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We asked you: Could you really stomach Tony Blair as EU President? These are your responses

Here, we publish all the responses which were sent by e-mail to our letters page. There were more than 100 opposed to Mr Blair becoming EU President, and we have edited these down from approximately 10,000 words in total to less than 4,000 words. We have published all of those who wrote in favour, including one dripping in irony. Our website also received more than 100 responses, splitting in a similar, overwhelming proportion against the former PM

YES

Yes; he's the one man with a backbone in this country. Carol Bridge . There is only one answer ... yes, yes and yes. G Grud .

Of course Tony Blair would be an excellent EU president. The stupidity of rotating the presidency means that Europe is losing its status in global affairs. As one of the largest markets we must ensure that we influence decisions. The growing influence of China and India means that without strong leadership the EU will be sidelined. Tony Blair is known throughout the world and is respected. We do not live in a dictatorship and the decision to got to war was made by the House of Commons. The press in this country failed to comment on the huge sums of money made by Tony Blair's predecessors. We somehow resent Tony Blair for doing the same or making more because he is in demand on the world stage. If the Lisbon Treaty is ratified there will be an EU President. Are we saying that we would rather have another European in the role rather than Tony Blair? I am one of many – that do not make the headlines and who is not anti-war – who would welcome the appointment. Jane Ashby

Is this a possible case of poacher becoming gamekeeper? Few have developed spin and self aggrandisement better – yet escaped the sleaze and corruption allegations levelled at the EU. It may be that Blair's mastery of "realpolitik" and lack of morality make him a very strong candidate. Clive Peaple

Yes Please! Imagine! Britain leads Europe once again, rather than all those nasty, negative headlines about the EU ruling Britain. But failing Tony, then I'd like to see my neighbour's rather plump and loveable cat Raffy as first President of the EU (although as Raffy died in the spring, we would need notice to exhume him and have him tarted up a bit for public office). Pete Stewart

NO

Tony Blair should be brought before the ICC and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity with regard to the invasion of Iraq and complicity in torture renditions. To put such a tarnished figure into office without trial would make a mockery of all that is good about the EU. Dennis Sosnoski

Absolutely not. Wilma Corradi

Blair and Bush should be put on trial for war crimes. They had such indescribable and gutless contempt for democracy as to totally ignore the largest democratic demonstrations in the history of the human race, in order to go ahead with their predetermined and deadly project to impose "democracy" on Iraq. And, of course, the marchers were right. The idea of giving the Teflon parasite any sort of public office is utterly repellent. D Berg

Blair should not be the first president of the European Union, or president ever. His decision to take the UK to war when Iraq posed no threat, his lying over the existence of weapons of mass destruction, his concealment of his commitment to Bush to join the invasion when he pretended to the country that no such decision had been taken are grounds for prosecuting him as a war criminal. He is unfit for any public office, ever. Cynthia Hibbard

For Tony Blair to be president of the EU would be far worse than Paul Wolfowitz, prime architect behind the Iraq war, being head of the World Bank. Jon Waring

He doesn't have the moral authority to be president of the EU because of his involvement in the Iraq war and his support of Bush, and should not be appointed. It will be a black mark on the EU community if it happens. Ken Bradish

Appointing Tony Blair to the position of EU president is, to someone of my generation, like appointing Richard Nixon as head of the UN. On Iraq alone, he is guilty of the most flagrant and disgraceful deceit even for a politician; there is also the incontestable charge that diverting resources to Iraq lost the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan. JT

If any one in Europe has any doubt about the wisdom of appointing Tony Blair, they should look at his record, in particular the situation in March 2003. People in France and Germany will remember that it was Blair who blamed them for deliberately ruining "a peaceful diplomatic settlement in Iraq" [because they refused to support a second resolution at the UN] when as we now know that Blair had already agreed to an invasion, regardless! Even now, it seems incredible that he had such contempt for the truth that he was comfortable blaming others while simultaneously telling us lies about WMD. It's bizarre that he's even considered as a contender for this vitally important job. Steve Parker

I do not want Blair to be president under any circumstances. It would be a travesty of the office. Elizabeth Lawrence

No, the EU doesn't need an opportunist like Mr Blair for its first president. Hanna Bloulos Hanna . No, no, a thousand times no! He's only in it for the money so he can buy more houses – in Belgium. R Platten

Do I think Tony Blair deserves to become the first president of the EU? One word answer: No! Joe White . Blair is a lawyer with scant respect for the law, other than to twist it for his purposes. Why must he continue to be rewarded for his moral bankruptcy that led us into an illegal war? Almost anyone else would be a better candidate than Blair. A Kassi

Mr Blair showed himself to be weak and impressionable in his dealings with America, and totally dishonest in his attitude to the electorate. Cliff Hanley

The UK needs to know the whole truth and nothing but the truth in respect of his decision to go to war. He should face prosecution. Lives have been lost and for what? He is is a criminal and as such should have his ill-gotten gains confiscated. All that Blair can do is swan around the world trying to convince everyone just how great he is. Peter Johnson Grey

No. Peter Bell

In a word: Never. JohDnhm

The answer is No. Jean-Claude Bailet . If I invade a neighbour's property and commit mayhem without even a by your leave, I get taken to court and possibly jailed. The same applies to Mr Blair. Roderic Kyle

Amazingly, even Cherie has virtually said that he deceived us. Why is it that the nationals of some countries are charged with war crimes, and those of countries like the UK and the US can just walk away? Britt Coulthurst

I find it loathsome that Blair should be considered for any office in Europe. He should be brought to trial for his part in launching an illegal war on a defenceless civilian population by lying about the alleged threat from Iraq. jonwoosnam

Only after has has been acquitted or served his sentence, Charles Daniels

No. He has blood on his hands and, with others, should be prosecuted for war crimes. If he does become the first president, it will only further convince me that lies and hypocrisy have absolutely won the day and that we most certainly live in an Orwellian world. Elspeth Corrigan

I, like many, am absolutely against Tony Blair becoming anything apart from an inmate at the European Courts of Justice for war crimes. Matthew O'Connell

The Blair premiership will be scarred by the fateful decision to go to war in Iraq. Beryl Milnes

No, most definitely not. Bill

No, no. Maria Dowbor

Any other candidate is preferable to Tony Blair who is irretrievably marked by shackling himself to George Bush in the war in Iraq. Additionally, his non presence as Middle East peace envoy gives him the worst possible job reference. Dick Banker

Mr Blair should not be EU president. Peter Harris

We must fervently pray that Tony Blair does not become any type of EU leader. He would forever taint the EU in general and the role of its president in particular with the horror that was the Bush/Blair arrogance. Ray Kenna

If Blair were to become the president of the EU, I'll gladly emigrate to the moon. How can any self-respecting, law abiding, moral individual even contemplate such a calamity? As Mr Brierley rightly testified: he has blood on his hands! Wasim Yunus . No, most certainly not. In the days before the invasion of Iraq, as a key member of the UN Security Council, France let it be known that it would veto any request for UN endorsement of an invasion. but Blair and Bush went ahead anyway. The invasion was illegal, and Blair (and Bush) should face charges of having committed war crimes. Ian R Elliott . Totally opposed to this. Eirwen Thomas

If he is appointed, it will finish Brown off completely. FLimited

When I first heard about the possibility of this happening, I believed it to be a cruel joke dreamt up by some political satirist. I could not imagine that somebody with Blair's track record could conceivably put himself forward, or be supported by even the worst cynic, for the post of EU president. B Schoer

Does Tony Blair deserve the EU presidency? Emphatically no. His dishonesty over the Iraq invasion ruined what little reputation this country had left. His cavalier disregard for Parliament, and indeed his own cabinet, ruined what little we had left of democracy. And his tying the UK's interests so closely to US Middle East policy has not protected us from terrorism. Do I want to see him do all this for Europe? No. And any EU president (if we ever have one) should be voted in by the citizens of Europe, not selected by a self-interested clique of insiders. Lesley Docksey

During the past few weeks, I have looked in vain in the German media and elsewhere for reports of Mr. Blair's impending appointment as the first president of the EU. There are very few and these few are less than enthusiastic or merely state that the British Government promotes or endorses such an appointment. However, there are many more in the EU who believe that Britain is a semi-detached member of the EU, always wanting to dominate or disrupt the running of it and often succeeding. Britain is not even a member of the eurozone and has opted out of various other agreements, notably Schengen, mostly under Mr Blair's leadership. In addition, Mr Blair is seen in Germany as a warmonger – hardly recommendations for a politician to become president of the EU. Mary Robinson, former president of the Irish Republic and former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights would be a worthy candidate to become EU president; much more worthy than any of the other candidates put forward in the media in the UK. Helga Hanson

Tony Blair is a criminal. He should be locked up for war crimes against the Iraqi people (alongside George Bush, Cheney and the like). Peace envoy: hah, EU president: hah. K Badlan . Blair is a war criminal. Jason Collett

No, he deserves to be in the Tower. Ian Allenby

Has the world gone completely mad? Deirdre Cooper

Have you amassed a vast fortune over a few years spent destroying a once great political party? Have you thrown your country's finest into a hellish conflict lately? Do you thoroughly believe God is behind you in all of this? If so, apply now for an exciting new position! "President required. Ability to lead 27 European member-states essential. Salary £247,000 plus benefits." Steve Jao

Absolutely not! He is far too controversial, for one thing. For another, how can we possibly accept an unelected president of Europe who is under suspicion of having started a war under false pretences? Caroline Kennedy

Absolutely no – how can a man who took Britain to war against the wishes of the pople of Britain be trusted with the presidency of the EU? Q Morris

The place for Blair is the Hague. Geoffrey Durrant

He and his current "fool" are responsible for the state of the UK. Can Europe afford to allow a similar decade of lies and deceit to unroll as their foundation to success? DIL3730

Never! He supported Iraq war with that stupid Bush. He belongs to a country which is tepid with the EU and is out of the eurozone. A little coherence in life! Maria Antonietta Di Credico

Absolutely not. If the EU is ever to be a great institution for peace and social justice, then it cannot have a liar in a leading role. Blair is no more than a liar, and his lie has helped to lead to probably hundreds of thousands of deaths and the destruction of Iraq. Devra Wiseman

As a former Labour voter in the pre-Blair years, I do not think that he should be considered for the job of EU president. Mo Bowman

No, he should not be EU president. Peter Harris

If the integrity of the leadership of the EU leads to Blair being elected president I shall abandon many years of support through the Lib Dems and support Ukip. Reg Gale

Tony Blair has become a Catholic. To atone in a small way for all the evil he has done, Tony Blair should give way all his money to the women and girls of Iraq who were forced into prostitution through his invasion of Iraq, to the families in Iraq who lost loved ones, to the families of British soldiers who were killed in Iraq, to those who were wounded or maimed in the fighting, to the families of those who suffered bereavement or injury through terrorism as a direct result of his actions and to the family of Dr David Kelly who was hounded to his death over the Iraq invasion. Blair should then retire to a Christian monastery and live out the remainder of his life in prayer and contemplation over the evil that he has committed. KJR Borthwick

No. I would support Mrs Robinson, the ex-president of Ireland. Chris

Should Blair be president of Europe? No! Who would be preferable? Anybody. Except Hoon, Straw etc. Is there no protest group, no petition or other way of focussing opposition before it is too late? Ed Edmunds

It is outrageous that this man's name should even be considered for such a post. It is also utterly depressing that 34 per cent of those canvassed in the UK should actually support his nomination. One can only hope that the emergence of meaningful opposition to Blair will now burgeon into a movement that will make him totally unacceptable. Brian Denoon

Stop Tony Blair becoming the first president of the EU! There are many reasons (just to mention one, the Iraq war) why I don't like him, but as an Italian who lives and works in the UK, I especially can't forget that he used to be Berlusconi's best buddy (and maybe still is, as far as I know). At a time when Europe is dangerously underestimating the threat posed to democracy by Berlusconi and his government, the choice of Mr Blair would indeed mark a dismal beginning for the EU. Vincenzo Vergiani

No one should become EU president who has not been elected by the people. No one chosen by the "representatives" of member-states will command the respect necessary for such a position. The British Government should not be party to this farce. John Gibbs

No, no, no! He is a liar. He sent troops to Iraq on false pretences. He prevented British Aerospace being sued by the Serious Fraud Office on false pretences, citing "national security". He is one of the greatest hypocrites currently alive. What has he ever done for justice and a better life for people who needed it most when he was in power? Henk Slagter

A very definite No. At the times of both wars, he dissociated himself from other European leaders in favour of the US. P Keogh

How anyone can consider Tony Blair a worthy candidate for the EU presidency is beyond me. He told bare-faced lies during the run-up to the war and betrayed his Labour grassroots supporters by making common cause with the most incompetent, extreme right-wing US administration in living memory. He should be tried for war crimes, along with his buddies George Bush and Dick Cheney. Ernst A Klein

Blair's appointment would not only be an affront to the hundreds of thousands of victims of the Iraq war, it would be an insult to the European project itself. Before becoming prime minister, it appeared that Blair might begin to turn back the tide of British anti-Europeanism that so many of his predecessors, Labour and Conservative, had done nothing to prevent. Instead, he failed to speak up for the benefits of the EU, he vacillated, then buckled over the euro and he allowed the US to dictate UK foreign policy. Even his "ethical arms policy" turned out to be a shambles, as the BAE-Saudi Arabia contracts affair demonstrated. It would be astonishing if continental Europeans were to support his candidacy Simon Sweeney

Shameful! is all I can say. Laurent Du Pasquier

An absolute No. Patrick Howley

Your feature has given me the only option I know of to vote a resounding No to Blair. Thanks for the opportunity to state my democratic non-partisan case. JNC

Tony Blair is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity for the slaughter of an estimated 1.5 million innocent Afghan and Iraqi people, and the deliberate contamination of their lands and people with depleted uranium munitions and devastation of their countries and economies. Tony Blair is not fit to become president of the EU. Philip Dawes

He will drag us into the Third World War. Never, never, never must we allow Tony Blair to become president of the EU. Maggie Milner

I am appalled at the thought of Tony Blair becoming president of the EU. To me it's not a matter of the money, it is a matter of his suitability to be the president. Not only is Britain not a "full" member of the EU by retaining the pound against the euro, but Blair deceived the country over Iraq and had no qualms about "telling stories" on any subject on which he wished to impose his will. He wasn't even honest about his true faith. I trust that the powers that be will see the "real" Mr.Blair for what he is and select someone more worthy of the position. James Harrison

I have been a life-long Labour voter. No more. Blair took this country to war on a pack of lies. It was/is a war of aggression and as such he and the his cabinet responsible for the decision are war criminals. Until they are indicted, I will not vote Labour again. Oh, and the answer to your question? A resounding "No". Dave

The Hon Member for Selly Oak (Clare Short) was correct when she described Blair as a twat. Bill Thompson

No – he is unsuitable to represent Europe, after the deaths and destruction he has caused in the Middle East. It is particularly sad for Irish people after the good work he did in helping bring about peace on our island – if that was his only legacy I would support him. Tina Neylon

I agree with Peter Brierley, whose son died in Iraq, that Blair has "blood on his hands", and regard him as unfit for any public office. Margaret Nelson

The thought of that man becoming EU president just makes my stomach heave. What a thick skinned b------ he must be. An ex-Blair supporter

Blair does not deserve to be an EU President – ever. Angela Merkel's idea seems more appropriate. Steve Kelsey

If there had even been a twitch of a rumour that Tony Blair was being considered, I would have joined Declan Ganley (yes, just that) in voting "No" to it. Stratton Sharpe

The EU has many enemies, doubters and detractors. It is about to appoint a new president who could, if trustworthy, build confidence. The worst person it could choose would be a scoundrel of universal renown. Keep Blair out! Nick Canever

It is vitally important that the first occupant of this post is seen as being a man or woman of uncontested integrity. Until the independent and public inquiry on the Iraq war reports, there should be no question of public office of this sort for Tony Blair, over whom many question marks hang. David Barker

A big No vote from me. Graham Cook

How anyone can seriously suggest that the the great liar could be president of the EU is beyond comprehension. John Ashton

No, I think it would be a total disrespect for integrity and a complete surrender to the superficial political machinations if we were to forget the Blair of Iraq and reward him in this way. Europe cannot disgrace itself in this way. Angela Sands

I can think of no one not currently serving a criminal sentence who is less worthy of becoming president of the EU than Tony Blair. He continues to be an embarrassment to the UK and should not be permitted to hold any public office. Andrew Bryan

As a committed European, I can think of nothing worse for the EU and the cause of closer involvement than the appointment of Tony Blair as EU president. What a gift to Ukip. Let him stay with his Middle East sinecure and on the public-speaking circuit. Anthony Nicholson

I do not want Tony Blair as president of the EU. Mike Murphy

Tony Blair arguably at least: 1) Undermined the UN. 2) Put George Bush too high on the British agenda and led the country down a path it could have avoided. 3) Put his world stage antics above British interests. I have no ideas for another candidate but it should be someone who understands the world and wants to really improve it. Paul Parry

I strongly oppose the suggestion that Blair should become president of the EU. At least one-third of the world's population consider that he is a man with blood on his hands and regard him as an enemy and hostile to their interests. His appointment as president would send out a hostile signal to those who feel persecuted by the West. David Blunt QC

Are there impediments to Tony Blair's assuming the presidency of the EU? In a polity where ethics were of any moment, the answer would, of course, be Yes. There is a very good case for arguing that Blair is a war criminal, directly responsible for thousands of deaths, including those of the UK forces. Michael Rosenthal

No. George Blair

There is no way on God's earth that Blair should be rewarded for his lies that led Britain to war. David Duncan

My reservations come from unanswered questions about the Invasion of Iraq. Simon Bridge

Blair does not deserve to be EU president. Steve Kelsey

Blair's appointment would not only be an affront to the hundreds of thousands of victims of the Iraq war. It would be an insult to the European project. Simon Sweeney

This war criminal should be in front of The Hague. Peter B

The sheer fact that this issue is a matter of discussion is depressing. Hannah McConnell

I would find it very hard to stomach Tony Blair as president of Europe – even setting aside my personal views about the man. He has been the US's poodle, has taken us to war on a flimsy pretext at enormous cost to the country. Why should the presidency not go to the Dutch PM? Judith and Hubert Brown

No to Mr Blair. It would be a total disgrace. Bob Wilson

The thought of that man becoming president makes my stomach heave. H Podd

Not under any circumstances. John F Mullen

In response to your call for comment I am struggling to convey my dismay, disillusion and utter contempt for those who would promote Blair for the EU Presidency. How dare M Sarkozy and others try to shove this self-serving war criminal and liar into the face of the British people, when Blair is a source of shame and revulsion to so many of us. My personal choice would be Paavo Lipponen but I would accept absolutely anyone chosen by consensus of our European partners, anyone except Blair. Julie Harrison

No. life in the UK is crazy and a lot of that is Tony Blair taking us into an illegal war with the Muslim world. Meant to be Iraq, but it turned out to be the Muslim world. Anne War

Blair should not be elected over Europe. Chas

I believe this handsomely paid position should be the result of an election. Andrew Doughty

It appears to me that Tony Blair, as someone accused of the crime of waging a war of aggression, should not be standing for this post. Jan Peter Balkenende, the Dutch premier, seems to be a decent man and there are no charges against him. Alexandra Hardie

If you wish to join a petition against Mr Blair becoming EU President, go to www.gopetition.com/online/16745.html

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(no subject) - [info]myyshop030303 - Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:13 am (UTC) Expand
Ron Silver Fox. "Demands answers".
[info]ron_broxted wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:22 am (UTC)
Reporting Myyshop030303
EU President
[info]twocy wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:40 am (UTC)
Hello. Unused to blogging. A young Irishman who voted no and then yes, as most Irish felt the need to.

One of the many reasons we had to vote no was the possibility of Tony Blair becoming our president. A really lovely man, but neither he nor George Bush have a track record to lead a peaceful and peacemaking project.

But of course when the Lisbon treaty is ratified by all the member states it will invite the dogs of war to the political table. We will then have institutionalized the sale of arms as valid industry and in such a circumstance Go Go the GeorgioTony complex.

Sorry we let it through but we are only 4.5 million and fucked.

Just saw a suggestion of Mary robinson for President. I know I'm biased but when she was my president I was brought to an inspired level of being.
95+% against Blair
[info]peteloud wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 04:03 am (UTC)
Other EU countries should note that over 95% of contributors to UK newspapers despise Blair and don't want him to be President of the EU.

If the people of the country for which he was Prime Minister don't want him then other Europeans should not be interested in having a rejected product.
Re: 95+% against Blair
[info]longon007 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC)


It wasn't the people of this country who rejected Blair as PM, it was Brown, and it was the infighting between them from day one, twelve years ago, that has dragged this country down to the gutter. At least Blair was voted in as PM, BROWN WAS NOT. Nobody on this planet voted for Brown as PM - who is clearly off his head, whose mind, what is left of it, dwells in some distant galaxy- he was just appointed by his cronies, and what unsavoury bunch they are. Even Mandy was against that idea.

I hate Blair too, so I am not a fan, but not anywhere as much as I hate and despise Brown. The worst Prime minister ever inflicted on this country. As for the Presidency -do we actually need one ? - I think Blair stands a better chance of being the next Pope, and that would be more appropriate.
Re: 95+% against Blair
[info]yorkshiredon wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 08:38 pm (UTC)
Tony Blair was not voted in as Prime Minister- he was leader of the labour party that gained an overall majority in parliament and was thus invited by the Queen to become her Prime Minister. No Prime Minister has ever been elected except by the voters in their constituency as an MP. The day that we have an opportunity to vote for who we want as Prime Minister will be the beginning of democracy in the UK
Tony Blair, the war criminal
[info]tureolsen wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 07:03 am (UTC)
Supporters of Blair and Bush sometimes claims that they are not war criminals because:

1) Iraq had not fulfilled all UN resolutions;

2) Iraq was a threat to the UK;

3) They (Blair and Bush) thought Iraq had WMD;

4) Iraq could obtain WMD in the future;

5) Politicians in other countries that did not commit war crimes also believed that Iraq had WMD.

None of these excuses are valid under international law.
BLIAR FOR PRESIDENT
[info]walterb1940 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 08:03 am (UTC)
I'm kicking myself for not getting my act together and contribute to the poll. So here's my contribution: NO NO NO NO NO a thousand times NO! This man is a specious opportunist, as he demonstrated by his shameless hijacking of the Labour Party in order to remould it in his Thatcherite neocon image. But more importantly, there is, to say the least, a case for him to answer charges for war crimes. If he's candidate, then I nominate Ronnie Biggs!!
But he will not listen
[info]deimosp wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
Does anybody think Blair will take any notice of public opinion.

With his security (costing us millions each year), he can/has quite happily isolated himself so he can have the power and the money and ignore real people, ignore their wishes, ignore their needs, etc. for him its about power and money.

Just look at his achievements as Middle East Envoy - I think what has happened in the region during his time in this role speaks volumes for his capabilities.
On the other hand
[info]deimosp wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 09:01 am (UTC)
After the rest of the EU has experienced Blair for a couple of years they might just throw the UK out of the EU - problem solved.

What worries me more than Blair is when he hands over to Brown (in some secret deal he has probably made).
Blair's spying credentials
[info]drg40 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 09:01 am (UTC)
In Paris in 2005 the Newspapers were full of the story that Blair had been caught out, dead to rights. GCHQ as they do, were intercepting all French mobile calls and passing them to their CIA masters. The CIA then passed material of commercial significance to American businesses for commercial advantage. That sort of stupity (or do I mean cupidity?) has a way of getting out. OOOOps

You can imagine that individuals at the highest level of the French establishment were using names for Blair that you wouldn't repeat in polite company.

Of course the matter wasn't reported in the UK.

But I shouldn't get too excited about the French agreeing to Blair as the first EU president, IMV it isn't going to happen. To them you might as well appoint the butcher rather than his poodle - G W Bush - and have done with it.
Oh well
[info]flacksteen wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 10:00 am (UTC)
I don't want Blair to be the President of the EU because I don't want anyone to be President. We were denied the chance to have a referendum by Brown. By the time Cameron gets to power it will be too late to have one. Let Lisbon live. Once it is in force secession from the EU is a simple matter. If we are given the chance to secede we will, then it does not matter who is President, he or she will not speak for us.
[info]palestinian_ian wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 10:32 am (UTC)
And of course, details of his MP's expenses claims were destroyed before he left office. How can he keep the EU/EC clean and control the MEPs runaway expenses with a record like that?
pResident Bliar?
[info]infohiway wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:01 am (UTC)
As for President Bliar, desperate for 'sovereign diplomatic immunity', everything he has touched is tarnished and tainted. Whoever said, "You can get rid of a cold, but you can't get rid of me,” must have had Bliar in mind.

As a shamed spinning warmonger driven from office, in league with other "radical" / "revolutionary" Leninist ilk that trashed G.B., why not give him the Nobel Peace Prise for doing nothing too and let him wreck the EU as well?

Now, there’s reason for good cheer!
Blair is unfit for public office
[info]arclight99 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:13 am (UTC)
The reasons for not wanting Blair to be president of the EU go beyond the Iraq War. People in Britain have seen what he did to this country and its not pretty. He's proven himself to be a thoroughly dishonest individual with a distinct lack of ethics and principles. He cares nothing for promises but likes spin and likes money. He should have been an advertising executive. He is unfit for any position in public life.
Most Despicable Creature
[info]rhinocircus wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:19 am (UTC)
Bliar has lowered the value of human life, as a party to the boastful "shock and awe" assault on Iraq, which killed many thousands of virtually defenceless men, women and children--even after sanctions, which, before, killed untold thousands of Iraqi children.

He (along with his sick mentor Bush), has virtually destroyed the prospect of peaceful humanity and what was once known as freedom. His powerful friends have allowed this creature--and his slimy accomplices to escape justice--and even now attempt to build a New World Order with such monsters in control.

The EU must not be part of this authoritarian process and must reject the Bliar, not only on the basis of his monumental lies, but also his gutless approach to Europe and a litany of undemocratic deeds--see Welsh and Scottish devolution and the London Mayoralty, where he tried and failed, after a determined intrigues, to install his own place men. As an ineffectual Peace Envoy to the Middle East, following his own failed "road map" for a Palestinian state, this creature leaves a trail of misery and deceit. He is an out and out fraud--and history must judge him so. I am ashamed that, such a creature succeeded to power and sustained his position, with no courageous opposition, in my life time.
royal welcome
[info]leoardo wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:37 am (UTC)
the president can expect the royal dinner, and full welcome, guard of honor, ect, so bliar coming as camerons new boss, but in ireland it would cause a riot have an englishman as their president.
EU Presidency
[info]liquibar wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 11:38 am (UTC)
Blair should be on trial in the Hague and not allowed anywhere in the vicinity of Brussels and Strasbourg.
John Roadknight
Kingsbridge
Devon
Jas
[info]fwdinsight wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:10 pm (UTC)
He was called Bliar in chat rooms. He sold this nation like his successor. One person commented today, “Can Brown never tell the truth”. He never answers questions & all details of the EU corruption has been suppressed. Bliar promised a Referendum twice at the despatch box to win the election. He was asked even if all the nations of the EU rejected the Constitution would he give us a Referendum and he said “YES”! Straight after the election he then said it was unnecessary because the other nations had rejected it. He is a liar and a deceiver. Then they changed the name of the document from Constitution to Treaty & then Brown used this to justify NO Referendum. It was the same document with clauses moved around. No matter what you call it. If it looks like a duck, Walks like a duck & quacks like a duck. It is a duck. Further although the Treaty says there is no Anthem that hasn’t bothered Brussels, they play it just the same & fly the Catholic Blue with 12 stars Mary Flag of the EU. The EU established on lies and deceit and corruption. According to the EU Auditors 95% of the EU budget amounting to £trillions is unaccounted for/missing over the past 14 years. Once this treaty is ratified the British people know what our corrupt lying politicians have signed us into. 200,000 laws is what our useless MEP’s/MP’s have rubber stamped. This government caused the credit crunch. They appointed three banks monitors, not one having power to make a decision
Stop Blair - Practical Steps
[info]snickid wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:14 pm (UTC)

To help stop Tony Blair becoming EU president:

1. Sign the following petition: http://www.stopblair.eu/

2. Contact your MP and MEPs to enlist their support against him, via: http://www.writetothem.com/
Stop Blair - Practical Steps
[info]snickid wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:19 pm (UTC)

To help stop Tony Blair becoming EU president:

1. Sign the following petition: http://www.stopblair.eu/

2. Contact your MP and MEPs to enlist their support against him, via: http://www.writetothem.com/
Superstitious man
[info]sebmel wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 12:55 pm (UTC)
I don't see anyone here mentioning the fundamental problem with Blair:

His poor grip on reality.

This is a simple, superstitious man who favours millennia old explanations borne out of ignorance over empirical analysis. He is not fit to teach kindergarden, let alone represent Europe.
Re: Superstitious man
[info]longon007 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:39 pm (UTC)


A very good point, in a nutshell " His poor grip on reality", since that seems to be the whole problem with both houses of Parliament, few of them have a grip on reality- Brown especially- which is why so many of them still, after all this time , " Don't get it" nor ever will, blinded as they are by the sense of their self importance , which bears no resemblance to " reality, life in the real world, house repossessions, millions out of work, etc etc etc

( Pleased to see that filthy post about Jews sticking together seems to have been removed )
[info]ash1168 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:01 pm (UTC)
..and if Saddam had used his WMD on the UK, all you wishy washy liberals would be saying Blair had blood on his hands for the millions killed in a nuked London. (the fact they didn't find any WMD was an irrelevant side-show; he'd already been using them to good effect on the kurds.. but well, who gives a shit about the kurds?) BTW I vote Liberal, but think Tony would be a great choice. Blood on his hands? no, its the Queen who has blood on her hands for issuing the declaration of war. Why are the majority of Brits such ardent supporters of democracy when they can't even elect their head of state, or the person who declares war on other countries? All the finger pointers at Blair are just as guilty of war crimes as he is. This country has got imbecilic; compassion for terrorists, a "don't blame them" attitude to Al Kaida, no sense of proportion. Sad to say, it will take some WMDs exploding in britain's green & pleasants before you wake up & small the coffee.
ASH ...
[info]infohiway wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:26 pm (UTC)
NONSENSE:
THE AND THE UN: RITTER AND BLIX KNEW SADDAM WAS DISARMED AND NOTHING BUT RHETORIC.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASH.
Re: ASH ...
[info]longon007 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:46 pm (UTC)


Indeed, what utter pathetic tosh " the Queen has blood on her hands" ASH's head does indeed seem to be in a peculiar place. " Nuked in London" come on, get real, give us all a break...
Re: ASH ...
[info]infohiway wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:27 pm (UTC)
Bloodthirsty ("I wanna be a 'war leader'!") Boosh and BLiar lied through their teeth for Wolfie and others - like PNAC, the NeoCON loonies, plus the entire Military Industrial Complex.

Why? Aside from the financial sectors all tanking after the DotCON scandal(s), FOR THE MONEY and because an unrepentant blustering Saddam, even after losing Gulf War I, still condemned ... guess who?

Now the entire region from Israel to Afghanistan is festering from cancers (radiation sickness) induced by 'sub-nuclear war'from 'depleted (NOT) uranium' (a WMD with a 5-billion year half-life ... merrily used in most modern 'ordinances').

ASH ... OLE
[info]infohiway wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 02:28 pm (UTC)
NONSENSE:
THE US, UK AND THE UN'S RITTER AND BLIX KNEW SADDAM WAS DISARMED AND NOTHING BUT RHETORIC.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASH.
(no subject) - [info]burnrubber2 - Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Blair to become president of www.carthrottle.com
[info]burnrubber2 wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:04 pm (UTC)
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The Outlaw Gordon Brown (Blair)
[info]jordyhammonds wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:05 pm (UTC)
Check out ?THE OUTLAW GORDON BROWN? On youtube

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThisIsJohnnyBlack#p/u/8/w66ywNA8Vpc
[info]dnmurphy wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:16 pm (UTC)
I was going to write a few reasons why NO, but cannot be bothered to spend several months writing a historical tome. his few achievements were mostly very slight, apart from Northern Ireland (even there without major's groundwork and American support he would have got nowhere).

Leave him to his millions and keep him out of our political systems.
Bliar Bliar Pants On Fire
[info]romper_levis wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 03:19 pm (UTC)
I have become convinced that Tony Blair is an utter liar and fraud. He (and his money-grubbing wife) have betrayed the interests not just of the Labour Party but of the people of this country. So long as they can jet off for yet another freebie holiday or buy yet another property to add to their empire, they do not care what happens to the citizens of Britain, our brave soldiers dying in Afghanistan, or the betrayed people who have been murdered in his illegal wars in the Middle East. This man is nothing more or less than a war criminal and traitor. His dodgy friend Silvio might still believe in him. But fewer and fewer Europeans do. If there is to be a European President, at least let it be someone with a shred of integrity and honour.
BTW: WHO MISSED THE 2008 CENTOPATH???
[info]infohiway wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 04:04 pm (UTC)
Tony Blair. That's who.

He was either not invited, told to steer clear or out of shame did not dare to show his face. Of course the spin was: "Due to urgent and crucial 'prior commitments'."

You know, like say, seriously "Making Peace in the M.E." (NOT!) and keeping a straight face while spinning it.

Yet, these days, there are no commitments more grave than Remembrance Day - Tony. http://tinyurl.com/yktmct7

Dare he show his face for the next one? Naah! He'll be far too busy partying and politicking in Euroland!

Remembrance Day Service & Parade
when: 8 Nov 2009 (annual)
where: Cenotaph
cost: Free
time: Whitehall open from 8am; two-minute silence 11am

Indeed bringing new: life, breath and meaning to the term 'conspicuous by his absence'


A liar and a Christianist
[info]chrisasmith wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 04:15 pm (UTC)
Where Christianist = fake, phony Christian who confuses his muddled thinking with the will of an imaginary friend.
Blair for President
[info]foodunconfused wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 04:26 pm (UTC)
President of the United States of Europe - whatever next? Heaven help us! But even the Americans elect their president so if the EU is to become democratic elections are required. But since most of us don't want the EU anyway why on earth would we want a president?

I doubt many people in this country would vote for Blair after our experiences of his reign and its aftermath.

Kay Dee
Blair for President
[info]gerryco wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 05:03 pm (UTC)
This would be a disaster for the EU and its standing in the world. I can't believe that EU leaders such as Sarkozy or Merkel can be seriously considering this as a proposition. As many correspondents have said, the man should be tried for war crimes - not foisted on Europeans as their global representative.
Sarcasm?
[info]terribleblodge wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 07:56 pm (UTC)
The last two "yes" votes in that list look more like sarcasm to me. I'm rather sure they were intended as "no"s.
a good example of creating a dialectic
[info]gnosticmason wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 08:08 pm (UTC)
make the question do you want Bliar or not, instead of: Do you want an unelected leader for an unelected group of elitist scum?
Gold Fraud UK
[info]pcolloids wrote:
Sunday, 18 October 2009 at 08:30 pm (UTC)
A surge in the gold price cometh, perhaps imminently. In the next several weeks, the gold price might jump quickly to the $1500 level. A contact with excellent access to gold transaction information and developments has shared that the sharp price rise could come very soon "due to certain transactions that are being consummated at this very moment. Even if the Boyz try to hold own or depress the price, it will do them no good. The pressure that has been built up is uncontrollable. We shall see some big banks hit the wall very soon (weeks/months). The market will take over in very short order from here on forward." A phase has begun to remove illicit corrupt controls on the gold & silver market, from demand of physical bullion. The same source told a story about events at the London Bullion Market Assn. That market is to London what the COMEX is to the United States, both deep in corruption and government interference, where grossly inadequate metal inventory exists to maintain their charades of markets, each dominated by paper pricing. They manage paper markets for syndicates in total illegal operations. Several large gold futures contract holders are demanding physical delivery in London. The LBMA does not have the metal in inventory. The officials have offered the futures contract holders cash plus 25% dividend for settlement without gold delivery. The contract holders refused. They want their fuchn gold (using a French term by the source, my unique palatable spelling)!!! There was very high volume involved in the contracts. The standoff is not settled. It could go to court. The London authorities are trying desperately to keep the story from hitting the press. It helps to have the syndicate in control of the press networks. The Bank of England and one other European member central bank are working feverishly to fill the contract order, but unfortunately they are using very old gold bars that are reportedly only 90% gold. That invites a new potential challenge. The gold market could soon explode and possibly work toward a convergent fair market. My hint is that it is Germans and Swiss with other Europeans are working diligently and pointedly to kill off the US-UK bank nazis. A LBMA and COMEX bust and default is visible on the horizon. See the Jackass article entitled "Hitman Contracts to Bust Comex" (CLICK HERE) dated in May 27. It would include big bank ruin and legal prosecution. The same source hinted that the ruin of commodity exchanges could coincide with the bust of JPMorgan. So, based upon the London incident, gold has a real price of near $1300.

Blair for Europe
[info]kempez wrote:
Monday, 19 October 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC)
Its strange isn't how liberals can get so worked up into a froth about Blair...a man who showed courage, leadership against a Fascist dictator that brutally murdered and repressed his own people.
Similarly so with his lead on Bosnia and the fascist ethnic cleansing. Similar to the fascist taliban with their Islamist homophobia and women hatred. Put your little rages to bed and go back to your blogsites.
SK
Re: Blair for Europe
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Monday, 19 October 2009 at 11:20 am (UTC)
Blair didn't stand up to any 'Fascist dictator'. Indeed he collaborated with him in launching an illegal invasion that led to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians being killed. If that isn't ethnic cleansing then what is?
Teflon Tony
[info]angrymediane wrote:
Monday, 19 October 2009 at 09:59 pm (UTC)
I read this on rantsite.co.uk and agree
Instead of pointing out the obvious, people, why arnt you looking at the BIG picture????
I can't bring myself to mention that mans name...so henceforth, i will refer to him as TB.
(Just a shame he wasn't erradicated in this country, like the other disease sharing his initials)
TB has been covertly canvassing for this post , from the moment he "conveniently" handed over the running down of this once great country to gormless Gordon.
I won't show myself up by failing miserable to correctly spell these peoples names, so will refer to their countries instead!
The leader of France is said to be in favour of TB for pres . The German chancellor is firmly against ( I've always liked that woman!!! ) As usual , the Italians are on the fence, and could switch sides at any minute!! The other countries in the Union don't really count , as they are more than likely to go with whomever these three back!
Next year , when we are finally rid of Labour , we will have either a Conservative government , or, a Tory led , hung parliament.... following so far people???
IF..... TB is successful in his quest for european dominance , we will have an ex labour prime minister , politically outranking our own legally elected government!
If you think British politics is on the verge of chaos today...think forward to this time next year , when , "President" TB is blocking everything the Tories will do , just because he can!!!
That , my friends , is what chaos will really look like!
As a side issue..........When will someone tell TB that political power DOESN'T compensate for having small genitals!!
Re: Teflon Tony
[info]angrymediane wrote:
Monday, 19 October 2009 at 10:04 pm (UTC)
NO to Blair for EU Presidency
[info]jpunt wrote:
Tuesday, 20 October 2009 at 04:37 am (UTC)
Probably the greatest triumph of Jean Monnet's creation has been the abolition of wars in Europe. It would be a mockery of the EU's success to appoint as President a man who took his country to war in any circumstances, but especially on the basis of lies. Whereas Blair's closeness to the USA may be promoted as a factor in his favour, one must view with the deepest reservations the financial links between Blair and/or his Foundation and two non-European countries, the USA and Israel. It is inevitable that the EU will experince growth in the size of its population of the Islamic faith and Blair's role in the torture, mutilation and death of so many Iraqis can not be a good ground for reconciling the needs of that section of the population with the rest of the EU peoples. Charismatic and persuasive advocate that Blair may be, one should not be blind to the rank self-interest that lies behind his every move. Europe has had other such leaders and they have only led to chaos and destruction. Blair must be stopped. Dr Jonathan Punt.
all the emails
[info]the_real_omen wrote:
Tuesday, 20 October 2009 at 11:48 am (UTC)
You never put all the emails. The most succinct one was omitted. Does not say much about the Indie.
WHO deserves "a bullet"?
[info]blairsupporter wrote:
Sunday, 25 October 2009 at 12:26 am (UTC)
Congratulations for removing at least ONE comment from the above. Of course it is BUT one comment that has been encouraged by this kind of personalised hatred of Tony Blair. There are MANY more that need to be discouraged.

I've written about it here, for any of your readers of a less prejudiced condition:

http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/do-some-independent-readers-deserve-a-bullet/
tony blair
[info]surrealman wrote:
Monday, 26 October 2009 at 07:06 pm (UTC)
Tony Blair has let down the people of this country by lying and taking us into an illegal war. The lives of thousands of Iraquis and hundreds of British soldiers are his responsibility. He belongs in the Hague facing trial not in Brussels.

I am boiling with anger at the thought that this man could end up as President of the EU. It took long enough for him to step down as PM after his crimes.

Bryan Andrews
Hertford
Blairs and Balkenende's candidacy for EU president
[info]johann29 wrote:
Monday, 2 November 2009 at 09:21 pm (UTC)
Both Belong in Scheveningen in the special jail of the international court of justice. Balkenende also knows why Mr. David Kelley had to be murdered; there was 1000 billion dollars of war conctracts at stake. For his war support Shell got the lucrative contracts in Iraq. So called socialists and christian politicians seem to be all shameless murderers, not better than Josef Goebbels. They only have a different image.
Jelmerm the Netherlands

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