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Robert Fisk: Even I question the 'truth' about 9/11

Each time I lecture abroad on the Middle East, there is always someone in the audience – just one – whom I call the "raver". Apologies here to all the men and women who come to my talks with bright and pertinent questions – often quite humbling ones for me as a journalist – and which show that they understand the Middle East tragedy a lot better than the journalists who report it. But the "raver" is real. He has turned up in corporeal form in Stockholm and in Oxford, in Sao Paulo and in Yerevan, in Cairo, in Los Angeles and, in female form, in Barcelona. No matter the country, there will always be a "raver".

His – or her – question goes like this. Why, if you believe you're a free journalist, don't you report what you really know about 9/11? Why don't you tell the truth – that the Bush administration (or the CIA or Mossad, you name it) blew up the twin towers? Why don't you reveal the secrets behind 9/11? The assumption in each case is that Fisk knows – that Fisk has an absolute concrete, copper-bottomed fact-filled desk containing final proof of what "all the world knows" (that usually is the phrase) – who destroyed the twin towers. Sometimes the "raver" is clearly distressed. One man in Cork screamed his question at me, and then – the moment I suggested that his version of the plot was a bit odd – left the hall, shouting abuse and kicking over chairs.

Usually, I have tried to tell the "truth"; that while there are unanswered questions about 9/11, I am the Middle East correspondent of The Independent, not the conspiracy correspondent; that I have quite enough real plots on my hands in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Iran, the Gulf, etc, to worry about imaginary ones in Manhattan. My final argument – a clincher, in my view – is that the Bush administration has screwed up everything – militarily, politically diplomatically – it has tried to do in the Middle East; so how on earth could it successfully bring off the international crimes against humanity in the United States on 11 September 2001?

Well, I still hold to that view. Any military which can claim – as the Americans did two days ago – that al-Qa'ida is on the run is not capable of carrying out anything on the scale of 9/11. "We disrupted al-Qa'ida, causing them to run," Colonel David Sutherland said of the preposterously code-named "Operation Lightning Hammer" in Iraq's Diyala province. "Their fear of facing our forces proves the terrorists know there is no safe haven for them." And more of the same, all of it untrue.

Within hours, al-Qa'ida attacked Baquba in battalion strength and slaughtered all the local sheikhs who had thrown in their hand with the Americans. It reminds me of Vietnam, the war which George Bush watched from the skies over Texas – which may account for why he this week mixed up the end of the Vietnam war with the genocide in a different country called Cambodia, whose population was eventually rescued by the same Vietnamese whom Mr Bush's more courageous colleagues had been fighting all along.

But – here we go. I am increasingly troubled at the inconsistencies in the official narrative of 9/11. It's not just the obvious non sequiturs: where are the aircraft parts (engines, etc) from the attack on the Pentagon? Why have the officials involved in the United 93 flight (which crashed in Pennsylvania) been muzzled? Why did flight 93's debris spread over miles when it was supposed to have crashed in one piece in a field? Again, I'm not talking about the crazed "research" of David Icke's Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster – which should send any sane man back to reading the telephone directory.

I am talking about scientific issues. If it is true, for example, that kerosene burns at 820C under optimum conditions, how come the steel beams of the twin towers – whose melting point is supposed to be about 1,480C – would snap through at the same time? (They collapsed in 8.1 and 10 seconds.) What about the third tower – the so-called World Trade Centre Building 7 (or the Salmon Brothers Building) – which collapsed in 6.6 seconds in its own footprint at 5.20pm on 11 September? Why did it so neatly fall to the ground when no aircraft had hit it? The American National Institute of Standards and Technology was instructed to analyse the cause of the destruction of all three buildings. They have not yet reported on WTC 7. Two prominent American professors of mechanical engineering – very definitely not in the "raver" bracket – are now legally challenging the terms of reference of this final report on the grounds that it could be "fraudulent or deceptive".

Journalistically, there were many odd things about 9/11. Initial reports of reporters that they heard "explosions" in the towers – which could well have been the beams cracking – are easy to dismiss. Less so the report that the body of a female air crew member was found in a Manhattan street with her hands bound. OK, so let's claim that was just hearsay reporting at the time, just as the CIA's list of Arab suicide-hijackers, which included three men who were – and still are – very much alive and living in the Middle East, was an initial intelligence error.

But what about the weird letter allegedly written by Mohamed Atta, the Egyptian hijacker-murderer with the spooky face, whose "Islamic" advice to his gruesome comrades – released by the CIA – mystified every Muslim friend I know in the Middle East? Atta mentioned his family – which no Muslim, however ill-taught, would be likely to include in such a prayer. He reminds his comrades-in-murder to say the first Muslim prayer of the day and then goes on to quote from it. But no Muslim would need such a reminder – let alone expect the text of the "Fajr" prayer to be included in Atta's letter.

Let me repeat. I am not a conspiracy theorist. Spare me the ravers. Spare me the plots. But like everyone else, I would like to know the full story of 9/11, not least because it was the trigger for the whole lunatic, meretricious "war on terror" which has led us to disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan and in much of the Middle East. Bush's happily departed adviser Karl Rove once said that "we're an empire now – we create our own reality". True? At least tell us. It would stop people kicking over chairs.

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Fisk & 9/11
[info]tothejournos wrote:
Monday, 24 August 2009 at 10:35 am (UTC)
Yes Fisk made what amounts to, considering the glaring anomalies staring the world in the face, some feeble bleats from the side lines about "questions" he may have concerning the official account of 9/11. Well Robert; here’s one to get you started – Q: "How does an entire Boeing international airliner fit into a five meter hole?" . . . that’s just one among many questions the answers to which are obvious to anyone with an I.Q. anywhere north of a golf ball.

If these guys, Fisk and the like, are concerned about having their heads blown off if they raise them above the parapet that is understandable - but to actively rubbish and scupper those who are trying to get the glaringly evident truth out to a population increasingly living under a “Terrorist” inspired Fascist state is unacceptable and inexcusable.

Pilger, Fisk, Moore, Chomsky, Aziz, Goodman and the rest, on the subject of 9/11 and False-Flag operations, are party to one of the most obscene derelictions of duty ever observed in the field of journalism.

9/11 is probably the biggest open goal ever left by Fascists and one which if properly addressed could actually bring down the whole edifice and take the pressure off millions languishing under the product of a vicious con-trick. And who is attacking this open goal? Is it the big beasts of righteous journalism? Is it the big hitters? Is it the world renowned professional Truth-Tellers? No – it is a citizen’s grass-roots movement telling it; it is they who are exposing the crime, it is they who are stepping up to the plate. And all the while it is often the very same big beasts of righteous journalism who are stabbing those citizens in the back. Their silence about 9/11 is deafening and their cowardice monumental.
Robert Fisk: Even I question the 'truth' about 9/11
[info]famulla wrote:
Monday, 24 August 2009 at 05:39 pm (UTC)
AND the answer is same Back to square number 1 Have you played snakes and ladder and all the time your dice rolls on the snake, Bad Eh? IT IS ALL HUSH HUSH IT NVER TOOK PLACE ONLY THE TOWER BLEWS AND SOME STAFF SCARIFIED THE LIVES LIKE TALIBANS blown GO MAN GO MAMGO
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Robert Fisk: Even I question the 'truth' about 9/11
[info]famulla wrote:
Monday, 24 August 2009 at 05:41 pm (UTC)
AND the answer is same Back to square number 1 Have you played snakes and ladder and all the time your dice rolls on the snake, Bad Eh? IT IS ALL HUSH HUSH IT NVER TOOK PLACE ONLY THE TOWER BLEWS AND SOME STAFF SCARIFIED THE LIVES LIKE TALIBANS blown GO MAN GO MAMGO
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla
Fisk, have you gone stark raving bonkers?
[info]fin_d_empire wrote:
Tuesday, 25 August 2009 at 07:01 am (UTC)
Or are you so depressed about your Hezbollah-bashing lies that you're trying to commit career suicide by hitching your wagon to conspiracy nutters like Thierry Meyssan?
where are the aircraft parts (engines, etc) from the attack on the Pentagon?


That's not a roulette wheel from Rumsfeld's secret underground casino, Fisky, that's a 757 engine part.


There it is again.


And there's the wheel.

Now be a good professor and read up before you spout more nonsense:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0290.shtml

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

The official 9-11 Pentagon story is as dodgy as a subprime loan, starting with how the hell NORAD couldn't stop a plane they knew was hijacked for an hour and a half before it entered restricted DC airspace, headed for the White House, then took a sharp turn and punctured the Pentagon. How the hell is Hani Hanjour, a guy who his flight instructors say couldn't fly a single-engine Cessna straight, manage to do fighter-ace-style moves with a 757, doing a 270-degree corkscrew dive from 7000 feet to lamppost-clipping height, managing not only to pull out of the almost impossible (for a jetliner) dive with all the alarms blaring in his ears, but holding the damn thing straight and level doing over 500 mph and aiming it right smack at the only portion of the Pentagon that had just been blast-reinforced, was still mostly empty due to the renovations, and was furthest removed from Rummy's office.

You want weird and improbable, that's weird and impobable. That crap you lazily picked up from the net is just stupid.
Re: Fisk, have you gone stark raving bonkers?
[info]gooner76 wrote:
Wednesday, 2 September 2009 at 02:12 pm (UTC)
"That's not a roulette wheel from Rumsfeld's secret underground casino, Fisky, that's a 757 engine part."

Actually Rolls-Royce, who produce the engine for the 757 (Pratt + Whitney supplied the engines for TWA, but were retired after the takeover, since the RB211 was more efficient) categorically denied that this engine part came from their engine. They released detailed documents, which are publicy available, which demonstrate their claim.

So maybe you should take some of your own advice, and do better reseearch.
Re: Fisk, have you gone stark raving bonkers?
[info]derekcolman wrote:
Sunday, 13 September 2009 at 07:08 pm (UTC)
I believe that wheel is also somewhat smaller than a 757 wheel.
9-11 may be sound, but 7-7?
[info]jimmy_hick wrote:
Sunday, 30 August 2009 at 02:37 am (UTC)
Its worth having a look at the "conspiracy" theories behind the london bombings, they seem to leave a lot more questions than answers. keep up the great journalism Mr Fisk. peace

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