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Sophie Heawood: Our police should behave better than we do

Another week, another revelation about police brutality. A second postmortem has shown it was internal bleeding, not a heart attack, that killed Ian Tomlinson after he was attacked by police at the G20 demo in London, and now there's footage of Nicola Fisher being struck by police at a vigil for him.

Of course, attacks on police happen too, and theirs is not a job I envy. I don't imagine that people sign up to the force with the lofty ambition of being a thug. But I have been going on demos all my life and the unpalatable truth is that these assaults are commonplace. The police used to film demonstrators, to identify the trouble-makers later. Now that it is so easy to own a videocamera, the demonstrators are filming them – and for exactly the same reason.

I was five when my parents first took me on a CND rally. I had never seen so many people all together in one place – it blew my tiny mind. There was something wonderful about being part of a group of people like this, walking down a street filled not with beeping cars but with cheering, happy humans.

Later I would march about the miners, the poll tax, the criminal justice Act, the Liverpool dockers, the Iraq war – all causes I believed in, but also a wonderful excuse to go outdoors with other humans and celebrate being alive.

Alas, it always turns. Perhaps it starts with a stupid protester throwing a bottle at a police horse, or shouting in an officer's face that he's a filthy pig, or worse. The police move in on you, and the danse macabre begins, as they form a human pen so you're left in no doubt that it's you, the protesters, who are the pigs. You are squashed against each other, unable to leave, even if you're desperate for a pee or a drink of water. A policeman starts shoving you, you beg him to stop, ask him for his number. He tells you to fuck off.

You see somebody on the floor bleeding from the head and an officer still seems to be kicking him and you don't know what's going on and you're jostled and powerless to stop it.

Earlier this year, on a London march for Gaza, the police routed marchers on Piccadilly into the dark car tunnel underneath Hyde Park Corner. Surprised by what we saw happening ahead, my friends and I jumped over the railings into the park to avoid it. We were the lucky ones – most couldn't escape and were forced down into the darkness in their thousands. They were then held down there for some time – I will never forget hearing the screaming.

When they finally emerged at the other side, teenagers came running over to me, asking if I was a journalist, could I help them, the police had held them down there and then let rip with their truncheons, they said. It was chaos and I felt useless.

And so I didn't join the G20 demo where Ian Tomlinson died, even though it was on my doorstep and I wanted to protest about the banks. I was too frightened of what the police would do, and of feeling too vulnerable to intervene. Sadly, my fears were warranted. And if a journalist – who has a better chance than most of raising a dissenting voice – is scared of the police, then what hope has anybody else got?

It is a grave error to believe that for a police force to be successful, it must be terrifying. It is not good enough to say that after a day of provocation, those officers had had enough. They need to be beyond reproach. They need to be better than us.

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Rioters Shpuld Stop Rioting
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 04:53 am (UTC)
do you expect the police to be handing out roses to rioters? No matter how you dress up the protesters a small minority are out to be violent. Climate Camp are exploiting the situation AS THE POLICE TACTICS ARE STOPPING THEM FROM DISRUPTING THE COUNTRY.

I do not support the actions of some officers but I certainly understand their frustration and the need the meet force with force.

Hopefully the various videos being studied will also identify those demonstrators who have over stepped the mark and will lead to their prosecution.
Re: Rioters Should Stop Rioting
[info]sunday1morning wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 07:41 am (UTC)
One day I hope that it is YOU or even better your daughter that is trying to get somewhere and gets caught up in a kettle.

How would you like to be herded into a tunnel and then beaten up?

Or forced to stay in the same place for hours with no food or water and forced to urinate in front of everyone else?

No one was rioting, there was one carefully staged episode (media opportunity) outside the RBS, if you look closely at all the photos, there are more cameramen than "rioters". Many at the G20 were office workers trapped after going out to get their lunch for heaven's sakes, not that that should make any difference.

Ian Tomlinson was just on his way home, and met a thug.

Yeah, maybe one day, Ian Tomlinson will be YOUR son or daughter. You will understand then. But it will be too late.
Re: Rioters Should Stop Rioting
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 08:28 am (UTC)
If I saw my daughter behave in the manner of that young lady I would be extremely annoyed. My children have been brought up to respect ALL people - shame others are not
Re: Rioters Should Stop Rioting
[info]sunday1morning wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 11:27 am (UTC)
Well one day it may well be you in that mortuary identifying her body, because she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and a murdering thug in uniform decided to take a crack at her.

I hope so, it's people like you that need to be taught the lesson of history, since you are clearly wifully blind as to what is going on.
As with the miners sack them, it's all they understand.
[info]proximaking wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 08:36 am (UTC)
You also miss a key point, they generally have riot gear or some form of body armour so they have even more reason to behave as they are pretty well protected. Sadly they will never be better than us because they are generally police for no other reason that they are unfit to do anything else, you don't need intelligence to be a cop. They are generally failures of one sort of another.

I remember when just before starting my final year of an honours degree I was taken aside by the guy who was the head of the electrical distribution systems in a small city, and he said I was a mug to carry on with engineering. I asked him why and he told me a story of a guy he had been to university with and who had scraped a third class degree and who then decided to join the police force as he couldn't cut it as an engineer. He rose to the top and was in charge in that same small city within 15 years and was earning twice what the engineering manager was getting as he was a genius amongst complete morons.

So I'll give the same advice, if you are in any way intelligent join the police and you'll be in charge within very short order. Ordinary people are kept out of the police force because they are repulsed by what they see going on, mindless thuggery, verbal abuse, things disappearing into the back of the police car at robberies, etc etc etc. Stalin used to put a communist representative along with every group of cops and maybe, sadly, it is time we did the same with our cops because you have seen what they get up to in reality as have I and every other normal person and they understand only one thing, being sacked with no pension rights. We should also bring back height restrictions and bring in intelligence restrictions, no short thickos need apply.
re; rioters shpuld (sic) stop rioting
[info]shergar999 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 08:40 am (UTC)
mike 4626 go over to the Sunday Telegraph it's where you belong
Rioters Shpuld Stop Rioting
[info]ukkiwi wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 10:23 am (UTC)
Unfortunately Mike 4626, in my experience, it is not the protesters that riot, but the Riot Police. I was at the protest at Whiteghall when George Bush had his "Farewell tour" and the riot police were definitely "uop for it". In fact, when they realised they were not going ot move us, they charged the crowd. The police generally cause a riot through their use of kettling and their inability to understand that it is the right of everyone in this country to peacefully protest. The people's democratic right to free speech and to peacefully protest under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which gives every individual freedom of belief, speech, association, freedom of press, right to hold assembly; this basic right is being eroded - how dare you say that we, who peacefully protest disrupt the country - people died for our right to vote - are you saying the Peterloo Massacre in 1819 was correct as those men were "DISRUPTING THE COUNTRY" Shame on you
The behaviour of the police and public
[info]westfjord wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 12:19 pm (UTC)
Generally, people who do not want to be attacked should stay away from demonstrations like those that took place in London during the G20 summit. If you don't, chances are that you will get knocked on the head, either by violent demonstrators or the police. That's life, plain and simple!
Why?
[info]francetta wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 01:25 pm (UTC)
I agree with what the article says, to some degree, but dont we also have to be realistic, re police behaviour too with regard to the following,
When I learned that the special branch of the London police, who seem to have caused most of the brutal behaviour, are most likely to be employed elsewhere as Bouncers at the clubs, well what else can we expect. I understand from a reliable source they are called by 'ordinary' every day coppers, as finger draggers, or words to that effect-- in other words, gorillas, if it wasnt so insulting to the animal! High on muscle, low on the brain area!
Yes, I know there will be exceptions, yet not too many I imagine.
[info]leewilson wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 01:37 pm (UTC)
Collective punishment is now the police's favoured method of crowd control.

Corral people - exercising their right to protest - into a penned off area, then wade in with batons and shields.

Fuck them, the violent pricks, and fuck the commanders who order this pointless and aggressive action, is really is of little help to a peaceful society to have it's police force rioting at predominately peaceful demonstrations.

It bears repeating - fuck these violent pricks.
Why do msm journalists always speculate on behalf of the authorities?
[info]forthestate wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 03:21 pm (UTC)
"Perhaps it starts with a stupid protester throwing a bottle at a police horse, or shouting in an officer's face that he's a filthy pig, or worse."

Perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it's completely unprovoked, as at Bishopsgate, or in the case of the assault on Mr Tomlinson.
slippery slope
[info]ross_glory wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 06:43 pm (UTC)
Every since some of the more 'up for it characters' from my school enrolled in the police cadets, I've always known there have been individuals in the police that were not trustworthy. But for many years I thought the system was basically sound. That changed about 5 years ago when my daughter got caught up the the Criminal 'Justice' System which was anything but just and ended up with a police caution for pushing a girl, in retaliation to a kick, in the playground (or rather being stupid enough to listen to her stupid dad and tell to the police about it).

When the system loses the trust of the vast majority of law-abiding individuals as it has lost mine, then it is in trouble. I believe the vast majority will accept the threat of climate change long before the state will be willing to implement significant change and therefore I believe we are heading for a rather unpleasant clash and the effects will ripple out further than just protests.

Imo, we need to get the police force and the criminal justice system back under control before it is too late, which means replacing this paranoid, obsessive and over-controlling govt for a start.
Protestors Are Not Rioters
[info]frankly_amazed wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 07:08 pm (UTC)
In response to Mike4626... I am happy for demonstrators to disrupt our Country, they have disrupted it far less than the banks have, and far less than this totally incompetent government have!

Clearly you did not read the article very well, or study any of the footage from G20, or study the Miner's Strike, or witness the police stealing the flags of some Sri Lankan protestors outside Parliament - the Police allow themselves to be used as a political weapon, a capitalist pawn if you like, when they suppress poeple's freedom of expression, the freedom to object, the freedom to speak what you believe! It is NOT that you may agree or not, it is NOT that we have to understand their message or their tactics - That IS the Essence of FREEDOM.

You may not realise that any officer that pushed, shoved, kicked, punched, or struck a person that was not acting violently towards them and was of no imminent threat BROKE THE LAW!

The Police (Conduct) Regulations 2008 - Statutory Instruments has 13 codes that a police officer must legally obey and at the G20 they broke 10 of ten of them. Here they are... read and be amazed...

Honesty and Integrity
Police officers are honest, act with integrity and do not compromise or abuse their position.

Authority, Respect and Courtesy
Police officers act with self-control and tolerance, treating members of the public and colleagues with respect and courtesy.
Police officers do not abuse their powers or authority and respect the rights of all individuals.

Equality and Diversity
Police officers act with fairness and impartiality. They do not discriminate unlawfully or unfairly.

Use of Force
Police officers only use force to the extent that it is necessary, proportionate and reasonable in all the circumstances.

Orders and Instructions
Police officers only give and carry out lawful orders and instructions.
Police officers abide by police regulations, force policies and lawful orders.

Duties and Responsibilities
Police officers are diligent in the exercise of their duties and responsibilities.

Confidentiality
Police officers treat information with respect and access or disclose it only in the proper course of police duties.

Fitness for Duty
Police officers when on duty or presenting themselves for duty are fit to carry out their responsibilities.

Discreditable Conduct
Police officers behave in a manner which does not discredit the police service or undermine public confidence in it, whether on or off duty.
Police officers report any action taken against them for a criminal offence, any conditions imposed on them by a court or the receipt of any penalty notice.

Challenging and Reporting Improper Conduct
Police officers report, challenge or take action against the conduct of colleagues which has fallen below the Standards of Professional Behaviour.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People are equally free to riot, to cause criminal damage and to be arrested and pay for their crime!
That is the job for the police, to obtain the evidence and catch the offender.

It is not the job of the police to assault, intimidate, push, shove or hit anybody just because they are exercising their freedom. This Government said that even though they could not find any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq, they were still correct to go to war because the people deserved to live in a free democracy - the outright hypocrasy is now apparent, the Iraqi people deserve to be 'more free' than us it seems!

If this is not stopped soon our police officers will wear black shirts and just shoot anyone they do not like the look of.
Evenin' all.
[info]gwilymr_j wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 07:43 pm (UTC)
The Spanish police get stuck in as do the French CRS and quite right too.
Kettling
[info]observer100 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 10:20 pm (UTC)
Kettling as a tactic needs to be reviewed. The name sums it up, it builds up pressure and the situation escalates. De-escalation should be the by-word.

A demonstration needs to be allowed to disperse. It should happen naturally. If not, some assistance in dividing groups and diverting them away from the centre makes far more sense.

While the practice of kettling continues there will be more and more confrontation. It was never intended to be used in the way it is, it can only succeed when those confined are then subsequently removed, such as in prison riots
[info]thomasth wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 10:20 pm (UTC)
Our Lords and Masters have got too used to shoving us from pillar to post like cattle, and they depend on fear to do it, so don't count on them backing down in a hurry - they won't.
fantasy land
[info]bassplayer74 wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 06:33 am (UTC)
Of course the police should ALWAYS behave "better than us" just like Doctors don't smoke or binge, teachers can all spell and think .... police officers are poorly led, I agree, but just because force was applied DOES NOT mean it is an assault. Of course, whether it was an assault is something that should only be concluded through a criminal investigation, not determined in the pages of a National newspaper, judge and jury being someone with an acknowledged bias to the anti-police, pro-protestor argument.

I've seen within this debate plenty of stuff which alarms me, which may yet be subject to legal proceedings. Let it takes its course, before people start arguing about 'fair trials' and prejudicial media coverage.

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