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Obama's host dies from 'flu-like symptoms'

By Stephen Foley in New York

The White House says that Barack Obama is "highly engaged" in monitoring the swine flu outbreak that has spread over the border from Mexico into the US – and well he might. For a while, the President's doctors feared that he may have come closer than almost anyone in the country to contracting the virus.

According to alarming reports from Mexico City, Felipe Solis, a distinguished archaeologist who showed Mr Obama around the city's anthropology museum during his visit to Mexico earlier this month, died the next day from "flu-like symptoms".

Mr Solis met the President at a gala dinner which was held at the museum on 16 April, before Mr Obama travelled on to the Americas summit in Trinidad and Tobago.

Yesterday, the museum was shut, in common with most public attractions in Mexico City, and the nation's Health Minister confirmed that Mr Solis had died of pneumonia – but that it was not thought he had contracted swine flu.

In the US, the White House said that the President's doctors had given him an all-clear. Mr Obama showed no symptoms after the usual incubation period, his spokesman said.

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NOT TRUE...
[info]violetsmart wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 12:41 am (UTC)
I first found this news item in a New York Times story and, because I am fluent in Spanish, I checked a number of Mexican newspapers and online publications.

According to these, noted archeologist Felipe Solis Holguin died of a heart attack and not the day after he showed Obama around the Museum of Anthropology, but on 23 April. Obama visited Mexico on 16 and 17 April.
iNDEPENDENT - Shouldn't You Retract The Story
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:14 pm (UTC)
if 'violetsmart' is correct this newspaper should retract the story and apologise for misleading its readers.
Re: iNDEPENDENT - Shouldn't You Retract The Story - [info]violetsmart - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 02:47 pm (UTC) Expand
Blame game
[info]fedgar wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:45 am (UTC)
Our presidents seem to be the object of universal blame.
Will Obama escape this or will he be accused of bringing the swine virus to Mexico
on his visit and causing a pandemic?

F. Edgar Pierce
fpierce@ameritech.net

Re: Blame game
[info]tominlondon wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 08:28 am (UTC)
I blame Al Quaeda.
Re: Blame game - [info]mariasilvia - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:21 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]kuma2000 - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 04:24 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]rogerrab - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 09:49 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]siletzlady - Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 06:14 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game
[info]virginia_1976 wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:14 am (UTC)
Well, the Brits have a problem 'moving on', especially when it comes to the former colonies. Fair dos, it's difficult to get out of the habit of blaming Bush - we did that, ourselves; but blaming anything American is second nature to this country. I call it 'the Yorktown syndrome'.

Conversely, if anything American has a whiff of Brit about it and is at the top of its league, they'll claim it as their own. They were perfectly happy to crow about Britney Spears's or Andy Roddick's ENGLISH grandparent when those two were top of the heap.

Something about 'the playing fields of Eton or whatever.'
Re: Blame game - [info]bogwart16 - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]ydef - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]bogwart16 - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:27 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]fiberoptica - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 06:48 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]bogwart16 - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:54 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]profqawagstaff - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:25 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]profqawagstaff - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:30 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]bogwart16 - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 01:44 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]profqawagstaff - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 07:52 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]ydef - Monday, 4 May 2009 at 03:34 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]bogwart16 - Monday, 4 May 2009 at 03:56 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]ydef - Monday, 11 May 2009 at 09:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]steve_wilds - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 09:31 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Blame game - [info]ancientoneuk - Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 04:51 am (UTC) Expand
What the...
[info]mmaddox wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 03:15 am (UTC)
Are the Independent headline writers getting extra training from the scandal mongering tabloids?

This is the height of irresponsibility. "Flu like symptoms" become "pneumonia" and "not thought of...swine flu".

Even then, how does a healthy person die of pneumonia in one day? One day you are well enough to show the President around and the next day you catch pneumonia and die? Whoever wrote it ought to be sent to another job that does not tax the intellect as much.

Shameless fear mongering.
Re: What the...
[info]sloopycat wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 03:49 am (UTC)
How does a person die of the flu in one day? Ask my grandfather who died in one day during the 1918 pandemic. He was a healthy 35 years of age and spent the evening training troops on a football field in Lincoln, Nebraska. The next day he was dead. When this virus and or bacteria invades an otherwise healthy, young person whose immune system is at it's peak, the immune response is to flood the body with fluids. The lungs cannot process the fluid and the victim suffocates (pneumonia). Ergo, the reason why this age group being the one dying in Mexico is so alarming.
Re: What the... - [info]huakul - Monday, 11 May 2009 at 04:59 am (UTC) Expand
Re: What the... - [info]rayleddy - Monday, 27 April 2009 at 08:08 am (UTC) Expand
NOT TRUE
[info]georgesign wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 06:36 am (UTC)
You must understand the motto of all media. "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story". Just think of all the reports in the media and ask yourself how many of these things are really true.
swine Flu
[info]meerkat21 wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 07:23 am (UTC)
Commercial farming on large scale is responsible for the spread of disease like Bird Flu, BSE and now Swine flu.
Continued dependence on animal flesh will only result in mass pandemics like this one and maybe the answer to human over population.

Be VEGETARIAN- much cheaper, much cleaner , better for the environment and better your health - a win -win situation overall!!
Re: swine Flu
[info]the_denunciator wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:37 pm (UTC)
If man wasnt meant to eat animals God wouldnt have made them taste like meat now would he??
Re: swine Flu - [info]bickerpediaguy - Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 11:16 pm (UTC) Expand
Really?
[info]sheumais wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 07:42 am (UTC)
I've thought I've had flu a couple of times, but, if your report is partially correct, I may have had a heart attack.
So.. heart-attack or flu?
[info]dbasrus wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 07:52 am (UTC)
If it indeed turns out that Solis died of a heart-attack, it will be a deeply shameful day for the Independent, or ought to be. Perhaps they won't give a fuck?
BLAME GAME
[info]xnagendra wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 10:45 am (UTC)
It's all Gordon Brown's fault!
Re: BLAME GAME
[info]w1551ns wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 05:14 pm (UTC)
He's in Afghanistan confronting the 'crucible of terror', amazing ,for a man that didn't have the 'balls' to confront the British electorate
Pig pirates
[info]radson wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 01:58 pm (UTC)
Iblame it on the Pirates,but is the porc kosher
Ernesto
[info]ernesto_mx wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 04:46 pm (UTC)
What "alarming reports"? What's the source of this information?

I thought the Independent had higher journalistic standards. 'Essential US trips only,' you say, but the WHO website says "WHO is not recommending any travel or trade restrictions." http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html

Why do you exploit people's fears with ill-funded rumours passed as news?
Truth vs. Sensationalism
[info]janinec4 wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 06:13 pm (UTC)
I don't like the way they reported this story. I am no fan of Obama's but I still believe in reporting responsibly. Still, while this story sounds like it was somewhat contrived, I wonder if the Mexican papers are necessarily telling the truth also. They are not always forthcoming with honesty.
Mexican Embassy, White House Deny...
[info]violetsmart wrote:
Monday, 27 April 2009 at 11:04 pm (UTC)
The Mexican Embassy in Washington has denied that archeologist Felipe Solis died of swine flu. He had a pre-existing condition. So has the White House.
he died of a heart attack, a complication of pneumonia
[info]tryme2012 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 12:43 am (UTC)
From infidels
[info]rompecoglioni wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:09 pm (UTC)
Will not be that sinfully for an Arab to die of swine flu???
Blame Game
[info]denbundy36 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 04:18 pm (UTC)
i blame you, you know who you are!!!
Solis' death
[info]gedo2884 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 04:19 pm (UTC)
Media coverup in progress>> Original "Reforma" info picked up by Bloomberg had Solis' death at April 17th. Info is being changed/distorted in the last 10days. You are welcome, BLIND SHEEPLE!!!
Not True?
[info]estebancafe1 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:12 pm (UTC)
To implicitly suggest that Mexico would not falsify its reporting ("The flu may have originated in the US") and that the US did so is a an interesting angle. The lies from Mexico are staggering, as are the number of illegals pouring over OUR borders. Of course they don't think it started there: that is our cultural perogative: truth is what we want to believe. Violet, do you not you know this?

Esteban Cafe
America & the teeming Bogwarts who want in
[info]estebancafe1 wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 07:21 pm (UTC)
Since my time in America I have come to appreciate it very much. Mr. Bogwart speaks with the same jealous strains I have heard from ffamily members and former friends--all who complain about America but quietly ask questions about the best way to get in. Mr. Bogwart, you are dismissed.

Esteban Cafe
Re: America & the teeming Bogwarts who want in
[info]bogwart16 wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 04:04 pm (UTC)
Jealousy? That's the funniest thing I've heard for a while. Why would I want to be part of a population of slow-witted hippos and watch over half of my taxes being spent on being the civilised world's most belligerent and detested country? Hah.
at least 2 million people are very ill right now with the common cold
[info]lee_ji_me wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 09:38 pm (UTC)
I think the media are getting hysterical. If you think about it - millions of people right now across the world are dying of something, AIDS, Cancer, Flu, Starvation, Poverty. People Die. People are Born. That's life. We have all these drugs to help against the spread of the virus - why are we not getting it? I bet all the super rick have already had their protection. It is a bug that can be controlled. Why the hysteria?
Re: at least 2 million people are very ill right now with the common cold
[info]mscir wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 10:23 pm (UTC)
Good point, the media loves this kind of story because it gets our minds off of the real problems we have, the real criminals running our country, and how Obama is not dealing with them.

For example the US spends more than all of the rest of the countries in the world combined on "defense".

Am I the only person who is shocked and outraged and disgusted by this?

If we cut that in half we could make all of the Obama campaign promises come true, but of course we're not. Instead we cut school programs like art, music, sports, and after school stuff that would reduce gang attendance, we build more prisons, we watch our infrastructure rot, we export our factories (already over half) to foreign countries, give a good percentage of the new lower paying service jobs to illegal aliens who flow across our porous border with impunity to have anchor babies on welfare, driving hospitals out of business and overwhelming school systems. Oh yes, and we print money like water, all the while if we take a miniscule half step towards any band aid solutions the Republicans cry " OH GOD NO THAT'S SOCIALISM ".

What a nightmare. It's like the country is being destroyed from within. Who needs war when idiots and war pigs like this run things?
the sad state of our media
[info]mscir wrote:
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 10:14 pm (UTC)
I'm an American and I think bogwart16 definitely has a point, we have caused a lot of unnecessary suffering in the world in the name of greed, ask Harold Pinter rense.com/general85/TAP.HTM. Anyone who is able to read can find out that our media coverage of real news is terrible, that corporations do run our country, that most members of Congress work for whoever pays them the most money, that many of the biggest gov't org's are corrupt, that the people are not told the truth about a lot of very serious issues. We no longer run our country, it is not a representative democracy.

But don't take my word for it - read anything political by Gore Vidal or Noam Chomsky, 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man' by John Perkins, 'Globalization and its Discontents' by Joseph E. Stiglitz, 'The Twilight of American Culture' by Morris Berman, 'The New Nuclear Danger' by Helen Caldicott, etc. etc. They're probably all in your local library, turn off your TV and stop going to idiotic movies and start educating yourselves. If you think bogwart16 is angry for no good reason then you simply don't read enough. Your media is controlled, whether you like it or not. What's an example... just look at how one sided the coverage of Israel vs Palestine is. Look at who owns the media companies.

bogwart16 had the guts to say what he believes to be true, you can't prove him wrong by being a nationalistic simpleton, read books, educate yourselves, prove him wrong with fats... if you can.
British Bombast
[info]chungking23 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 April 2009 at 07:00 pm (UTC)
The British as a people are pretty much done because they've let every kind of swine come into their country through massive third world immigration that will probably turn a lot of the Brits into Islamic fascists. Its pretty apparent that the New World Order is being run through Britain these days especially listening to the rantings of the subhuman Gordon Brown.

Here is to hoping that the British continue their downward fall into their own police state under the fascists that run the country and have cameras at every intersection and house watching your every move. After all, wasn't Eric Blair correct about 1984 just that he was off by 25 years. Other than that, he foresaw the British experiment with a police state.

Which in retrospect is why the Americans kicked you all over the colonies and we could definitely do it again today. There are enough Americans that would gladly volunteer again today for sure. I'm seeing it more and more every day. We like our guns in America and just remember that General Gage and his scum was trying to stop the people from having guns. Oops, that started a bloody war with the losers. Guess that might have to happen again so that the socialist scum in the UK and even in the US gets the point. A lot of Americans aren't socialists and there are enough of us to make your day a living hell.
mass mind manipulation
[info]tao2299 wrote:
Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 03:10 pm (UTC)
Did you know that in th US there are about 15000 flu related deaths each year? World wide the number is near 250000. We now have what? 250-300 confirmed cases? In the 86400 seconds of each day 86000 people die. There are more people world wide each day that die from falling down the stairs of their own home then the total number of confirmed cases of this Horrid outbreak of swine flu (slight sarcasm here). Come on people dont buy into this obvious attempt to manipulate the fear and paranoia of the "masses" . Pay attention, The media is under control of a very small group of firms that use it to keep you complacent and malliable to their agendas.
Peace

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