'How to break through police lines'
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G20 protesters are circulating detailed pamphlets advising people on how to win street battles against riot police and what to do if arrested.
Thousands of people are expected to bring the City of London to a standstill on Wednesday and Thursday, as popular anger over government bailouts of the banking sector reaches fever pitch.
The vast majority of protests are likely to be peaceful but the Metropolitan Police claims extremist and anarchist groups might resort to violence.
The online pamphlets suggest certain groups are advising their followers on how to beat the police should things turn rough. One document, called "Guide to Public Order Situations", explains how to breach lines of riot police using a "snow plough" human formation; throw rape alarms to make it hard for the police to give orders; resist baton and horse charges using nets; and "de-arrest" seized protesters.
Speaking after the Put People First march in Hyde Park, London, on Saturday, an unidentified member of an anarchy group told a crowd: "We want to see resistance on the street on Wednesday. If the police are ready for you, go and fight them. If they're not, give them a surprise."
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previous matches between cops and anarchists include june 18, which most commentators agreed was cops 0 protestors 1, and the criminal justice bill riot of 1994, another which observers called for the protestors. let's not forget the poll tax riot either, which wasn't exactly the met's finest hour
Cops 0 Toxteth 1
Cops 0 Brixton 1
Cops 0 St Pauls 1
Cops 0 Tottenham Estates 1
Of course there was the memorable "friendly" where the Sun's Garry Bushell was involved with a skinhead group called the 4 Skins and proceeded to spark off a riot in Ealing, the result was Ealing 4 Skinheads -2 or did Bushell think growing a beard would hide his links to white power skinhead groups?
The point here is that when the people need to make their point, they do in fact win...
All the leaders are surrounded and cannot get out of the building.
They only escape will be an American helicopter taking the leader away from the mob.
Saigon 1975 London 2009
Capitalism Kaput.
Hooray...
Worse, this illegal behaviour was upheld in court.
A peaceful snowplough manouver would have put the Police completely in thr wrong, and clearly demonstrated that they act only by consent of the public. Such an action on Wednesday coming will clearly indicate to Von Broon that the writing is on the wall. Politics is a service industry : politician is an unskilled admin worker, easily replaced from a reservoir of wannabees.
...and I feel fine!
Or to quote another:
London is calling and I...
Everywhere you look you can find links to the Nazi's, Arnie over in California, his dad was in the SS, Karl Rove's father was a Nazi and even laid a foundation stone for a labour camp in his district, Nazi ideals were never defeated, they were just hidden and reinvented.
who is protecting all the other places?
it would seem to be the perfect time for a burglar, arsonist, rapist, or kidnapper, etc. to commit all the crime they want, with impunity, as long as they were far away from the protesters.
any victims of such crime could then sue the police and / or the city for gross negligence.
the protesters want TO BE HEARD, TO BE LISTENED TO, AND TO CREATE POSITIVE CHANGE.
by IGNORING AND SILENCING THEIR VOICES and OPINIONS, you make them violent.
police are supposed to 'serve and protect' all citizens, not just the rich and powerfull.
if the police want to stop the violence, ARREST THE BANKERS AND POLITICIANS THAT CAUSED THIS FINANCIAL MELTDOWN.
THE BANKERS LOST OR STOLE BILLIONS !!
THE BANKERS COMMITTED FRAUD !!
THE POLITICIANS LET THEM DO IT.
ARREST THEM AND CONSFISCATE THE MONEY THEY STOLE FROM US.
--note to police; FRAUD IS A CRIME, and just because you never arrested anyone for it so far, doesn't mean you can't do it now.
if you don't DO YOUR JOB and arrest the 'big boys';
there are words for that : ACCOMPLICE, and CO-CONSPIRATOR.
PLEASE, PLEASE, pretty please, grow some balls,
and DO YOUR JOB and arrest the criminal 'big boys'.
you will be heros to millions of the 'little people'.
What we all need is a General Election to rid ourselves of this corrupt government.
What was actually said was:
"And we want resistance on the streets, when I say resistance on the
streets thats exactly what I mean. If we're kicked around we should
fight back. But don't fight the police till you can beat them. When
they're ready for you DON'T fight them. When they're not ready for
you, give them a surprise."
About 20m30s into the audio which can be found at
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/0
The cops have been spinning this as an almighty ruck, and vastly exaggerating expected numbers (normally they play down the numbers at demos) but now they are claiming they will have to defend themselves against 100 000 anti-capitalists - if only.....
I wonder why the Independent made this 'mistake'.
1. wear hardhats, football helmets to a march
2. carry a baseball bat-not considered a 'lethal' weapon
3 garbage can lids- to deflect rubber bullets- CS gas canisters
4 gas masks or wet cloth/eye googles construction safety eye goggles are maybe your best friend
you tend to suck little air into them and a wet cloth to cover t hem will make you 75% more ENABLED
than those w/o
5 work gloves
The Police-bots are now way over dressed in hot heavy equipment-their sight and hearing are dramatically impaired make them earn that paycheck-make them run after you-or better yet-away from you!
Tazers? pshaw! bring wads of aluminum foil to toss at them i have heard that this will short circuit them-I have no idea-with gloves and a jacket you can go and rip major portions right from their hands
Girls-bring your anti rape spray and whistles-it will unnerve them
How then does it follow that this pamphlet is "advising their followers on how to beat the police' when it actually advises people on what to do if they find themselves caught up in a riot!
"With all that in mind, we suggest you stick to these three basic aims when you find yourself in a riot:
1. Get you and your mates away safely, rather than fighting.
2. Find a place to cause embarrassment and economic damage to your real target, rather than fighting.
3. Help others in trouble by administering first aid and de-arresting, rather than fighting."
Frankly, this was an appalling article and not what I've come to expect from the Independents usually high standard of reportage.
The only answer is prosecution of these men. There are laws to protect us. Our issue is that we don't have prosecutors who take the law seriously. The prosecutors work for the traitors and war criminals. It's time to protest them, as they are closer to home, and NOT DOING THEIR JOB>!
Meanwhile, this article is not helpful to getting things right, or putting us on a clean path. We are overrun with criminals, and nobody wants to do anything to enforce the law.
WOULDN'T IT BE FUNNY IF NO PROTESTERS TURNED UP,,,,OR PROTESTED SOMEWHERE ELSE,,,ALL THOSE NICE POLICEMEN STANDING AROUND DOING NOTHING,,,,AS USUAL
Why would anyone want the police to "lose"? The police are tasked with the job of preventing violence and protecting good order. If they lose, we all lose.
The last thing the country needs at this time is a descent into violence, bloodshed or disorder. Anger? If you like, though it's not a useful emotion. Violence? Never. Absolutely never.
Try getting help from them when you're being attacked or you've been burgled. Chance would be a fine thing.
It would bode you all well to remember who those cops work for and who they're protecting. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the militias and urban gangs who have born the brunt of treasonous groups like the CIA and FBI, et al start their little campaigns of "payback" as the patrol cars make their way along the streets looking for home-grown terrorists, (insert hungry masses), to beat and taze for their handlers. When the leaders of a nation sell their people out, use our constitution to wipe their asses and finally legislate patriotism as a terrorist act, ANY that support those actions are traitors and cowards and deserve no more compassion than they have shown those whom their acts of treason and cowardice have disposessed.
It is a sorry state of affairs, when the constitutionally racist police police force in this country are trying to impose a POLICE STATE DICTATORSHIP upon it own citizens, and denying its citizens the right to protest against a corrupt leadership of politicians and bankers who have caused nothing but misery to millions of people world wide. And to have the Government to use the Police to enforce the same culture of suppression and oppression upon its electorate as seen in Zimbabwe and other totalitarian regimes.
And the sad fact is that these individuals actually believe in their own bulls...t, and as such are now putting them self above the law, they are meant to uphold, My heart rejoices every time I see one of these combat ready dominions of the state getting a real trashing. As Instant Karma works in the most wonderful ways and you get what you put into it, It is time for Society to sit up and recognise the Police is not here to uphold the law and protect the civil liberties of the individual, but to oppress the many on the behalf of the few. Oppress the Poor so the Rich can get richer and who cares if the tax payers loose in the end.
More Police does not create a more secure society, Only Accountability, Equality, Equal distribution and Equal opportunities is the key to success, but it seems in the land of the Blind the One Eyed man rules Supreme. With The Police Storm Troopers to quiet dissent.
Support your Local Anarchists, At least they have the balls to do what so many of us are just thinking... Direct Action, Brings Direct Results. Don't let a racist and corrupt Police Force and Spineless Corrupt and Greedy Politicians and Bankers Stop your Day...Demonstrate and have your Say...
They Can't Arrest, Beat and Kill us all...In the End you know the score..
How do you know when a Politician/banker/Police is Lying??? Their Lips are Moving.
There are a surprising number of people who have had bad experiences with the Police, and most of them are what you would term "respectable", well educated with well paid normal jobs and careers, who have, through no fault of their own had reason to contact the police (or been victimised by them), and have found them severely wanting.
Luckily, because your average Plod isn't over endowed with brains, these highly intelligent (mostly) young people will run rings around them. I suspect that the police have been talking up the possibility of violence, just so they have an excuse to go in with full riot gear and kick it all off.
I simply don't understand the call to violence. It's horrible and it's wrong. Period.
Britain is not a facist state - Germany in 1939 was a facist state and if you think Britain is even a tenth as bad as that, you obviously have no idea about what a real facist state would be like.
Britain's current situation has too much surveillance and an over-emphasis on security, agreed, but don't call it facist. That's not a word you should use lightly.
Identity cards, cameras everywhere, construction of giant databases, DNA collection.....what would you call it?
Not to mention:
Suspicion as a default attitude from authority
The presumption of required permission for activities, rather than the assumption of freedom.
Instinctive mistrust of non-mainstream activities or choices.
I agree with all the points and dislike it all intensely. But I don't think we're in danger of a slide into facism. I think we're in danger of a slide into mediocratism, conformism. We need new words, I think.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22G
http://www.uhc-collective.org.uk/webpag
It appears to me to be a pretty good guide on avoiding arrest, using organized non-compliance, not violence.
Matthew Anderson
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