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Griffin tries to build extremist bloc in Europe

Party will share £22m windfall if it can forge alliance in Strasbourg

By Jerome Taylor

TheBNPLeader Nick Griffin celebrates after European parliamentary election results were announced at Manchester Town Hall

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The BNP Leader Nick Griffin celebrates after European parliamentary election results were announced at Manchester Town Hall

The British National Party is attempting to patch together an alliance of extremist nationalist organisations across Europe in order to unlock hundreds of thousands of pounds of extra funding.

The party secured its biggest mainstream electoral victory in the early hours of yesterday when Nick Griffin, the chairman of the far-right party, became its second member to be elected to the European Parliament.

Hours earlier, Andrew Brons, a former chairman of the National Front who has a long history in far-right politics, became the party's first MEP after winning almost 10 per cent of the vote in Yorkshire and the Humber.

Mr Griffin achieved his long-term ambition of being elected to Brussels after scraping through to take the last of eight seats for the North East. Both men will be entitled to about £310,000 in annual funding, including an £80,443 salary, a staff budget of up to £182,000 and £40,000 for office expenses. But the British National Party (BNP) could also unlock a share of the £22.8m allowance that is given to parliamentary groups if it can find at least 25 fellow MEPs from seven member states willing to form a bloc within the European Parliament.

Being part of a group is crucial in terms of power as it entitles members to EU funding, a party office, administrative staff and, crucially, the right to vote in committees which are the nerve centre of the Parliament.

A parliamentary group is also entitled to up to £5m of extra funding over the next five-year term.

A number of far-right groups have secured seats in the European Parliament, many of whom hold outwardly racist or neo-fascist policies. Prior to the European elections, high-ranking members of the BNP had attended rallies held by neo-Nazis in both Italy and Hungary.

Simon Darby, the deputy chairman of the BNP, said Mr Griffin would begin looking for groups with which the party could form alliances.

"In the long term it would be to our advantage [to form a bloc]," he said. "Whether we will find people with enough in common I don't know, we'll have to wait for the dust to settle."

Mr Darby, who failed to win an MEP seat in the West Midlands, which had been considered one of the BNP's strongest areas, declined to specify which groups the party was talking to but he said they would look to form an alliance with France's far–right National Front. He added: "We believe in talking to people even if they have different views to our own."

In the run up to the European elections, senior BNP leaders including Mr Griffin and Mr Darby went on a series of trips to Europe to meet with fellow far-right activists.

In April, Mr Darby was welcomed with fascist salutes by members of the Italian nationalist Forza Nuova party during a trip to Milan. Headed by Roberto Fiore, a leading far-right Italian politician and a long-time friend of Mr Griffin, Forza Nuova campaigns for the expulsion of an estimated 150,000 Roma gypsies from Italy.

The BNP already has a relationship with Jobbik, a Hungarian party with its own civilian militia which won three of Hungary's 22 seats. Critics say its policies are overtly anti-Roma and anti–Semitic. Last October Mr Griffin spoke at a rally of more than 5,000 Jobbik supporters in Budapest. He has also met Jobbik activists in London.

A spokesperson for Searchlight, the anti-racism group, told The Independent that their activists would now go to Brussels to monitor the groups with which the BNP forms alliances.

"In the past the BNP have made efforts to keep their dealings with extremist parties across Europe very much under wraps," a spokesperson said. "Now those relationships will be under intense public scrutiny and we will be able to highlight the sort of company that the BNP keep."

Labour MEP for London Claude Moraesa said: "Fascists in the European Parliament where I sit have long wanted members from Britain to join this transnational group so for those reasons there is deep concern that we have now crossed that threshold."

A power base?

*57 councillors, three county councillors, one GLA member, two MEPs, 17,000 members, 65,000 callers to head office during election campaign, 30 full-time administrative staff, two million emails sent during campaign.

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BNP
[info]takizakura123 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:16 am (UTC)
I like the BNP and hope a group of like minded folk can be formed at the EU. The dosh will come in handy. Europe needs an alternative media, outside of the liberal paradigm.
Re: BNP
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 11:32 am (UTC)
You mean to say that the Mail, Times, Telegraph, Express, Financial Times, Star and the Sun/NotW, with a combined readership of between 15 and 20 million, are all liberal? I guess you could say that, if you had absolutely no understanding of what the term 'liberal' actually meant, and if you had absolutely no understanding of European politics this side of the French Revolution.
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[info]caringhum wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:23 am (UTC)
The story of a small party battling against the odds, taking on the establishment and winning is like a script from a Hollywood movie. There's something so romantic about the BNP winning it's first seats in the EU, it's a true David v Goliath story. The story of the humble natives, scrabbling together what little money they have to form a political movement and challenge the interests of giant multi-national corporations and the globalist elite. They didn't have the backing of wealthy Russian oligarchs, or rich Saudi oil billionaires. All they had was their grit and determination, and a vision of a better future for Britain. It was a tough stormy ride, they faced a vicious onslaught from the rich and powerful media barons; countless smears and intimidation, but they held steady and refused to be bullied by the big powerful corporations. They knew their vision was worth fighting for. They took on the establishment, they stuck to their beliefs and they won.

Now they will be able to provide a voice for the formerly forgotten and unwanted. Representation for the underprivileged, ignored white working class. It has been a triumph for democracy, a triumph for the voiceless. It is a truly heartwarming tale of indigenous empowerment, it will make for a great movie in years to come. We will look back on this election in the future and feel truly humbled to have been witness to it.
Please tell me you're joking?
[info]tomstreamer wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 10:01 am (UTC)
I cant believe I just read that...I mean, its the friggin BNP people! You know, the bloody National Front? Their racists, bigots and frankly, despite what some may claim, they're Nazis. Did you even read the article? Have you even read anything...ever? Other than their recent smiley faced pamphlets festooned with happy families...who I noticed were all distinctly white...not an ethnic minority in sight! How weird is that? You'd think with all their claims of being a new, evolved party they'd try and at least avoid such an obviously glaring error such as that. Frankly I dont think they care - people have walked right into their hands - and yes the government is to blame - but no the BNP is not the alternative and they do not hold any future other than a hideously corrupt, frankly bland, civil right lite one! I've said it before I'll say it again - they're not a genuine political party - they're a bloody joke - you dont vote for them - you point and laugh at them
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I dont care how much they paid you, stop it with the BNP headlines.
[info]sameth99200 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:29 am (UTC)
Seriously, this is getting beyond a joke now. The worst thing about it all the pre-poll 'news' articles was the obscene number of newspapers that seemed determined to give the BNP the most coverage as possible. Stop it, no one cares about the BNP- but i bet their issues and agenda was banded about the media more than any of the main parties. They are a tiny party led by people with tiny brains and probably penis's. The reason that extremist nutters have made even the least inroads into politics is through the 24 hour fear articles in newspapers that not only give the BNP free advertisement, but interviews and opinions. My point; its not the rise of unemployment or the expenses that have let these embarrassing individuals into power (though undeniable factors), but the constant news coverage they have received.

Why did you do this? Well, i imagine your labour spin buddies paid you one way or another to keep us scared of the BNP so they would get our vote instead. I bet they thought the best way to get their voters out was to make them believe we'd turn into the new Reich if they didn't vote labour. Well now that plan blatantly failed as the Tories dominated in the south with the SNP running rampant in the north.

So its over, they lost, this constant coverage of the BNP to distract the voters didn't work and you can now please, PLEASE shut up about the BN f*ckin' P.
Re: I dont care how much they paid you, stop it with the BNP headlines.
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 03:00 am (UTC)
I agree wholly with this comment.

Take an inquisitive person, just laid off or losing his home, is curious even about what all this is about, the media, the government all screaming racists, fascists etc etc.... so the curious george like many wants to hear the opposite side and hears from the BNP truthfully that the media are liars, the government provably time and again are liars and thieves and its just not true and we don't hate anyone really...

Trouble is... the BNP would be right in pointing out the many lies of this government and thus the curious george is faced with a dilemma, trust the liars and the thieves or trust a party that is resonating with much of his hardship?

So many people are going to be sucked in here, not by anything the BNP offers but because New Labour, the Tories, Lib Dems have all lied, have all supported illegal wars, have had their hands in the taxpayers pocket robbing them blind, are supporting in one form or another legislation leading to oppression, surveillance and criminalisation of the masses and all the BNP has to do is wait for the support to come in as the big three hang themselves.
Gordon's parting gift
[info]nled63 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:54 am (UTC)

Thanks to Gordon Brown, The BNP has made more mileage in this election than would have previously been thought possible. In real terms, this knee-jerk rightwards is no more than that, & the chances of the BNP emerging as a major party on the political scene are no greater now than they were before. A similar pattern was observed back in the '70's, when the National Front gained a certain, spurious credence in the face of monumental Labour incompetence, but which quickly evaporated with the ascension of Margaret Thatcher. The BNP's gains in this election say more about the damning indictment disaffected Labour voters have delivered Gordon Brown than about any fascist renaissance in Europe, & any reasonably in-touch prime minister would have taken close note of the party's & public's mood & arranged a discreet departure before such an embarrassing drubbing took place. Not so Gordon Brown. All honourable options contemptuously ignored, Brown blunders on to the bitter end. Whilst it might be true that we will never actually see an elected BNP government in Britain, it might also be true that the Labour Party might be in no position to form another government for at least another ten years.
Re: Gordon's parting gift
[info]colinru wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 10:44 pm (UTC)
You may be right that the BNP will never be an elected Govt but German History shows that a small, dedicated Party with drive and ambition can achieve Power without winning a majority in times of dislocation. Bear in mind that Labour are in Power with approx 25% of the Electorate supporting them. We live in dangerous times and I think that The Polity are sleepwalking us into disaster.
Islam and Fascism
[info]living_fossil wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 02:44 am (UTC)
I do wonder if some of the common & wiedspread fear of Islamic cultural invasion throughout Europe is responsible here. No body likes the BNP but very few outside of Islam appear to like Islam either. Could be that some folk are hoping these two apparently opposing creeds will self-destruct on impact and leave the 'moderates' in peace? Maybe there are no moderates in this case then?
Re: Islam and Fascism
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 05:35 am (UTC)
First of all congratulations to the British Taliban Party ( BNP) on their historic victory.

Now Mullah Nick Griffin can unite with his fellow extremists namely the Taliban and work towards a "New World" Order.

We all know the "Old World" Order is rotten to the core; so welcome to Mullah Nick and his friends, maybe they can start a parallel UN and EU to comply with the joint manifesto of the BNP, other extremist/fascist parties and the Taliban.
boll.x - said "exteremist bloc" is already built by a certain slippery toff version of Blair
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 05:46 am (UTC)
Two BNP MEPs are two warning shots from Real Labour Britain, across the bows of all quisling blatcherist snouts and fellow travellers , not only those still being shaken out of government.
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/06/bnptv-interviews-nick-griffin-mep/
Re: boll.x - said "exteremist bloc" is already built by a certain slippery toff version of Blair
[info]ourmaninferney wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 06:27 am (UTC)
How many times do you plan on posting the same entry to different (and in this case, the same) threads? Talk about a stuck gramophone....
"In the long term it would be to our advantage [to form a bloc]," he said. "Whether we will find peo
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
What is all these about. The game of Lottery with one number only?
Afterwards, MPs lined up to tell Sky News they were sticking with Gordon Brown. HE IS BACK HE IS BACK HE IS BACK HE IS BACK
Worksop MP John Mann, who described himself as "non-aligned" said: "It was quite a subdued atmosphere, there was no sign of this big rebellion to get rid of him.
"The mood's not there to get chopping and changing."
Well come Brown We need you Hooray
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Be careful what you wish for - it might come true.
[info]democraticact wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 07:37 am (UTC)
Margaret Thatcher's call was to the reactionary. The legitimate voice of opposition was all but silenced. New Labour sold out to big business and turned its back on the very people it was meant to speak for. It made good Thatcher's political apartheid. What seemed to be the powerful structure of the old Labour Party was demolished. The treachery of New Labour hasn't just left ordinary working people without a voice; it confirms their mistrust of the establishment in general. And the BNP has the appeal of being anti-establishment. The argument for greater national insularity is quite proper and decent and is expressed with passion in every culture. But it degenerates into bigotry ( so be careful what you wish for !). It is not a predominant imperative of ours. Like our language our strength comes from our diversity and it has been its denial for the last 30 years that has brought us to this pass. We can begin the job to put democracy back on its feet by voting for The Democratic Act ( TDA ) Go to: democraticbritain.org.uk - and make a start.
thanks to the right wing media the bnp have won a couple of seats in europe
[info]maradona_2009 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 08:01 am (UTC)
its hardly a suprise that the bnp won a couple of seats in europe with all the propaganda and spin from the right wing media in this country about the so called threat of muslims and immigrants and asylum seekers that has been the agenda for some time now and the racists who wanted a excuse to vote bnp did exactly that and they tell us it was a protest vote do me a favour
BNP
[info]juliandbsmith wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 08:22 am (UTC)
Oh so that's what it's all about, money. Nick Griffin and his boys can now join his euromates and plot to make more cash. I doubt they'll do anything constructive except make a load of headline noise to get more votes and make more cash. People are deluded if they think this lot will influence policy in Europe. Too many people have bad memories of the far right there, too many had parents who were displaced, abused or died for the extreme right to take hold there. Immigrants and other minorities caused nothing like the trouble the far right and nationalism have caused over the centuries.
Griffin tries to build extremist bloc in Europe
[info]leminier wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:17 am (UTC)
It is a truly tragic day for the UK and Europe that these emotionally damaged people have found a couple of seats in the EU parliament. It is striking how the English, and I use that term specifically, so easily lose their sense of history. We have all the hullaboo about the D day "celebrations" and then voters elect these fascists! Ironic or what? We can blame who we want. In the end it is each individual voter who casts their ballot for the far right who are responsible. The causes will be legion but having someone to blame for their own lack of intelligence, prolonged unemployment through idleness, and prejudice will be amongst them.
Re: Griffin tries to build extremist bloc in Europe
[info]mark1928 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:31 am (UTC)
I'm curious. Why do you call the BNP fascist? How do you define fascist and which specific BNP policies do you identify as fascist?

Most Islamic groups in the UK believe in Sharia law, polygamy, abolition of democracy, and some go as far to say that unbelievers should be executed.

Yet British people who live next to these communities who feel threatened to the extent that they vote for a party to counter that threat are called fascists.

If the Nazis had flooded immigrants into the UK and a party complained about it, would you call that party fascist?

Seems back to front to me.
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And look at those against them. Mr Hannibal Lecter?
[info]mark1928 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:25 am (UTC)
It's funny how they are painted as extremists. But look at some of the postings on this journal. Look at the people screaming and kicking in cars on the news last night. Those weren't the BNP supporters. They were those who are against them.

The media is BNP mad about the rise of fascism, extremism, etc. etc. But they just don't get it.

Probably very few of their supports are racist. They are people who have been marginalised by a massive influx of immigration into their communities. By those who share a different language, culture, religion, clothing, belief system. Everything.

In the past this was known as invasion.

Now it's called multiculturism.

But were we every asked or consulted? And what steps have been taken to integrate the newcomers?
Re: And look at those against them. Mr Hannibal Lecter?
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:38 pm (UTC)
Indeed. The media use the word 'fascism' to deflect what they are themselves - deniers of free-speech.

Video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNEIprfXXqU
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New Dawn
[info]healthy_skeptic wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
This is a great day for Nationalists everywhere! We can only hope for more success in the future and someday even have a free and unbiased mainstream media!
Re: New Dawn
[info]tomstreamer wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 10:14 am (UTC)
Sure you can but not in this country, not while I'm here and not while the OVERWHELMING majority of people remember who the BNP are behind their cheap suits and cheaper smiles and what they stand for - if standing wasnt too brave a verb for such cretinous cowards
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Indigenous people
[info]thenomen wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 10:10 am (UTC)
The BNP steals the language from genuine causes and spews them out in a perverted form. The reality of the situation is that the British state, blightyworld is a construct of suppression and genocide of the ancestral indigenous people of the British Isles...and I don't just mean the Welsh, Scots, Cornish and Irish. The 'real' English (not those bunch of upper british caste weirdos like Cameron etc), are also just as much victims of this plastic british world perversion. From some years campaigning in deep Cymru (Wales), I would say that the indigenous people, for example, have right to housing, and provision should be made for planning law changes so that genuinely (no blairite blags and spinning) low impact eco homes can be built by local people in rural and city areas. Thus I would suggest a 50% provision say for 'local occupancy' of such type developments. By indigenous people in England I mean the English not the 'British' - again a construct that should not exist.

I also find it weird that the local Welsh people where that weirdo Griffin actual has a farm in mid Wales, that they actually allow the piece of dogshit to live there - considering the amount of effort the farming community in particular put into harrasment of 'new age travellers'. I would havce thought for any true Sons of Glyndwr to have this pro British state nazi perv residing in their tribal territory to be a continuing insult to tribal honour. I guess thats some sort of reflection on both the process of colonialisation, and the state of sanity of whats left there of 'Y Cymru' - which means, by the way, The People. (sic).
Re: Indigenous people
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC)
So, somebody who represents the 'White' voter for a change has to be automatically labeled as '(a piece of dog shit?) Another Marxist worshiper flushed out. That's 7 this week.

BTW where are you in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNEIprfXXqU
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Mr. Wilders is trying to save the great Western Enlightenment values that have saved humanity!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 11:26 am (UTC)
Don't blame the Far-Right 0r the Right! Some like from the Right, Mr. Wilders are I suspect, genuinely trying to save the great Western Enlightenment values that have saved humanity globally, especially women, girls and gays, from increasing medievally fascist and homogenous Arabic-centric Islamist ideological conquest. That include forcing girls as young as from three years old to SUBMIT to Arabic-centric veiling ideology; so that their consent can be manufactured as adults rather than from rational i/.e complete free will! It's the arrogant hard left that is actually the root of the problem; they are stuck in bygone dogmatic ideology that is full of machismo and have no respect for historical dynamics. Due to them supporting blindly Islamists, despite that such Islamist ideology will never fundamentally recognize full liberation and equality for women. girls, gays, non-Islamic communities, converts/apostates from Islam and so on; have caused such Enlightenment values to be degraded bit by bit! There have been countless times, where my right as a feminist, even when I was a left and Atheist myself, seeking equality and liberation for women and girls, especially for medievally iron-chained Muslim women/girls (this abuse is even happening in the west - imagine that!), have been laughed at and ridiculed to the extreme hypocrisy by these macho hard left, including western ones (really, how many women are there at the top of the decision-making posts?)!
BNP
[info]colinru wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 02:15 pm (UTC)
This article seems to be that The BNP are doing what all other Parties do in the Euro Parliament - but, somehow, it is a sinister conspiracy when The BNP do it.
BNP: A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SHAME
[info]norman_bill wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 02:46 pm (UTC)
Those of you who voted BNP have brought shame and disrepute to Britains standing in the world. The European skinheads/nazis must be gloating over a nation that countered their rise in Europe. The BNP will continue to taint the reputation of the UK as a nation that has fought nazism and fascism. Pursuing a racist agenda will never solve the challenges facing this country. It is shameful that while the USA has elected a talented black President, British voters are sending 2 racist skinheads to represent them in Europe, in full glare of the world.
We are in for the next 5 years of national and international shame in Europe and the World, courtesy of British voters who voted BNP.

Re: BNP: A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SHAME
[info]mark1928 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 03:04 pm (UTC)
why is it whenever you stand up for the rights of the indigenous population you get called a racist? Who's racist now?
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[info]twellian057 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 03:29 pm (UTC)
So this is how it goes. The Great British public register a protest by voting in two BNP MEPs. They, understandably, seek to increase their income and power base by forming a bloc with like-minded groups in Europe. Suddenly there is a more powerful pan european fascist movement. Does this ring any alarm bells?
Well done, you thieving scumbag politicians with your grubby fingers in the public purse. Hopefully you will be first against the wall.
D day Victory For British Nazi party
[info]alf001 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 05:08 pm (UTC)
Sixty Five Years and one day after the allies launched a Historic victory which was see the end of Nazi rule in Europe, Great Britain duly elected its first 2 members of the British Nazi Party as democratically elected as Hitler had been. The surviving members of Third Third Reich , can finally walk the streets with their chests thrust out in pride, by finally succeeding where their beloved " Fuhrer "had failed , planting seeds of Nazism , in Britain . Even though the BNP's percentage share of the vote had gone down since the last elections , Nick Griffin has every reason to celebrate as David Cameron has for the Conservative party being the top party in Wales, winning only 21% of the popular vote , while the BNP only winning 6.5% of the popular vote in the UK .
Taking the pre mentioned matters into account , the collapse of the Labour party's votes in it's heartlands , after not heeding warning 6 years previously when Barnsley had been electing British Nazi party Councillors , despite their thuggish attitude after being elected , can only be attributed to neglect at local and National level by the Labour Government and Labour local authorities . After Thatcherism crushed the heartland of British industry and did nothing to create new jobs and Enterprise , the Labour Government, and Local authorities failed to take on board the problems in the North West and North East and took support for granted due to the Failure of Thatcherism in these areas . Lack of Local Government and National Government initiatives are giving the people the impression that Nazism is the only true answer to the problem . SUPPORTING NAZISM WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM , IT WILL BROADEN IT !
.... INTERNATIONAL SHAME
[info]democraticact wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 06:05 pm (UTC)
What then of the voters who supported the "Desert Storm" war ? UNICEF estimated that more than 500,000 children died as a direct result of our use of depleted uranium and the 13 years of sanctions that followed. ( You can still read Andy Kershaw's report to this paper in 2001, about some of the children who suffered. ) And what of the voters who returned the same MPs knowing that they had supported the illegal invasion of Iraq that has killed and maimed and tortured thousands of innocent people.
Re: .... INTERNATIONAL SHAME
[info]alf001 wrote:
Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:49 pm (UTC)
There is a difference between not voting for people who have supported Gung Ho policies of the Bush junior administration , which is now gone, and has been replaced by the Obama administration , and voting for Nazism which murdered millions more and would have kept on doing so had Hitler not been stopped . The British Nazi party is the remnant of the British Nationalist Socialist movement which was formed after the success of the German Nazi party
Scurrelous nazi paranoids
[info]thenomen wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 06:40 pm (UTC)
The BNP say that the british state is ruled by pro immigrant liberals, by an anti white clique of 'liberals'. They kinda know that this is untrue, but there is also a factor of paranoid delusion. To say that the police for example is ruled by an anti white leadership is wrong. The reverse is actually and extremly the case. In many ways the police, the british state even (especially post 9/11) is 'offical BNP'. They tend not to get caught out obviously. They play thye game and play to win blar blar blar. They lie, they cheat, they are corrupt, they fit up, they pervert, and then they play the game and the people get suckered or allow themselves to be conned by these state sponsered vermin. The BNP is full of shit and people have to be very slow indeed to belive their rubbish. You're a very brave man Griffin to be propagating your blightyworld nazi posion from Cymru tribal territory by the way. Or a fool. A racist, half witted and deeply boring imbecile. To say that its racist to not have a white police officers association is pathetic provocation by some very evil ritual abusers. The state is the white police officers association as these scurrelous BNP racists know FULL WELL.
good luck to the bnp
[info]richardbristol wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 09:37 pm (UTC)
The BNP bring a breath of fresh air to politics.
Finally we have a party that gives a voice to a very large number of people - more than the 900,000 who voted for them! - who up until now did not have a political party to voice their views.
The BNP speaks common sense and you don't hear that from many other politicans; who all use the same politically 'newspeak', that prevents us from debating the issues that matter.
Unite Against Fascism, Searchlight etc are anti democratic and to punish their undemocratic and violent behaviour the public should support the BNP's right to free speech and debate.
I really resent the fact that these unelected groups feel they can tell me who and who not to vote for.
If they are so popular they should stand against the BNP in the elections - and then we can all see who has the most support!
Extremists will thrive in coming depression
[info]red_planet92 wrote:
Tuesday, 9 June 2009 at 10:16 pm (UTC)
In the long-run I fear the extremists will do well in this country and across Europe as the economy is likely to slump into a long-term depression.

The EU currently has one-third of the world's wealth but predicts that percentage to decline to 10% by 2050. Unless you think the world is going to get 3.5 times richer by then that's bad news for Europe. Considering there'll be no cheap oil and gas about in 2050 it's hard to imagine the world won't, infact, be a lot poorer by then.

Perhaps the UK will out perform Europe and save us all? Unlikely given that the over-crowded UK has few natural resources, weak manufacturing, a sick banking and finance sector, a poor energy, food, transport and educational infrastructure and serious 'social capital' problems.

So Europe will be a good environment for young fascists, a bad environment for the rest of us. If you have kids it might be best to escape ASAP. Canada perhaps?
A lesson from history
[info]lewis_northants wrote:
Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 05:48 am (UTC)
People who say the election of the BNP to the European Parliament of no significance,should note that their share of the votewas 6.2% . In the Wiemar Germany of 1928 the Nazi vote for the Reich-stag was 2.6% . Yet in January 1933 they took power and the rest is history. The rise of the BNP can only be stopped by the main political parties having the intestinal fortitude to face up to the fears and concerns of the lower middle and working classes, which has lead to this protest vote. Failure to take effective action could result in the unthinkable, the election of BNP MPs in 2010.



Re: A lesson from history
[info]l3enz0 wrote:
Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
Re: A lesson from history - [info]colin_brown - Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 02:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: A lesson from history - [info]l3enz0 - Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 02:52 pm (UTC) Expand
Where is all this 'extremism' then. What have the..
[info]colin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 02:16 pm (UTC)
..BNP done, or proposed to do, that merits them being labelled alongside sucide bombers and alike?

A difference in opinion (fundamental or otherwise) does not mean you are talking to a racist, a bigot, a fascist, extremist or protectionist. Some liberals are bounding these terms around diluting their true meanings.

For example. I would argue that 99.99% of the worlds population are NOT racist. How can I defend that statement? Through research and extended disciplined reasoning - naturally.

Below is a film that'll educate those who have wondered whether or not they are indeed racists. If you're one of those who is already convinced that racism is an pandemic, you wont watch this film. Instead, you'll ridicule this posting for all its worth rather than contributing an important debate.

Educate your perception. http://www.truveo.com/A-Conversation-About-Race/id/4071766344
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