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British Jews attacked for pro-Gaza solidarity

By Emily Dugan

British Jews have been attacked for expressing support for Palestinians suffering under Israeli military strikes in Gaza. Police confirmed yesterday that they have provided protection to a number of people believed to be victims of UK-based Zionist extremists angered by expressions of solidarity with Palestinians.

Israel's assault on Gaza has prompted a rise in anti-Semitic attacks in Britain, with more than 150 incidents reported by the Community Security Trust (CST), an organisation for the protection of Jews. But the past two weeks have also seen aggression within the Jewish community towards those sympathetic to the plight of Gaza.

Rabbi Elchenon Beck, 39, was among six rabbis expressing support for Gaza's Palestinians who were set upon by a gang of what they allege were Zionists while walking back from opposing rallies outside the Israeli Embassy on 6 January. "They were shouting and pushed someone to the floor, so we called the police," Rabbi Beck said. "All the time they are trying to intimidate us, but we get used to it."

Rabbi Aharon Cohen, a Palestinian sympathiser and member of the anti-Zionist group Neturei Karta, had his letter box destroyed by a powerful firework after attending the peace march in Manchester this month.

Mark Gardner, of the CST, said it had not kept records of attacks within the Jewish community, but condemned those using the situation in Israel to justify violence in Britain.

"There's passionate political debate," he said, "but what's vitally important is that it does not spill over so that we become participants in a war by proxy."

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[info]clubsportif wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 06:51 am (UTC)
Maybe this article will help British people understand the nature of Zionism and appreciate better the position of Palestinians who have suffered from the Zionist entity since 1949. Zionism is a form of extremism as surely as Hamas is - but is clever, sneaky and state supported so has a better power base. If Zionists can attack Rabbis, just imagine what lengths they would go to against what they regard as 'squatters that need cleansing' from their land, regardless of the fact the 'squatters' have been there for thousands of years.
Neturey Karta vs rav Kook
[info]adonis_79 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 07:22 am (UTC)
Those who state that they are not antisemites but only anti-Zionists(including rabbis of Neturey Karta) are similar to those who would say that they have nothing against British people but UK has no right to exist.

Anti-zionism is 100% antisemitism.


Re: Neturey Karta vs rav Kook
[info]bogwart16 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:28 pm (UTC)
You are completely wrong, and you know it. A lot of Jews all over the world, including Israel, are anti Zionist without being anti Semitic. What you are saying is the equivalent of saying that people who are against American neocons are against the American right, which is foolishness.

But then, you know that, don't you?
Totalitarism Zionists
[info]bobby254 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 07:40 am (UTC)
It makes me laugh (sadly and tragically) when they refer to Israel and Zionists as demoocratic. Recent events show that their methods could be easily have been inspired by the III Reich.

The democrats are the ones who stand for the TRUTH AND THE OPPRESSED wherever they may be, even in Gaza. I respect you honest and godly Rabbis for speaking out against these monsters
The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]kelidor wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 08:01 am (UTC)
The group of British Rabbis should be told that the left wing newspaper conducted a poll yesterday, shows overwhelming public support in Israel for the Gaza war. 82 percent there believe in the correctness of this war and less than 10 percent see the operation as a "failure." (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1055564.html ) Does this tell us something?

The reason for these astonishing statistics (contrary to what the 'illustrious' group would have us believe) is that Israelis do possess a moral clarity in this war. They know why they are fighting for their lives. They know that Hamas specifically places launch pads in and around the homes of its own people. They know that the IDF abandons the element of surprise, by warning enemy noncombatants before they advance or attack. They know that Hamas hopes wayward Israeli bombs will kill large numbers of Palestinians (for which Freeland, et al, blame Israel). They know that the IDF is dedicated to saving as many lives (on both sides) as possible. They know that Hamas is dedicated to causing as much civilian suffering (on both sides) as possible. The know that Hamas is expressing it's genocidal intent.

The group is long on moralizing but conspicuously short on solutions, other than opining that Israel cannot win this war - not about occupation mind you, nor settlers, nor military control - but about its very existence.

Israel declared a cease fire 8 hours ago. Hamas,s response has been a new barrage of rockets into Israel. I dare say that the men of the cloth will find a way of explaining that too.


Re: The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]paul999 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 09:14 am (UTC)
No online poll is worth the bits and bytes it takes up. Idiots send the link to other idiots and they vote as they are told, be it politics or pop.

You are correct that Hamas doesn't care when their children are killed and maimed, in fact they probably celebrate so that they recruit another 100 martyrs to their cause. These martyrs will be the bothers/sisters/cousins of the dead children. These new martyrs won't blame Hamas (after all they control the media) but will blame Israel.

However don't pretend the IDF care about Palestinian civilians, I worked in Israel a few years ago and the degree of hatred and open racism I encountered against Arab Israelis and Palestinians would have put a BNP or NF supporter to shame. In many cases they seem to be considered less than human.

You say that this group is short on ideas - you are probably right, after all if the political leaders of the world can't do anything what chance have you and me. However IMHO Israel has lost the moral justification with the way innocent civilians are caught up in this conflict - every army over the last 50 years says it tries to 'avoid civilian casualties' without actually doing anything about it. Dropping bombs in a built up area is a guaranteed way of killing innocents.

'Israel declared a cease fire 8 hours ago. Hamas,s response has been a new barrage of rockets into Israel. I dare say that the men of the cloth will find a way of explaining that too.' Not a man of the cloth but I do have an explanation. After all the publicity about the resons for this war the rockets haven't been stopped - and Hamas don't care if you kill another 1000 children as it will diminish Israel in the eyes of the world.
Re: The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]tangayetu wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:45 am (UTC)
It is hard to not aplaud the Rabbis that stand up to Israel's atrocities. Their view is in the long term interest of Israel. You talk about Palestinians (Hamas or any other Palestinian) sending missiles into Israel, but you do not say WHY the do that. Would Israel's OCCUPATION of Palestine have something to do with it?

What would Israel do if someone occupied a piece Israel? Occupation must be resisted by an citizen with whatever they have.

Re: The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]sophiejo_1 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 11:04 am (UTC)
You claim that '... Israelis do possess a moral clarity in this war', and that 82% of Israelis support it. Where, pray is the 'moral' element? I make just two points: (i) This heinous slaughter is woefully wrongly called a 'war'. (ii) One on the world's best-equipped armies set upon a the starved and imprisoned people of Gaza, who do not even have an army.
Re: The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]sophiejo_1 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 11:12 am (UTC)
You claim that 'Israelis do possess a moral clarity' in this 'war', and that 82% of them support it. Where, pray, is the 'moral' element? I say: (i) there was no 'war' in Gaza, but a heinous slaughter of the people of Gaza. (ii) The Israeli army, one of the world's best equipped, set upon the st6arved and imprisoned people of Gaza, who do not even have an army.
Re: The Rabbis are dead wrong
[info]mohamed_tawfeek wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 09:37 pm (UTC)
i am respecting u that u don't insult anybody u speak with reason although i don't agree with u when Israel hit UN building for three times and there was one of them while UN secretary was in Israel and killed children and innocent people and UN warn Israel to hit its building and use GPRS that what was in this site not arabic media. IDF said they didn't hit it but Ihud Barak ,minister or defence, said they were shooting from nearby area. when they shoot ambulances and 4 paramedic killed , when they shout hospitals , when they shoot schools, when they killed reporters and journalists , when they take off olive tree, when they............., all that was done by Hamas, right? i think they kill not only Hamas they kill to make people leave Gaza Hamas or no Hamas they shoot without discrimination all of them palistinian ,all of them worth nothing, all of them cheap blood.
POLICE ACTION RE: ATTACKS ON PRO-GAZAN JEWS
[info]militantsisidf wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 08:28 am (UTC)
I hope the Police are monitoring extremism in the Zionist community. They are so good at clsiming to be victims of anti-semitism and trying to stifle debate and criticism of Israel using this blunt hammer. And now they are resrting to physical violence against pro-Palestinian jews. It's despicable. I hope also that MI5 is monitoring the actions of British Israelis who go to Israeli and get involved int he fighting either as settlers or the 'militant' IDF. Some of them may be guilty of war crimes and should be arrested forthwith as 'enemy combatants' perhaps.
3rd world war
[info]salahuddin09 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 08:29 am (UTC)
I think the third world war will not be between the armies, it will be between the civilians.
Attacks on Rabbis supporting Palestinians
[info]arthurdscubacat wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 09:49 am (UTC)
One presumes that the "Zionists" accuse the Rabbis of being anti-semitic since this seems to be the standard response to any criticism of the Israeli government even when that government is guilty of the most atrocious war crimes. Brave Rabbi Beck and supporters for showing some common humanity. It also highlights the fact that all religious fanatics are a danger to humanity no matter what their race or religion.
Support for Palestine
[info]tangayetu wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:37 am (UTC)
It is sad to see Jews attaching or harrassing Jews anywhere, just because they support Gazans. Jews of all stripes, especially Zionists, should be at the forefront in defending the people of Gaza becuase, one does not have to go far to see the injustice of not only Israel, but also of many other governments around the world.

The British Government says it will work to reduce arm flows into Gaza, who will stop arm flows into Israel? The America Government likewise. If the Palestinians cannot get arms to fight the occupation who will fight against it? When Argentine occupied a piece of UK lands, the British Government went to war to get rid of the occupiers.
war on Gaza
[info]dastu11 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:51 am (UTC)
Kudos to the British Jews who expressed support to the Gazans.Almost all world leaders including Arab rulers keep mum on this.That motivates Israel for further attacks on Palestinians.The world forgets that the HAMAS has the mandate of the Palestiniance to rule them.It is the corrupt FATHAH leadership who cheated the Palestinians.What Israel has given to the Paleatinian after so many peace talks,only missiles and bombs.The hamas had always warned about this.But the western governments always avoided hamas,branding them as terrorists.Now the world knows who is terrorist and their supporters.
Dastagir.INDIA
Thank you, moderate Jews
[info]avakhan wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 11:15 am (UTC)
The world needs to hear the voices of sanity coming from the moderate Jews, the ones who do not support killing and plundering and stealing land in the name of religion. There are many Muslims around the world who appreciate the compassion you have shown to the suffering Palestinians. Yes, the rabid Zionists will continue to push but if the moderates - not just in Judaism but in Islam and Christianity - all stand together, they can defeat the extremists. May sanity prevail.
[info]norman_thompson wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC)
Liverpudlian comedian, Alexei Sayle, has said these things about the Gaza invasion recently:

"It is the psychology of the murderer, the rapist, the bully. That's what Israel is in this situation."

"You hear all the time from Israeli spokespeople that they are angry with the people that they have murdered, for making them murder them."

"Stop killing people, stop killing children and then start thinking about the little things after that."

I guess the "Zionist extremists" in our midst wouldn't like Alexei much either.
[info]fuzz_box wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 02:06 pm (UTC)
Let the Zionists and Hamas fight it out together in a field somewhere far away. Too many innocents are being slaughtered on both sides. Maybe we are responsible? Why is it that the 3 major monotheistic religions can't give up their addiction to hypocrisy? If Jerusalem is a 'Holy City' why isn't it ruled by God? Isn't it Britain that is ultimately responsible for the mess in the middle-east and pakistan/india/kashmir/afghanistan? Are we making enough blood money from these conflicts? Are we selling enough arms? How many more children have to die. I may be a kitten but I think I know how to catch a mouse, and what it means to play 'cat and mouse', however it's in my nature, it's my instinct, human leaders of the world I ask you, what's your excuse? Whjen did you becomde so superior?
Anti-Zionism is 100% anti-Semitism
[info]peter_graves_12 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 03:27 pm (UTC)
Could one deduce Rabbi's are now ant-Semitic? What kind of hog-wash are we afforded here ?
Re: Anti-Zionism is 100% anti-Semitism
[info]msaoud wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 04:33 pm (UTC)
Just for everyone's information The term Semitism is dervided from Sem or Sam the sun of Noah. Jews and Arabs both come from Sam the sun of Noah. This means that they are cousins.. I find this term misleading as Anti Semitism means anti Arabs and Jews as well !
Re: Anti-Zionism is 100% anti-Semitism
[info]jon_one wrote:
Monday, 19 January 2009 at 06:08 pm (UTC)
As I understand it, you'll find that the majority of modern "jews" are "jewish" only through affiliation or marriage. Most are of eastern european (Turkey, Bulgaria etc) descendency and have no ties whatsoever to the original tribes and only became "jewish" after converting from christianity and Islam.
Therefore, the claims of historical land rights to modern day Israel falls flat.
Also, given modern "jews" origins, the term "Semite" cannot be applied in the majority of cases, as the majority of truly Semitic peoples in this area happen to be the Palastinians.

Israel was built on a lie and that lie is still perpetuated today. If you had a secret to hide, how would you do it? Take control of the mouthpieces and information outlets. Take control of governments and financial systems and use these to blackmail into your way of thinking ( prime example is Olmerts claim of "ordering" Bush and Rice to change thier vote over the UN resolutions re. Gaza). Just take a look at the amount of dual nationality people in the US houses and ask yourselves where thier loyalty lies.

Now, the ADL and other "jewish" groups are introducing hate laws that prevent even questioning Israel and it's actions.

A few years ago, I too would rubbish this sort of thing as being "anti-semite" etc. However, after immersing myself in trying to find out as much as I can, it would sem that a select group is intent on pulling the wool over our eyes and doing whatever it takes to keep it there.
insane slaughter
[info]liton_211 wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 06:17 pm (UTC)
Gaza war was aimed to slaughter Palestinian and make them feared. if hamas is terrorist organization defending the israeli occupation on their land then what we call the Israeli force and gov??????????????
Gaza
[info]bardobaltico wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 06:45 pm (UTC)
Children in their hundreds have been murdered in cold blood in Gaza. Terrorism is defined as the killing of civilians for political purposes. This is far worse.
ZIONIST EXTREMISTS
[info]humanity_first wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 07:33 pm (UTC)
AT LEAST THE ZIONIST CAN'T CLAIM THAT THE RABBIS ARE ANTI-SEMITIC, A LABEL FOR ANYONE ELSY WHO DARES TO CRITICIZE ISRAEL
it's not right
[info]mohamed_tawfeek wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 08:22 pm (UTC)
it's not right to be affected by violence in Gaza strip i mean to attack anybody due to his thoughts and his sympathy u have the right to show your believes so why violence?!!!!
i think who use violence to show his thoughts he doesn't believe his thoughts that much so he can use wards to defend it.
anyway what happen it Gaza is war crimes using white phosphorus and attacking UN building everyone saw that on TV with all that technolongy don't tell me u can't aim but what make it worse they hit UN building while UN secretary was in Israel what a mess ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more than 300 child killed and 100 woman and 100 old people , are their blood is so cheap that no investigations are opened ??? somebody tell me any answer
Greetings to the truth-loving British Jews
[info]tarik_toulan wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:27 pm (UTC)
I would like to express my respect to the courageous British rabbis and Jews, who mached in support for the victimised and helpless Palestinians, whose only fault was that they could no longer endure the suffocating blockade imposed by Israel, for long months, on all aspects of their daily life. The noble attitude of those rabbis and Jews clearly shows the big difference between Judaism as a religion and Zionism as a selfish and ruthless doctrine.
It is time for Israel to realise that peace can only be mutually agreed upon, and that it can never be imposed by military force, which Israel has been unsuccessfully endeavouring for decades. It is also time for Israel to understand that more killing generates nothing but more hatred and, consequently more violence.
the good Jewish people
[info]kamalp wrote:
Sunday, 18 January 2009 at 10:42 pm (UTC)
Judaism has long been confused with Zionism in the minds of people - yet the two are antithetical. Zionism, like all nationalist movements, was a product of the French Revolution. It is an entirely secular idea, and has nothing to do with Judaism.

Brave and God-fearing rabbis have long protested against the creation of Israel - but they went unheard, so powerful was the grip of assimilated Jews on the establishment in both Europe and later the United States.

Today, western governments fulminate against Iran's president for allegedly wishing the destruction of Israel (through sheer mistranslation).

Where were the western governments when Israel was nearly wiped off the map in the 1948 war? If it hadn't been for a most unlikely saviour (from the present perspective) called Joseph Stalin, who ordered a timely and decisive shipment of Czech arms, Israel would not have been there any longer.

Why didn't western governments lift a finger to help Israel then?

reminiscent
[info]shamsia_apai wrote:
Monday, 19 January 2009 at 03:46 am (UTC)
this is how Zionists forced Arab Jews to flee to Israel. But they used tactics far more brutal than pushing and shouting. Neither Arabs nor their Jewish neighbors wanted the latter to leave.
Who will protect them
[info]justymoore wrote:
Monday, 19 January 2009 at 05:36 am (UTC)
Truth will prevail no matter what.
The Rabbi understands this fact.

Israel is a Jewish state as per Zionist doctrine so any Jews in any part of the world can go there and
become Israeli citizen. And for the Arab Israel they are either 3rd or 4th class citizen. sometime they are chased out from their land to accommodate these newcomer citizen. For example Deir Yassin
massacre. (can google Deir Yassin and learn more about it)


Solidarity
[info]anamcara786 wrote:
Monday, 19 January 2009 at 08:57 am (UTC)

God bless the Rabbi's and, brave people from the British Jewish community who take huge personal risks and face being beaten or ostracized for standing up for oppression and injustice. They will be remembered in history as the Nelson Mandela s of their day.

Taking a stand against genocide, and slaughter of innocent Palestinians requires great courage.

May god bless and protect you amen.

anti-zionism = anti-Semitism
[info]mystic7465 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:11 am (UTC)
I was born a Jew of two Jewish parents, raised as one, matriculated in Hebrew, laid tfillin every day, went to shul every shabat, and I am horrified of the Nazi tactics used by Israel against Gaza. If anyone wants to label this anti-Semitism, I stand proudly as an anti-Semite. Who the f* can tell me to be sub-human? The label means nothing. I refuse to be intimidated by the only defence these rabid monsters and barbarians have: call anyone who disagress an anti-Semite. Well if that's the case, so what? What needs to be done here is to defang the label just as the label "queer" was defanged by gays. What matters is to be part of the human race or not. That is all. And from what I see, most Israelis are sub-human. Even wilde chayas (wild animals) don't commit genocide.
"never again"
[info]mystic7465 wrote:
Tuesday, 20 January 2009 at 12:34 am (UTC)
The motto "never again" rings hollow when it has really come to mean "never again for us alone".
That statement was made by a brave Jewish woman editor of the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle ; She was fired. Now when I hear this motto, I hear "I am entitled to do anything I like because we were victims of the Nazis" And when I hear "we were victims" it is referring to the Holocaust as the Jews' Holocaust, and forget about homosexuals ands others, who (threy imply) don't count. How arrogant! The motto means nothing to me, as a Jew, anymore
Confusion between being Jewish and supporting the Israeli State
[info]rjup wrote:
Friday, 23 January 2009 at 10:35 am (UTC)
It is inevitable that such attacks will happen and will increase in line with the continuing questionable behaviour of the Israeli State, in its apparent bud to seize as much land as possible, before the international community calls a halt to their behaviour. There is a solidarity amongst Muslims towards the Palestinian peoples plight, and how 'The West' chooses to stand on the sidelines bleating hollow rhetoric about the misbehaviour of their 'European' foothold in the Middle East.

Many people within the UK, which includes vast numbers of Muslims seem to too closely connect the behaviour of a rogue state with the Jewish peoples who are scattered throughout the world. The reality is that the Jewish people cannot be held responsible for the actions of the Israeli State unless they are directly or indirectly involved in propping up the present government. Perhaps it would help if Jewish peoples outside of Israel stated their abhorrence about the current situation in the same manner that Muslims were expected to do so after 9/11 and 7/7?

The actions of the Israeli State in its suppression of the Palestinian peoples is no less barbaric than what President Saddam Hussein, and the Ba'th Party did in Iraq to the Kurdish people. What the Israeli State is doing is 'ethnic cleansing', something that the peoples of the this State should well understand from their own history.

It is interesting how 'The West' is very keen to place embargo's and threaten military use when the 'Rogue' nation is Muslim, or/and African, but when the culprits are primarily seen as European, they are far slower to react. We witnessed this in the Balkan countries a few years ago, and we have seen this with their interactions with Israel since its perceived 'illegitimate' birth in May, 1948.

The attacks on Jewish people are as wrong as the attacks on any other ethnic or religious group and need to be stopped, but the Government of the United Kingdom can actually do a lot to counter these by being seen to be proactive in countering the behaviour of a nation that is out of control and committing unspeakable acts of barbarism on a daily basis.
zionists think the world is their property
[info]s0nia1 wrote:
Sunday, 8 February 2009 at 06:18 pm (UTC)
zionists think the world is their property, and the world population their slave, zionists should stop over playing their cooked up holocaust and should taking it as an excuse to carry out a real holocaust of those opposed to their terror based ideology.
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