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Editor-At-Large: Equal in the eyes of God? Not in the Church of England

The howls of protest from conservatives that greeted the vote to allow women bishops contradict Christian teaching

Janet Street-Porter
Sunday, 13 July 2008

Why do so many pious men, who profess to be working in the name of God, hate women so much? In their so-called "inclusive" church, we're welcome to participate as long as we stick to playing the organ, arranging the flowers, putting the kettle on for tea and making sandwiches.

We may even be allowed to join the priesthood, if we're lucky enough to find a sympathetic bishop. But if someone with a vagina demands full equality in the Church of England, then grown men burst into tears and start wailing.

This was the incredible scene at the General Synod last week, when after debating the matter for six hours, after years of pathetic dithering, a motion was finally passed beginning the process of allowing women to be consecrated as bishops in the Church of England.

The result? More than 1,300 male clergy threatened to resign.

At a conference in Jerusalem last month a breakaway group of clerics opposed to female bishops and same-sex blessings formed the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans.

This could be the first step in the disintegration of our national church, mirroring the events that led to the creation of the Church of England in the first place, when, led by Henry VIII it broke away from the Roman Catholic Church.

Should we care what contorted antics pass for modern debate in a church most of us only occasionally make use of, for weddings, christenings and funerals? After all, if any other organisation in Britain did not give women full equality of opportunity, they would be taken to an industrial tribunal. Yet this mob use the name of God to perpetrate a clear injustice – who said that religion causes more divisions than anything else?

Many churches around the world – in the US, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Scotland – have already decided to have female bishops. The Episcopal Church of America is led by a woman. With dwindling attendances and empty pews, the Church of England desperately needs to connect with the public, to forge a meaningful role for itself in a country where young people need role models, where many parents need guidelines and support.

There is so much work to do. Instead, the church ties itself up in knots over the role of women and whether or not same-sex unions can be blessed in church. (Answer: not officially, and when two male priests had their union blessed at an historic church in London recently there was uproar). Talk about turning your back on the job you're allegedly supposed to be put on earth to do – love and cherish everyone, regardless of their shortcomings.

This week the Archbishop of Canterbury hosts the important Lambeth conference for more than 800 bishops, a 10-yearly event. Hundreds more arch-conservatives, mainly from Africa, Asia and South America, plan to boycott this opportunity for prayer and reconciliation. The Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali, is sulking at home. It's enough to make me weep.

I realise that right-wing churches around the globe might be full to bursting with hymn-singing parishioners but that does not mean that their pedantic interpretation of the scriptures and their anti-gay stance is appropriate for the broad mass of people in Britain.

We need a church to respond to our society and reflect our values. How can we talk about treating all religions with respect, if a large group of clerics in our own Church of England want to treat women and gays as second-class citizens? I thought Jesus said everyone was equal in the eyes of God – but it turns out that some people are more welcome at the inn than others.

I told you so, months ago – bad kids have bad parents

Talk about stating the obvious. I've said it before and I'll say it again – the cause of teenage anti-social behaviour lies with parents who don't set boundaries or impose rules. Guess who's just agreed with me? The man chosen to lead a task force on discipline, Sir Alan Steer, who publishes a report tomorrow outlining proposals to tackle the rise in violence among the young.

Changing the current mindset will be a slow process. Last week four young men died from stabbings in London alone – and the Mayor wants anyone carrying a knife to be jailed. Sir Alan states that "greedy and rude adults" are poor role models who have a negative effect on children. He wants parents to get more involved in their offspring's schooling and behaviour management.

Exactly what I wrote months ago. Send parents back to school. You didn't need months of consultation to work that out.

Gehry socks it to Kapoor

Can a sculpture or a building regenerate an area? Success stories include Gormley's Angel of the North in Gateshead and Gehry's Guggenheim Museum, in Bilbao. Five massive art works have been commissioned for the Tees Valley, but I doubt the monumental mesh tube by Anish Kapoor will add to my enjoyment of Middlesbrough. OK, it's the largest sculpture in the world, but it looks like a windsock to me. Gehry's first work in England opens this week, a temporary pavilion in Hyde Park – it's a mad confection of colliding sheets of glass and whirlwind timbers. Idiosyncratic, elegant, chaotic. Kapoor's big idea looks clunky in comparison.

Prezza and Fergie: TV faces we can do without

I'm all for giving raw talent a chance to shine, but I draw the line at John Prescott. For some reason, politicians seem particularly keen to showcase their talents on the telly – Ann Widdecombe and Michael Portillo have been surprise hits as telly presenters, and David Blunkett stars in a programme about youth crime. But Prezza? The man speaks a mangled language few earthlings can decipher. The man whose life story even best-selling author Hunter Davies couldn't make saleable.

But nothing must stand in the way of Prezza's wonderfully optimistic belief in his own abilities, and now the BBC is paying him £15,000 to present a documentary about class in Britain. We know Prescott enjoyed the good life in his lavish grace-and-favour pile, Dorneywood. But what other qualifications, apart from having a common background does he have? He's probably been inspired by the success of the appalling film about fatties shot in his home town of Hull, fronted by her royal hopelessness, the Duchess of York. ITV have now signed her up to tell us about orphans in Romania. Can't wait.

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Why do so many pious men, who profess to be working in the name of God, hate women so much?

Maybe they have the Anti-christ spirit. Maybe they don't hate you, but have insight you don't appreciate. The callings of God are still extant—not everyone with access to them loves others as Christ commanded. The evidence of the Church is that they love one another. If you yourself, and the women looking to these men for a role, want to serve as real saints, fall on the Rock. Look for the fruit of the Spirit. Do you love them as brothers? If not, and you believe they hate you, find a way to leave.

There are many better examples of piety than these--Louis IX of France, for instance, and many others who denied themselves, eschewed selfish worldly advantage and actually cared about the basic needs of others. Why don't you do the same?

Posted by mariah | 15.07.08, 22:01 GMT

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If we "ban all religion", "womynism" will also be banned, because it is also a system of BELIEFS.
One of the fundamental beliefs of "womynism" is that "gender is assigned, like a role - it is not innate".
"Womyn, being ABSOLUTELY equal to men, can do ANYTHING men can do - even if it involves physical strength - but men can't give births and murder children while they're in the womb, like we womyn can... The fact that we can't get pregnant without men in the first place is... Irrelevant."
So, by banning all religion, we'd have to ban "womynism" -
and we CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT THAT, now do we ? :)

Posted by Ivan | 14.07.08, 15:36 GMT

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Grow up Ivan! Your rantings are pathetic, childish and you should be embarrassed. Utter drivel!

Posted by Ban All Religion | 14.07.08, 14:00 GMT

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Ivan. Stop talking drivel, get yourself a life and if necessary a job. Your god doesn't exist and never has. He was the creation of weak men as a means of gaining power over those with the strongest sword arm but of lesser intelligence.

Posted by flipped | 14.07.08, 13:17 GMT

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If God kept proving Himself to us every day - NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DARE SIN - because everyone would be AWARE of the presence of God. And everyone would SEEM "righteous", "obedient" and "good".

After the first revolt, when Lucifer corrupted other angels and pulled them with him in his banishment/fall from the Kingdom of God - God doesn't want any of that AGAIN. That's why He NEEDS to TEST all of us - and we need to PROVE that our nature is immune to the influence/offers of the Devil.

As I said, God is like a parent who is pretending He is away, and He makes it look as if He won't be returning - just because He wants to see whether His children will abide by His Instructions, and whether or not they will respect His parenthood/authority/love that He has for them, and whether SOME children will be CORRUPTED by other children - that's why He permits the "evangelical atheists", "anti-theists", the Dawkinses, Hitchenses and the likes to exist, and to do what they're doing.

Posted by Ivan | 14.07.08, 13:02 GMT

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"They are from books written by men, for men and to justify the actions of men to the exclusion of all others." - This is another BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE SPIRIT, because those "mysoginistic" men were inspired by the Holy Spirit.
If You think that "the books of the Bible were written to justify the actions of men",then You inevitably BLASPHEME against the Spirit-accusing God of some "intended, planned discrimination".

"When the likes of you can come up with scientific proof" - God manifests Himself,but not to everyone.Only to those who cleanse themselves enough,and become worthy of Manifestation.

If God made it his full-time job to keep proving Himself to everyone,then FAITH WOULDN'T EXIST.
No one would BELIEVE there is a Righteous, Loving God - because everyone would K-N-O-W there is, because He keeps proving His existence and interest in us.
God is like a parent who PRETENDS he is "away on a trip" - because He wants to see how his children will behave, left all-alone at home.

Posted by Ivan | 14.07.08, 12:52 GMT

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Tell me Ivan, exactly what are you biblical quotations meant to prove? They are from books written by men, for men and to justify the actions of men to the exclusion of all others. They do not in any way constitute proof of a god or any deity, only the existance of the christian religion.

When the likes of you can come up with scientific proof of a higher being who created the universe then I will listen to you but as that is highly unlikely I won't hold my breath waiting for it.

Posted by flipped | 14.07.08, 12:36 GMT

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The church should lead people to God - that is why Jesus instituted it in the first place. The Anglican church does not lead. It is a spiritual reflection of society. Jesus came to change society not to condone it - that is why they killed Him. Sex between 10 to 16 year olds is condoned by sections of our society - contraception and abortion (morning after pill) is freely available to them. At some stage society as a whole will condone it and the Anglican church will eventally endorse it for the same reason the it condones practising gay bishops. Anglican clergy who do not agree with women priests or homosexual relationships between bishops will just have to leave the church - the church has moved away from what they believe in and no longer represents them. No problem.

Posted by Bill | 13.07.08, 22:58 GMT

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"Scientists at the University of Arizona's Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) lab in Tucson, Ariz., have radiocarbon dated an ancient Coptic manuscript containing the only known surviving Gospel of Judas at between A.D. 220 and A.D. 340."

Source: uanews.org/node/12176

The gnostic "gospel" of Phillip (the one with the famous "kiss on the...hole in parchment")
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip

Date ca. 180-350 AD

CANONICAL Gospel of Mark: late sixties
CANONICAL Gospel of Matthew: circa 70 A.D.

Posted by Ivan | 13.07.08, 22:44 GMT

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"Also there are around 35 to 40 gospels and few of them actually agree" - In some of those "bullsh1ticall" "gospels", Jesus uses magical powers to strike his playmates dead,when he loses in a game.(of marbles,perhaps)
THAT'S WHAT KIND OF "GOSPELS" THOSE ARE.Nonsensical gnostic mumbo-jumbo.

As far as the famous "kiss on the mouth" between Jesus and St. Mary Magdalene-EVEN if we take that gnostic "gospel" seriously,the word "MOUTH" ISN'T ACTUALLY WRITTEN ANYWHERE.
There's a HOLE in that very place,so the famous "kissing on the mouth" between Jesus and Mary Magdalene,IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FANTASY OF THE "SCHOLARS" WHO SAY "the word mouth fits perfectly in the space where the hole in the parchment is - so it's WE THINK it was on the mouth".

I said, that's if we take that GNOSTIC gospel seriously IN THE FIRST PLACE.

By way of radiocarbon dating,the gnostic "gospels" have been reliably dated to AT LEAST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YEARS AFTER CHRIST. Much LATER than the REAL 4 Gospels.

Posted by Ivan | 13.07.08, 22:34 GMT

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