Dancing in the streets after gay sex is declared legal in India
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Gay rights activists celebrate the ruling in Delhi yesterday. The government said it is prepared to review the law
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Jubilant crowds cheered outside a Delhi court yesterday after judges announced that gay sex was not a crime – a landmark ruling for India that spells the end for a 150-year-old law introduced by the British Raj.
Activists danced in the streets after the Delhi High Court ruled that "consensual sex amongst adults is legal which includes even gay sex and sex among the same sexes". The judgment, which technically only applies to the country's capital but which will have national implications, will boost the small but increasingly vocal gay rights movement.
"The mood inside the court was electric, it was incredible," said Gautam Bhan, who has been campaigning for the repeal of so-called "Section 377" for 10 years. "The judges quoted from a speech by Jawaharlal Nehru about India's inclusiveness. We were in tears, we were openly crying in court."
Another campaigner, Lesley Esteves, a journalist who was also at the court, said: "It's a historic day for queer people and everybody else in India. Finally we have been able to throw off this colonial legacy. I hope that other members of the Commonwealth are also able to do this."
Campaigners who had launched a legal challenge to the law said it was anti-constitutional because it acted as an impediment to fighting Aids as many gay people declined to be identified because of fear of harassment or discrimination. "We have finally entered the 21st century," said Anjali Gopalan, leader of Naz Foundation, a leading health and gay rights lobby which had brought the lawsuit.
Despite the court's decision, Section 377 can only be repealed by parliament. In recent days the government has indicated that it may be prepared to review the law and is considering getting rid of it.
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If sex is for procreation then only have sex for procreation. Don't be a hypocrite!
As for those 'heterosexuals' who feel the need to control 'non heterosexual' indviduals, mind your own business. To equate aids and paedophillia with homosexuality is to equate heterosexuality with overpopulation, pollution, war, cults etc.
"For example, a doctor who smokes yet advises a patient that smoking is dangerous to one's health is not incorrect in this advice merely because the doctor also smokes. Also, a doctor who truly believes smoking is dangerous yet smokes is not a hypocrite simply because he/she practices dangerous behavior. Instead, to accurately label as hypocrite a doctor who advises patients that smoking is dangerous, the doctor would have to actually believe smoking is not dangerous yet in front of others pretend to believe the opposite, regardless of whether the doctor also smokes."
Paedophilia is neither gay nor straight because these two sexualities involve sex between adults. Paedophilia is sex with children, who because of their immaturity are unable to give consent to the sexual activity done to them. There are paedophiles who sexually abuse boys and there are paedophiles who sexually abuse girls and there quite a number who are happy to sexually abuse both, but homosexuals and heterosexuals are only interested in having sex with adults. Your muddled and rather bizarre thinking implies that all adult gays and straights are also paedophiles!
Oh, my
india is just selling itself out to the west, they are sayin "hey are just like you" a bunch of mindless sheep.
Remember, all that has changed is that a few hundred thousand people are safe from being arrested in their own bedrooms - its not being made compulsory.
If anyone want a real laugh - and I mean a REAL laugh - see what Pat Condell has to say about the Burqua:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkxlzTZ
why are you ashmed to be gay yet boast about it on here, lol
battyboy
Your hatred is so raw that I pity you. And in my experience people usually hate what they fear.
You see India as trying to appease the West by making homosexuality legal. How about they have just seen the inhumanity of making it illegal?
Watch ALL of his videos, several times :o)
And welcome to the 21st century!
Can you walk and breath at the same time?
India has already been groomed as an ally of Isis-Ra-El (that is the country owned and underwritten by the Rothschilds ... it even carries his symbol on its 'national' flag) so Indians must be obliged to play the same games that have already destroyed indigenous culture and morality in Britain, America, and most of Europe.
There was a large Gay Pride carnival held in Tel Aviv's streets only a few weeks ago.
I see London's Gay Pride carnival is being held (today) on 4th July this year: American Independence Day. Any coincidence? A calculated insult?
Don't you think it's time to wake up and see what is being done in the name of so-called free expression and 'tolerance?' How many of you Sheeple are capable of joining up more than 3 dots?
Diagnosis: Learning difficulties, cognitive deficits (low IQ?); sheltered upbringing; possible religious/political indoctrination; repressed homosexuality?
Prognosis: Continued worsening of condition without treatment.
Suggested treatment: Remedial education; exposure to different people, cultures and lifestyles; deprogramming of religious/political indoctrination (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy?); should also get a girlfriend/boyfriend.
You know, I couldn't begin to properly answer your comment as it is so bizarre I am forced to ask what kind of society produces a person like you?
Trying to psychologically diagnose those whose views make you uncomfortable (because of your ignorance) is a Communist tactic. It was used extensively by Stalin. Furthermore, dodging the issues and refusing to address them rationally isn't going to save your neck.
What I will do with your comment, however, is keep your response filed in order to show others, in particular people who are living outside of the Anglo-sphere and Europe. I'd be interested to learn of their prognosis.
Of course, I shall be showing them my initial comment to which you replied. I do expect they will come to a similar conclusion to mine; that you have lived through your adolescence and early adulthood in a very sick, morally corrupt, and highly politicised environment. I am sorry for that, but you've made your bed, and now you shall have to lie in it.
Can't say I and others like me didn't warn you.
Nope, I am actually an *employed* graduate (0 points). My degree was in mathematics and theoretical physics (0 points), though I have studied psychology in the past. But it doesn't take someone with a degree in psychology to diagnose conditions like yours; a first-year psychology undergrad could pin you down in five seconds, I reckon.
So that's 0 out of 2, sorry...
"You know, I couldn't begin to properly answer your comment as it is so bizarre I am forced to ask what kind of society produces a person like you?"
Hahaha - I could say exactly the same thing about your previous post; 'bizarre' would sum it up nicely. And I think I know what kind of scoiety produces people like you...
"Trying to psychologically diagnose those whose views make you uncomfortable (because of your ignorance) is a Communist tactic. It was used extensively by Stalin. Furthermore, dodging the issues and refusing to address them rationally isn't going to save your neck."
And trying to demonize those whose sexuality makes you uncomfortable (because of your ignorance) is also a Communist tactic, as well as a Nazi one, a Catholic one, a Protestant one, an Islamic one, etc. - choose your ideology; everyone loves to pick on gays, don't they?! They are such an easy target for ignorant bigots looking for scapegoats and bogeymen.
"Furthermore, dodging the issues and refusing to address them rationally isn't going to save your neck"
Again - ditto your previous remarks. What exactly was 'rational' about *them*?
"What I will do with your comment, however, is keep your response filed in order to show others, in particular people who are living outside of the Anglo-sphere and Europe. I'd be interested to learn of their prognosis."
Oooooh - I'm sooooo scared! ;o)
"Of course, I shall be showing them my initial comment to which you replied."
I wouldn't - they might form the same opinion of you that I did (unless all of these people are as delusional, bigoted and out-of-touch with reality as you are).
"you have lived through your adolescence and early adulthood in a very sick, morally corrupt, and highly politicised environment."
Funny, that - I had formed the same impression about you.
Incidentally, I am no longer in my 'early adulthood'. But, judging from the immaturity of your writing alone, one might suspect that you still are...
I think I can conclude from the tone of your response to my diagnosis that I got it pretty much spot on - and you know it. But, as I said, it wasn't difficult; people like you are a walking stereotype - anti-Communist, anti-Semitic, anti-gay. What do you do in your spare time - dress up in Nazi uniforms, play war games in the woods and plot the overthrow of the pinko-Commie-Jew-loving government? Hahaha...
I possess a higher degree which trumps, I believe, yours. I shan't bother to detail its subject matter, suffice to say it was in real (hard) science.
If I am "out of touch" then I am happy to be so. The false reality that has dominated Britain since the 1960s was always going to ruin the country. Many wise men (and just a few wise women) tried to warn the public but the mass media drowned out their message with crass garbage.
I shall try to avoid casting aspersions on your mentality, as it will only give you an excuse to come back swinging your handbag again.
What I would say is that your whole world view has been totally shaped by the Holocaust narrative and the Holocaustianity religion that has held sway in the West since the Six Day War of 1967. I pity you. Whatever you suffer you will thoroughly deserve.
Everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi. The word 'Nazi' actually means German in Hebrew. Hence, an Ashkenazi is a German-Jew of Asiatic/Mongol lineage. So, how can I be a Nazi? And, I do wonder why people like you think you can continue with this childish demonization of the German people. If you are of Anglo-Saxon, Viking, Norman, or Celtic stock then the Germans are your racial cousins. You want to be manipulated into committing fratricide yet again?
You completely misrepresent my views of Homosexuals, as all Communists are inclined to do (because you are inveterate liars). I hold no animosity whatsoever towards homosexuals. But I do pity them; for to forego the love of a woman's body is surely the greatest loss. Ninety percent of Homosexuals are the way they are because of a failure of parenting and/or a failure of society. Sick and directionless societies produce more homosexuals.
In response to your silly gibe: I would say that male homosexuality actually makes 90% of the world's population feel uncomfortable. If it doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then perhaps you have already watched too many homosexual pornographic DVDs? If the idea of two males cavorting gives you an erection then you should be honest enough to admit so.
I only reserve animosity for those who are deliberately seeking to spread homosexuality by promoting it as a third sex, or alternative lifestyle. These are the same people who are introducing homosexual behaviour to children as young as 6 years, via utterly obscene changes to primary school curricula. Nobody should show any mercy to such people. They are the scum of the earth.
Anti-Semitic? No, I harbour no hostility towards the Palestinians? Why did you suggest otherwise?
Anti-Communist? Surely I am, as everyone else with any sense should be. Communism was directly responsible for the deaths of over 80-million people during the 20th century ... many of whom were political prisoners until they were shot in the back of the head (over a pit) or starved to death (Holodomor). The unprovoked genocide of Polish Officers in 1939 in the forests of Katin was actually carried out by the Soviets (mostly Jewish members of their secret police, NKVD). The poison of Communism can be measured by the fact that the German people where falsely and unjustly tarred with the accusation of committing that atrocity by Soviet propaganda, and fools like you believed it. You can't even give the Germans credit for exposing this massacre, as they did in 1943. You probably still stubbornly believe the anti-German smears, despite the fact this lie has recently been totally and utterly disproven.
I don't know what having a degree in mathematics and theoretical physics proves that is relevant to the issues under discussion. In your case, it is clear you still have a long ways to go before you reach emotional maturity and intellectual wisdom.
No need to reply ... you have offered absolutely nothing to the debate except for ad-hominem. It would appear you are little more than a sad example of the bankruptcy of a highly politicised (i.e., communist) British university education.
There is no harder science than mathematics and theoretical physics. There have actually been academic surveys which prove this. And so a first degree in these subjects can be worth as much as a higher degree, or even a PhD, in most other subjects. And what precisely was your oh-so-hard 'science' degree in? If you continue to be coy on the matter, I will draw my own conclusions...
"What I would say is that your whole world view has been totally shaped by the Holocaust narrative and the Holocaustianity religion that has held sway in the West since the Six Day War of 1967. I pity you. Whatever you suffer you will thoroughly deserve."
More anti-Jewish paranoia. You really should seek treatment for that...
"Everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi. The word 'Nazi' actually means German in Hebrew."
No it doesn't, you cretin (higher degree?); it is a contraction of 'NAtionalsoZIalist(ische)', the German word for 'national', from the full name of the Nazi party, 'Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei' (the National Socialist German Workers' Party).
"I do wonder why people like you think you can continue with this childish demonization of the German people."
I don't. I happen to like German people, and people of Germaic origin. My best friend is from Austria, in fact. I just don't happen to like Nazis, whether past or present, for what I believe are very good reasons. I also know that the vast majority of modern Germans are not Nazis, and that it would be crass to stereotype them as such.
"If you are of Anglo-Saxon, Viking, Norman, or Celtic stock then the Germans are your racial cousins. You want to be manipulated into committing fratricide yet again?"
'Racial cousins'? Ooh dear, you are beginning to sound like an Aryan supremacist...Or maybe you're just overly fond of Wagner's teutonic operas (not really my cup of tea, I must say, though there are a few good tunes).
"You completely misrepresent my views of Homosexuals, as all Communists are inclined to do (because you are inveterate liars)."
And you completely misrepresent my political allegiances, because I am not a Communist - I hate Communism as much as I hate Fascism and Nazism, and for similar reasons. I have always found that it is best not to ally myself with any particular political ideology, and to remain independent-minded on all political matters, because, in my experience, most political ideologies are dangerous, and most political ideologues are idiots.
"I hold no animosity whatsoever towards homosexuals. But I do pity them; for to forego the love of a woman's body is surely the greatest loss."
But a homosexual could say the same thing - to forego the love of a *man's* body (and the man himself - let's not objectify, eh?) is also a great loss. You don't know what you're missing if you've never tried it, do you? :o) And 50% of the human race (at least) happen to think that the love of men and their bodies is not only perfectly okay, but the best thing in the world! Ask any straight woman! Are they all deluded, or perverts?
(cont)
"Ninety percent of Homosexuals are the way they are because of a failure of parenting and/or a failure of society. Sick and directionless societies produce more homosexuals."
B*U*L*LS*H*I*T! You clearly don't know the first thing about the biological origins and determinants of human sexuality, or its innate complexity. You should try reading The Kinsey Report on Male Sexuality. An old book, but still a classic. It would open your eyes in more ways than one, I suspect...
"In response to your silly gibe: I would say that male homosexuality actually makes 90% of the world's population feel uncomfortable. If it doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then perhaps you have already watched too many homosexual pornographic DVDs? If the idea of two males cavorting gives you an erection then you should be honest enough to admit so."
As I said, don't knock it till you've tried it. Sexual attraction and arousal are very subjective things, and just because you don't understand homoeroticism doesn't mean it's perverted or wrong.
FYI, a lot of *straight women* prefer watching gay porn to straight porn, because the guys are usually much younger, fitter, more athletic, more handsome, and more sensual than the middle-aged, hairy-backed, pot-bellied *munters* typically employed by straight porn companies (for reasons best known to themselves, but one suspects that three of them are (a) they wouldn't know an attractive guy if they saw one, (b) they don't want to make insecure straight male viewers feel inadequate - which they certainly would do alongside your typical gay porn actor, and (c) they actually believe, in their masculine arrogance, that woman find *all* men irrestibly attractive, regardless of how hideous they actually are). That and the fact that gay guys are widely believed, by straight women, gay men and porn producers, to be just better sexual performers all-round.
Oh, and as has been proved by scientific research, gay guys have bigger d*cks than straight guys, on average, too, haha! Feeling inferior yet? :o)
"I only reserve animosity for those who are deliberately seeking to spread homosexuality by promoting it as a third sex, or alternative lifestyle. These are the same people who are introducing homosexual behaviour to children as young as 6 years,"
Nonsense! But even if they did, perhaps it wouldn't be a bad thing if it meant that those children didn't turn into nasty, vicious homophobes when they grew up, and that those children who were themselves gay were accepted by their peers and grew up comfortable with their sexuality, rather than suffering homophobic bullying and committing suicide in their teens out of alienation and despair! Or perhaps you would prefer that - a 'Final Solution' to the 'gay problem', eh?
"I don't know what having a degree in mathematics and theoretical physics proves that is relevant to the issues under discussion. In your case, it is clear you still have a long ways to go before you reach emotional maturity and intellectual wisdom."
I was merely responding to your insinuation that I had a degree in psychology. And as to which one of us is the more emotionally mature and intellectually wise, I will let our respective words speak for themselves.
And with that, I'm afraid I must dash now - I have a Mensa social function to attend :o)
A good decision from the judiciary.
Greater change to alleviate discrimination now. And hopefully over time change the pitiful ignorance such as the comments made by studentclass that has been posted here.