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Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'

Lord Winston and 100 top academics reject 'pernicious' protest over Science Museum

By Arifa Akbar, Arts Correspondent

The event celebrating Israeli science is due to open today at the Science Museum

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The event celebrating Israeli science is due to open today at the Science Museum

More than 100 academics including some of the nation's most senior scientists have written a letter in response to "pernicious" calls for the Science Museum to cancel its Israel Science Day event today.

The strongly worded letter, signed by Professor Robert Winston and Baroness Susan Greenfield among others, accused those campaigning against the event of "preventing British schoolchildren from being inspired by scientific discovery and innovation".

More than 400 campaigners are opposing the celebration of Israeli science on the grounds that it promotes Israeli universities whose research was complicit with the military campaign in Gaza. The letter, sent to The Independent, says: "Science crosses borders, builds bridges and transcends national and political divides. It can unite people but the protesters seek only to divide and exclude. At a time of high community tensions, these boycotts are especially pernicious."

Signatories of the letter include Lord Winston, chair of the House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology, Professor Susan Greenfield, director of the Royal Institution, and Professor Ruth Deech, a former chair of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority. They welcomed the museum's refusal to cancel the event which is to take place today amid enhanced security and picketers.

The educational workshops and seminars being held by Israeli scientists are not being hosted or sponsored by the museum but are organised as a corporate event by the Zionist Federation. The letter, signed by 104 academics, was organised by "Stop the Boycott", a group set up in 2007 to oppose a planned University and College Union boycott of Israeli universities.

Speaking out against the protest, Baroness Deech said: "This is a counter-productive and anti-intellectual gesture. Regardless of the reasons given, this looks and feels like a racist statement. Far from helping the Palestinians, it does nothing but discredit the protesters. Why are the political activists singling out Israel and not taking similar positions on so many other conflicts around the world?

"There is a global principle of scientific enquiry and this runs totally counter to that. Two years ago, there was an ugly attempt to boycott all Israeli academics. This time, the scientists are the target and it is no less unpleasant."

Baroness Greenfield added: "Boycotting science is a lose-lose strategy. Nobody wins. On the other hand promoting science, especially in young people, is the real hope for the 21st century."

Stephen Ladyman, MP for South Thanet, said he was "disgusted" by the protest petition signatories. "I'm pretty disgusted that scientists, academics and people I would greatly respect have been so narrow-minded to try and encourage a boycott of science. Academic freedom has to be protected as ferociously as we can," he added.

The critics accuse the museums of promoting scientists who are "complicit in the Israeli occupation and in the policies and weaponry deployed to such disastrous effect in Gaza".

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Zionism as fascist as Nazism
[info]merlin2go wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 01:02 am (UTC)
These Zionist Israelis must be stopped. I fully support the protest against the Science Museum.
Israel is a murderous state and must be stopped. Israeli Science Day is no more innocent than having a Hamas Science Day or Palestinian Science Day and if Hamas did try to have a Science Day the Israeli-Zionists would be protesting as well. What Israeli Science Day is trying to do is put an innocent harmless spin on what is actually a ruthless fascist policy of denying basic human rights and conditions to Gaza and the West Bank. The Zionist fascist tentacles reach all over--we have seen Mosad operate in Africa and we have seen USA Senator Joseph Lieberman (also a Mosad agent) take hostage the Democratic party during the Bush years. It is just as evident that the Zionists are putting spin on how innocent Israelis are with "Science Day", when they are actually guilty of genocide against Palestinians.

I used to pity those Holocaust survivors. Now they have no moral upper hand, no respect. You cannot claim to be a victim of a camp and then turn around and do the same to the Palestinians. Is Gaza not Auschwitz but instead of ovens the Nazis used, the Israelis are using American F-16 jets, phosphorus, cluster bombs and such to achieve the same ends as the Nazis. Hitler is smirking.

The Israeli murderous policy against the Palestinians must be stopped and protested against and one excellent way of doing it is to flag the Israeli Science Day as the sham that it is.
Re: Zionism as fascist as Nazism
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:23 am (UTC)
Totally agree Merlin2go.
For a people who claim to suffered so much, they are now emulating the Nazi and dishing it out to others.
Do humans not learn anything from history?
Re: Zionism as fascist as Nazism
[info]pitecantropus wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:39 am (UTC)
Fact: The population of Gaza has increased by 40% in the last 10 years. Is this consistent with extermination?
Re: Zionism as fascist as Nazism
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:46 am (UTC)
So you think battering a civilian population, described by many as "shooting fish in a bowl" with the worlds most advanced weapons (as it was recently in Gaza) is ok, because they have enough people to spare for killing.
Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]flopsy88 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:29 am (UTC)
Way to go guys. So glad that the Science Museum has decided to go ahead with the Israeli Science Day.

Delighted that the top academics have not listened to a bunch of rascists but have voiced their opinion loud and clear. Such a little country as Israel yet such backbone. I admire them for their stance.
Re: Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]hanif001 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:38 am (UTC)
Those scientists (I wonder how many have some association with Israel) need to check their moral compass once in a while.
Consistency
[info]joe_london wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:06 am (UTC)
I'd boycott a celebration of Zimbabwean science if it were organized by ZANU PF; I'd boycott a celebration of Saudi science if it were organized by the "Wahabbi Movement for the Repression of Women". I made up that last organization, but you all see what I mean...
Re: Consistency
[info]joe_london wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:13 am (UTC)
... so yes, I'd boycott the Zionist Federation's event too!!
[info]zentao7 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:14 am (UTC)
So if anywhere were to hold a UK or US or French or German or chinese or Japanese or pretty much any countries science day we shoudl boycot that too because all the above countries have had governments who invaded others and caused massive casualties ... the jingoistic anti-israli sentiment that abounds is little more than racism.
This is about science not politics - for some reason people think that the rules are different in this case
[info]joe_london wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:48 am (UTC)
If one could argue that the UK, USA, France, Germany, China or Japan were currently engaged in repressing people to the extent that the Palestinians are by Israel then yes, one should boycott the event of any organization that promotes those nations.

You are suggesting that one should always look to the injustices of antiquity to justify the current abuse of the Palestinians by Israel.
boycott
[info]michaelbard wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:29 am (UTC)
The pernicious and concerted and vulgar campaign to discredit anything Israeli with false analogies, lies and utter distortion goes on unabated. For the head of one state, Iran, to call another legitimate state, a cancer and by implication all Jews as part of the came cell structure, and then to know the continued improved rockets, since the unilateral cease fire, are Iranian, is tantamount to further acts of war. When will peoples who compare Israel to the Nazis look to the truth, that the jihadists have declared aims to kill all any Jew and are playing the same game that has always been played against the Jews throughout history, which is to blame them for their own failings, and use hatred and racism as a divergence to keep themselves in power and abuse their own people. The only difference is the Jews will no longer sit back an take it forever and a day, yet still they manage to turn into victory, martyrdom and more hate, the self appointed response. How come these same great humanists against suffering don't make a fuss about the wonderful Janjeweed? Is it because they have only killed about 150,000 non-muslims, and continue to do so at the rate of about 5,000 a month? Or is it because they are wonderfully humane and caring folk who just happen to be Arab and their victims just happen to be black? Talk about hypocrisy.
Re: boycott
[info]joe_london wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:57 am (UTC)
When the Janjeweed want to organize an event at the Science Museum, I shall back a boycott of that too.
A letter to the editor is a news story?
[info]rowan_berkeley wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 04:31 am (UTC)
This seems like the search for 'balance' gone mad.
Fanatical in everything but the truth
[info]gilad144 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 06:45 am (UTC)
If only those parading as soldiers of justice and protectors of the Palestinians would be as fanatical as learning the other side of the story.
Re: Fanatical in everything but the truth
[info]bandoraetrog wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:36 am (UTC)
i am not sure exactly what you mean by "other side of the story" but as i lived in israel, i think i know more than some. and i used to stand for hours at checkpoints, watching kids with guns abuse kids without guns.
Re: Fanatical in everything but the truth
[info]eve_ntual92 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 02:03 pm (UTC)
A poignant observation. It says more than most on here. Thank you.
hypocrites
[info]bandoraetrog wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 06:47 am (UTC)
"preventing British schoolchildren from being inspired by scientific discovery and innovation"

yet hundreds of thousands of palestinian students are prevented from receiving their education by the occupying forces of israel. why not try inspiring palestinian children instead of killing them, stealing their land, demolishing their homes, humiliating them, starving them, destroying their infrastructure, preventing economic growth, humiliating, imprisoning and torturing them?

Re: hypocrites
[info]sense_equity wrote:
Tuesday, 10 March 2009 at 04:21 pm (UTC)
The last time Israel tried inspiring the Gazan population and withdrew all military personnel and forceable uprooted, I believe, about 8,000 "settlers", the Palestinians thanked Israel with a non-stop barrage of terror rockets indiscriminately aimed at civilians only. The rockets only partially stopped in January 2009 - interesting coincidence? Israel was given to the Jews (in 1948) and they made a desert bloom, how about the Palestinians trying that just once - let's see if it works? If not, I defer. I deeply sympathise with both sides in this unjust and complex situation but "carpe diem'!
Row over Science Museum exhibition
[info]marvellover wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:28 am (UTC)
Maybe one should consider the background of the leading signatories to this letter - Winston and Greenfield for example. It is just conceivable that they have particular reasons for being in favour of this exhibition's going ahead. Others of us, in the light of recent Israeli excesses in Gaza, may feel that the timing of this exhibition is very convenient and may well be part of an attempt to do something towards restoring the reputation of Israel in the eyes of the rest of the world, or is so strongly supported at least because it may have the (?unintended) effect of doing so.
Stephen Lady hypocrisy
[info]bigalan wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:44 am (UTC)
Stephen Ladyman is a Labour Friend of Israel and enjoyed a freebie to Israel partly paid for by the Israelis last year. If he so interested in academic freedom perhaps he should ask his Israeli friends why they have stopped Palestinian students studying in the US as part of the Fulbright scholarship program.

Academic freedom for Stephen seems to mean Israeli academic freedom with a blind eye turned to their suppression of other's academic freedom.

His Israeli trip expences seem to have been a good investment by the Israeli government.
Red Herrings
[info]francetta wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
A protest letter from Winstone et al,( that unbearable egotistical man with a basket of red herrings) does not remove this highly political move behind the very essence of an 'Israeli Day.
This is the nub of the whole matter-- why in the name of Israel? with its glorificatiuon of yet another fundementalistic view of the world.
All this in the name of science I believe is a scrabbling for a a squeaky clean bill of health in the name of Israel; glossing over the dire events of Gaza. Nothing will convince me its anything more than this.


Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]fjeldheim wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 09:41 am (UTC)
During the war in the former Yoguslavia ,the Institute for anthropological Research in Zagreb ,Croatia ,coragously arranged its "Anthropology and Health "Conference in Motovun,Croatia, with participants from several countries.This to show what Science is: "a candle in the dark", to use the American Astronomer Carl Sagan`s words.
It is not only pitiful, but cowardly to stop a Science Conference wich will not only show Israeli Science, but demonstrate that Science crosses all borders ,all ideologies,all religios superstition.
In a world where the true forces of darkness,namely religious superstition,authoritarian ideology,violence and "political correctness" is spreading we need science and enlightenment more than ever.
As a collegue of mine said:"while the Muslims and others prepare for the next Suicide bomb,Israelis, Japanese , Americans and others prepare for the next Nobel Prize!"
My best wishes for the Conference!
Cordially
Terje Bye Fjeldheim.
Professor.(ret)
Sarpsborg.
Norway.
Re: Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]joe_london wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 03:22 am (UTC)
Mr Fjeldheim, you wrote: "In a world where the true forces of darkness,namely religious superstition,authoritarian ideology,violence and "political correctness" is spreading we need science and enlightenment more than ever."

Tell me, does that religious superstition to which your refer also include the idea that only one group of people have a God-given right to the land of Israel and any other group should be marginalized, deprived, squeezed into ghettos, have their land occupied and illegally settled on?
Why is Israel being singled out?
[info]lmarer wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:10 pm (UTC)
Why is Israel being singled out - if a boycott against Israel is suggested than what about China? It has occupied Tibet since 1950. How many Tibetians have blown themselves up or killed innocent Chinese children?
It appears to me that Israel is being singled out in a racist manner. If this was not the case then we would see many more countries on the list beside Israel.

Furthermore, it seems hypocritical that Israel is blamed for Palestinian death while Hammas is allowed to kill Palestinians at will. Hammas' murder of Palestinians innocents is conventiently forgotten when everyone has the name 'Israel' on their lips.

If you are going to blame a country for wrongdoing (and quite rightly so) then blame everyone.
Shall we expect an American Science Fair to be under attack because of the H-bomb and its rise to riches by the blood of black slaves? What about a Chinese Science fair? They have used their science in the torture of Tibetians monks, nuns and civilians - yet the world happily and silently traded with China - why is Israel different? Or how about closing down the British Museum and returning all the stolen artifacts? What about the blood on the hands of the British Empire - slavery, raping, pilaging, murder...the list goes on.
Israel Science Fair at the Science Museum, London
[info]secondviewing wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 02:52 pm (UTC)
A 'Hamas Science Day or Palestinian Science Day'? "Zionism as fascist as Nazism"? You're having a laugh!! What could they possibly exhibit? Kassams? 'home made rockets' from the kitchen sink? Vivid descriptions of smuggling tunnels? Nope. Really progressive aren't they? PhDs on human shields maybe. 'How to build your weapons room under the mosque' perhaps? I like the way you are a member of 'Independent Minds'. Wonder whether the irony escapes you. Probably not.
israeli science day
[info]francesca123 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:10 pm (UTC)
No Flopsy 98 - they don't have backbone right now at this point in thier history
They are drunk on arrogance
Thue don't allow Palestinians to travel to study, to recieve medical treatment, to find jobs, to get the basics of life... 12, 00 Palestinians are in IsraeLi jails, some of them women and children, with no rigth to represenation..or a fair trial. They can't even use the same roads as the settlers whose settlements are illegal by international law. Theyare bombed, they have whote phosphorpus thrown at them, they have no medical supplies, no clean wter, no sewage plant.. and you still call Israel gutsy ?
yOu must have a really skewed mind set to call this gutsy
Re: israeli science day
[info]flopsy88 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 08:22 pm (UTC)
Relax Francesa 321


The Jews are within their right to protect themselves from Hamas. END OFF
israeli science day
[info]francesca123 wrote:
Thursday, 5 March 2009 at 07:18 pm (UTC)
Second viewing .. before you get carried away with yourself, just ponder over what should really be exhibited by ISRAEL at the Science museum

F16S, dIME, FLECHETTES, Apache helicopters, Caterpillar tanks - and all the rest of the stuff made at arts and crafts fairs in jeruslaem, cluster bombs , TOO
oh, just to finish it off.. the mutilated limbs of children targetted with wHite phosphorous . with all the rotting flesh coming off the bone
Please contempalte that next time you're on the WC
Re: israeli science day
[info]dragonsgemcat wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 08:33 pm (UTC)
Francesca, although phosphorus was used, you have to stop reading Hamas propaganda, it was used according to guidelines. The UN and UNWRA are guilty of failing to let the world know when they got it wrong and lets the world blame Israel about letting aid in when they won't send it because Hamas is stealing it and selling some of it to the Palestinians/Gazans. Also, Hamas is guilty of shooting these people in the legs if not killing them for trying to leave.

As for illegally holding people, what evidence is there? There have been rumours but no evidence. In reality, all prisoners have full access to the law and medical attention and you can hardly accuse Hamas of that. They still hold Gilad Shalit and have done for 3 years and refused the Red Cross access. I assume that this means that he is dead and that they will hold his body for ransom to get back Hamas soldiers.

People post a lot of hatred without facts or figures, they should do some research before posting nebulous propaganda. All this does is help Hamas believe that they can continue to use and abuse their own people and when we try to bring this to the world's attention, are ignored. Hamas is a terrorist organisation that hides in with the Palestinians and has their bomb factories there. They shell Israel. Would you like to be shelled for 6 years from the nest county without your government doing anything? No, then why should Israel put up with it if you won't?
Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]palomita79 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 08:07 am (UTC)
I completely agree with the letter! It's beyond me why would anybody want to boycott universities and scientists... Like Baroness Deech said 'Regardless of the reasons given, this [wanting to boycott scientists] looks and feels like a racist statement.' At the end of the day, it sounds like a great and inspiring event. I'm glad it went through and proud that the top British scientists and the museums supported it!
Scientists rally behind museum's 'Israel Day'
[info]palomita79 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 08:26 am (UTC)
I completely agree with the letter! It's beyond me why would anybody want to boycott universities and scientists... Like Baroness Deech said 'Regardless of the reasons given, this [wanting to boycott scientists] looks and feels like a racist statement.' At the end of the day, it sounds like a great and inspiring event. I'm glad it went through and proud that the top British scientists and the museums supported it!
Jews defending the Jewish state.
[info]koen2 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC)
Greenfield, deech and winston are all jews. Enough said. They protect israel, as many serbs would have protected serbia during the siege of sarajevo or as many south-africans would have tried to stop the boycott against south-africa in the 80ties. It's that simple. The only diffirence is that there are many more jews living among us and that they have more prominent positions in society. And another one: you may not mention this simple fact (certainly not on the guardian). It's taboo.

The simple truth is that only a boycott will be able to stop the madness in the middle-east. All that talk about peace is just a pretext. Meanwhile, they kill as much palestinians as they can and they grap as much land as possible.

winston:
http://www.jwol.org.uk/index.php?id=winston

greenfield:
she worked on a kibbuts
http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/duncan1.html

deech:
deech is is a member of the Jewish Leadership Council, a staunch Zionist / supporter of the State of Israel, and a strong critic of the British media coverage of Israel

http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/Ruth_Deech160903.html
imarer
[info]koen2 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 12:04 pm (UTC)
"If you are going to blame a country for wrongdoing (and quite rightly so) then blame everyone."

would you have been against a boycott that only targetted nazi germany (and not, f.i., italy)?

would you have been against a boycott of south-africa because it didn't include chili?
Glad the Science Museum decided to go ahead...
[info]calds3839 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 06:38 pm (UTC)
I can't believe some people would even think of banning this Science exposition!! One of the most enjoyable part of academic research for me has been the fact that I have been in contact with people from all over the world and I really mean ALL over the world. I am myself a French scientist who lived in the UK, USA and now Germany. There are no such thing as 'Israeli science'. Science has no national boundaries. We are all trying to understand the same things; nature, what is around us as well as our own bodies...This science Day is a great opportunity for young people to meet scientists, discover some part of the world they actually live in and hopefully for some of them to carry on the important work left to discover for all humanity in the future....
science fair
[info]francesca123 wrote:
Friday, 6 March 2009 at 07:02 pm (UTC)
Can Palestinians attend and can Palestinians scienteist attend ? if the answer is yes, then there is nothing wrong with an Israeli science day
The answer is more likely to be no becuase they missed the plane becuase of the 600 checkpoints thye have to go through, and the mud tracks they have to use because only the settlers can use the big proper roads
Scientists living in gaza may not be physically fit to go.. with little food and aid coming in.. and oh, let us not forget.. thier universitites were bombed..
Until israel treats the Palestinians like human beings.. than I shall protest and protest until my dying day
Science and military roles
[info]lottieau wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 09:56 am (UTC)
It would be racist if it excluded all people of that ethnicity/religion. The protest was against the few individual scientists directly involved with the excessive offensives in Gaza.

I personally think it's pointless to boycott those scientists. Who knows which researchers are secretly consulted/contracted whether in the Middle East or in any other part of the world for whatever cause.

Perhaps after this all-inclusive science event, the museum could promote science education curricula in schools in war-ravaged and developing countries.
a real e-newspaper?
[info]jaffgyp wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
if this was a real e-newspaper we would get far more about all the (presumed) israeli residents and expats who are ashamed of the decline in their beloved country's once high ideals; have they so little to say?; are there so few of them?; does nobody else care about the future of the country and its neighbours?;
inevitably history ensures a high proportion of israeli bullies ( because bullies are usually people who have been bullied) - and this has been extrapolated to today's lethal doomsday proportions by fanatical religious masochists on all sides throughout the middle east with even less questioning let alone opposition than nazism ever had- WHY?
<Insert country name> Science day
[info]stanley_oz wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 10:49 am (UTC)
I believe that those who protest against the Israel Science Day are forgetting that unlike most of the Middle East, the Israelis actually actively contribute to Science for all.
Next point - Weapons are mostly the product of the Engineering discipline, where widely understood scientific concepts are applied to mundane tasks.

And another point - Israeli science drives new advances in Medicine (which then save lives irrespective of whether these are Israeli lives, Palestinian lives, or the lives of citizens of the UK), Computing (for those using newest Intel CPUs - just a reminder they were developed in Israel), Space exploration etc.

As for the protesters - lobby your local organisation of choice to fund a Science Day. I'd love to see a Russian Science Day or a Chinese Science Day etc.

Protesting against Science is an ignoble undertaking.
End the illegal occupation now!!!!
[info]lauren23698 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC)
The whole problem is the illegal and brutal occupation, and the system of apartheid and Nazi-style aggression that has been in place for generations. Until the Arabs, who have been in occupation of Jewish land since 638AD, return back to their own homeland and leave Israel for its rightful owners, the Jews, then this conflict will never end. From the rivers to the sea was Jewish, is Jewish, and shall for ever more be Jewish.
Re: End the illegal occupation now!!!!
[info]flopsy88 wrote:
Saturday, 7 March 2009 at 08:18 pm (UTC)
well said Lauren23698.

The land belongs to theJews THE END
Science in Israel - do you benefit?
[info]dragonsgemcat wrote:
Sunday, 8 March 2009 at 08:13 pm (UTC)
I have to assume that the people complaining about Israel's scientists working with the military are talking about the research into heart attacks, AIDS, testing for breat cancer without radiation and other medical conditions. I also assume that they will not be using computers or computerised systems that monitor their health, will ban their country from using irrigation methods or asking Bali to hand back the free warning monitors for the next tsunami. They will stop the Palestinian children going for free treatment in Israeli hospitals and request that any country who has a disaster throw Israel out because they are one of the first countries on the scene with support. They will ask their government to refuse to receive any information that is passed to them about terrorist attacks and will not allow the Israeli army specialists to assist in the event of a terrorist attack, they who have more experience in digging people out of bombed buildings than anyone else in the world and the supporting medical personnel with the same experience.

Do you lot know how silly you sound when you wish to ban such scientific discoveries in your country? You certainly had better hang up your computer, give away your mobile phone with it's camera, refuse to use instant messaging and most medical treatment. All these things are Israeli inventions and by your own statements, you don't wish to use them! Enjoy!!
[info]markp1 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 06:27 pm (UTC)
Well all I can say as a science teacher and general enthuser of the discipline I am in full support of the protest. Those academics who wish to support and side with the Zionist bloodbeast are no less a legitimate target for protest, I can only assume that it is they who have wilfully sided with a country that has effectively got away with mass murder and genocide since the shameful day of its inception in 1948.
Israeli scince day is wrong wrong wrong
[info]markp1 wrote:
Monday, 9 March 2009 at 06:35 pm (UTC)
As a science teacher and general enthuser of the subject and discipline I am appalledat this. Those academics who decide that they are going to side with the zionist blodbeast deserve to challenged - it is they who are an affront to their discipline and not the rest of us who stand on the side of humanity. It is Baroness Deech who is siding with racism, Zionism is an intrinsically anti semetic idealogy and personally to insinuate that those of us who oppose Israels policy of killing, slaughter and ethnic cleansing (which it has conducted since its inception in 1948) are racist is slander and she should be ashamned she is a disgrace to scince as are those scintists who support this. Full cultural boycott Israel is worse than South Africa ever was ( in my view). Pull down the apartheid wall, Divest TOTALLY from this murderous regime, No justice no peace.

Science as as the glorous force for good it has the potential to be has been polluted by this, I for one do not support it as a scientist and a human being.
Lay off Israel
[info]xzqzq wrote:
Thursday, 12 March 2009 at 05:02 am (UTC)
I believe that the UK has been extremely foolish to allow the growth of such a strong anti-Western Muslim movement within it's borders. The hatred displayed on the faces of Muslims present during the parade of the regiment of UK soldiers recently returned from service in the Middle East speaks volumes.

The many rockets fired into Israel for the last year has been ignored by western media, and the so-called "world community": not so the Israeli response. The recent UN proposal to forbid any criticism of Islam highlights the double standard on these issues.
Re: Lay off Israel
[info]danros66 wrote:
Wednesday, 25 March 2009 at 01:45 pm (UTC)
I think the Israelis should emulate the Palestinians everyone reveres so much. They should hijack planes to remote African and third-world countries, and kill the passengers every hour, on the hour. They should raid the Olympics and massacre athletes. They should send drugged children into British supermarkets and blow themselves up. Maybe even storm a kindergarten or two, and massacre the students. Perhaps, after 30 years of this, even the readers of the Independent will 'get it'.
[info]jelly_knight wrote:
Thursday, 23 July 2009 at 03:07 pm (UTC)
I agree with the letter completely, these are times were we need to forgive and forget, not hold a hateful grudge against a country for their past, no matter how regretful their actions may have been. Imagine if the majority of the world refused to participate in trade with Germany and refused to achknowledge all of their scientific achievements. So many would have starved because of the population growth without ammonia to help our crops grow. We need every hand in improving our world for the better, even if it has blood on it. So what if we don't achknowledge their achievements, they can't change what they've done, only move on.
Mark
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