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Obama hopes his magic can thaw the frost in Moscow

By David Usborne, US Editor

Even before Barack Obama boards Air Force One tonight to attend the first fully fledged summit between the US and Russia since 2002, the diplomatic ether between Moscow and Washington is fairly crackling with the static of both anticipation and latent suspicion.

Russia is the first and the most critical of three stops on Mr Obama's latest transatlantic foray, which will include the G8 summit in Italy and an inevitably emotional visit by America's first black leader to Africa.

While the tourist shelves of Moscow are clogged with Obama dolls, the President faces challenges in his two days there, including talks tomorrow with President Dmitry Medvedev and on Tuesday with the Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin. He will also meet the former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and deliver a major policy speech.

With Mr Medvedev, progress will be measured in part by an agreement on talks over replacing Start 1, the strategic arms treaty, which expires in December.

But before leaving Washington, Mr Obama indicated that his greater goal is to show that the clichés of Cold War antagonism between Russia and the US can be left behind. "This will be a very important meeting which will basically answer the question of whether the US and Russia can work together," said Dmitry Trenin, the director of the Moscow Carnegie Center, a think-tank.

Mr Obama indulged in a not-so-subtle dig at Mr Putin. "I think that it's important that even as we move forward with President Medvedev that Putin understand that the old Cold War approaches to US-Russian relations is outdated," he said. "Putin has one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new."

Teasing Mr Putin, if only a bit, carries risks for Mr Obama. "The most important part about his trip to Moscow is going to be his discussions with Vladimir Putin," Andrew Kuchins, of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said.

Mr Putin himself attempted gently to swat away Mr Obama's remarks. "We don't know how to stand so awkwardly with our legs apart," he said on Russian television. "We stand solidly on our own two feet and always look into the future." His spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, was harsher. "Such a point of view has nothing to do with a true understanding of Putin," he said.

The White House remains hopeful that the "Obama Effect" can be put to work in Russia. The President signalled his interest in engaging in new arms talks in Prague in April and has indicated a willingness to reconsider plans to embark on a new anti-missiles shield in Europe. Washington has also quietly put further expansion of Nato – a serious irritant to US-Russia relations – on the back-burner.

But there are still frictions, including the hangover from Russia's military operations in Georgia. Surveys suggest ordinary Russians are almost as wary of the US under Mr Obama as they were of George Bush's America.

Aides to the President hope younger Russians especially will be wooed when they hear Mr Obama's speech, billed as one of a series of four addresses to a global audience that began in Prague and continued in Egypt.

The fourth comes in Ghana. The mere prospect of Mr Obama's touching down in Africa has the region fizzing, although some countries, including Nigeria and Kenya, the birthplace of his father, are wondering why he chose Ghana. Mr Obama partly answered the question in an interview with the allAfrica website. It's about the exercise of democracy.

"Countries where leadership recognises that they are accountable to the people, and that institutions are stronger than any one person, have a track record of producing results for the people. And we want to highlight that," he said.

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"the old Cold-War cliches"
[info]reiksares wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 01:52 am (UTC)
They're coming straight out of the mouth of Bush II.

He can turn right around and fly home if he arrives saying that.

Not wanted here, thanks, "Good Buddy".
A lesson learned the hard way in Russia
[info]topolcats wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 03:01 am (UTC)
Russians have learned a lesson they will never forget, when the promises of Reagan and Clinton of "No NATO Expansion" were ignored. Actually they were Not promises but propaganda.
Gorbachev the most loved in the west but most hated in Russia along with the Boorish Drunk Yeltsin were bought like cheap radio from china by Americas special services, notably when Thomas Pickering was ambassador to Russia. Those were the days US agents came calling on Russian politicians with millions in suitcases along with Israels creation of the Russian oligarchs who were 99% Jewish Russians, the sole purpose of this of course was to weaken Russia to insure it never ever threatened American hegemony again. it failed thank god, due to Clinton's miscalculation in relation to bombing Serbia. That's when a great man called Putin and other nationalists in Russia decided Russia was to important historically to be subjected to an attack on it sovereignty, no less as damaging as the Attacks by Napoleon and Hitler. In view of these historical facts. Obama's trip will be all smiles for the camera with Russian leaders and all will be well. Rest assured Russia will never go into partnership with a country with the morals of Lucretia Borgia and will always have eyes behind its head when dealing with any American administration.
Obomber takes his begging bowl to Moscow
[info]fin_d_empire wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 08:55 am (UTC)
His debt-addicted economy in freefall and his overstretched military bogged in quagmires, Obomber is heading to Russia to beg Medvedev to allow him to resupply his Afhanistan quagmire-war over Russian territory (since the Taliban won't let him do it over Pakistan), not to arm Iran with S-300 missiles that would make bombing it impossible, not to ditch the dollar, not to stop selling gas to the pesky EU and redirect it to China instead, not to hang Saakashvili by his balls if he starts another war, not to deploy new ABM-avoiding missiles systems that would make a mockery of his missile shield, and on and on and on.

Obomber is a desperate man but he's still got a mouth on him. He still has the chutzpah to lecture Putin. He will learn the hard way, like Bush did in Georgia, that you don't fuck with Putin's Russia.
Re: Obomber takes his begging bowl to Moscow
[info]ydef wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 02:37 pm (UTC)
Do you ever get your facts right or do you intentionally make them up your claimed fabrications hoping that the less informed will buy the propaganda you spew?

FYI, the US is NOT dependent upon Russia to assist in helping resupply Afghanistan. A deal has already been done with Kyrgyzstan to continue using their bases for their supply line.

I liked you better as find_empire. Back then at least it appeared you could spell. That brittle grasp you had of reality really is of no good use anymore now that you've chopped off your hand.
Re: Obomber takes his begging bowl to Moscow
[info]fin_d_empire wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 05:58 pm (UTC)
Never knew you were such a fan - or cared. And fuck you too, dearie. The $180 mil the Yanks agreed to pay Bakiyev for Manas is rent, not a purchase. Now that he knows how desperate Obomber is he'll want more and the Russkies will in pitch in with both carrots and sticks. No way is the Yanks' problem over.
The Wall St puppet
[info]someofusknow wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 09:58 am (UTC)
The Wall St puppet has already lost most of his credibility; operating the strings were less visisble on Muffin the Mule or marrionettes in Thunderbirds.

By the end of the year Obama is likely to be on a par with the Clown in Whitehall, and anything he says will regarded internationally as a joke. However, he will get his bonus from Goldman Sachs for all the good work he has done so far in progressing the money-lenders agenda .... probably all that really matters to Obama.
Obama: a dumb remark from an apparently intelligent leader
[info]mikhalovich wrote:
Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 01:33 pm (UTC)
Obama's remark about Putin having one foot in the cold war is the most stupid, ill-informed comment yet to exit this apparently intelligent man's mouth. Not only Putin, but Elts'in the Drunk wanted to get on better with the United States. Elts'in went on his knees to do it, something Putin would not do, but he was willing to get on better with Washington, if the Americans reciprocated. But there was the problem. The Americans thought they had "won" the cold war. People in the Pentagon dreamed of breaking up the Soviet Union and could not believe their luck when this actually happened in 1991. We got them down, they thought, let's keep them there. So, contrary to promises made, the Americans pushed NATO right up to the doorstep of St. Petersburg. They brought in the nasty Polish nationalists who still cannot forget the 18th c. partitions of Poland. They brought down Yugoslavia. They engineered the so-called revolutions in the Ukraine and Georgia. They plan a missile system in eastern Europe allegedly to protect against Iran, but no thinking Russian would believe that fairy tale. Finally, after the Georgians attacked South Ossetia, the Russians said enough is enough, you crossed the red line. The crushed the Georgian army and could have, should have gone to Tbilisi to oust the half crazed nationalist Sakashvili. While the Russian government showed restraint, the American and most of the British press became unhinged, bathing in Russophobic, atavistic hysteria for which they should ever be ashamed, but of course will not be. After all this, Obama, the ever so intelligent, smooth, apparently intelligent American president has the gall to say Putin has one foot in the cold war. The Americans are habitual hypocrites, but Obama has outdone all his predecessors with this one unbelievably stupid comment.

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