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Joan Bakewell: I granted Mary Whitehouse the freedom to protest

Friday, 30 May 2008

I was one of the last to be threatened with prosecution. It was over a gay poem over which Mary Whitehouse successfully prosecuted in 1977 and which I quoted from in my 2001 BBC2 series Taboo. You can't talk about the history of taboos without... er... quoting examples.

In the late 1970s, the verdict was guilty, and the editor of Gay News, in which the poem appeared, was sentenced to a nine-month suspended prison sentence. But in 2001 my offence never came to court.

By the 1980s Mrs Whitehouse was running out of steam. But this week she stormed back with a charming and generous play on BBC television... the very institution that had banned her from its programmes. I visited her in her last days, in a very comfy old people's home. She reminisced about what a struggle it had been, rather like an old warrior showing his scars and recalling battles long ago.

I had been part of those battles, presenting Late Night Line-Up, a daily talk show that fearlessly confronted all the taboos of the day – issues like abortion, divorce, homosexuality... and Mary Whitehouse! Strangely also this week – on Bank Holiday Monday – the BBC ran an entire evening on the Parliament Channel called "The Permissive Night", where, for the first time in 36 years, I chaired a Late Night Line-Up discussion about whether the 1960s' legacy was good or bad. It demonstrated what today's television is missing: almost an hour of intelligent conversation with divergent opinions heard and challenged.

Mrs Whitehouse was a Sixties phenomenon, far more fiercely dogmatic than the kindly figure portrayed on film by Julie Walters. She was a proud woman convinced that her own opinions were unassailable, that she had God on her side. She mobilised support through the network of parish churches whose large congregations responded to her populist outrage. Now one or two are beginning to think she may have been right after all. But the churches are empty.

Early on in his confrontations with her, the BBC's then director-general, Sir Hugh Carleton Greene, had issued an instruction throughout the BBC that no one was to give her airtime. He had ushered in the cheekily disrespectful That Was The Week That Was, which went hammer and tongues after all the petty hypocrisies and contradictions of political life. Young audiences yelped with glee; older viewers knew things would never be the same again. Mrs Whitehouse became their self-appointed leader.

Late Night Line-Up considered Greene had been wrong to deny her a chance to speak. We decided we would defy his injunction. But we would do it wittily: we invited Mrs Whitehouse to review the new show opening at London's Roundhouse: Oh! Calcutta! As most of the cast were nude most of the time, she was bound to disapprove. She did, but nothing daunted she turned up and was given time to discuss her ideas. Unlike her or Greene, we didn't believe in censorship.

Her last battle came as late as 1980, when the play The Romans in Britain at the National Theatre featured a simulated rape of an ancient druid by the occupying Romans. For Mrs Whitehouse it was the sex that offended, not the fact that the whole thing was an allegory for British presence in Northern Ireland.

The legal system had long been unwilling to prosecute such matters because juries were unlikely to bring a guilty verdict. Mrs Whitehouse usually took out a private prosecution, backed by the fighting fund of her different organisations. Her glory days were over.

So was Mary Whitehouse right? Over sex I think she was wrong. Sex in the 1950s and 1960s was seen as secret and even dirty. It was the subject of rude jokes and rude postcards; nakedness, Barbara Windsor-style was cheeky and naughty. The consequences of sex – unwanted pregnancy, illegal abortion – were hushed up and kept in the shadows. Likewise unhappy marriages: easier divorce was opposed by those who wanted society to present a happy face to the world, to sustain the belief that all was well, and Christian families were the bedrock of society. There was no allowance for human misery. The truth is television in the Sixties stripped bare the illusion of all things being well. In doing so it created our more open, more truthful but more conflicted, society.

About violence she was right. We see too much of it. Fictional violence on our screens is now beyond the control of the watershed and the internet censors. The virus is out there and creating havoc among the aimless young. At the same time actual violence – natural catastrophes or man-made atrocities – is our daily news fare. Today's world is transformed from the comfy, limited place where Mrs Whitehouse could make her gentle protests. And there's no going back.

joan.bakewell@virgin.net

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For me Mrs Whitehouse was the original TINA (there is no alternative) long before Mrs Thatcher.

Mrs Whitehouse did not just rage against sex on TV, but against changing values and depiction of life as it was rather than the way she wanted it to be. In the 1960's there were some ground breaking dramas, the Wednesday Play being a leader. I vividly remember Cathy Come Home - if you saw it I doubt you would forget. It showed Britain as it was for some of its population, Mrs Whitehouse complained, it was not the Britain that never was where people did nice things and worked hard and nothing bad happened to them. Cathy fell on hard times and suffered and Mrs Whitehouse did not want us to see this.

Her son says she was a snob and cold, indeed they did not have any contact for 15 years. Her fervour for "moral decency" in the Whitehouse way was paramount.

Beware of zealot,

Posted by Chris Wigley | 30.05.08, 21:32 GMT

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Julia Parker - a lot of anger and weird stalking about me in your posts! It would be nice to read a comment from you that didn't involve you slagging me off or telling lies about me or stalking me!

Agree with most of what you say Andrew. This TV drama thought it was SOOOOO clever ha ha ha. It wasn't. It was clunky and predictable and Sooooo BBC. They even got black people in it! In suburban 1950s midlands britain! But then Dr Who gets ethnic minorities into Agatha Chritie country house and Jane Austen adaptations... Soooo predictable.... Soooooo BBC middle class jolly hockey sticks takeover! I preferred upper class men like Greene.

Posted by Eddie | 30.05.08, 17:59 GMT

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Julia - I think you are a bonkers mad woman, because you follow me round these boards like a stalker! If you were a man, you'd prob'ly be arrested eh... (And please love, I know all about the media, so trust what I say eh about the female influence at the BBC and the side-lining of men?)

Posted by Eddie | 30.05.08, 17:52 GMT

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Interesting This Self appointed Guardian of of Our Morals never criticised The Most Pornographic Image I ever seen on TV.
The Excution in The Street By A French Officer of The Vietnamese
Man on the Six O`clock News.
Was it because Nobody Swore or Masturbated. It was just Violence
without Sex... and that was alright then.

Posted by Schol49 | 30.05.08, 17:23 GMT

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Eddie - again alot of anger about women in your comments! It would be nice to read a comment from you that doesn't show such anger and hatred in a predictably narrow minded way.

Posted by Julia Parker | 30.05.08, 13:49 GMT

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I liked the play, but it did not do this tough woman anything like justice. It was patronising and a good example of the way in which the London intelligensia condescend to those with whom they disagree. Let's all be amused at the little suburban nobody, shall we?

Mrs Whitehouse was always opinionated, often silly and I would not wish to return to her values, but looking at today's TV its pretty obvious that she had a point, although this was taken to an extreme.

A quick look at last nights offerings range from rubbish about the "hardest pubs in Britain" fronted by a cardboard tough guy from a soap opera, to variations on the 50 biggest bottoms in Britain and why I married my girlfriends, mothers gerbil, etc. Alright - I made the last two up, but I'm not exagerrating by much.

I do not feel challenged by such drivel Its not "in yer face", "edgy" or breaking any "final taboos". Its just a coloosal boring pile of sh**e produced cheaply by lazy gits and aimed at morons.

Posted by Andrew | 30.05.08, 13:05 GMT

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Eh? Why was my post removed? For saying that Joan is wrong to connect TV violence and violence on the streets? And speculating why muggers mug? Tell you one thing - violance will not be solved by sweeping the real issues under the carpet and refusing to debate them... No wonder Joan likes Mary Whitehouse - the media these days is just as censorious, just about different things.

Posted by Eddie | 30.05.08, 12:11 GMT

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'About violence she was right'. No she wasn't. The 'aimless young' do not go mugging and knifing because they watch Eastenders or The Soprana! Perhaps they do it because they are from unstable single parent families or have a non-british culture, yes. Do you think the nazis were violent because they watched flash gordon?

Wrong conculsion there Joan - and as silly as the argument that porn leads to rape. Two plus two does NOT equal twenty-two...

Posted by Eddie | 30.05.08, 12:04 GMT

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First, I think the TV drama on whitehouse was very disappointing - jokey, obviously written by a PC BBC woman, and generally too carry on for my tastes. All the men were buffoons of course, as is usual in BBC drama these days - the BBC is now run by middle class feminist PC wimmin, and certainly not talented men (or women, one may argue).

Second, I think that there is a middle way between a repressive taliban attitude to sex on the one hand - and the drunken, promiscous, divorce-looking, feminist mess we now have in the UK on the other - look at mainland europe, where families are much more stable. They have porn on TV every night too - but because their families are traditional and strong their children are much more well-balanced and happy. Sadly we just ape the americans in our mini monkey-house.

Posted by Eddie | 30.05.08, 10:20 GMT

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