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Expenses scandal

Mark Steel: Here's what filthy rich really means

One MP will have claimed for panda food, another for a Rembrandt

By now, Jacqui Smith's husband must be preparing a new apology that goes: "I am now TRULY sorry for fiddling porn films on expenses. What was I thinking of? Compared to the rest, I could have claimed for King Dong and Chesty Morgan to perform live on the lawn and not seemed out of place."

How do you top Douglas Hogg, who claimed £2,000 for the cost of clearing his moat? Presumably he thinks, "No politician can represent their constituents properly if they've got a dirty moat." Whenever there's a debate in Parliament about housing estates with squalid conditions, he must think, "Oh how dreadful, these poor blighters must make do with a communal moat."

Or Oliver Letwin, with his £2,000 claim for a pipe under a tennis court. Maybe this isn't the main issue, but why does a tennis court need a pipe under it anyway? Is he having Hawkeye installed? So he'll make a statement saying: "As a member of the Shadow Cabinet, I might be asked to entertain senior businessmen with a game of tennis, and if that was to end in a vicious fight over a disputed line call it would be highly damaging to Britain's interests."

And there's all the Hazel Blears types, who see nothing wrong in claiming that, on becoming an MP, they moved into a new residence in a litter bin, which meant the home they had been living in for 20 years was now their second home, and it was essential for their kids they employed a full-time snooker referee.

There's nothing that could now be surprising. By next week it will turn out one of them claimed for an original Rembrandt, insisting they lived under it as a second home. Another will have claimed for £20,000 of panda food, or a time machine, or £3,000 to have a light bulb changed by Elton John. David Davis, the Conservatives' former law and order spokesman, claimed £2,000 for mowing his paddocks. Maybe that's why he was so angry with teenage criminals – he was appalled by their lack of ambition. What he meant to say was: "These thugs should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of mugging people for a mobile phone they should grab them and say, 'Don't move, bruv, you're surrounded, innit. Now mow my paddock or I'll mash you up'."

And so many of these MPs have harrumphed with approval at the clampdowns on false claims for housing and invalidity benefits. They've gone along with campaigns such as "Rat on a rat" and "Benefit cheats, we're closing in". And then they object, as Luton's MP Margaret Moran did, that they had to claim for a house in Southampton (nowhere near her work) because "I can't do my job without somewhere to be with my family". So that's what to say if you're caught fiddling the dole. Tell the fraud officer you were saving up for a house in Southampton, because these days a house in Southampton is clearly a basic human necessity like toilet roll. Surely the Labour Party must set a target that by 2013 every family in Britain will have a house in Southampton.

But, of course, these people don't think they've done anything wrong because both parties now stand for the values of big business. Lord Peter Mandelson declared famously that New Labour was "relaxed about people being filthy rich". Politicians move in those circles. Their heroes are Murdoch, Branson and Berlusconi. They inhabit a world of clean moats and mowed paddocks. Bit by bit, I get the impression the way this country is run is not quite right.

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Democracy
[info]joshuacohen2003 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 07:46 am (UTC)
Is this the democracy that we're exporting all over the world? We can surely teach the mildy corrupt governments around the world a thing or two on how to really make corruption work at every level of the government.
This is nothing more than a damage limitation exercise - and these allegations would never have been relevaled ahead of a general election. No one cares a great deal about the Euro elections so they decided to "leak" this information now, because it would've come out sooner or later anyway.
What kind of example does this set to benefit cheats and VAT scammers?

Well if I'm honest, a great number of us knew the government was corrupt, but we didn't know how to prive it - this is just a tiny example of what they're up to - I'm sure there are many, many other things the MP's etc get up to that we know nothing of.
Re: Democracy
[info]ebbi581 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC)
sorry my friend this is not democracy but definitely is the new world order !!!! deception,corruption and sleaze !!!!
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Re: Democracy
[info]obrotha wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:51 pm (UTC)
Spot on! This amoral behaviour from politicians whether they know it or not is part of a wider New World Order strategy. MPs are operating within a system that allows them to make easy money via expenses. This manipulates the public into believing, quite rightly, that MPs are becoming more and more corruptible. Our continuing dissolution and anger will turn us away from politicians. Their behaviour will be used as part of a wider tactic to introduce: One World Government. Step forward the UN - one of many New World Order organisations. Please DO NOT take my world for it, do the research.

Virtually every major issue facing humanity has been sold to us as a global problem that needs a global solution: global warming, global recession, global terrorism etc.

Wake up people!
[info]gcanho123 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC)
This is just a drop in the ocean compared to here in Portugal where the Prime Minister is said to have bought his own university degree (which he has not denied) & is now in the middle of a scandal about fraudulently obtaining planning persimssion to build a massive shopping complex! It happens everywhere.
[info]themartindale wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:52 am (UTC)
...but that still doesn't make it right.
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Relaxed About the Filthy Rich
[info]virginia_1976 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:13 am (UTC)
Presumably, they're also relaxed about the abject poor, laid back about people being laid off from jobs, chilled out about homes being repossessed ... as long as their asses are covered. This has more than just an air of 'let them eat cake.' My husband retired last year from working 30 years in Cabinet Private Office, since straight out of uni. He's seen them all come and go. His take on politicians is that they are w*a*n*k*e*r*s of the first degree, pigs with their snouts in the trough sucking off one another, and who think their constituents are more than mild annoyances which they have to suffer. As long as they feather their nests with the proceeds of the people, the masses be damned.

You really DO get the government you deserve. Maggie Thatcher made you greedy and gave you greed-mongerers as your rulers.
Re: Relaxed About the Filthy Rich
[info]dydor wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:54 am (UTC)
Exactly! She delivered shit. A grateful nation thanked her for shinola.
expenses and smokescreens
[info]jcscotuk wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:13 am (UTC)
it is all very well getting upset about the venal, possibly illegal and certainly immoral way our politicians bend rules to suit themselves. However this provides a very convenient smokescreen to keep more important matters off the front pages , bank bail outs, the whole PFI fiasco,Trident and various failed IT projects incuding ID cards to name but a few.

These policies appear to driven by the need of this government ( and the previous one and probably the next) to provide massive profits to big business at the taxpayer's expense. Abandonment of these policies should go a long way to balancing the books. Compared to the billions wasted in this wayM.P.s expanses are chickenfeed.
Jonny come lately
[info]urban_genie wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:25 am (UTC)
I feel like those people who are into a minor band for ages and then suddenly everyone is their biggest fan. I've been annoyed and angry about MPs' expenses for ages, even getting on my local MP's back about it and now all of a sudden everyone's in on the act. Bah. I'll have to find something else to get worked up about. Any suggestions?
Re: Jonny come lately
[info]dydor wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC)
Bears fouling woodland footpaths?
Mark Steel
[info]daithai wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
You are so right but will the electorate vote with their feet next time round?.If we did anything of this kind we would land up in court,tried and jaied.
The british expats living in Australia, New Zealand and Thailand still have their state pensions frozen but have to pay UK TAXES. Why should we have to pay for these crooks to live in lavish lifestyles?.
Many expats living over here find it extremely difficult and cannot fathom out why they are treated so badly.
I would welcome the Independant to publish these facts and fight for our rights.

Please fight for us as many british expats are in dire need of your help.

With many thanks
Re: Mark Steel
[info]celticwelshman wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:22 pm (UTC)
"cannot fathom out why they are treated so badly.?" the answer is very simple, because they can. such is our take on democracy, no matter which way one looks at the democracy we endure, its very different to the real thing...yes I will readily agree that there are far worse things in this world that our particular brand of democracy, however, that being so, it does not mean the way any Brit, be s/he home based or expat is treated, right.
Too depressing to laugh
[info]kd001 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:53 am (UTC)
Another well written piece Mark and normally I would R0FL - but now this country is just so sordid and squalid I just feeling like crying
Good Pigs and Bad Pigs
[info]zansal wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 09:54 am (UTC)
There are no Good Pigs. Labour has spent the last 12 years trying to make us afraid of each other just to listen to their message.

They are now exposed as the Bad Pigs they are - only interested in absolute power and limitless expense accounts...

What really hurts is a "socialist" political party ought to know better than this. We expect the Tories to get up to filthy rich behaviour - that marks them out as Tories. But a Labour MP? They are supposed to be in power to prevent this kind of corruption - not make the problem much worse.
Re: Good Pigs and Bad Pigs
[info]bemjammin wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:03 pm (UTC)
Please let this be the last time I have to say this. NEW Labour are not in any way socialist!
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firing range !!!!
[info]ebbi581 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:10 am (UTC)
although i resent the political system in china but must admit they have a sound way of dealing with corrupt officials and that is the firing range !!!!!

Re: firing range !!!!
[info]theelectrician wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:42 pm (UTC)
That is only for the low level officials who didn't feed enough of a 'share' up to the higher level officials, or who were corrupt in such a way as to embarrass higher level officials.
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Expenses
[info]rogersbrother wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:34 am (UTC)
"both parties now stand for the values of big business."

Unlike the BNP
Re: Expenses
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 12:58 pm (UTC)
True, the BNP only represent the ignorant and the racist, not pig business.
Long live the ignorant and the racist!!

Go **** yourself.
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Parliament
[info]doomsdaybug wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
Parliament is irrevocably broken
No change in sight
[info]xyz07 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 10:59 am (UTC)
While the 30 year old pact between the financial masters and politicians remains in place we shall go on seeing the filthy rich having a ball while the rest of us work harder to just scrape by.
Corruption
[info]gongdonkey wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:19 am (UTC)
Like a previous poster, I wonder what is going on unabated behind this "screen". These people are devious in the extreme ( it goes with the territory) but "normal" activities go on as usual. So what are they pushing through on these "good days to bury bad news" ?
Douglas Hogg
[info]tomaustin wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:33 am (UTC)
"Douglas Hogg, who claimed 2,000 for the cost of clearing his moat"...

At first I was consumed with the requisite rage of anyone non-parliamentary at this.

But then, really, let's admit it: if one IS to consider ripping off the country, you have to give the guy 10 out of 10 for sheer unmitigated style. Or gall. Or effrontery. Whatever, it's almost admirable and even funny in its outright contempt for the rest of us...
Douglas Hogg's Expenses
[info]jossr12 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 11:59 am (UTC)
Since Douglas Hogg seems to think that the taxpayer should fund his country estate I think that it should be open to the public to visit. many people would doubtless be interested to view the moat in particular. The address is freely available on the web:

Kettlethorpe Hall
Kettlethorpe
LINCOLN
LN1 2LD

The Ordnance Survey shows that, conveniently, there is a public footpath right in front of the properrty to facilitate external viewing. Why not make a day out!
Re: Douglas Hogg's Expenses
[info]indypen wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:00 pm (UTC)
PISS IN HIS MOAT
OR A NICE FLOATING TURD
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DIY for the aristocracy
[info]hugofirst wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 12:35 pm (UTC)
Actually a clogged moat is no laughing matter.
Far worse than a squeaky drawbridge for instance which, I've always found, can be instantly remedied with candle wax from the great hall or dripping from a roasted pig.
Maybe the Daily Telegraph should run a "handy hints for the landed classes" column. It could save us all a fortune.
And they say today's politicians are out of touch.
Nice sign off Mr Steel, by the way.
Re: DIY for the aristocracy
[info]indypen wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:05 pm (UTC)
squeaky drawbridges are no laughing matter, but slipping portculises (or would that be portculli?) now thats a health and safety issue.
Election clincher
[info]bugsyb6 wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 12:50 pm (UTC)
Radio 4 was yesterday talking about David Cameron stealing a march on Labour by demanding Tory MPs repay unwarranted expenses. For me at least it is a victory for Labour - I mean claiming expenses for your moat of for undersoil heating for your tennis court is just preposterous.....I can find no common bond with these people....but Jacqui Smith's husband.....you can see where he was coming from....a warm spring evening, nothing decent on the TV, he was wearing those roomy boxers of his and the 'On Demand' section just a press away.

I think it is hilarious that politicians have for years talked about scrounging of the state and er....they have been doing it unchallenged for years!
No doubt the story will soon disappear but perhaps in future MPs may just be slightly more circumspect about what they claim....or maybe not!

Labour's hypocrites top Hogg and Letwin
[info]catotheoldie wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:28 pm (UTC)
The hypocrites who came to power promising to be whiter than white and offering a Third Way in politics. The hypocrites currently led by son of the manse, moral compass bearer, visionary and conviction politician Gordon Brown. The hypocrites who manipulated the second and in some cases third homes allowance to build themselves a nice little property portfolio and/or nest-egg at the expense of the taxpayer.

Especially as these flipping hypocrites claim to be the champions of the poorer and vulnerable in society. Yes, these flipping Labour hypocrites easily put the couple of grand claimed by Tory grandees Hogg and Letwin in the shade, Mark Steel.
Re: Labour's hypocrites top Hogg and Letwin
[info]indypen wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
The party of the working man also abolished the 10p tax band, so with the stroke of a pen made them that much poorer. The third way was championed by that great national socialist adolf hitler, that tells you so much about these liberal facists.
The filthy rich
[info]billedmunds wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 02:08 pm (UTC)
It would seem that the Lunatics have taken over the asylum and the next lot are queuing up to replace them. Taxpayers on low salaries are now paying bonuses to incompetent and greedy Bankers and to members of the nobility for moat cleaning. Even Honest Dave claimed for the removal of Wisteria on his Stately Home. The sad thing is that the very rich don't believe in paying Tax for these items and feel that Tax evasion is a God-given duty so the burden falls on those of us stupid enough to not take advantage of Offshore Trusts in Tax Havens.
I do not understand any so I pass by telling them Good Morning sir.
[info]famulla wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 02:27 pm (UTC)
They send the clothes to laundry, abuse them of not cleaning these, and buy new ones from next shop. Te use toilet paper of yesterday today and tell the maids to clean the toilets clean.
They say the entire time stupid ass you and your ass. I do not know what these means as they drive fast in the Ferrari that has to pull out of the horse races. The rich send the races on the money. They eat diamond and beard with peanuts that are roasted in silver. They drink wine but they tell you they are broke. I do not understand any so I pass by telling them Good Morning sir.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
Feel it.
[info]terry_walpole wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC)
Nu Labor: ''If it isn't illegal then it isn't immoral.''

I saw Hazel Blears say that she knows that people hate the (expenses) system.

That's true but I wanted to shout at her ' ..and we hate you too Hazel!!''

I'm 43 years old and I've never felt such nerve sapping contempt and hatred as I do for this government in my life.

Probably because I've only ever voted for Labour before.
Re: Feel it.
[info]misterfurious wrote:
Saturday, 16 May 2009 at 03:45 pm (UTC)
I just hope you'll not repeat your past mistakes. Even if you can't bring yourself to vote Tory, just don't vote Labour. Heck, write "None of the above" on your paper and "spoil" it. Just Don't vote Labour.
right and wrong
[info]whybothertovote wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 04:00 pm (UTC)
If the MP's haven't a clue on what is considered morally right and wrong to claim for what hope have they when they are voting on the bigger issues they are representing us on.
Toilet roll
[info]stevejones1234 wrote:
Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 10:27 am (UTC)
-----"a basic human necessity like toilet roll."

Since when was toilet roll a basic human necessity instead of a rather unhygienic and disgusting substitute for water.

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