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The Big Question: What is at stake in the Geneva talks for Iran – and the West?

By Katherine Butler, Foreign Editor

Why are we asking this now?

The most critical moment in the seven years of the international stand-off over Iran's nuclear programme is set for today, when diplomats from six world powers will face the chief Iranian nuclear negotiator in Geneva. The US, which has shunned any direct talks with Iran for 30 years, will take a leading role. The meeting, the first of its kind in a year, comes just days after the US, France and Britain dramatically revealed the existence a secret Iranian nuclear enrichment facility which they suspect to be part of Iran's efforts to acquire a nuclear bomb. The six powers (the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany) will demand "immediate and unfettered" access to the underground plant. They then want a commitment from Iran that it will enter into negotiations about stopping all expansion of enrichment activities that could lead to a weapons arsenal. As if tensions were not already high enough Iran has just engaged in two days of war games, test-firing missiles capable of reaching Israel or US bases in the Middle East.

After the debacle over Iraq's WMD, how can we trust Western intelligence on Iran?

Hans Blix, the former chief UN weapons inspector and the man who led the hunt for what turned out to be non-existent WMD in Iraq, says the present crisis has echoes of the build- up to the war on Saddam, but with one big difference. Iraq had nothing. Iran has a lot of nuclear activity, and the capability to enrich uranium to weapons grade. Intelligence reports and inspections strongly indicate that Iran has, at various times, tried to acquire the means to build a bomb, although US and British intelligence agencies differ on the detail. The Americans, in a national intelligence estimate published in December 2007, concluded that work on "weaponisation" (converting nuclear material into warheads) was halted in autumn 2003. The British, Israelis and Germans suspect Iran has been trying to manufacture weapons more recently.

Western intelligence did pick up on the newly revealed nuclear site at Qom several years ago and Tehran has not denied its existence, just the charge that it has any military function or that there was a cover-up.

How worried should we be by Iran's nuclear programme?

News of a second, previously undeclared uranium enrichment plant conjured up mental images of bearded mullahs hunched over centrifuges in a bunker under a mountain near the ancient holy city of Qom. Put that with the knowledge that some devout Iranian Shias, including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, are followers of Mahdi, the so-called "Twelfth Imam" who they believe, will return only "in a time of chaos" and you could reach some apocalyptic conclusions. An alternative view is that the mullahs are entirely rational politicians motivated by the desire to cling on to the power they seized in the Islamic revolution 30 years ago. They certainly also feel encircled in the Middle East and may want to convey the impression they have a nuclear deterrent.

What we know for sure is that Iran is enriching uranium – which they claim they need to do to generate atomic energy. But the Qom plant is on a Revolutionary Guards base, and is far too small to be of any possible use in a civilian nuclear programme. To make weapons they need to enrich their uranium to a much higher level than required for a fuel reactor. With 3,000 centrifuges the scientists at Qom would need about a year to enrich raw uranium to bomb grade. But they already have access to plutonium and low enriched uranium and enriching that would take less time experts believe. They also have both short and long-range missiles although nobody believes they are yet at the stage of weaponisation, in other words combining a nuclear warhead with a missile. Another concern is that the UN nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, inspects only nuclear sites which Iran has reported to it, so it could be hiding a third, or even a fourth undeclared plant.

What's the US strategy and does the world agree?

Barack Obama's plan is to up the ante by threatening to tighten patchy existing sanctions to a regime of harsh UN sanctions if Iran fails to come clean and enter negotiations by December. If he could achieve a united front, it would be a big victory for his vision of multilateralism. But there are cracks which Iran will be quick to exploit. The US President has gone some way in persuading Russia to stop blocking sanctions in the UN Security Council. But Moscow sells energy technology to Iran and still sees its links with the regime as a means of gaining the upper hand in its dealings with the West. China buys huge amounts of oil from Iran; is eager to preserve that energy relationship and typically does not trust the notion of interventionism. China would veto any kind of embargo on refined oil shipments. Winning agreement on a toothless sanctions package would be as damaging as no sanctions at all, because they would not work.

Can the Iranian opposition help?

We saw the ugly side of the clerical regime after the June elections. Democracy protesters have been tortured and raped in prison, according to witness accounts. Scores have died, disappeared or been paraded in mass show trials. But the repression does not mean Iranians don't still criticise their President (challenging the Islamic system of government is a different matter). Many openly blame Mr Ahmadinejad's bellicose handling of the outside world for the country's economic isolation. Yet, most regard the nuclear programme, and the idea of having a capability equal to Israel's, as totemic, a symbol of national pride. Opposition leaders, including Mirhossein Mousavi, support the nuclear policy and worry about the impact harsh sanctions on poorer Iranians. Indirectly however, the courage of the grassroots movement is helping. Their protests flushed out the weakness of the regime and the fissures in its ranks. A nervous Ahmadinejad will not want a fight on two fronts so this may push him into eventually seeking an accommodation with the West.

Could the meeting yield a breakthrough?

It is hard to find anyone who doesn't expect failure, given the mistrust. Unlike the previous US administration, which would not talk until the Iranians first committed to suspending enrichment, Barack Obama is imposing no preconditions. But Iran reacts badly to threats of punishmentand its representative Saeed Jalili will not be authorised to make any decisions today that don't have to be referred back up to the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

Could this crisis end in war?

Mr Obama's foreign policy is underpinned by a desire to tackle problems like Iran through multilateral dialogue rather than go-it-alone military adventures. But in the current inflammatory atmosphere, Iran is being portrayed literally as a ticking time bomb. With growing pressure from Israel, Mr Obama could conceivably find himself hurtling towards a confrontation he doesn't want, in an effort not just to contain Iran, but to avoid looking weak.

Can Iran's nuclear ambitions be kept in check peacefully?

Yes...

* The mullahs face a groundswell of dissent and need to negotiate.

* Washington could offer to restore diplomatic ties conditional on a freeze in nuclear activity.

* Offer Iran a role in solving Afghanistan and other regional problems. This would take the poison out of the present impasse.

No...

* The clerical regime has shown its duplicity so many times it can't be believed or trusted to negotiate.

* The discovery of a second nuclear enrichment plant means Iran could be hiding a third or even a fourth.

* The Iranian opposition rely on the West to intervene forcefully now for the sake of human rights.

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NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION, OBAMA STYLE...
[info]pacificgatepost wrote:
Thursday, 1 October 2009 at 02:26 am (UTC)

Going to the table to “talk” when you have no will, and you have given up the leverage that Russia could have provided, will now prove futile. It will also allow Iran to continue apace the development of its nuclear weapons.

Obama gave up a powerful element when he backed off the Europe based missile shield without concessions from Putin.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2009/09/obamas-blunder-on-iran.html

Additional sanctions will prove will achieve nothing other than hurt Iranians who will “blame” the West.
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Load of cr*p
[info]jl3793 wrote:
Thursday, 1 October 2009 at 02:41 am (UTC)
If the USA knew that the Qum site was a nuclear weapons installation then it was obliged to advise the IAEA. Which it didn't do. Instead the Iranians advised the IAEA that they were beginning construction on the facility which is exactly what they are required to do. It was only after this notice to the IAEA that the USA stated that it had discovered the facility. Great once the information is public then the USA reports that it has discovered a big lie. Just who is lying? And what about the nuclear states that haven't even followed the protocols of the IAEA or accepted the legal status of the IAEA of the applicability of the protocols? Could we possibly name a few of them?
Pull the other one
[info]fin_d_empire wrote:
Thursday, 1 October 2009 at 08:21 am (UTC)
Here we go again, the new boss same as the old boss, leading us down the same garden path, his leash pulled by the same fanatical Israeli right-wing party, and the yellow wurlitzer media once again assuming the position to expedite the delivery of thousands of tons of bunker-busters to Iran.

The Indy's foreign editor seemingly offers us a "balanced" assessment here of both sides of the "bomb Iran" debate - because with the so-called "negotiations" today having been turned into a Western ultimatum thanks to the media-disseminated lie that Iran kept the Qom facility "secret" or that it is capable of producing bomb material, diplomacy is effectively over and we all know where that leads.

However, Ms. Butler takes care not to start out with the CIA's clear-cut statement that Iran has ended its nuke weapons program in 2003, period, but with Hans Blix's mealy-mouthed almost-untruth that Iran has not been transparent and can produce nuclear weapons if it wants to.

Of course Iran could have chosen to invite the press to the ground-breaking of the Qom facility, to show everyone - especially Israeli air force planners - exactly how deep they were digging and how thick the concrete was, where the ventilation shafts were, etc. Now that's the sort of transparency "we" would love. Then "we" would know exactly where to bomb and what to bomb with.

That's how all the rest of the world builds nuclear facilities, right? With full transparency from day one, so all the world's terrorists know exactly how to get in and where to plant the bombs?

Of course Iran can conceivably one day produce a bomb with some of the technology it now has and the experts it has trained. But in the real world, the Qom facility isn't even enough to fuel one single reactor and there are light years of R&D between a 5% enrichment capability and an 80-90% enrichment capability needed for bombs.

Hans Blix can be excused for his mealy-mouthed white lies, however, seeing where telling the truth got him last time and the fat lot of good it did. He doesn't want to lose his current job as well and be on Obama's shit list on top of George Bush's merely to go down in history as a good guy. Iran will be bombed whatever he says, that much he's learned from experience.

I'm not saying this because I'm pro-Iran - I hate the dirty little ayatollah bastards - or even because I'm against any military action against Iran, which richly deserves to be put in its place for de facto annexing Iraq, threatening the Gulf, and helping the Israeli Likud party sabotage peace by backing Hamas and deploying medium-range missiles in Lebanon. But the medieval corrupt ayatollahs are nowhere near making a nuclear weapon of any shape or form and we should refused to be fooled yet again by the Likud representative in the White House and the State Department, who are preparing for war with a completely different agenda than the one being peddled to us by the Indy and the rest of the yellow press.

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