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How a botched execution revived death penalty debate in America

Confidence in lethal injections is dwindling, thanks to cases such as that of Romell Broom. David Usborne reports

Lethal injection is the preferred method of execution in many states, but a moratorium has been imposed by some since 2007

AP

Lethal injection is the preferred method of execution in many states, but a moratorium has been imposed by some since 2007

The gruesome botching of an execution in Ohio on Tuesday, when technicians tried but failed to find a vein in a Death Row inmate through which to administer the required mortal fluids, is casting a fresh spotlight on the flaws in America's system of capital punishment system at a time when public support for it may already be flagging.

Lawyers for Romell Broom, convicted in the 1984 rape and killing of a 14-year-old girl abducted in Cleveland, were successful in blocking the state's plans to have a second go at dispatching him by lethal injection in three days' time, for the surreal reason that one week is not enough time for him to recover from his near-death. A federal judge issued a temporary restraining order yesterday, effective for 10 days.

The Broom case is one among several that in recent weeks have galvanised anti-death penalty campaigners. Others have included a grandmother on death row in Texas, Linda Carty, who, though from St Kitts originally, is of British nationality, and of another Texas inmate who, it now turns out, was tried by a judge who was romantically involved with prosecutor.

On Thursday a Texas court rejected the latest appeal by lawyers for 50-year-old Carty, claiming that her defence at trial had been sufficient, and taking her several steps closer to the death chamber. Earlier this month, supporters of Carty broadcast a message to the British public to help her from a loud speaker on a plinth in Trafalgar Square. "Please don't let me die here," said Carty, who maintains she was framed.

"If Texas goes ahead with her execution, Linda will die because she had a bad lawyer, and because the British government was not given the chance to help her at a time when it could have made a difference," Sally Rowen, legal director of the London-based anti-death penalty group Reprieve said yesterday. "Last week the British public listened to Linda from the fourth plinth, but the Fifth Circuit [the US appeals court] doesn't seem to be listening at all."

Broom's case does little to dispel the idea that Carty's end would not necessarily even be a peaceful one. The 53-year-old reportedly tried to assist technicians in finding a vein, at one point lying on his side and sliding the tube up and down his forearm and flexing his fingers. But his assistance did not help. At 2.49pm, according to a timeline compiled by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Broom "wiped his face with a tissue", and "appeared to be crying". Eventually, the team at the so-called "death house" gave up.

Defence lawyers contended that seven days was insufficient time for their client to overcome the horror of what had occurred. "Even if it never goes away, I think it's wrong to try to do it again so quickly in these circumstances," Tim Sweeney said. A federal judge has meanwhile ordered that Broom be allowed to give a legal deposition on Monday in a broader case brought by the Ohio public defenders' office challenging the practice of lethal injection.

Lethal injection is overwhelmingly the preferred method for carrying out executions. Executions were put on hold nationwide in 2007, however, while the Supreme Court examined the constitutionality of death by lethal injection. While the top court eventually ruled that executions could resume, issues over the use of lethal injection mean they are still on hold in several states.

Confidence in the effectiveness and reliability of the death penalty has been eroding since the beginning of the decade, when Illinois introduced a moratorium that still remains in place. Some states, including New Jersey and New Mexico, have passed laws banning the practice, and support appears to be slipping. Yet a majority of Americans remain opposed to any repeal.

Advocates of an end to executions in the US have had moments to cheer, most recently in August, when the Supreme Court for the first time issued a ruling allowing lower courts to re-open cases where inmates on Death Row seem to have new evidence. It did so in the case of Troy Anthony Davis. Since his conviction for killing a policeman in Georgia, seven prosecution witnesses have recanted their testimonies and appeals for a pardon have come from Jimmy Carter and the Pope.

But as they make steps forward, just as quickly they suffer setbacks. Thus although Charles Dean Hood, also on Texas' death row, was granted a last-minute reprieve in June 2008 when a former district attorney confirmed reports he had had an affair with the judge at his trial, the Texas Court of Appeals this week denied a request for a retrial saying that his defence team had raised the issue too late.

"This decision ... will only add to the perception that justice is skewed in Texas," said Andrea Keilen, executive director of Texas Defender Service, adding that it appears that "obvious and outrageous violations of the constitution are acceptable in death penalty cases". Romell Broom would doubtless agree that his treatment qualified as cruel and unusual. It is not yet clear whether the American legal system – and American public – will ever take the same view.

Ordeal by injection

*5.08am Broom wakes up.

*8.07am Chemicals are delivered to the death house.

*9.31am Preparations on hold while court weighs a last-minute appeal.

*12.28pm Broom eats creamed chicken, biscuits, green beans, potatoes, salad and grape drink.

*12.48pm Court says it will not review the appeal. Execution scheduled to begin at 1:30pm.

*1.24pm First round of lethal drugs is destroyed.

*1.31pm Replacements delivered.

*2.01pm Medical team enters holding cell and begins trying to insert IVs.

*2.30pm Unable to find a usable vein, team leaves cell to take a break.

*2.42pm Team members try again.

*2.44pm Prisons director Terry Collins orders another break.

*2.49pm Broom wipes his face with a tissue, appears to be crying.

*2.57pm Broom asks that his attorney be allowed to watch.

*Around 3pm, Broom's attorney asks Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas Moyer to stop the execution on the grounds that Broom is suffering cruel and unusual punishment.

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Rachael
[info]4truejustice wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:00 am (UTC)
It is hard to imagine how clearer an example of cruel and unusual punishment the American nation need before they are compelled to stand up and denounce this backward system of punishment. This is not an issue of the crime Mr Broom was convicted of. This is a question of whether a society wishes its justice system to emulate those it condemns as "cold blooded murderers" and itself commit serial murder in cold blood.

In the year 2009 it is hard to fathom that any rational person would consider the account above as being a justifiable way to treat a human being - because regardless of the hang 'em high brigade's protestations Mr Broom IS a human being. He is a human being with family who do not deserve to have society exact its revenge on them. Execution is never something done to one man or woman in isolation. The ripple effects on that person's family, that person's children, are eternal. Before the US is so quick to plunge the needle maybe it should consider if it truly wishes to be responsible for the damaged adults it will make of an executed man or woman's innocent children. The death penalty must end, or society will forever reap the catastrophic consequences of it.
Botched Execution
[info]billyjobob99 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:27 am (UTC)
Why must this poor man suffer in this way?
Maybe it is because of the heinous crime he commited and the massive ammount of pain he has caused. Why not let this be repeated over and over again to this beast. He gets a painless death but the pain will continue for the family and friends of the victim.
Re: Botched Execution
[info]4truejustice wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 07:30 am (UTC)
I speak as the family member of someone murdered many years ago now. Unfortunately the victim's family's pain is something not so easily extinguished by the death of another human being. If it were that simple billyjobob99 then there would be no grieving families in Texas. The fact that someone has caused immense pain to someone is no justification for torture - perhaps you choose to live with medieval standards and assume all victims' families do also. I for one will never seek to avenge my loved one's life by imposing grief on another family. Not all murder victims' families are that easy to lump into a box.

The fact that you wish for this torture to be repeated over and over I would venture says more about the fractured state of your mind than anything else. Quite scary to realize there are those with sadistic tendencies who would have our governments legitimize such backward thinking.
Re: Botched Execution - [info]ebbi581 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 11:49 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Botched Execution - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Botched Execution - [info]jv_123 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 04:08 pm (UTC) Expand
death penalty: Innocent but dead
[info]susansusa wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:41 am (UTC)
The case of Cameron Todd Willingham finally shows how flawed the system is. Willingham was tried, sentenced to death and executed in 2004, in Texas for killing his 3 children by starting the fire in which they died. We now know that the forensics used to convict him were horribly flawed and that the fire was an accident. David Grann has investigated this case and written about it in the New Yorker. You can read his article at http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann?
Petition Texas Governor Rick Perry to Admit Todd Willingham was Innocent
[info]stopexecutions wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 02:11 am (UTC)
Re: Petition Texas Governor Rick Perry to Admit Todd Willingham was Innocent
[info]phillydrifter wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:46 pm (UTC)
This has NOTHING to do with this article, and you are a troll.
aesthetics of death
[info]countottoblack wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:13 am (UTC)
Just for the record, falling from a hundred feet or more onto a hard surface such as concrete is absolutely guaranteed to kill a human being instantly. The very small number of seconds of suffering involved make this punishment a lot less cruel than most other forms of execution, though arguably unusual, simply because it isn't done. Why not? Because the end result, quick though it is, is a very messy corpse that really brings home to all concerned that somebody's life has just been ended on purpose. Therefore we don't do it, and instead rely on slower and ultimately nastier methods such as lethal injection that don't splatter blood all over the place. Talking of which, what's wrong with the guillotine? If somebody's head is off, you can pretty much guarantee that he or she is dead. But again, the resulting corpse is far from pretty. And in more than one piece.

This debate isn't really about the death penalty. It's about which method of imposing it makes us feel the least guilty. Never mind whether you're for or against capital punishment; why not campaign for the most effective method of ending a human life quickly to be used, irrespective of mess? It's not as if these guys get open-coffin funerals anyway, is it? From the felon's point of view, at least it's quick, and he isn't going to be around for the horrendous mopping-up. And from everybody else's viewpoint, it really brings home to us that somebody has been killed. By us. On purpose.

Discuss.
Re: aesthetics of death
[info]phillydrifter wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
"Just for the record, falling from a hundred feet or more onto a hard surface such as concrete is absolutely guaranteed to kill a human being instantly."

WRONG. There have been plenty of cases of people falling vastly longer distances and surviving. I'm not even going to look any up to provide you with proof, you can do that yourself.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
re stop executions
[info]jah3 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:14 am (UTC)
In Texas? Dream on! I would like to see Texas deal with the 600 plus prisoners on Death Row in San Quentin that we poor saps (the tax payers) are supporting.
Re: re stop executions
[info]ydef wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 04:53 am (UTC)
Texas will never be dealing with San Quentin as the prison is in California.
Re: re stop executions - [info]jah3 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC) Expand
American Executions Are As Archacic As The Taliban
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 05:17 am (UTC)
America is living a double life by continuing to kill offenders but then condemning Taliban for their cruelty
Re: American Executions Are As Archacic As The Taliban
[info]cleefish wrote:
Monday, 21 September 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)
I finnd myself agreeing with your ever word 100% trouble with the USA system is that they are tomany (George Bushes in control with death row inmates they seem to get some sadistic feeling to have some persons life in there hands guilty or not just think of uncle sam aand give them the chop.UTM
Lord Bradley UKingdom
14 year old girl
[info]thomas03blue wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 05:46 am (UTC)
I wonder how long it took for him to kill that little girl he just raped? I agree it should not have taken that long. I say hang him or shoot him those two methods seem to be very effective.
Solutions
[info]timspooner wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 07:06 am (UTC)
Hanging.OR
Machine gun to the head.OR
10 minutes with victim's families, provided with machetes or penknives OR
Crucifixion.

That should cause a stop to at least a few murders in future....
Re: Solutions
[info]tap_code wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 10:04 am (UTC)
The death penalty is not a unique deterent,if it were country's with harsher judicial systems than the USA would be almost crime free;they are not.

The only sure way to stop crime is detection,no potential criminal sets out on a crime if he knows he is certain to be detected.

If the Death Penalty had been available to the courts in the United Kingdom in the seventies, both the Birmingham six, and Giuldford four would have been Hanged.At that time,in both cases,the convictions were considered sound,years later their convictions turned out to be anything but sound and they were released, after suffering a grave injustice,to carry on with there shattered lives.
Re: Solutions - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:36 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Solutions - [info]fulkehunke - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 02:47 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Solutions - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 02:55 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Solutions - [info]fulkehunke - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 07:46 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Solutions - [info]ebbi581 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 11:51 am (UTC) Expand
Some hope
[info]larkspur_14 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 07:13 am (UTC)
America is in love with death. It loves its guns, its military and its death chambers. Attack the death penalty and you attack the heart of the American sense of identity. They're the guys with the six guns blazing away at "the other", killing for the Lord. Obama's precisely calculated appeal included supporting the death penalty as it supported the military. You have to reform America's heart and soul to get rid of this abomination.
Re: Some hope
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:16 pm (UTC)
Agreed, for all its modern claims, what we see in America is a retarded nation, caught up in a religious fervour and death frenzy that is out of place in the 21st century elsewhere but right at home over there, where President's can launch wars on hearing "God" in his head, it is time for America to grow up and become a normal nation...
Re: Some hope - [info]fulkehunke - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 10:11 pm (UTC) Expand
And these people are our allies?
[info]rustyroosterfan wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 08:13 am (UTC)
They are less human than al Qada.

The criminal justice system is in the USA is bad. A large number of states have elected judges who respond to popular sentiment. And once a verdict is in and the appeal period over, judges and DAs in many states ignore clear evidence of innocence.

The criminal justice system is in the USA is bad. The criminal justice system in Texas is monstrous.
Joining the civilized world
[info]rossolimo wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
Surely it is time for the United States to join the civilized world. While 'vengeance is mine saith' many in the US of A, there does come a time when nations need to grow up. There really is no excuse for such savagery and one can only be grateful that a few States in the US see this. State sanctioned murder is still murder. The death of one innocent person, and there have been many and could have been many more but for the advances in DNA technology, is greater than any perceived benefits which might come from State sanctioned killing. Such barbarism from a nation which presumes, but thankfully does not, 'lead the world' leaves the civilized world shaking its head in both sorrow and surprise.
[info]ebbi581 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 11:48 am (UTC)
"another Texas inmate who, it now turns out, was tried by a judge who was romantically involved with prosecutor"

this is what i call justice!!! when a judge turns out to be corrupt then may god help the rest.
What amateurs!
[info]thetitssayso wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:08 pm (UTC)
Lower a leg or an arm off the table, BELOW the level of the heart and the blood will pool, the veins will distend! Failing that, have the condemmned do some cardio to get the heart racing again. Failing that, just use bullets!!!!
Re: What amateurs!
[info]jah3 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 09:28 pm (UTC)
Try putting an IV in a drug addict. It is not as easy as you seem to think
The death penalty in the US
[info]jah3 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:22 pm (UTC)
So many superior comments on here about the US. I am an ex-pat who grew up in London and now live in San Francisco. I read daily about the wimpy police and lame system of justice in the UK, the latest in Leicestershire in which a woman committed suicide because the police wouldn't help her and her daughter who were being bullied. I love living here because California is tough on criminals.I would not like to be living in the area of North London where I grew up any more. In spite of the lower tolerance for criminals here we have over 600 prisoners on Death Row in San Quentin prison. Nobody has been executed for several years because they have decided that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment. It is still in the courts, but in the meantime we tax payers are paying for their keep. Although Texas is too conservative a state for me to want to live in, I wish they somehow had the power to do something with all our lowlifes on Death Row.
Remedy
[info]gradkiss wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 12:29 pm (UTC)
The consequences of using punishment in a judicial system, rather than instituting remedy...only punishes the innocent. We all exist on a time-line, and like dominoes...one act causes another, and another. When the unmoral acts are not remedied...only more of the same unmoral events will reappear.
Truth is...punishment of any form is both barbaric (unintelligent) and unusual (not common), as everything else in this abode follows another direction...especially humans...as we are "leaven", beings of increase, rather than destruction.
Humans need remedy mistakes...and go on to enjoy prosperity. Every individual was born perfect...perfect for what surrounded them.
Re: Remedy
[info]corporeal_v002 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 09:43 pm (UTC)

One of the remedies is death for crimes that deserve it.

Humans are not born with equal moral values, most have good genes, some have bad.

Moral values are obtained by nature and nurture - some cannot ever be corrected and for the sake of society they must be destroyed. We cannot afford to go soft on such matters. Life is hard and unfair - that is life...
They CAN'T execute him now, it would be unconstitutional!
[info]phillydrifter wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 01:44 pm (UTC)
It would be punishing him twice for the same crime, which is strictly forbidden in the Bill of Rights!

(relevant portion of) Amendment V: ...nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...

Full text of Amendment 5:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Re: They CAN'T execute him now, it would be unconstitutional!
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 02:18 pm (UTC)
Technically they didn't punish him the first time because they failed to perform the execution. Delaying a person's punishment is not unconstitutional.
classic 'dilemma' - [info]phillydrifter - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 02:28 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: classic 'dilemma' - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:00 pm (UTC) Expand
i don't care. - [info]phillydrifter - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: i don't care. - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: i don't care. - [info]phillydrifter - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: They CAN'T execute him now, it would be unconstitutional! - [info]uanime5 - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:03 pm (UTC) Expand
you missed the 'twice' part - [info]phillydrifter - Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:11 pm (UTC) Expand
Neither cruel nor unusual
[info]dudleysharp wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:40 pm (UTC)
Just as in surgery, if a good vein cannot be aquired, there is a procedure called a cutdown. I suspect that is what they will do next time, just as they would do with any patient with the same issue.

Just do a Google search of

cutdown surgery

and you will find it





Re: Neither cruel nor unusual
[info]jah3 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 09:25 pm (UTC)
You need to be a medical professional to do a cutdown. The prison staff trying to find veins are not. Medical people are not usually involved in executions because of the understanding that they should "do no harm". A Doctor or nurse can actually loose their licence for participating in executions, whatever their views on the subject may be.
Troy Davis: Both sides need to be told
[info]dudleysharp wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:42 pm (UTC)
Most of these anti death penalty campaigns work the same way. Introduce a deceptive/incomplete picture of the case and see if you can begin a campaign that will catch on. Sometimes it works, like Davis', sometimes it doesn't.

Almost without exception, if the full facts were presented, there would be no groundswell of support to start a movement.

Troy Davis: Both sides need to be told
Dudley Sharp, contact info below

Anyone interested in justice will demand a fair, thorough look at both sides of this or any case. Here is the side that the pro Troy Davis faction is, intentionally, not presenting.

(1) Davis v Georgia, Georgia Supreme Court, 3/17/08
Full ruling http://www.gasupreme.us/pdf/s07a1758.pdf
Summary http://www.gasupreme.us/op_summaries/mar_17.pdf

" . . . the majority finds that 'most of the witnesses to the crime who have allegedly recanted have merely stated that they now do not feel able to identify the shooter.' "One of the affidavits 'might actually be read so as to confirm trial testimony that Davis was the shooter.' "

The murder occurred in 1989.


(2) "THE PAROLE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION OF THE TROY ANTHONY DAVIS CASE" , 9/22/08, http://www.pap.state.ga.us/opencms/opencms/

"After an exhaustive review of all available information regarding the Troy Davis case and after considering all possible reasons for granting clemency, the Board has determined that clemency is not warranted."

"The Board has now spent more than a year studying and considering this case. As a part of its proceedings, the Board gave Davis� attorneys an opportunity to present every witness they desired to support their allegation that there is doubt as to Davis� guilt. The Board heard each of these witnesses and questioned them closely. In addition, the Board has studied the voluminous trial transcript, the police investigation report and the initial statements of all witnesses. The Board has also had certain physical evidence retested and Davis interviewed."


(3) A detailed review of the extraordinary consideration that Davis was given for all of his claims,
by Chatham County District Attorney Spencer Lawton http://tinyurl.com/46c73l

Troy Davis' claims are undermined, revealing the dishonesty of the Davis advocates . Look, particularly, at pages 4-7, which show the reasoned, thoughtful and generous reviews of Davis' claims, as well a how despicable the one sided cynical pro Troy Davis effort is.


(4) Officer Mark Allen MacPhail: The family of murdered Officer MacPhail fully believes that Troy Davis murdered their loved one and that the evidence is supportive of that opinion. http://www.markallenmacphail.com/

Not simply an emotional and understandable plea for justice, but a detailed factual review of the case.


(5) "Death and Dying", by Cliff Green, LIKE THE DEW, 7/22/09,
http://likethedew.com/2009/07/22/death-and-dying/

Dudley Sharp, Justice Matters
e-mail sharpjfa@aol.com 713-622-5491,
Houston, Texas

Mr. Sharp has appeared on ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN, C-SPAN, FOX, NBC, NPR, PBS, VOA and many other TV and radio networks, on such programs as Nightline, The News Hour with Jim Lehrer, The O'Reilly Factor, etc., has been quoted in newspapers throughout the world and is a published author.

A former opponent of capital punishment, he has written and granted interviews about, testified on and debated the subject of the death penalty, extensively and internationally.

Hood case
[info]dudleysharp wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 03:43 pm (UTC)
I had to side with the dissent on this one.
WWJD
[info]mmaddox wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 05:10 pm (UTC)
Many supporters of the death penalty in the US are also "Christians".
That's one case where they surely forget to ask "what would Jesus do?".
In fact, according to their scriptures, we know what he did. He forgave.

The blood lust in some of the comments here is disturbing. The state has an obligation to protect citizens from psychopathic killers, but there is no obligation to do so by killing them. Locking them up is enough.

Therefore, killing is a choice. Wanting to exercise that choice makes you a killer in your heart, even if you delegate the actual business of killing to someone else. What a burden to carry.
Re: WWJD
[info]corporeal_v002 wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 09:24 pm (UTC)

That may be over simplistic.

Jesus may forgive in certain cases, but he's more likely to opt for old testament option of the eye-of-an-eye, life-for-a-life.

Remeber it is prophecised that the returning Jesus will be the warrior who will slay the anti-Christ, not just sit back and forgive the anti-Christ...
Re: WWJD - [info]cube2424 - Sunday, 20 September 2009 at 01:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: WWJD - [info]corporeal_v002 - Sunday, 20 September 2009 at 08:32 pm (UTC) Expand
How utterly appalling
[info]hvman_b3ing wrote:
Saturday, 19 September 2009 at 09:26 pm (UTC)
Despite the horrific nature of the crime (allegedly) committed by this individual, no human should endure that kind of torment at the hands of a supposedly civilised nation. The death penalty in itself is barbaric and completely out of place in the twenty first century but when the process is dragged out due to the incompetence of those responsible for ending the prisoner's life it is sickening.

In addition to the ethics of this practice, we hear of cases time and time again where mistakes have undoubtedly been made and the case against the suspect has been anything but fair.

Considering this latest cockup and the blatant fallibility of the American judicial system (and I am by no means maintaining the Uk system is perfect), the death penalty moratorium become a permanent ban and should be extended to all states.
execution
[info]amberspyglas666 wrote:
Sunday, 20 September 2009 at 03:29 pm (UTC)
Civilized countries don't execute people.

Period, end of story.
Minimal Public Good for Maximum Cost
[info]aruggles wrote:
Monday, 21 September 2009 at 01:57 pm (UTC)
The death penalty costs millions more than life without parole, it costs much more in prosecutor's time and effort, it costs a great deal in international reputation by maintaining it and by these grotesque spectacles. The sole product are dead criminals (along with a few dead innocent people), and a warm feeling that justice has been done, which itself rises from the basest of human impulses for revenge. I would rather have a justice system that actually maintains public safety and security than one that makes the "good" people of the society feel better. As an American tax payer I'm wondering what I am paying for in maintaining the death penalty. The answer is not very much, especially as I don't have this warm feeling of retribution when I see the death of another human being.
Lethal Injection should be legal in all states
[info]kvanslee wrote:
Friday, 16 October 2009 at 06:42 am (UTC)
Don't let one bad apple spoil it for the whole bunch. Meaning just because one or two were botched just means we have to perfect our lethal injection process. I'm totally for lethal injection. Why do we as tax payers want to keep spending our money to feed, cloth, and educate these so called human beings. why do we have to spend so much money just to wait for them to die. I say put them to death right away just like they did there victims. The punishment should fit the crime. We need a better process for these animals instead of letting them have the freedom that they took from there victims. How come they get a chance for a last meal and to talk to there family's, when they did not give there victims that opportunity to say good bye. or to see there loved ones, one last chance.

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