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Maine votes against gay marriage law

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Friends console one another after learning about the unofficial defeat on Question 1 at election night headquarters in Portland, Maine.

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Friends console one another after learning about the unofficial defeat on Question 1 at election night headquarters in Portland, Maine.

Cecelia Burnett and Ann Swanson had already set their wedding date. When they joined about 1,000 other gay marriage supporters for an election night party in a Holiday Inn ballroom, they hoped to celebrate the vote that would make it possible.

Instead, they went home at midnight, dejected and near tears after a failed bid to make Maine the first state to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box.

"I'm ready to start crying," said Burnett, a 58-year-old massage therapist, walking out of the ballroom with Swanson at her side. "I don't understand what the fear is, why people are so afraid of this change.

"It hurts. It hurts personally," she said. "It's a personal rejection of us and our relationship, and I don't understand what the fear is."

With 87 per cent of precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 per cent of the vote in a referendum that asked Maine voters whether they wanted to repeal a law allowing same-sex marriage that had passed the Legislature and was signed by Democratic Gov. John Baldacci.

"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," said Frank Schubert, the chief organizer for Stand for Marriage Maine, which lobbied for the repeal.

For the gay rights movement, which has gained a foothold in New England, it was a stinging defeat. Gay marriage has now lost in every state - 31 in all - in which it has been put to a popular vote. Gay-rights activists had hoped to buck that trend in Maine, framing same-sex marriage as a matter of equality for all families in a campaign that used 8,000 volunteers to get out the message.

Five states have legalized gay marriage - Iowa, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire and Connecticut - but all did so through legislation or court rulings, not by popular vote.

Portland resident Sarah Holman said she was torn, but decided - despite her conservative upbringing - to vote in favor of letting gays marry.

"They love and they have the right to love. And we can't tell somebody how to love," said Holman, 26.

While the gay marriage opponents claimed victory, Jesse Connolly, campaign manager for No on 1/Protect Maine Equality, held off conceding until early Wednesday, when he issued a statement vowing to continue to press the issue.

The fight for marriage equality will continue, he told supporters at the Holiday Inn ballroom, where a buffet table included a three-tiered wedding cake - with two grooms standing side by side, two brides standing side by side and the inscription: "We all do!"

"We're not short-timers. We're here for the long haul and whether it's just all night and into the morning, or it's next week or next month or next year. We will be here. We'll be here fighting. We'll be working. We will regroup."

For Burnett and Swanson, the July 10 wedding date, and a reception cruise on Casco Bay, is off.

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we're in it for the long haul
[info]squirrelscot wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 04:10 pm (UTC)
in years to come, people will wonder what the fuss was about, in the same way that (most of) today's population don't think twice about women having the vote or apartheid and segregation being morally indefensible.

it's well-known that socially contentious issues often go through three distinct phases: 1. ridicule ("women voting? what do they know of politics?!") 2. fervent opposition ("there's no way that blacks are equal to me!") 3. acceptance of a self-evident truth ("of course gay people should be able to marry their partners"). we may not be there yet, but we will get there eventually...in Britain as well as the States.
Re: we're in it for the long haul
[info]colinru wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 05:45 pm (UTC)
I do not understand your comment. Britain has Civil Partnerships that allow Homosexuals and Lesbians to enter legally binding partnerships that are, effectively, almost equivalent to a marriage. Why will we get there eventually. We already are there!
Re: we're in it for the long haul
[info]zzvc wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 11:31 am (UTC)
you miss the point - allowing civil partnership for same sex couples, which are as you say "almost" equivalent to marriage, is basically saying: you are second-class citizens so you can have a second class marriage.

However it is a step in the right direction, and as many people say, we will get there eventually.
Re: we're in it for the long haul
[info]colinru wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
Your post is what I suspected the previous post was implying. Homosexuals and Lesbians wanted a Marriage, even though a Civil Union gives them the same legal protections. This is, thus, not about protections but about them wanting to be thought to be as "normal" as Heterosexuals. In other words, it is not about rights but about wanting to be accepted as being the same.

I do not agree and I do not believe that this acceptance will happen. Homosexuals and Lesbians are different, most accept that this is the way that it is but some will not. Most Heterosexuals tolerate difference and a majority, IMHO, accept difference. A few cannot even tolerate difference (that is their difference).
Lust for life
[info]oldgriper wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 06:58 pm (UTC)
I cannot understand the furore among the gay community about their denial of a 'Marriage'.

As an ordinary person, my belief is that the institution of marriage between man and woman is to bond the couple for life and to give stability to the family. Love, respect and trust being some of the essential ingredients.

A relationship between two people of the same sex is based on sexual gratification.

I don't criticise or sit in judgement of their way of life. But I don't agree that marriage (in the true sense of the word) be hijacked for erroneous reasons.
Re: Lust for life
[info]ode2darkness wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 07:31 pm (UTC)
oldgriper, you do realise that gay people can adpot and love and cherish their family? Oh, ok so you probably do not agree with the fact that adopted children may not be genetically linked to the parents and this is somehow deducting from the 'pure' and 'whole' idea of a 'family'.

Ok see lets turn the page....two people of oppsite sex get married...but wait! One of them is infertile. What do you do? As in YOU oldgriper. This is my question, the partner you love and want to love you for the rest of your life is infertile...but you want to be together beacuse YOU LOVE EACHOTHER. And if you do, are you not going to do what is natural to you both, making love i.e sexual gratification? Lets just say that you don't and that love alone without physical attraction and action is enough....surely that is PERSONAL CHOICE.

So. Why in your 'ordinary' eyes are gay people making a furore?? It is down to the couple wether they want to have sex of not. You do realize that there are gay people out there who may not want to have sex at all for whatever reason? The furore is not about sexual gratification its about people being able to share love openly and honestly. Trust me, gay people have been doing sexual gratification (or not) for as long as man has had curiosity, emotions and feelings. Surely the maturity, seriousness behind such 'furore' shows that gay people are capable of reaching beyond just gratification??????

And there you see!? In one fell swoop I have shown you that gay marriage is not erroneous, it is not hijacking anything but your fear of change. Gay people can love, respect and trust too. And much much more.



Re: Lust for life
[info]tonygfd wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 09:47 pm (UTC)
but marriage is "hijacked for erroneous reasons" already by people of opposite sexes.
SO whats the difference ?
And to say that people of the same sex only want to get married for sexual gratification is an assumption by you, it is not a fact (sexual gratification is achieved without the need to be 'married').
Gay "Marriage"
[info]forestcat72 wrote:
Wednesday, 4 November 2009 at 09:08 pm (UTC)
As a registered voter from Maine, I'd like to clarify something from the above article. Yes, we voted to repeal the law to allow gay couples to marry in Maine. However, this isn't the first time we've done so. The referendum was put up to allow same sex couples to marry and was handily voted down. Then our illustrious governor signed it into law against the will of the Maine people. A segment of our population decided they were having none of this and put up another referendum. Again it has been voted down.

The gay community can be in it for the long haul as they state, but we will still vote against it. What they could do is change the civil union to include all the rights they wish and more than likely we would vote for it. However, that would mean they would have to do the research on what rights to include and have a referendum written up. This just might include more work than just saying they want to be "married". Oh well, if you're in it for the long haul, put your noses to the grind stone and work for it.

This vote was not fueled by fear. It was fueled by the moral right. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman under God. Why would a gay couple want that anyway? They don't. What they want is all the rights handed to them without having to do anything but pay the notary public a few dollars and say I do.

I for one am tired of working to help fuel the liberal agenda. Get off your ass and do something for your country and community instead of trying to take from everyone else. They say they deserve this right. You have your rights. They are called human rights.
Re: Gay "Marriage"
[info]ode2darkness wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 01:23 pm (UTC)
forestcat72:

"Marriage is a union between a man and a woman under God. Why would a gay couple want that anyway?"

You are clearly blinded by scripture.

And why should gay people have to fight for something that feels as natural to them as it does for a man and woman. In fact I struggle to recognise gender and I look at people. And guess what? I am not gay. I have had encounters with the same sex and have fallen in love with people of the same sex. I am now with a man who is wonderful, 13 years older than me and claims to sometimes feel more like a woman than a man and has expressed an interest in wearing women's clothing!

Life isn't as clear as all that. I do not agree with the stagnant laws that swep this world, this empiricism where we all talk about measuring human rights. It is vile.

Furthermore, you seem to paint gay people as lazy, moaners who want 'all the rights handed to them'! Truly, you must be aware that many many gay communities all over the world fight for all sorts of things! They wouldn't be behind it in Main so passionately if they weren't dedicated. And if they have to realize that they need to get deeper into the law then that is what they will do. Do you think black people in the 50s onward stopped pushing beacuse of some written law, put down by ghost authorities from the past? Hell no, beacuse many of them were born into a world where they were treated differently for something that is apart of their genetic makeup. They cannot rip that away. So whats a person going to do but stand up for themselves? I guess you could say its the same with being gay.

Have you even hung out with any other gay communities in your area? I take it as a Christian (if that is what you are) you will not lie to me and say you have if you haven't If you have then I would say you need to go back and really talk to people. Your words sound like they are formed from spoon fed, screened information with no real grip on the matters at the heart...which is if you missed it by now is that PEOPLE love. No God should stop two consenting adults to decide to be together. Even if they are of the same sex.
Re: Gay "Marriage"
[info]tonygfd wrote:
Thursday, 5 November 2009 at 09:52 pm (UTC)
Us versus "them" comes through strongly in your comments. This is what needs to change, then the 'same rights for all' will follow.
Bias media
[info]katl08 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 December 2009 at 08:14 pm (UTC)
Its discusting how the media is so bias and portrays the homosexuals as victims and poor individuals, whos life is a ruin now because 'discrimination'. ugh. I dont see them portraying a good picture of all those families who voted aginst gay marriage, who want to protect their children, morals, and beliefs. And majority of families are good families that are trying to bring up their children right, to teach them abstinence and love and MORALITY.

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