Obama condemned for acting like Bush

By Kim Sengupta

Friday, 26 June 2009

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Relations between the US and Iran over the protests deteriorated sharply yesterday when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused Barack Obama of behaving like his predecessor, George W Bush, and declared there was no point in talking to Washington unless the US President apologised.

The American response to the crackdown on the protests had been initially low-key and Britain, rather than the "Great Satan", had been the focus of anger for Iran's rulers.

But Mr Obama has hardened his position saying he was "appalled and outraged" by the suppression of dissent. He also dismissed Tehran's claims that outsiders orchestrated the disturbances. The State Department has withdrawn invitations to Iranian diplomats to the Independence Day celebrations on 4 July.

President Ahmadinejad said yesterday that "Mr Obama made a mistake to say those things... our question is why he fell into this trap and said things that previously Bush used to say."

"Do you want to speak with this tone? If that is your stance then what is left to talk about?... I hope you avoid interfering in Iran's affairs and express your regret in a way that the Iranian nation is informed of it."

According to diplomatic sources, the Iranian regime had been "pleasantly surprised" by the lack of stronger criticism from Washington at the start of the crisis and appears to have been surprised by the change of tone from Washington.

A British official said "They [the Iranians] had spared the US from the usual vitriol until now. What we are seeing is normal service resuming."

Mohammad Marandi, head of North American Studies at Tehran University, said mistrust of the United States and Britain was rife.

"In the short term, relations will definitely get worse, but in the long term the US really has to re-think its policy and to recognise that regime change is not possible in Iran," he said.

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Suspect election in Iran?

reg373 wrote:

Friday, 26 June 2009 at 11:05 pm (UTC)

Easy solution really;
have results verified by old pal Jimmy Carter... ;^)
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That said...

reg373 wrote:

Friday, 26 June 2009 at 11:17 pm (UTC)

Obama needs to can it actually, right now. When adversary is in process of shooting self in foot,
step away and let it happen. Chiming in can only give needed propaganda oxygen, to Ahmadinejad.

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obama condemed

gmak101 wrote:

Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 12:57 am (UTC)

this is a hypothsis comment. take it as you like: israel wanted to strike iran nuclear facilities. but the us refused that action because of the consequences of this act. first it would be of a minor deterent to iran determination to acquire nuclear weapons if in fact that is iran intent. second, iran could(indeed would) block the oil tankers passeges through the gulf straits leading most likely to create a hov for the oil commerce. it would seem likely that both the us and israel resorted to their well rehearsed covert -fomented uprising with the intention of defeating the curren iran president in the election. israel, with possibly the encouragemnet of the us wanted the nuclear program halted, only because a nuclear armed nation in the middle and ear east will resist israel efforts to declare hegemony on these regions. they attacked iraq and syria reactors and publicised the possibility that pakistan nuclear arms will fall in the hands of terrorists with the intent of disarming pakistan. now it is iran turn.

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Ahmadinejad just made Obomber's day-I

fin_d_empire wrote:

Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 07:11 am (UTC)

The comments for this story were disabled until late last night so I had to post them under another Iran story. I'm finally able to post them here. These childish pranks with the comments are really tiresome, I really wish the Indy would grow up.

Obamaniacs have swallowed the Chicago slickster's "diplomacy with Iran" act hook line and sinker. As a con man, the guy is just awesome. Chicks can't get enough of him. He goes on TV all sincere and contrite, promising to sing Kumbaya with Ahmadinejad but he's already told his war secretary to get the bombers ready:

Obama orders Gates to update plan for Iran strike

American defense secretary tells NBC television president has instructed him to refresh plans for military action against Tehran prepared during Bush era.

Obomber is the new Teddy Roosevelt: Speak softly and have your entourage carry big sticks. Here's Hillary's Louisville Slugger:

Clinton Threatens to Attack Iran 'The Way That We Did' Iraq

Secretary of State Says US or "Some Other Enemy" May Launch First Strike Against Iran

The comments came during an interview on ABC's "This Week" program, and when asked by interviewer and former Clinton-era official George Stephanopoulus, Secretary Clinton reiterated "that's right, as a first strike."

Secretary Clinton also extended the American nuclear umbrella over Israel in the event that Iran attacked them.

Clinton doubtful on Iran diplomacy

Associated Press, Mar 2, 2009

US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed doubt Monday that Iran would respond to the Obama administration's expressions of interest in engaging Teheran on nuclear and other issues, a senior State Department official said.

In the case of a hypothetical (more like fictional) Iranian nuclear attack on Israel, Obomber isn't satisfied with Israel nuking Iran back; he wants to nuke Iran some more himself:

Despite its decision to pursue diplomatic negotiations with Teheran over its nuclear program, the United States would view an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel as an attack on itself, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Sunday, asserting that there would be retaliation for any such attack.

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Ahmadinejad just made Obomber's day-II

fin_d_empire wrote:

Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 07:14 am (UTC)

That's not all, while Obomber was scolding Netanyahoo on the settlements in front of the cameras, behind closed doors the two were drawing up a timetable for "diplomacy" with Iran on the model of Bush's "diplomacy" with Saddam: scheduled-to-fail diplomacy, every step of which would be tied to the elaborate preparations for war:

Obama Tells Netanyahu He Has an Iran Timetable

New York Times, May 18, 2009

WASHINGTON - President Obama said Monday that he expected to know by the end of the year whether Iran was making "a good-faith effort to resolve differences" in talks aimed at ending its nuclear program, signaling to Israel as well as Iran that his willingness to engage in diplomacy over the issue has its limits.

"We're not going to have talks forever," Mr. Obama told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel after a two-hour session in the Oval Office.

The president added that he did not intend to foreclose "a range of steps" if Iran did not cooperate.

U.S. Israel forming high-level working group on Iran: report

www.chinaview.cn 2009-05-20

WASHINGTON, May 20 (Xinhua) -- The United States and Israel are quietly forming a high-level working group to exchange studies over the issues of Iran, including intelligence about the country's nuclear program and progress of outreach to the country, the Washington Times reported Wednesday.

The agreement, reached during Monday's meeting between U.S. President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House, gives the U.S. a clear channel for communicating with the new Israeli government and a vehicle for keeping tabs on any military contingency plans Israel might make if diplomacy fails and Iran develops nuclear weapons capability, the report said.

So the little beady-eyed creep Ahmadinejad is just playing into Obomber's trigger-happy hands with his tough talk. Obomber has already got him in a corner by staging a "colored revolution" and forcing the regime to crack down on the rampaging rioters, which the obedient Wurlitzer media hocks off as "democracy protesters." The PR campaign to demonize Iran and prepare Joe Sixpack for the coming "shock and awe" fireworks display on Iran's nukes is running like clockwork. Dumbya never had such a servile media at his beck & call. Even Robert Fisk has become an Iran-basher and will be able to tell his grandchildren how he helped Mubarak Obomber soften up the boobs for the war on Iran.

(Ali Safari/AFP/Getty Images)
The Wurlitzer news media calls these rioters "protesters," pretends that they are burning & trashing Tehran for "democracy" and makes the cops' very measured response to these riots (just think London G20) look like a Tiananmen-style crackdown. It's all for a good cause: Demonizing Iran so that we won't get upset when the Yanks & Israelis start bombing it.

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This just in

fin_d_empire wrote:

Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 08:41 am (UTC)

See how Mousavi's Yank- and Brit-backed "green revolution" riots fit right in with Obomber's scheduled-to fail "diplomacy?"

Violence May Hinder Talks With Iran, Obama Says

New York Times, June 26, 2009

WASHINGTON - President Obama, whose campaign for the White House included a pledge to open talks with Iran, said Friday that the prospects for such a dialogue had been dampened by the brutal crackdown in the wake of the nation?s disputed presidential election.

Obomber's Wurlitzer media bent over backwards to make Mousavi's rioters look like the peaceful protesters of Tiananmen and the boobs bought it. On one side, you got peaceful idealistic protesters facing tanks, on the other side you got valdals and thugs burning the city down and attacking Basij headquarters to seize weapons, with the cops holding their punches for an entire week as the rioters ran amuck. Finally, somebody sends a sniper to take out an innocent bystander and Obomber steps to the podium saying "the violence is unacceptable" and he's calling the talks off.

And the boobs still buy it.

Not that I really mind. I'm all for Iran & the Yanks beating each other to death. I'm all for the ayatollahs getting their corruption-financed villas bombed and Iranian missiles hitting US bases in the Gulf. I'm all for Hamas's last hope of survival going up in smoke. Maybe bombing Iran will give Iraqi Sunnis a break at long last and prevent the final partition of that country between Kurds & Shiite Iranian stooges. Maybe Iran will be the one that will end up like Humpty Dumpty. The Middle East would heave a huge sigh of relief if that medieval, terror-sponsoring, secret Zionist ally country were put out of commission for a decade or two.

What I'm incensed about is the sheer volume and ubiquitiousness of Western war propaganda and the brain-dead response of the public to it. Fuck, if this is all the democracy and free thought that your planet-destroying opulence and waste have managed to produce, you lot deserve your debilitating wars, your recession, and the corrupt, incompetent leaders who take you ever-deeper into them.

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Ahmadinejad just made Obomber's day-III

fin_d_empire wrote:

Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 07:17 am (UTC)

Truth be told, Obomber is making himself very popular not only with AIPAC but also among Sunni Arab leaders with his secret "bomb bomb bomb Iran" strategy:

Obama courts Israel with pact against Tehran
The Times, May 17, 2009

PRESIDENT Barack Obama hopes to tempt Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli leader, into making concessions to the Palestinians by holding out the prospect of a "grand alliance" of moderate Arab states against a nuclear Iran.

Boys and girls, you have before you in the person of Mubarak Obomber the slickest, most straight-faced liar who ever sat in the Oval Office, as well as possibly the most congenial mass-murderer in history. Why did he have to be a Kenyan-American with a Muslim name? Are the bankers & warmongers who picked him out of the Chicago gutter and propelled him to instant greatness trying to be funny in a Mr.-Burnsy way?