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Tories embarrassed by their new friends from the East

Hague defends link-up with Eurosceptic groups holding 'out-of-date' views

By Andrew Grice and Vanessa Mock in Brussels

Vaclav Klaus: The Tories' new ally has described climate change as a 'myth'

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Vaclav Klaus: The Tories' new ally has described climate change as a 'myth'

The Conservative Party distanced itself yesterday from the hardline views of its new partners in the European Parliament, some of whom oppose women's and gay rights.

The 25 Tory MEPs have linked up with a collection of 30 Eurosceptic members from seven other countries to form the European Conservatives and Reformists after breaking away from the mainstream centre right EPP group, the largest in the European Parliament. David Cameron's decision has dismayed the French President Nicolas Sarkozy and the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose parties are members of the EPP.

William Hague, the shadow Foreign Secretary, admitted that some of the Tories' new bedfellows had "different social attitudes" but insisted that the new parliamentary group would not subscribe to them. He said some of the views attributed to the Conservatives' new partners were "out of date" and that they were mainstream, not marginal, parties.

The two main allies are the Polish Law and Justice Party, which has banned gay rights' marches, and the Czech Civic Democrats (ODS), the party of the Czech President Vaclav Klaus, who has described climate change as a "myth" and the former prime minister Mirek Topolanek, who was photographed naked at a party hosted by the Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Another member is a Dutch ultra-religious party, the Christian Union, which opposes abortion. But the Tories are not linking up – for now, at least – with the SPG section of the Christian Union, which opposes women standing as election candidates and taking senior positions.

Mr Hague insisted that the ODS was the "leading party of the Czech Republic". Law and Justice was "the party of the president of Poland", he said. Other allies in Finland, the Netherlands and Latvia were part of ruling coalitions, he added.

"We don't believe in the so-called federal Europe and it has got to be good for European democracy and diversity to have a grouping in the European Parliament with which we agree and can put an alternative point of view," said Mr Hague.

Timothy Kirkhope, leader of the Tory MEPs, said the party had not associated itself with parties from the far-right and extremists. "Our basic criteria for joining was that members would be willing to accept our overall position on Europe, which is a Europe that is non-federal and based on values shared by citizens rather than values shared by the eurocrats," he said.

Although the group's policy statement describes family values as the "bedrock of society", Mr Kirkhope said: "That does not mean that we don't accept other people's social rights."

The new group is likely to be the fourth largest in the Parliament following this month's Euro elections. The breakaway delighted Tory Eurosceptics and fulfils a pledge by Mr Cameron in his Tory leadership campaign four years ago. Tory Europhiles, whose figurehead is the shadow Business Secretary Kenneth Clarke, were hoping the party would not find the necessary six allies.

Former Tory MEPs condemned the move. Caroline Jackson called it "stupid" and said it would create "bad blood" with the party's centre-right allies, while Christopher Beazley said Mr Cameron would "rip up 30 years of work by Tory pro-Europeans".

David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said the Tories had dragged themselves "from Euroscepticism to Euro extremism".

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Cameron is making the right move.
[info]dave1234567890 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 12:13 am (UTC)
Cameron is right to set up this new grouping which is against a federal Europe. What on earth is the point in the Tories belonging to a group, the EPP, which believes in more integration. I would suggest the position that Cameron is taking is very much more in line with what the majority of the UK electorate support, following the recent elections.
I find it amusing that Milliband is criticising the Tories over their position on Europe, when his own party is so far removed from what the British people want, that they now only have a small rump of MPs in Europe and were too afraid of the British people's views to allow them to have a vote on the EU Treaty. It is in fact his party that is not listening and is now totally out of touch with the electorate ,as he will find out whenever Brown dares call an election..
Once the nasty party, always the nasty party
[info]robertclondon wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 08:52 am (UTC)
You're right, for once Cameron is making an honest move and a good one - for the other parties. It shows the kind of party the Conservatives really are: a bunch of rightwingers, xenophobes, climate change deniers and gay-haters. It will certainly help clarify many people's choices come the next general election.

The Conservatives: once the nasty party, always the nasty party.
Cameron has made abn error of judgement
[info]richardjeff wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 05:31 am (UTC)
In the modern world of major power blocks and economic groupings the EU in some form is a necessity for the protection of the UK's interests. The global economic crisis has shown that we , for example, need coordinated regulation financial services markets.

The Conservatives can debate the degrees of federalism and integration needed and can act perfectly effectively from their former grouping which, from what I can see, was not committed to federalism but neither opposed it. By this new group they send out unfortunate messages on what else they are prepared to live with.

I foir one feel it shows weakness on the Tory party and possible an agenda to abandon the EU and isolate and marginalise the UK. What is needed is reform in democratising, reducing bureaucratic waste and that means the EU needs a new constitution or treaty. Then federalism or otherwise becomes subject to the democratic process.

Without the EU Britain would have little effect power or sovereignty over its own affairs as it would be simple left reacting to events rather than influencing them.
DISSENT IS DEMOCRATIC
[info]easilyme wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 05:38 am (UTC)
They are united in Euroscepticism, that's all. Whether you agree or not, who wants no dissenting voices to challenge an institution's need to grow and expand? Disagreement is healthy, and it's democractic.

By the way, 'someone got naked at a party'?! Wow, their politics must be terrible. Cheap journalism.
About time....
[info]cosifantutti939 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 05:41 am (UTC)
"....Christopher Beazley said Mr Cameron would "rip up 30 years of work by Tory pro-Europeans..."

Excellent news. Perhaps he can also forestall Mandelson's efforts to keep Brown in office until after the Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, head off Blair's envisaged appointment as EU President and start to bring government policy in line with the electorate's wishes.

Italian Neo Fascists have joined EPP!
[info]libbiemiller wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 07:07 am (UTC)
Strange, Dan Hannan has just pointed out in the guardian that that the Italian neo-fascists have in fact joined the EPP.

So, you're wrong!

Klaus tried to stand up for democracy and got beaten down, that's why the EPP don't like him.
STDs
[info]drahcir38 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 08:03 am (UTC)
When you sleep with someone, you also sleep with whoever they have slept with before you. So despite tory MEPs protestations that they are only joining up with these other groups because they are anti Federalist is walking on pretty thin ice given the histories of some of these groups and their members. When you join a club it is very difficult to only abide by the rules that you want and ignore the wishes of other members.
Re: STDs
[info]easilyme wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 08:32 am (UTC)
That must leave you pretty limited for choosing partners in the real-world. Is a full-background check (police and medical) required before any fluids are exchanged? What about friendships - have you still not forgiven Sam for picking Kelly instead of you as their partner in the three-legged race? Where would Germany or the old Eastern-Bloc countries be now if they held that attitude?

They haven't joined a group - they've formed a group - so there are no pre-set rules to abide by.
CC
[info]sixxstring90 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 08:16 am (UTC)
What's wrong with describing climate change as a myth when it so obviously is. Is climate change the new religion and all dissenters are branded heretics? When will we be burned at the stake?
Re: CC
[info]easilyme wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 08:22 am (UTC)
Here! Here!

Well, actually, I wouldn't say climate change was 'a myth' or 'a fact', as it's all so debatable - yes, it is - but 'religious heresy' is a good analogy.
Tories in bed with 19th century values
[info]andrejs74 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 09:05 am (UTC)
I must admit that I was initially rather encouraged by David Cameron's seemingly progressive and modern approach to the social and environmental issues of today's world. However, by setting up this new group he effectively proved me wrong. Every single party in this group is either a born again evangelist trash or a group of neofascists. The fact that some of these parties are members of governing coalitions in some Eastern European countries says more about those countries in question than anything else. They subscribe to views which weren't seen as very modern already in the 19th century, it's people who start vomiting whenever someone mentions minorities and human rights and who firmly believe that women are breeding machines who should stay in the kitchen. Mr Cameron, you have committed political suicide in Europe but frankly speaking, this is your own fault.

Andrejs Visockis, Latvia
Andrew Grice and Vanessa Mock
[info]patrickinken wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 09:14 am (UTC)
Do you exist?

I only ask because this article seems to be authored by a computer based on press cuttings.

Part of the Independent's debt reduction strategy?

Once the nasty party always the nasty party.
[info]dave1234567890 wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 03:05 pm (UTC)
A bit of a silly comment after Mc.Bride. When asked in a recent opinion poll recently who people considered to be the nasty party, Labour won hands down.
I think robertclondon is living in the past.
The world with a future
[info]lumidek wrote:
Tuesday, 23 June 2009 at 06:00 pm (UTC)
There are many things that David Cameron should be criticized for - he's way too politically correct and cares about his image in many respects. But this decision to team up was a winning one. Hard-left journalists like those in the Independent misunderstand many things about the current world. For example, they misunderstand that countries like the U.K. are unfortunately empires in decline. It is damn important what the fast-growing countries such as Poland and Czechia think. The attitudes they try to humiliate are the mainstream ones. The ODS is the most powerful party in Czechia - after all, it won the recent EU elections, followed by the socialists. I hope that the isolation from the PC would-be center-right EPP group will allow the ECRG to crystallize its common-sense and principled opinions, and it is the East-to-West direction in which ideas will have to propagate this time. I also expect that the media that are employing highly biased writers like those behind this article will go bankrupt soon because the Britons - and the Europeans - are not as stupid as these naive ideologues think.

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