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The Big Question: Is swine flu mutating, and how worried should we be?

By Jeremy Laurance


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Why are we asking this now?

No parent can have read yesterday's headlines about the death of six-year-old Chloe Buckley from swine flu without a shudder. Teachers described the north London primary schoolgirl as "perfectly healthy" until she fell ill with a virus that her GP initially diagnosed as tonsillitis. Within 48 hours she was dead. Results of a post-mortem examination, which will confirm whether she had any underlying health problem, are awaited. A 64-year-old GP, Michael Day, from Bedfordshire, also died bringing the UK total of deaths to 17.

Does this mean the virus is becoming more severe?

No. The H1N1 swine flu virus is being intensively monitored around the world and there is no sign yet that it is mutating. That is to be expected. There is normally a period after a flu virus emerges when it continues to replicate and spread, before immunity to it grows (among those already infected) and it mutates into something else – which starts the cycle of infection all over again. Experts say that if deaths start occurring in clusters, that could be a warning sign that the virus is mutating into something more serious. For that reason all deaths should be scrutinised.

Why the disparity in people's reactions?

It is one of the many mysteries of flu. Some healthy individuals die each year from seasonal flu, while the majority of the population are only mildly affected, for reasons that are unexplained. Swine flu is so far causing only mild illness in the vast majority of people, but the most seriously affected have been predominantly young. Those with illnesses such as asthma, diabetes, and heart, liver or kidney disease and anyone with a suppressed immune system are more vulnerable. So are pregnant women – the growing foetus pressing on their diaphragm reduces their lung capacity and means if they get a respiratory infection it may be more serious. Obese people are also more vulnerable, possibly for the same reason. Of the UK's 17 deaths so far, at least 14 have been in people with underlying health problems.

Would these people have died anyway?

Probably not. Describing the victims as having underlying health problems conveys the impression that their deaths were unavoidable, even if they had not been infected. This is not the case. A person with asthma is vulnerable to flu because of their impaired lung function. But there is no reason why, if they can avoid the flu, they should not live a normal lifespan.

How many people have been affected in the UK?

The official tally is almost 10,000 cases confirmed by laboratory testing. But tens of thousands more, and probably hundreds of thousands, are estimated to have contracted the virus but not contacted their GP but dosed themselves with paracetamol and hot drinks at home. The Department of Health estimated that new cases were running at 8,000 a week and accelerating, with 100,000 cases a day predicted by the end of August. The age group most affected are children aged five to 14.

Is the death rate higher than for seasonal flu?

It is difficult to tell because there is a tendency in outbreaks of infectious disease to over-diagnose serious cases and deaths and underestimate the numbers infected (who may never contact their GP). Research published in Nature this week suggested that swine flu was nastier than ordinary seasonal flu, causing more lung damage in animals tested. Lung damage can lead to pneumonia, severe illness and death. A study published in Eurosurveillance last week concluded that the death rate was "relatively low... by historical standards". In an average year 4,000 to 12,000 mainly elderly people die from flu, and in an epidemic year that rises to 20,000 to 30,000. In the UK's last major epidemic in 1989-90, around 35,000 people died.

Will we all get swine flu?

No. Some people – the elderly – appear to have immunity against the virus, though it is not yet certain why. Having lived through previous seasonal epidemics and pandemics (in 1957 and 1968) they may have confronted a similar virus before and developed antibodies. Or it may be that the virus happens to have started spreading among younger groups and will reach the elderly later. The most serious illness has been in younger people. Current estimates are that 30 to 50 per cent of the population could be infected – compared with 10 per cent in an average seasonal flu year.

Is it unusual for flu to be spreading in the summer?

Yes. It hasn't happened for decades. Flu is a winter illness. The dampness and humidity in winter help the virus survive longer on surfaces like door handles so it can spread and people tend to mix more closely together in the colder, darker months. But swine flu has found the warm, dry days of summer no impediment, and has spread sooner than experts expected.

Why is the UK worse affected than other countries?

No one is sure. Heathrow is one of the world's major transport hubs, bringing travellers and their viruses from all over the world. The UK also has close links with North America, where swine flu began. The epidemic here may simply be more advanced than elsewhere, and other countries will catch up. Or it may be that we have more sophisticated surveillance systems and are better at tracking the spread of infection.

Is there a vaccine against swine flu?

Not yet, but it is on the way. The Government has ordered 130 million doses, enough to give a double dose – which will be necessary to induce immunity – to the whole population. First supplies are expected by the end of August, and enough vaccine to cover half the population is due by the end of the year. The remainder will be delivered in 2010. The Government will have to decide who is to receive the first doses. Children, the elderly, those with chronic illnesses, pregnant women and NHS frontline staff are likely to head the queue.

Is it a good idea to be vaccinated?

Probably, assuming it is safe and effective. Although swine flu is causing mild illness in most people now, most scientists think it will sooner or later mutate, possibly into a more virulent form. Experience in previous pandemics has shown that novel viruses may start by causing mild illness and end up causing more severe illness, two or even three years on. We could feel the effects of this pandemic for years to come and we don't yet know how severe it may turn out.

What else can we do?

Recognise the symptoms – sudden fever and sudden cough are typical of swine flu. Other symptoms may include headache, tiredness, aches and pains, diarrhoea, sore throat, sneezing, loss of appetite. Stay at home if you are infected and protect the vulnerable in your household by getting antiviral drugs – Tamiflu or Relenza – for them. Use a handkerchief to catch coughs and sneezes, wash your hands – a key transmitter of the virus – and clean surfaces such as door handles. Most people recover in a week, even without anti-viral medication.

Should we be afraid of swine flu?

Yes...

* Although it is causing mostly mild illness now, it could mutate and become more virulent

* It is spreading faster than expected and people with chronic conditions and pregnant women are at risk

* The most serious illness has been in younger people, unlike seasonal flu which is worse in the elderly

No...

* Most people infected with swine flu have suffered nothing worse than a brief fever and a cough

* There is no sign yet that it is mutating, and even if it does it may not cause more serious disease

* With anti-viral drugs and a vaccine on the way we are better prepared than for previous pandemics

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MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]drlizmiller wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 06:23 am (UTC)
Which would you rather have MRSA, or even Strep B or swine flu
It is time to put resources where they are needed
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 10:51 am (UTC)
Me, I am not worried at all about swine fraud,
http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html. What I am looking for is a legal excuse not to get jabbed with toxic muck designed to impair my immunity. Any ideas out there?
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]lexyboy wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 12:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, wear a tinfoil hat. You obviously sign up to any old conspiracy going. I blame the lizard folk. And the Jews. They're bound to be in on it, too.
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 01:02 pm (UTC)
Insults, bringing up `conspiracy theory`, and NOT discussing the reasons why the WHO and UN are beibg taken to court, identifies you as a paid misinformer/gatekeeper of big farma/mainstream medicine. You must try to discredit any alternative views on mainstream medicines/big farmas frauds to earn your sorrowful living.
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]mumof3york wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 10:46 pm (UTC)
Perhaps you should read the following report from the Sydney Herald before you start dismissing this virus.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/swine-flu-attacking-mothers-newborns-20090715-dlly.html

We have now had 'suspected swine flu' in my own home and it was a very mild flu, and we were very safe, but I am extremely concerned about its behaviour, especially in Sydney where it appears to be causing clusters of cytokene storms in healthy young adults (this is how the 1918 pandemic killed). It may be that the dreaded mutation has occurred in an area of Sydney.

Other evidence that we should not roll our eyes at swine flu is that survivors of the 1918 pandemic are immune to the current swine flu, but not immune to seasonal influenzas. This suggests that we are facing a very similar virus.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_sc/us_swine_flu_study

Please stop talking about conspiracies when there is evidence that people are dying and fighting for their lives. This is a matter of very real and increasing concern. Yes, it is very mild in the uk at this time, but at its current form, 65,000 UK deaths are predicted, nearly 10x the usual seasonal flu mortality. It is also affecting children especially badly, which would not normally be seen from a seasonal flu.

Forgive me, as a mother, for being anxious. I was laughing about all this last week.
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]tommytcg wrote:
Friday, 17 July 2009 at 01:16 am (UTC)
Then why have the Austrian police already taken action, and seized live virus. If you read the complaint, you will note that a farma company in Austria has been manufacturing the live virus, and already mailing it out. This virus is a man-made recombinant of three viruses,that cannot suddenly appear naturally. People die of influenza daily. What is the proof that they did not die of influenza, if the report has been corrupted. If they died of swine flu, wWhat was the vector for infection? Ccontaminated vaccine, chemtrails, other? Apart from your goodself, are there many/any who trust any statement these days from the lying government agencies, corrupt medical associations and greedy, cruel farma companies?
Re: MRSA or Swine Flu
[info]bobthekelpie wrote:
Friday, 17 July 2009 at 01:45 am (UTC)
I live in Sydney and read that article in the paper yesterday. Talking about Western Sydney is a bit like talking about Western London - it's georgraphically a very large, heavily populated area. There is no link so far between any of these pregnant women except that they have all ended up in the only decent hospital in the locality.
Swine-flu and swine
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 05:01 pm (UTC)

If pigs get swine flu from humans and then subsequently it's re-introduced back into humans, that's when its expected to get really bad. It's well known that humans and swine share virtually identical anatomy.

Those who handle live swine need to be very cautious during this outbreak to avoid this.
Re: Swine-flu and swine
[info]georgesign wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 04:05 pm (UTC)
Better not touch Tony Blair then.
Re: Swine-flu and swine
[info]mumof3york wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 11:04 pm (UTC)
This is my understanding too, in that pigs can be infected by avian flu and further alter the virus before passing it back to humans. Swine flu in itself its actually very common and very mild for humans. This flu is of concern because it all ready has an avian component. Avian flu is extremely dangerous for humans of course if it is expressed strongly enough.

Viruses also mutate in response to immunity in a population, which is why you can get a more lethal second wave. The first wave spreads through the population of humans, the humans develop immunity to it it and the virus then mutates into a new form.

This isn't an intelligent behaviour though. Viruses are not even living organisms. Its a selective advantage... a mutation occurs allowing a virus to once again infect humans and because it can, it replaces completely the viruses that can't.

I know too much, i think. I researched the Spanish influenza epidemic for a few years and have always dreaded a repeat scenario. It was so traumatic for people that there are very few written records. No-one wanted to write about it or talk about it afterwards. I hope and pray we don't see once again what they saw. We have antibiotics and antivirals now though, and intensive care beds, and hopefully that would help... but our better health would probably go against us... a strong immune system was lethal for Spanish flu victims.
Business sympathy?
[info]rhinocircus wrote:
Wednesday, 15 July 2009 at 07:32 pm (UTC)
Will businesses and the work place be sympathetic with their staff who stay home with these symptoms?
Will they advise their employees to see the doctor?
"It's crucial to understand that these vaccines are experimental, untested, toxic and dangerous..."
[info]spacepeace wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC)
"There's no pandemic. Yet WHO said the virus "is considered unstoppable," while admitting little evidence of spread so far, most cases are mild, and many people recover unaided."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14370
What a dangerous scam
[info]sottdotnetcool wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
What`s in the Vaccine


LIST OF VACCINE FILLERS: Officially administered by design with every vaccine provided to the public -

In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:
aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate,
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells

A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF RESISTANCE TO MANDATORY VACCINATIONS

We Freemen & Freewomen of the world, do not recognize the authority of The World Health Organization (WHO) to mandate general forced vaccinations. Our bodies are sovereign territory and subject to our exclusive self-determination. Any attempted violation of this trust must be construed as a breach of said basic right. We are thus holding our elected Governments accountable in this defense with an issuance of notice: a preemptive Class Action Lawsuit to be served in the event our inalienable rights to choose are forsaken.

There is no forensic evidence showing the H1N1 virus as the direct cause of death in those who have died after contracting the virus (144 to date). The majority of deaths are caused by pre-existing complications and auto-immune deficiencies. Countries with low quality of health have the greatest number of fatal cases. Based on the Center for Disease Control's own guidelines H1N1 related symptoms are virtually indistinguishable from those of the common seasonal flu, and severity is comparable to mild seasonal flu,

More information in greater detail can be found here and how to strengthen your immune system.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/a-universal-declaration-of-resistance-to-mandatory-vaccinations



Print out petitions to be signed and let your govt know you will not allow your being be put into danger for the profit of the Pharma industrys .
Re: What a dangerous scam
[info]robert_hardy wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 05:29 pm (UTC)
You state "Officially administered by design with every vaccine provided to the public". That is simply not true Some of these components may be in a particular vaccine but most will not be. For instance if you were unfortunately bitten by a rabid bat or dog, your only chance of survival if the virus took hold would be to have taken the human diploid cell vaccine, which surprise surprise will contain some residual human diploid cell culture materials. It wont contain chick materials or VERO or sheep red blood cells. Your post is dishonest and mischievous in intent. By all means debate the efficacy and safety of vaccination but not by spreading disinformation.
Re: What a dangerous scam
[info]sottdotnetcool wrote:
Thursday, 16 July 2009 at 07:04 pm (UTC)
The above is by no means disinformation and it is my hope that you followed the link which shows one how much do doos we are in. Of course if you wish to take YOUR chances with this coming vaccine this is of course your right to do so.

For those of us who have no faith or trust in world govt of today we also have a right to not put this poison into our systems.

Dont forget its the anniversary of the murder of Dr David Kelly tomorrow.
Re: What a dangerous scam
[info]joffa42 wrote:
Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 03:51 pm (UTC)
Since when did WHO make vaccine's mandatory ?

'No forensic evidence' ? Most deaths from any type of flu would be similarly not necessarily caused solely by flu. But if the fact is that if these people with underlying health problems hadnt caught the flu wold have lived surely immunising against it makes sense ?

Of course the symptoms are the same as seasonal flu - it is just another flu....

Chris
H1N1 WARRIOR
[info]h1n1warrior wrote:
Thursday, 17 September 2009 at 01:11 am (UTC)
There is something we can do help stop the spread

"SICK OF FEAR...Cast IT OUT''

H1N1WARRIOR.COM
Swine Flu
[info]santossh wrote:
Tuesday, 22 September 2009 at 11:00 am (UTC)
HEY, I read ur article its really informative and useful site. Ur article help, how to take care self against swine flu. Its request to pls keep it up....
I have some points on swine flu too...http://www.jiyohealthy.com/2009/08/swine-flu-rumors-in-india/ pls tell ur coments


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