UTC)
Get a grip
Not good enough
[info]alithebarman wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 11:46 am (UTC)
Not even close Cameron!

Between him and Brown & Clegg they have allowed fascist holocaust deniers to represent Yorkshire and the North West at an international level through infighting, inaction, incompetence, titillation and complacency.
BNP
[info]takizakura123 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:09 pm (UTC)
Like a stuck record. Cameron's liberal supremacism has gotten tiring. Has the guy ever had any multi culti experience?
No
[info]northwest0161 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC)
Though I despise the BNP I am optimistic. This could be the boot up the backside that convinces the main parties that they need to end spin and prevarication (in TV interviews for example). The arrogant and patronising attitude towards the electorate must go. We want a return to proper politics and discussion of issues.

No, Labour Party, it isn't about expenses, the system of proportional representation, or lack of women in the cabinet. It is about your corrupt, arrogant party which has killed hundreds of thousands of people, been America's poodle, taken away our civil liberties and bankrupted the country.

Do someting now or not only will we have the (almost inevitable) Tory government, but it will have a massive majority.
BNP
[info]pigfarthaaaa wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC)
I don't understand people saying black and asians can't join BNP, of course not you can't have a white person joining a black association can u. BNP is British National Party for white Britons and to stand up for white britons i think Nick Griffin will help put us were we should be, i dont want to be second class citizen, i dont want to live in a country were i am not wanted, its my country and i am proud to be white.
Re: BNP
[info]balbkubrox wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:55 pm (UTC)
Well then, if you're so proud of being British you should learn how to write your own language properly. Get yourself a good book on grammar and punctuation, and perhaps take some lessons.

NB. Apart from the BNP, there is no other political party in the UK which defines its membership by skin colour.
Re: BNP
[info]dippy_rainbow wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:25 pm (UTC)
Do I get a diversity quota for being white and male? Does the publicly Operation Black Vote fight for my interests?

Now get this. MASS IMMIGRATION, THE EU AND MULTICULTURALISM HAVE BEEN FOISTED ON THIS COUNTRY. LIBERAL/MARXIST TYPE LOSERS ASIDE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BRITISH POPULATION BITTERLY RESENT THEM.

So get your knickers in a twist over the BNP - live with it.
My congratulations to Nick Griffin, Andrew Brons and all the brave BNP activists and candidates for their courage, resolve and fortitude in bringing this victory about.

Leftist thugs - eat your hearts out!
Small Earthquake
[info]balbkubrox wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 12:49 pm (UTC)
Let's get some perspective on this: the BNP's performance, though better than many of us had hoped, was still pretty lacklustre: their share of the national vote in the European poll only marginally up on 2004 and ditto for the local elections. And this was in conditions which were just about as good as they're ever going to have short of an epidemic which kills off everyone with a three-figure IQ or Al Qaida blowing up Buckingham Palace on the eve of polling. The electoral breakthrough never happened - the main parties just did even worse than the BNP - and if it didn't happen this time then it never will.

Likewise the BNP is plainly not a party built for the long haul. From what I've seen of its activists over the years "real" politics - committees and paper-shuffling and answering constituents' letters and all the boring stuff - doesn't excite them nearly as much as rambling on about the gas chambers (non-existence of) and attending neo-Nazi rallies in continental Europe. They plainly loathe one another only slightly less than they hate the rest of us, so if held up in any way they soon fall to bickering and excommunicating one another. In fact, although I'd hoped that UKIP (yes, UKIP, God help me!) would do well enough to keep them out of the European Parliament, since they did get in I'm glad that two of them got in and not one, because you can't have a really satisfying party split with only one member.

A shameful day for Britain nonetheless, and I've no doubt the voters of NW England and Yorkshire will live to regret having stayed at home on the 4th. I wonder what the record of attendance of their two new representatives will turn out to be. And how they'll handle their expenses. There'll certainly be many eyes watching them.
Dear Dave....
[info]herbairemedy wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 01:58 pm (UTC)
Hey David Cameron, do you want to know what's truly depressing?

A government that doesn't listen to it's people on immigration. That just scoffs and sneers at anyone who disagrees with it. That says anyone who disagrees with mass immigration must be some sort of "Nazi", "fascist", "racist" blah blah blah.

Well, if the corrupt old parties don't want to listen to the people, then we'll just have to vote for new parties that WILL listen. That's how democracy works. If David Cameron finds democracy depressing, then I suggest he finds a different job.

Just remember this fact: If the establishment parties hadn't let millions upon millions of immigrants into Britain in the first place, there wouldn't be any need for the BNP.
Cameron's comments...
[info]asurbanipal wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:20 pm (UTC)
Nevertheless, we still live in some sort of a democracy, however decrepit and in spite of all that NuLabour has done to dismantle it. People are entitled to vote as they wish and it ill-becomes any politician - even though he be the leader of the Conservative Party - to criticize their choice. People in glass houses...
Blame LABOURS IMMIGRATION POLICY
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
The British people have been demanding curbs on immigration for YEARS and have been treated by contempt by both the labour party and their left-leaning followers. Good British citizens have been accused of racism when they have raised quite legitimate concerns about the unfettered levels of immigration into our country. This tactic has been VERY effective in stifling debate about immigration in the UK. But not any more. People can see with their own eyes the consequences of the sheer numbers of immigrants being allowed into our country on a daily basis. Many of these immigrants are:

i) UNHEALTHY because they have no health service to speak of in their home countries and therefore present a massive burden on public health services. Immigrants are IMMEDIATELY allowed the same level of medical treatment as UK citizens - without having paid a penny in taxes. In New Zealand Canada and Australia prospective immigrants have to take a very stringent medical which includes a HIV test. Any member of the family that does not pass this medical is refused residence. The philosophy here is they would pose too high a burden on medical services. And also why would you have an unhealthy immigrant when you could have a healthy one! The UK does not ask for ANY (yes, ANY!) medical exam - it does not even require an HIV test. It is also interesting to note that immigration activists have successfully demanded that all HIV-positive immigrants be given the same standard of medical treatment as UK citizens.

ii) UNSKILLED and require support by social services. Again, New Zealand Canada and Australia only allow immigrants who are skilled and who fit within certain skills categories. Most immigrants have to have a degree.

iii) VERY POOR and require social housing - in the past immigrants who had been in the country months were places at the top of the housing queue, ahead of UK citizens who had been waiting for YEARS. This fact is often (brazenly) denies by trendy-lefties.

iv) HABOURING RELIGIOUS BELIEFS WHICH ARE STRAIGHT OUR OF THE MIDDLE AGES - including immigration due to so-called 'arranged marriages'.

Labour's irresponsible (some would say treacherous) immigration policy has changed the very character of the UK - you only have to walk down any street to see evidence of that. Labour has become so politically correct that it does not even deport FAILED asylum-seekers. How contemptible of the British people is THAT!

Labour has brazenly refused to set any targets for immigration - even when the economic situation demands it. Look at the the response of Australia to the current financial crisis. It has cut its immigration intake by a significant amount because it places the rights of its people - its citizens above any PROSPECTIVE immigrant - that is just a fair and common-sense approach. Remember, Australia does not accept ANY unskilled migrants so one can appreciate the massive extra burden imposed by continuing unfettered immigration in the UK by people I have listed above.

For too long trendy lefties, in their houses in Hampstead and Islington, have stiffled all debate about immigration by labeling people as "racists" who dare to question it. This might have worked very effectively 10 or 20 years ago but people have become aware of this disgraceful strategy and it will no longer work. Trendy lefties are partly responsible for the failure of entire immigrant communities (more noticeably the Muslim community) to integrate into our society. Trendy lefties, for example, led Hate campaigns against any person who dared to criticize the wasteful practices of councils in printing information leaflets in all known languages under the sun. Now we are paying the price for this. Just look at the treatment of British soldiers returning from battle in Afghanistan by SOME Muslims - they were abused and screamed at when they paraded down the street in what should have been a celebration of their contribution.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. The reason why the BNP have gained such inroads is because of these things. We MUST have a sensible immigration policy where only those who can contribute can have residency.
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 02:37 pm (UTC)
David Cameron states: ""What the mainstream parties have to do is prove their worth, get on the doorstep, explain to people how we are going to take up their concerns, how we are going to respond to their issues."

Well they can start to LISTEN and ACT on peoples legitimate concerns about Labours unfettered immigration policy which has changed the very nature of British Society. They can start by overhauling immigration policy so that it serves the British people. To date, the British people have been serving many immigrants, many of whom cannot even speak English by paying for their medical treatment and unemployment benefit. Australia, for example, has an English language test - prospective immigrants should at LEAST have to prove that they can speak English. How else can they contribute to the economy of an English-speaking country. We should vet all immigrants to screen out those that have religious beliefs which are incompatible with a modern European society. We should start to deport ALL failed asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants - exactly like Canada, Australia and New Zealand does. These things are just basic common sense and are fair. This would be a good start. But the entire immigration policy and process needs an complete overhaul. Labours betrayal of the British people in this matter cannot be allowed to stand.
EU referendum
[info]berewic wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 03:30 pm (UTC)
The rise of the BNP is manly due to the Labour parties treachery over the EU referendum and it's refusal to deal with mass illegal immigration.
The Tories will follow suit when they inevitably betray the UK electorate, when they also deny us a referendum on the same issue. Cameron has promised us, if he's elected to government, a referendum 'only' if the Irish vote no for a second time. If they vote yes, then we are stuck with it and only an exit from the EU will save our right to govern ourselves.
Many hundreds of thousands voted BNP in last Thursdays elections and the BNP were not that far behind the main three parties in several areas. Considering the mass media propaganda that exists against the BNP, I think they did rather well. As time goes on and we continue to be crowded by illegal immigrants, the rise in unemployment this will create and the continued erosion of our sovereignty, it is inevitable that more and more voters will turn towards the BNP and UKIP for salvation.

Unless the three main parties start to adopt BNP & UKIP policies, their days are numbered.
'desperately depressing' - compared to what?
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 04:20 pm (UTC)
There's plenty that post here who are very quick to label the BNP this, that and the other. But are they correct? And are their opinions unbiased? Is there a side to BNP doctrine that has been ignored by the left, the media and the Establishment for too long? Is the right always wrong?

Is anyone ready to discuss race openly and objectively? If so, how about getting up to speed tonight by watching a professional documentary on this taboo subject? The film I have in mind, was made in 2008 by a (Craig Bodeker). A commercial filmmaker, with no political axe to grind.

His film: "A Conversation About Race" is (59:00 Min's long) and is hosted on Google.

Here is the Link: http://tinyurl.com/kmc7jc

The authors web address is here: http://www.aconversationaboutrace.com/

>>end of post.
BNP to Rid Britain of Scourge of Family Run Newsagents
[info]cultsha wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 05:46 pm (UTC)
BNP to Rid Britain of Scourge of Family Run Newsagents

http://cultsha.com/bnp-to-rid-britain-of-scourge-of-family-run-newsagents/
BNP
[info]phyllisstein wrote:
Monday, 8 June 2009 at 06:43 pm (UTC)
Whatever the other parties think about the BNP, it has been DEMOCRATICALLY elected.So has Ukip. so you have to wonder why these parties have got a following. Is there perhaps something the other parties are missing, questions they are not asking or ignoring you bet. I.e Europe, European enlargement, immigration (no not because of their colour, nationality or their religion) there's just too many for the small island of Britain.T 27 unelected people making laws for 500 million people not right not without a vote. So that's why people are voting for them. No I did not vote BNP though I would not stop, throw eggs at or turn my back while they gave an address (as some pitiful candidates did, I went out and VOTED for another party with my democratic vote.Yes Mr Cameron you would have got my vote but you are dithering over the Lisbon treaty and a referendum so Ukip got my vote. I suggest some of these posturing, politically correct MP's go and have a few words with the people who voted BNP and find out why they voted the way they did instead of saying 'how depressing it is'.

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