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Girls targeted in 'Taliban gas attack'

Militants blamed after 90 pupils poisoned in third attack on girls' school in three weeks

By Jerome Starkey in Kabul

Farzana, eight, recovers in hospital after she fell sick during a third apparent poison attack on a girls' school

AP

Farzana, eight, recovers in hospital after she fell sick during a third apparent poison attack on a girls' school

The pupils were lining up outside their classrooms for morning assembly when one girl suddenly collapsed unconscious. "She was only little," said Gulcheena, a 13-year-old student of the school who fell ill herself moments later.

They were among 90 Afghan school girls rushed to hospital yesterday unconscious and vomiting, possibly victims of a gas poisoning attack on their school in Mahmud Raqi village.

"The teachers picked her up and carried her to the school office," Gulcheena said. "We went into our class and the teacher was calling the roll call when suddenly she told us to go outside."

Of the 90 girls from the Qazaam school admitted to hospital, at least five slipped briefly into comas, officials in Kapisa province, north-east of the capital, said. Six teachers and at least two other staff were also admitted.

One of the teachers, Zakira, collapsed in front of her students. The headmistress, Mossena, said there was a strange odour which engulfed the courtyard as girls began retching uncontrollably. Medics said most of the victims were between eight and 12 years old.

It was the third such attack against a girls' school in Afghanistan in as many weeks, raising fears that the Taliban are resorting to increasingly vicious methods to terrorise young women out of education. Police officials blamed Taliban sympathisers but the insurgents' spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid denied any involvement. "Harming children is not the work of holy warriors," he said. "We absolutely reject this."

Gulcheena described the gas smelling like a chemical known locally as Mallatin, which farmers sometimes spread on fields to poison foraging birds. The provincial police chief, Matiullah Safi, said none of the students, teachers or support staff had seen anything suspicious. "It looks like something was sprayed in the school but so far no one has been arrested," he said. "There's no proof, at the moment, that this was an attack."

But the alleged poisoning comes just days after girls at a school in nearby Charikar, on the road north of Kabul, complained of similar symptoms.

Last November, men on motorbikes used water pistols to squirt acid in girls' faces as they walked to school on the outskirts of Kandahar. More than a dozen girls and several teachers at the Mirwais School for Girls had the acid thrown in their faces and one was so badly disfigured she had to go abroad for treatment. The attacks caused such distress and fear that many parents kept their girls at home for several weeks but most have since returned to school, vowing not to be intimidated.

The Taliban denied involvement in the acid attacks too but police claimed the men were paid by insurgents hired by rogue elements within the Pakistani intelligence agency. President Hamid Karzai, seemingly intent on avoiding any confrontation with Pakistan over the matter, subsequently denied there had been any Pakistani involvement.

Women's education was banned under the Taliban, and girls' schools are routinely torched or closed in areas where the insurgents hold sway. Prior to the acid attacks, the Taliban had strengthened their grip in the Mirwais area and other districts close to Kandahar and posters had started appearing warning local people not to let their daughters go to school.

Large parts of Kapisa are now under the control of men loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a warlord once bankrolled by the US who is now in talks with the Afghan government of President Karzai. Parwan province, where the two previous gas attacks took place, is widely considered to be one of the safest places in Afghanistan.

Speaking from her hospital bed, Gulcheena said she collapsed moments after rushing outside. "The teachers splashed water on my face, but when I opened my eyes the next thing I knew, I was in hospital." Seayahmuy, a 15-year-old student in her final year at the school, said doctors had ordered her to stay in overnight. She said she did not remember a strange smell, nor did she see any gas. Dr Abdul Mateen said most of the patients were suffering from vomiting, nausea and dizziness. "We don't have the equipment here to do a full diagnosis," Dr Mateen said. Blood samples were being sent for analysis to the US base at Bagram.

The Taliban have shown themselves capable of increasingly complex attacks and Nato accused them this week of using white phosphorus. But they are not thought to have used gas as a weapon in recent years.

One girl, Leda, 12, said from her hospital bed: "We were very weak, sick and dizzy. When I opened my eyes we were in hospital. I am so sad, what went wrong with our school? I want to study."

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Attacking women and girls in Afghanistan
[info]hpicot wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:45 am (UTC)
It is time for the people of Afghanistan need to stand up to the attacks on women and girls. It will become impossible for the US and UK to make an investment in a country that does not protect its children. Foreign aid is always scarce and those nations that can put it to the best use should be favored.
Re: Attacking women and girls in Afghanistan
[info]willnotbudge wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 06:15 am (UTC)
What to do when there is a cultural mentality of not allowing females to have a decent education, and that an educated female is some sort of attack on their culture. I am not suggesting that all of Afghanistan is anti female education but the Teleban can't survivie in isolation hence there must be considerable support for their cause and policies.
Re: Attacking women and girls in Afghanistan - [info]freedommonger - Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 07:00 am (UTC) Expand
Where's the Muslim Outcry?
[info]edmund03 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 06:38 am (UTC)
As usual the Muslim community remains deafeningly silent as their "fellow brothers" pour acid into the eyes of young girls - perhaps they have been non-plussed by the heroic deeds of their medieval warriors. Had a stray bomb from an US airplane inflicted similar injuries on a similarly helpless victim then doubtless these pages would have been inundated with outraged missives, threatening death and damnation to the evil enemy. But apparently when fellow Muslims deliberately blind young girls seeking to assert their universal rights and gain a better life this does not merit opprobrium. Such hypocrisy defies belief.
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry?
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:45 am (UTC)
Yep. The silence is DEAFENING, isn't it. Where are the protests? The chants? The signage? Nothing. Oh and before these oh-so-trendy lefties that post on the site start to accuse me of being a member of the BNP - I AM NOT -OK!
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]zahradelaplata - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:14 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]richardm30 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:24 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]dryandra - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]edmund03 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]aljawadn - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]richardm30 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:19 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]zahradelaplata - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:06 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]freeethinker - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]edmund03 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]edmund03 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:37 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:55 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]edmund03 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:18 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 05:15 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where's the Muslim Outcry? - [info]aljawadn - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:00 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]peersrogue wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 07:11 am (UTC)
Very sad and really what future can there be for a country and people who do not protect their chirldren? Be they girls or boys. I await an outcry from Muslims in the UK. When will enough be enough?

[info]goatbucket wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:30 pm (UTC)
Why does it have anything to do with religion? The U.K. has a huge number of children in poverty. Child pornography has lots of adherents in the western world - and they can travel to various countries to indulge in their vices.

The problem isn't any one relgion, it's human society as a whole.
Edmund, right on! Where's the Muslim's protests on the streets against this continous injustice?!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 07:23 am (UTC)
You won't see it Edmund! Because, the majority of Muslims have been brainwashed to regard themselves as part of a homogenous, Arab-centric/led one and absolute community of the "Ummah" i.e Islamic Empire! (thus why the homogenous primitive Arab veil/"honour ideology" is imposed on women/girls). The primitive and dark-age Islamist fascists will keep on winning the majority of ordinary Muslim believers unthinking brains and blind their eyes with irrational hatred for the so-called "evil" Christian/Atheist West and Jews, who supposedly want to destroy this dark-age Empire. That will result in the forever unequal and unfree women/girls, gays, non-Islamic communities, converts/apostates and so on in Islam, being liberated ultimately. However, that Karzai should be replaced, such a deceitful hypocrite, making unjust deals even with monsterous flesh-ripping, barbaric torture-loving Taleban/Islamist warlords! All these stupid and primitive Islamist men seem only interested in money and power! And then they will lie through their teeth, to say "it's God's Commandment"!!
Re: Edmund, right on! Where's the Muslim's protests on the streets against this continous injustice?
[info]chrisp666 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 07:54 am (UTC)
Hear hear! Well done for having the guts to say what most people think, but what our pathetic 'leaders' are afraid to say, lest they upset some mediaeval cleric.
Re: Member of the BNP!? - [info]rmcbride05 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:30 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Member of the BNP!? - [info]lexyboy - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:39 am (UTC) Expand
f****d up.
[info]freeethinker wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:01 am (UTC)


another f****d up religion leading to f****d up people.

no real progress can be made until these people kick their primitive religion into touch.
will that happen? 'fraid not!

they are destined to suffer at the hands of the religious nutters for ever.

it's their own fault, it could be said!
Fatwa & Jihad
[info]had_it wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:06 am (UTC)
We need a Fatwa and a Jihad against these anti-Islamic and anti-female fanatics. It is the duty of all Muslims to rid the world of these stains on humanity, by incarcertion first and then by conversion to true Islam, if possible.
Re: Fatwa & Jihad
[info]manplant wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:36 am (UTC)
Won't happen because the countries where these attrocities are occuring are controlled and ruled by the US / UK indirectly. Any uprising against their rulers would be seen as hostile to US and UK foreign policy interest. Remember who backed the Taliban. Saudi money, US and Pakistani intelligence.
In Iran where there was one case of acid thrown into a girl's face, the culprit has been sentenced to having the same done to him due to the victim's insistence.
These types of attrocities tend to occur in lawless countries / areas with valuable natural resources such as oil / drugs etc. It is basically a grab for power in order to control these resources and the people behind these attrocities are the same ones who want to control these countries. Compare to the killing of the indiginous Amazonian Indians in Brazil by logging companies. The state knows what is going on but turns a blind eye. Same formulae, natural wealth and weak people without a voice.
[info]rmcbride05 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:37 am (UTC)
I think the outcry against Islam on this page is laughable. You single minded bigotry is lamentable in this day and age. People in the UK should know that just because the people in charge do something it does not mean it has popular support. British politics is a joke, full of corrupt money grabbing idiots. But
Comments are a farce
[info]rmcbride05 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:39 am (UTC)
I think the outcry against Islam on this page is laughable, as it always is. Such single minded bigotry is lamentable in this day and age. People in the UK should know that just because the people in charge do something it does not mean it has popular support. British politics is a joke, full of corrupt money grabbing idiots. But then in actual fact that is a true representation of the British public I suppose.
Re: Comments are a farce
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:27 am (UTC)
It's no use slamming others down for their bigotry and then making bigoted statements yourself. You just undermind your own argument. Whilst there is some truth in what you say about the World Economic System, and certainly truth in what you say about the corruption in British politics, none of that changes the acts of pure, unmitigated evil of the Taliban's attacks on women and female children. One doesn't cancel out the other. Nor does wrong doing in one part of the world justify or annul wrong doing in another part.

We cannot ignore these terrible acts just because others, elsewhere, also carry out terrible acts. The men that carry out these acts are, to say the best of them, primitive, to say the worst of them they are depraved, and also corrupted in their thinking.

Fundamental religions are the scourge of the planet.
Re: Comments are a farce - [info]richardm30 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:12 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Comments are a farce - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Space Age vs Stone Age
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:40 am (UTC)
High up above our heads men and women in orbit are repairing the Hubble space telescope. They are doing this so that we can study the Universe and gain knowledge about mankind's place in the Cosmos. They were launched into orbit by the US space agency NASA with advanced technology and a re-useable spacecraft using orbital equations invented 300 years ago by an Englishman. These same countries (the US and Europe) have used their technology to send probes to explore every corner of the solar system and even, now, interstellar space. We can predict the arrival of these spacecraft, after months or years of travel, at distant planets to the nearest SECOND! On earth they have used their technology to advance medical, social and economic science to the benefit of all mankind.

Kilometres below these astronauts are groups of bearded men in caves and huts (The Taliban) who spend the greater part of each day with their arses pointing towards the astronauts chanting jibberish to an imaginery fairy (their beloved Allah) in the sky. When they are not praying they are using their stone-age minds and technology to fire missiles and rocket-propelled grenades into schools that are teaching girls. When they tire of this they throw acid into the faces of young women and now, use poison gas against them. Their minds, full of religion and Hate, are jealous of the many accomplishments of the West and our technological and economic superiority. Instead of trying to improve mankind they prefer to destroy what the cannot have or achieve for themselves.

So we have a choice - a very stark choice. We can either let these hateful, deluded religious nuts take over and instill their despicable caveman ideology into the rest of us or we can fight them. The enlightenment is at stake - it is as simple as that. We are fighting the Taliban as much as we can whilst trying to minimize injuries and deaths of innocent people (i.e. the women and children the Taliban use as Human Shields). Many of the posts on this site are by trendy lefties (in their homes in Hampstead and Islington) who, like Orwellian Sheep, continually bleat and whinge when we launch attacks against the Taliban and in the process ACCIDENTALLY kill innocent people. Before you can say "allah akbar" they start to flagellate themselves in protest at these deaths. So let's start defending our freedom and pay less attention (or none at all!) to the bleating lefties and demented islamists who seem to frequent this site! Let us start properly prosecuting the war with the Taliban (and abolishing all Madrasses in Pakistan) - before it's too late!
Re: Space Age vs Stone Age
[info]freeethinker wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:08 am (UTC)
well said and i agree completely.
Re: Space Age vs Stone Age - [info]lexyboy - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:48 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Space Age vs Stone Age - [info]richardm30 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:55 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Space Age vs Stone Age - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:06 pm (UTC) Expand
some context
[info]googie56 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
the level of understanding about Islam and world history on this page is very disappointing. you ask for Muslim protest? the very act of sending the girls to school in the first place required huge courage on the part of the families of these girls. this because of the level of misogyny engendered by the taliban--once sponsored and propped up by the West, let's not forget. sometimes we construct our own monsters.
Re: some context
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:50 am (UTC)
Yes the parents of these girls DO have courage to send them to school. But I think what people are talking about here is the SILENCE in the UK and other European regarding these attacks. Muslims can so easily develop hurt feelings when it suits them (just look at the stink regarding those silly cartoons). I think what people are wondering is where is the MULSIM hurt NOW - i.e. the MUSLIMS in the UK and Europe? Surely, they should have at least ONE (just ONE, surely) in protest on behalf of these poor girls and against the Taliban. I guess this crime just does not matter to them - sorry but I guess that is the only conclusion we can reach given the available evidence.
[info]pubpug wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC)
We as a Muslim 'community' are badly divided on many issues, but the majority that I know of are appalled by the Taliban and these kinds of acts. Pakistanis, and British-pakistanis are fearful of what the Taliban are doing and attempting to do in Pakistan today. Moderate Clerics in Pakistan are now making their voices heard apparently, as 800,000 people have been forced to leave the North West, and thousands of civilians (and a couple of hundred taliban) have been killed in fighting in that province.

Perhaps Pakistan will save itself (though I somehow doubt that, certainly doubt a 100% success), perhaps Afghanistan will save itself, perhaps Muslims of the world will unite to expel the Taliban, perhaps citizens of the world will unite to do so. The majority of people of Afghanistan are the true victims of terrorism.

I do denounce the Taliban, often, in daily life. I have two daughters who are and will continue to be educated and supported to fulfil their ambitions, and I hope, achieve happiness.

If I were to take to the streets with a placard it would be nice that I'd be seen to be 'not like that lot of nutters' and totally disapproving...but what would it achieve? Who would I be proving myself to, who would I be apologising for, and what would it change? It wouldn;t scare the Taliban off, and it might just give the US and possibly Europe a little more strength to go and bomb the crap out of Pakistan. Perhaps it's cowardly, but I feel I achieve more in my daily life, and the way I live amongst the Muslim and non-Muslim community, in denouncing the Taliban and waht they stand for than I would if I waved a banner.
THANK YOU
[info]aljawadn wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:24 pm (UTC)
I wanted to THANK YOU for relaying what the majority of Muslims think and feel. So many want to see us as barbarians when it is a mistake to do so. Generalizing helps no one.
Only an allegation
[info]philipshahak wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:29 am (UTC)
These attacks have not been confirmed as "gas attacks by the Taliban". They could equally be the work of you know who...
attacking children??!!......
[info]vhawk1951 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:36 am (UTC)
.. of any sex is despicable, how can anyone possibly justify hurting little children?
Re: attacking children??!!......
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:32 pm (UTC)
Easy! Because God told them.
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Re: attacking children??!!...... - [info]richardm30 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:34 pm (UTC) Expand
No Fatalities - HOW SUSPICIOUS!
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:52 am (UTC)
THIS STINKS OF YET ANOUTHER PROPAGANDA EXERCISE TO DEMONISE THE TALIBAN!. Probably a harmless smoke greade with a bit of insectorcide mixed in to "terrorize" the afgan population using divide and conquor tactics. It does not matter how many times the neocons repeat the propaganda that the taliban are against educating girls it will still never be true. Why dont you tell the people the real truth about the taliban position which is that girls are only restricted in education when they have children of family responcibilities to attend to as the first priority. (Duties that should ethicaly come before a persons self interests). Children have the right to have a full time carer too!. So Do Elderly Relatives who are sick and dont have a state NHS hospital to rely on etc!. Look at the way families have been broken up by the persuit of the selfish individuals intrests in the west. We could do very well learning some family values from the muslim culture. So please stop ignoring these cultral differences as if they dont exist and tell people the truth instead of feeding them constant lies and biggotry.
Re: No Fatalities - HOW SUSPICIOUS!
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
Now we have heard it all! A Taliban apologist. Whatever next? Osama bin Laden is really everyone favourite uncle? How can you expect anyone to take you seriously? What utter and complete tripe! How about raising funds to help the Taliban - just in case they run out of gas! What an absolutely unbelievable - and reprehensible - post by copycat7. I wonder if we will get some moderate Muslims that we keep hearing about replying to this disgusting post by copycat7? Anyone??? Anyone at all ????????? Hello, Hello, testing, testing 123........are you there?????.......
Re: No Fatalities - HOW SUSPICIOUS! - [info]goatbucket - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: No Fatalities - HOW SUSPICIOUS! - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 05:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: No Fatalities - HOW SUSPICIOUS! - [info]andrea_2 - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:44 pm (UTC) Expand
Space age vs stone age
[info]shellibean1 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:05 pm (UTC)
Well said Richardm30 - absolutely agree

recommended reading list for those interested in getting a grip on reality
The god Delusion - Richard Dawkins
The end of Faith - Sam Harris
Re: Space age vs stone age
[info]richardm30 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:27 pm (UTC)
Oh, you forgot "God is not great: How religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens.

Kind regards, Richard
Whose country is Afghanistan, Muslims?
[info]famulla wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:31 pm (UTC)
The Taliban and these kinds of acts as a Muslim ?community? is badly divided on many issues, but the majority that I know of appall us. Pakistanis and British-Pakistanis are fearful of what the Taliban are doing and attempting to do in Pakistan today. Moderate Clerics in Pakistan are now making their voices heard apparently, as 800,000 people have been forced to leave the North West, and thousands of civilians (and a couple of hundred Taliban) , You are saying couple???have been killed in fighting in that province.
Let us look at this in different light. No one divides the Muslims. This was since he Sunnis and Shias were divided in the times of Prophet Mohammed and at that time, we had no Taliban, USA, or UK.
All the stated countries are new. The methods used are modern. We had no jest or bombs from Chemical Ali. Pakistan and Afghanistan live, I mean practically live, on the cash given to them by America/?
Where does the Muslim come into these? Talban appalls you. Why? They kill. They will, as they want to live there.
Whose country is Afghanistan, Muslims?
I think you better read the history and see the map in the Google.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
[info]santarosa_vic_c wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
I still wonder if it is really the Talibans who did this. I am very skeptical. Everybody knows how sensitive the Westeners are when it comes to the conditions of women under the Talibans. Usually westeners don't react to Muslim victims. these victims are just regrettable. But when it comes to women killed by these religious fanatics the outrage is immense. Bombings from the Americans and British -and Israelis - killing thousands of muslim women and children are always legitimate. Our leaders know the difference we make and their strategy is also to manipulate the opinion to justify their war. Who really knows who is doing what and how in AFPAK.
Taliban are illiterates financed and supported by certain Western Interests.
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:01 pm (UTC)
It is well known that the Taliban are a bunch of ragtag illiterates who are financed and supported by certain Western interests eager to misrepresent Islam.

And of course the "Red Tops" just love the Taliban and their crackpot lunatic Mullahs; they help strike a most fearsome terror up the proverbial of your average "mortgage slave" imprisoned in their "middle England living rooms".
female oppression
[info]kayfeminist wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:14 pm (UTC)
These 'men' are unspeakable,brutish neanderthals! What kinds of fearful egos can behave in this way and show such terror of an educated adult female or child? They deserve to be left in a solely male society where their no doubt homosexual practice and the absence of women would eventually wipe them all out.Bring it on! Women should be helped to leave the country much like other persecuted people were during the wars.
Muslim rule
[info]lasvegasrich wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:59 pm (UTC)
Why would anyone be surprised at the gassing if school girls in a Muslim country. In many Muslim nations, women cannot leave their homes without the permission of a male relative, and then must be covered from head to toe, in addition their not alllowed to drive. I read an account by a female doctor. I think she was a Saudi. She needed her son's permission to go to her clinic, and had to rely on a male chaffeur to drive her. Given these restrictons, it folllows that females don't need an education. These fanatics want to go back to the time of Mohammed.
Re: Muslim rule
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 05:19 pm (UTC)
And who are you to decide if the cultural values of other cultures are valid or not?. Did it ever occur to you that it is not just muslim societies that still believe in a traditional male female roled philosophy? It is in fact the majority of people living on this planet who believe in a traditional viewpoint. Are you aware that this culture was also the norm for thousands of years in the uk until only about 100 years ago?. Are you even aware of the philisophical thinking behind these values? Do you believe children have a right to a full time carer before the mother has a right to neglect her children and go to college?. Did you ever stop to be open minded full stop?
Re: Muslim rule - [info]adampooler - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 06:38 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Muslim rule - [info]freedommonger - Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 07:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Muslim rule - [info]aljawadn - Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:07 pm (UTC) Expand
Such a sad story, but you know what?
[info]ihateutoo wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)
You'll never catch the likes of Robert Fisk within a mile of a story like this will ya?
Re: Such a sad story, but you know what?
[info]goatbucket wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 05:03 pm (UTC)
Nah - he constantly critiques all manner of radical Islamists, so he obviously doesn't feel the need to be involved here as well.
Re: Such a sad story, but you know what? - [info]freedommonger - Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 07:02 am (UTC) Expand
If anyone's a twat
[info]chrisp666 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:37 pm (UTC)
It's you, pal. Try to find out when Germans really send their children to school. Find out how often the Germans throw acid in the face of schoolgirls. Oh, and learn to spell. It's people like you that make liberals like me fee that being racist isn't a bad idea.
Re: If anyone's a twat
[info]freedommonger wrote:
Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 02:13 pm (UTC)
dont make this an excuse to hate on the basis of race, use this as a reason to fight the (minority) of individuals of any race or religion who are evil on the scale that we all carry in ourselves, regardless of race or creed.

Denying women education and throwing acid in the face of your girls is not hard to place on that scale. Thats why most Pakistanis are agin the Taliban, as are most people of any race or creed and their army why the Pakistan army is at last fighting them all out with majority support of the Pakistani people.

You could ask why it has taken so long for them to act. The answer is in the modern disconnect from reality that the mentalists of the Indy is such a key part of. In pakistan some surveys show a majority believe 911 was a false flag attack perpetrated by Israel or the US on itself!!!! Like say in the UK some people believe that the USA went to Iraq to steal/control oil despite the inconvenient observable reality that they havent.

It is these disconnects that kill. Its acknowledging reality that keeps us free. Pakistanis just acknowledged reality

Perhaps the Taliban can invade old Europe next? I cant think of anyone who give a flying f if they did (at least no one who can fight them anyway)
Taleban cowards
[info]bogbrush2 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 08:57 pm (UTC)
If these "holy warriors" have to protect their religion by squirting acid in the faces of girls trying to educate themselves, then give me devil-worship anytime. You wouldn't catch the big horny fella doing this, or dressing up in woman's clothes and scuttling off after committing some crime against humanity. Hitler was bad, and bad enough to motivate a generation to want to join up to help wiping him off the face of the earth. This lot want to watch it.
'Gas' in girl's shcools
[info]bertzpoet wrote:
Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 06:16 am (UTC)
The pattern of these events strongly suggest mass hysteria, a condition known to psychiatry as Briquet's Syndrome (see Google). It often affects young women in groups like schools, and has been described in many countries. One episode in Palestine was blamed on the Israelis. Typically the forensic tests turn out negative, and all recover.

Norbert Hirschhorn MD

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