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Naturists lose their fight to go naked on the beaches

The right to wander bare in the North Sea chill was hard won. But the climate has changed, reports Jonathan Brown

It was Winston Churchill who roused the nation's determination when he vowed to fight on the beaches to maintain the basic freedoms of this island race. Now Britain's army of naturists find themselves battling on the sandy and shingled margins to protect a cherished way of life.

They have issued a war cry – claiming they are suffering unlawful and discriminatory treatment – following news that Britain's longest-serving nudist beach in Corton, near Lowestoft, is to be shut because of coastal erosion. Waveney District Council confirmed yesterday that the area would be "de-designated" from November following a consultation.

The announcement that one of the last 10 remaining official naturist beaches is to disappear comes just days after nudists were urged to ignore warnings that they face prosecution should they continue to use a stretch of sand near Bridlington, East Yorkshire ,which has been a popular destination for sun clubs and naked bathers for decades.

Andrew Welch of British Naturism, which has 11,000 members and represents the interests of an estimated 1.5 million practising nudists, believes that what is essentially a healthy and harmless pastime is under attack from a culture which discriminates against them. He insists that anyone wishing to strip off in public is not doing anything wrong according to the law and that heavy-handed authorities are in the vanguard of a general crackdown on the pursuit.

"We don't want to get on our high horse about this but we are a group that is being discriminated against. If we were an ethnic or religious group this sort of thing would never happen," said the 44-year-old marketing consultant, a naturist of 20 years' standing. "A council does not have the legal authority to ban naturists. Our challenge is the culture. The law is on our side," he added.

The naturist colony in Corton was founded in the mid-1970s when the village could boast a long sandy stretch of beach. Since then, the pummelling effects of wind and wave have seen 80 per cent of the beach space given up to the North Sea.

A spokesman for Waveney District Council said the loss meant it was time for the nudists to move on. "The communities of Corton and the visitors to this area have little or no beach to access, without entering the designated naturist area," the spokesman said.

Engineer Malcolm Boura, 55, who opposes the change, believes the council is determined to do away with the beach and that naturists would continue to flout the change in status. "We expect that people will keep using it and that it will continue to be a source of friction and bad feeling for a long time," he said.

The de-designation row mirrors the tussle in Yorkshire where supporters hoped to continue to enjoy the elements amid the splendour of the Lord's own county. For years, up to 50 people have gathered at a time on Fraisthorpe Beach to enjoy the wind on their back and pretty much everywhere else amid the solitude of the sandy stretch in Bridlington Bay. But the East Riding of Yorkshire Council's determination to end the practice has sparked a simmering row and even a lie-down protest by members of the protest group Fraisthorpe United Naturists (FUN).

The beach was designated for naked use in the 1990s but this was overturned apparently after the council received complaints from locals. Since then the place has become a hangout for people having sex. Meetings with police and the council have however failed to dispel the central gripe of the naturists who for much of their recent history have been congregated on designated nudist beaches though they are not legally compelled to do so. This, explained Mr Welch, is because devotees of the al fresco pursuit, are determined their actions are not misconstrued as sexual or aggressive, so they prefer to stick to the designated sites available to them in the UK.

It is a problem not confined to beaches either. In Hertfordshire a naked bathing group faced losing the right to swim at a public pool after a refurbishment and was only reprieved after changes were made to accommodate a muslim ladies' swimming club meant health and safety concerns were satisfied. And it is not just in this country either. In Switzerland, voters in the tiny Alpine canton of Appenzell Inner Rhodes this weekend voted to impose £120 fines on "boots-only" hikers, most of them German, who have begun lapping up the area's splendid scenery.

According to Mr Welch, naturists are like any other group, they like to be together. "We are a bit like motorcyclists, rock climbers or heavy metal fans in that we like to mix with like-minded people. Yes, we are a minority but naturism is not on the fringes of society like it used to be. There is more nudity on TV and people are far more free and easy about themselves. Everyone works so hard, cooped up with air-conditioning and fluorescent lighting that they want to get out there. Being naked is good for you as a human being," he said.

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naturism in Britain
[info]geof24 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:33 am (UTC)
Anyone mad enough to remove as much as their shirt on the Yorkshire coast should be given a medal for promoting British tourism!
Naturism not Nudity
[info]mrbuns49 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC)
Sad day when you get nudity splashed all over the TV to sell everything from soft drinks to soft porn but you can't lie in the sun and enjoy the sun on your skin.

Perhaps if their was more real nudism this country would not have so many people with eating disorder and other self image problems caused by comparing their mortal bodies with the sculpted by starvation and surgery perfect bodies of the 'Celebs'

All this fuss over a few square inches of nylon.... underneath lay 2 versions (with many slight variations) of the same body why can't the Moral Minority get over it?
Liberties
[info]opinionated101 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
God, this is becoming a truly awful country to live in!
Good
[info]corporeal4now wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 08:52 am (UTC)

Have God and some shame in your lives, instead of living like animals.
Re: Good
[info]manxspirit wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 09:08 am (UTC)
The shame should be on those who incite hatred against those with opposing life stances and try to use ancient texts to support thier biggotted views. Oh and which god would you be referring to ... I seem to remember Bacchus and Athena were in favour of nudity.
Its a shame idiots like you still live on this planet...
[info]abs1978 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 10:37 pm (UTC)
let alone this country. Why do religious people assume they have moral right over those that do not subscribe to their barbaric medieval beliefs and practices? And lastly, which God are you referring to, there's quite a few...
As naked as God intended
[info]lexyboy wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
Not that the New Puritans would have you remember the nude scenes at the opening of the Bible (before we invented shame and sin).
I'd rather not look at another man's wrinkly nadgers on the beach or anywhere else, but it doesn't hurt me so I'll defend his right to an all-over tan - and admire the confidence of naturists to bare all!
Re: As naked as God intended
[info]treenonpoet wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 05:36 pm (UTC)
Although I am an atheist, I quite like the old saying (that I have not heard for a while) "If God had intended us to be naturists, then we would have been born with no clothes on".
[info]the_kegs wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 10:20 am (UTC)
Anyone mad enough to remove as much as their shirt on the Yorkshire coast should be given a medICal!
Nudism
[info]petersrock wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 10:27 am (UTC)
"a hangout for people having sex" What an interesting comment. Does it presupposed that other beaches, glades, moors, heaths, where clothed people go are not also 'a hangout for people having sex"? Perhaps I can give you a lesson on how babies are produced, and which places are thought of as 'romantic'?
FACT:
Having met nudists from around the world, I know of no nudist who would make an exhibition of making love.. or of nudity. The whole ethos is of freedom and fresh air.
FACT:
Nudism has always been practiced by people who swim. It is only in recent years, with greater affluence, and the sad influence of fashion designers that people have worn clothing to swim and sunbathe. And look at the overpriced rubbish they wear!
FACT:
Nudists, merely follow the practice of centuries. (A bit like the churches really.. and the State?)
FACT:
Nudists are peaceful, pleasant people, who want to relax in the sun often with their whole family, a difficult enough proposition in a country with our weather - which does not need to be ruined by bigots.

I was involved many years ago, in gaining many of these beaches, by making formal requests to Councils. The reason why they were asked to officially designate areas for naked sunbathing was because of the prejudice which was beginning to make life unbearable for families of nudists who wanted to sunbathe. The idea was readily picked up by Councils, who designated - officially - areas which had always been used for naked swimming and sunbathing anyway, for centuries.
FACT:
Naturists paid for the signs.
FACT:
No-one else was deliberately denied the use of that same area of public beach, but they were made aware that people might be taking all of their clothes off to swim and sunbathe. In general people found that a very acceptable solution. And it still is.
FACT:
In Scotland Cunninghame District Council designated three beaches. Gailes Shore, was officially opened by the Chairman of the Council. Later two of those beaches were undesignated for no better reason than that the ScotsNats were swept away by Labour in the next election. A petition was raised -readily gathering a very large number of signatures, but that made no difference to this determined Labour Group. Local people were overwhelmingly in favour of the nudist beaches continuing both at Gailes Shore and Ardeer, since they also used those beaches, some of them being nudists and the rest not minding naked bodies.
FACT;
There are very few nudist beaches in the UK, where people do not have to fear prosecution for sunbathing with their families.
FACT:
Those beaches - and those along rest of our very long coastline - are also open to everyone.

So what is the problem?

I believe that nudism has been used as a political plaything by politicallly motivated adults on the Councils, who should really know better.

Is a naked body really more sexually frightening than the peek-a-boo fashion of the overpriced bikini, which deliberately aims the onlookers' eyes to certain parts of the now-fashionable anatomy?

This year a buttock, next year a breast, the following year a navel. We really are a sad little country,

Can I suggest that nudists need now to insist on their rights as Local Council taxpayers - attend Council meetings where necessary - which they have every right to do - and protest long and loud, about being discriminated against by politically motivated ignoramuses, whose attitude is keeping our country in the Dark Ages?

Perhaps those who object to nudism might like to consider: that we are all naked under our clothes - and that close-minded bigots, have remarkably unhealthy thoughts.
Re: Nudism
[info]turk_diddler wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:39 am (UTC)
Oh Fraisthorpe definitely has been used by swingers/doggers. The irony is if it was still designated for naturists the beach would probably be better policed (by naturists as much as anybody else) and the people who use it for sex discouraged. As it is most naturists are scared off so all we'll get is local dogwalkers discovering something they'll only find even more offensive!

Pity really, and there's a parking charge the council won't be getting from me.
Creeping religious fanaticism
[info]sublibellous wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:15 am (UTC)
Another example of how New Labour's pandering to religious extremists is creating an atmosphere of sexual intolerance in Britain.
[info]bobav wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:45 am (UTC)
My bet is that you would find many more people having sex on "clothes" beaches than on "clothing optional" ones... at least here in the States most naturist organizations urge people who want to have sex on the beach to go to any other beach but the nudist ones... they are much less likely to be "caught" and prosecuted, and there will be less hell to pay by the nudist beaches.
sex on a beach
[info]chihatchi wrote:
Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 08:08 am (UTC)
I once witnessed a couple having sex on a clothes optional beach, in Greece. The bizarre thing about it was that they were the only people wearing swiimming costumes; everyone else was naked ! I heard them talking to each other after they left the beach. Nationality ? British, what else ?
Is it really safe?
[info]demented6th wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC)
My sister & her husband were naturists, taking their 2 daughters along with them. They would lecture my wife & I that we were 'not normal' becuase we only undressed in the home. So what was the result? One of their daughters is now an erotic dancer & makes porn movies. The other (the last I heard) couldn't bear to be seen naked by anybody. My brother in law left my sister for another man and my sister is having an affir with another married man.

My wife & I are still together & our children have no hangups about nudity but (as far as I am aware) don't appear naked in public.
Re: Is it really safe?
[info]elise1912 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 03:44 pm (UTC)
And your point is.....

I went on naturist beaches with my family as a child and don't have any problems, nor does any other naturist who was used to the environment from an early age. Just because a family who was naturist happens to be disfunctional doesn't mean every naturist family is or indeed that textile families are all completely repressed and intolerant.
They say no to nudity
[info]exec_md wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 12:33 pm (UTC)
Conditions permitting ,I enjoy private and social nudity, and am a member in a clothes optional swim club. The attidude to public/social nudity in the UK is as chalk and cheese in comparison to those in most of Europe especialy Germany.
In the UK our attitudes are supposedly still that of the sexualy repressed , single sex private school types. Their deviance is projected through the mass mediia with all the maturity toward the nude one might expect from an eleven year old schoolboy, who kept apart from the opposite sex might have. (my own eleven year old not included, as he knows better).
I know both male and female from such a background who concede as much. Having admitted the difficulty even at a later age in overcoming such poor attitudes to nudity and sex. Ask fellow member Rowan Pelling about her difficulty initialy in seperating the naked from the sexual. She has written about it already in your pages
What this represive behaviour leads to unfortunately is the state we have now where thousands of paedophiles/ deviants are embedded in the institutions at all levels, all over the UK.
It says much about the UK, that we look to Nazi-banker , "We're not part of the world" state Switzerland, for comparible behaviour.
[info]bemjammin wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 12:43 pm (UTC)
d
Elise
[info]elise1912 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 02:48 pm (UTC)
And they are supposed to be desperate to encourage people to holiday in the UK instead! No thanks. This country is an absolute nightmare. I am taking my hard earned money to Croatia this year (6th holiday there) which is Catholic, peaceful, spotless, no drunks or ASBOs and there is practically a nude beach every few yards. Perhaps the intolerant and local councils could reflect on those facts. I live in Bridlington and they have given over Fraisthorpe which used to be a lovely beach for naturist families over to the deviants so it is impossible to enjoy a day there now.
The right to wander bare
[info]sirjasper wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 03:15 pm (UTC)
There are designated areas on some beaches where naturists may go without offending others.
The only problem I can see, is that if nudity is allowed to go unchecked, then the power to protest naked will become ineffectual.
Naturism
[info]capricornfrett wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 03:24 pm (UTC)
I and my family have been naturists for some 20 years now. My teenage children cannot imagine going on a beach-based holiday encumbered by sand-trapping, white-line-creating "designer reveal-it-all" clothing. "Doing the Scarborough Shuffle", as they call the non-naturist's attempt to enter/exit beachwear without revealing whatever he/she has been attempting to display through the expensive Lycra layers, still leaves them in fits of giggles.
Fraisthorpe used to be a great venue, until touroids started to hire boats from the nearby harbour and cruise the beach, shouting at the people quietly enjoying the sunshine au naturel, "Dirty bastards". Obviously it takes one to know one ...
What's the harm?
[info]lasvegasrich wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 03:52 pm (UTC)
My experience at being on a nude beach was at Fire Island National Park on Long Island, outside New York City. Once you get over the initial shock of seeing a nude person, it's no big deal. Sexual activity either at the nude or clothed beaches should be regulated(Get a room).
No nudity?
[info]sara_sense wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 04:21 pm (UTC)
Sad times
BRITISH DOUBLE STANDARDS
[info]cas_eme7nt wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 05:32 pm (UTC)
As someone who returned to this country about 8 years ago, having spent much of my life abroad, it disturbs me how many people in this country are addicted to hard-core pornography - and, yet, it is often the very same people who disapprove of naturism, thinking that it is some kind of "perversion". Perhaps someone somewhere might care to explain this attitude which I find incomprehensible.
they may go where the sun is, is caught and locked for 15 days.
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 05:38 pm (UTC)
Naturists lose their fight to go naked on the beaches.
I have said this and I will say this again. UK is a snob. First, we tell the teachers to teach the sex to the students so they do not walk the wrong path. Read the same paper on teaching sex. The when they move naked we stop them them. I agree walking like Tarzan or just in coconut leaves is not good but the nudity has no place in the decent atmosphere. We do not want to see these as we them in net. If the nudes want more sunshine they may go where the sun is, is caught and locked for 15 days. That is the Muslim law.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Re: they may go where the sun is, is caught and locked for 15 days.
[info]elise1912 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 06:07 pm (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't quite follow all your comment but last time I looked Britain wasn't subject to Muslim law....yet.

Re: they may go where the sun is, is caught and locked for 15 days.
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 06:13 pm (UTC)
Is said IF you must walk Nked GO THERE in the Sun
Life's a Beach
[info]cardrew wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 06:04 pm (UTC)
According to your map there are 10 designated naturist beaches for 60 Million people, so what is all the fuss about? For a country that makes Billions in tourism we are very narrow minded, have we considered what our foreign visitors want?

Have we become so oppressive in Britain, that we want to control every citizen, every minute?

If nudity offends you there are hundreds of other beaches to visit (most with bikinis and tangas),
topless is the norm across most of Europe.

The double standards of permitting the advertising industry to exploit us with nudity daily, and then state that nudity on beaches is offensive, sums up our warped logic.
Life's a Beach Andrew
[info]autolycustoo wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:34 pm (UTC)
As Andrew Welch (main article) says, it is not against the law to strip naked. Therefore naturists/nudists should find a fairly quiet spot on any beach or park, meadow or moorland and be nude, making sure that they do not break any other laws.
If and when they are brought before the courts, they will be found not guilty and eventually nudism will gain the freedom it feels is missing.
We must use our freedom, not be confined by ever-increasing restrictions. This applies to all matters of freedom - it must be defended.
Where I don't agree with some naturists is that they want exclusive use of public areas and some of them object to those who do not share their preferences. Also I am sure that it is not true that all naturists wish to be with like minded people, just as I am sure that not all motor cyclists wish to be with other motor cyclists or all plumbers wish to spend their leisure time with other plumbers.
I thought that happens only in countries like Saudi Arabia where they ban such things.
[info]djangovsartana wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:30 pm (UTC)
Is this country becoming a Saudi Arabia? I thought that happens only in countries like Saudi Arabia where they ban such things.
Nudist beaches to close
[info]victhebrit wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:55 pm (UTC)
The biggest problem for naturists in not their nakedness but more the Sun and News Of The World newshounds out for a "shocker" headline -but of course the page 3 nude does not count. The second problem is the hoards of lonely old men with expensive cameras and telephoto lenses...
Nudists & homosexuals are taking over
[info]chadi_salim wrote:
Wednesday, 29 April 2009 at 12:58 am (UTC)
The nudists claim that they're being discriminated against. By the same token the homosexual claim that they're also being discriminated against. What's a load of rubbish. You have been allocated your own places, beaches, gathering venues & laws specified to protect you & your welfare when we, the proper people, are being discriminated against & enjoy less privilages than you & go through court whenever we utter a word that is deemed offensive to you deviants.

What's next on the aganda? what are you planning to do? nudists schools, shooping centres, parliment, sport church... etc

Nudism & homosexuality were illegal before & then they become legal so now I am leaving the country before they take over & force every body to follow their footsteps
Re: Nudists and homosexuals are taking over
[info]colinscarr wrote:
Wednesday, 29 April 2009 at 03:09 am (UTC)
Chadi -Salim wrote "...we, the proper people..."

What a nasty, arrogant, intolerant little man you are.

Also your 'facts' are wrong. The closing of at least two naturist beaches is exactly the opposite of the nudist takeover you claim is happening.
sex
[info]algohare2008 wrote:
Tuesday, 11 August 2009 at 08:44 pm (UTC)
i need sex fee
Naturists: God's children!
[info]nudeagenesis wrote:
Monday, 2 November 2009 at 07:35 pm (UTC)
Right! Let's stop being apologetic and go on the attack!

The problem is we are in a sex-dominated society. This is why there are such misguided priorities, MrBuns.

I would astimate that about 80-85% of the british population is fundamentally perverted. This element represents most of the "textilian" clothes-wearing community. Just look at the discos, the pubs, the sex-shop department stores.

These are the people who cannot contemplate nudity without thinking of sex. One can guess what is on their collective mind when they are bathing the children. Which is interesting, as the number of convicted child abusers from textile wearing society is statistically extremely high pro rata compared with nudist society. We are where children are safe!

I suppose the reason for all this is that we naturists always have our "tackle" out, therefore we think nothing of it. It is less important to us than our arms, legs and head. Textilians however have their equipment encased for large periods so that, when it gets a few minutes airing, they feel compelled to use it for whatever unruly act they can manage.

Textilians are ashamed to show their bodies. Why? Simply because they know the truth about their single-track minds about nudity and where their carnal priorities lie. Clothes mask a well-earned guilty conscience.

Personally I do not want the nudist community to expand. At the moment we are safe away from the perverts, abusers and criminals who abound textilian society. You can recognise a textilian ringer in a fog. As soon as the kit is off, he/she is an instant "swinger". We would rather the filth stayed out of our community. Right now, we can leave our money on our towels. We can let our kids roam. We can allow our females down the beach alone. On the "other side" our children and women cannot be let out in full battle dress!

We do not want to share textilian beaches and their immoralities. Just let is have our own designated naturist areas where our children and women are safe. We will continue to live our healthy moralistic lives. We wont bother you lot. We won't even come near you.

We don't know what we might catch, lol!

Sorry, that bit was a joke! But only that bit!

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