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Luton fights back against right-wing extremists

Muslims in the Bedfordshire town have taken a stand against those who abused soldiers returning from Iraq

By Jerome Taylor

Farasat Latif: 'I now hope the white working class will weed out the fascists and hate mongers just like we now have'

SUSANNAH IRELAND

Farasat Latif: 'I now hope the white working class will weed out the fascists and hate mongers just like we now have'

Farasat Latif was taking his daughter to school when he found out that the mosque he ran in Luton had been firebombed by right-wing extremists. In the middle of the night two men in a stolen silver BMW had driven up to the Masjid Al Ghurabaa in the Bury Park area and poured petrol through a side window before making their getaway.

For Mr Latif that awful morning was a watershed moment. Firstly he had to gently inform six-year-old Ruqayah that there would be no lessons for the next few weeks because her school, which was on the top floor of the mosque, had been damaged in the fire. Then he had to explain to her why someone would even want to set fire to a mosque in the first place.

"I had always tried to shield my daughter from the idea that there are people out there who simply do not like Muslims," the 39-year-old said. "But it wasn't long before she worked it out. That day installed in her a "them and us" mentality – something I hoped she would never have."

The anger that Mr Latif felt following that fire on 4 May could have been directed solely at the bigots who set his mosque alight. But the people he was most furious with were a motley collection of 15 to 20 young men who regularly preached a radical and intolerant brand of Islam from a street stall down the road and had helped foster the image that Luton was an Islamist stronghold.

Two weeks earlier those same men – most of whom are former members of the banned Islamist group Al Muhajiroun – had greeted soldiers of the Royal Anglian regiment who were returning from Iraq with screams of abuse and placards declaring them "Butchers of Basra", "murderers" and "baby-killers".

The protest outraged whole swaths of Britain, not least Luton's 25,000 Muslims who knew all too well that their town would once again be associated with extremism.

Once the Masjid Al Ghurabaa was firebombed, in what police suspect was a retaliatory hate attack, Mr Latif sadly concluded that Luton's ordinary Muslims were paying the price for the actions of the "Al Muhajiroun boys". Which is why he decided to act against them. Shortly after Friday prayers last week he and 300 supporters marched down to Dunstable Road where the sect often set up their stall and told them in no uncertain terms that they were no longer welcome in Luton. His group was spontaneously joined by a number of shopkeepers who were equally fed up with the Islamists putting off their customers with their firebrand preaching.

Despite retaliating with angry taunts of "shame on you" and "go back to your synagogue", the extremists eventually backed down and sloped off towards the town centre. They have vowed to return but many within Luton's Muslim community say they will now get the same treatment if they ever come back.

For outside observers the fact that Luton's Muslims turned on the extremists in their midst shows how angry many British Muslims are at the small number of Islamists who routinely give them a bad name. But within Luton itself, it wasn't the liberal Muslims of the community that turned on the extremists – it was the ultra-orthodox conservatives that finally snapped.

Mr Latif's Masjid Al Ghurabaa follows the Salafi school of thought, the socially conservative Saudi sect in which male adherents tend to grow long beads and dress in simple tunics and women usually adopt the full-length niqab veil. "To outsiders we come across as very traditional," he says. "We don't listen to music – my wife and I, for instance, wouldn't go to a wedding if there was music playing. But that doesn't make us extremists. Islam teaches people to strongly believe in social cohesion and strictly prohibits shedding any innocent blood. The hot-headed young men that belong to Al Muhajiroun promote violence and preach a false version of Islam that reflects badly on ordinary Muslims. That's why we took action."

The spontaneous protest against Luton's firebrand street preachers has prompted a genuine outpouring of support amongst the wider Muslim community. This Saturday local business leaders are holding a meeting to try to persuade the police and local authorities to help them crack down on former Al Muhajiroun members.

Nadeem Chaudhary, a 38-year-old businessman who runs a shopping plaza at the northern end of Dunstable Road, says the Muslims of Luton have finally had enough of the extremists but they need support from police and local authorities to keep them out.

"We've been trying for a long time to persuade the police to move the Al Muhajiroun boys on but either there doesn't seem to be much they can do or they simply don't want to do anything," he said. "Despite what people say, Luton's Muslims are proud to live in a mixed, multicultural society and they've had enough of the extremists."

Spend five minutes on Dunstable Road, the bustling commercial heart of Luton's Asian community, and it is easy to see what Mr Chaudhary means. Although the street is overwhelmingly Asian and Muslim it is by no means homogenous. Women in full niqabs, old men thumbing prayer beads, glamorous girls in high heels, muscly-armed rude boys and young pious men in cotton tunics and downy beards all intermingle in the marketplace. The opinions and beliefs of Dunstable Road are just as varied as any other high street.

But the recent actions of Al Muhajiroun have led to increasing racial tensions within the town and a polarisation of opinion among the area's white and Asian communities.

In response to the protest against the Royal Anglians a group calling itself the United People of Luton have held a number of counter demonstrations against the "scum" that ruined the soldiers' homecoming. When they held a protest last month a mob of skinheads broke away from the police cordon and started attacking Asians. Another UPL march is planned for the August bank holiday and many young Muslims in the Bury Park area say they will do whatever is necessary if the police fail to protect them.

"Everybody is getting ready for a fight," said one 19-year-old man, who strongly disapproved of Al Muhajiroun but was concerned that Luton's Muslims were being targeted by anti-Muslim mobs. "We're fed up with girls in veils getting spat at and having racist abuse hurled at us. If they come here again, we'll fight."

Last night Wayne King, an organiser at the UPL, said he would consider calling off the bank holiday march now that the local Muslim community were confronting Al Muhajiroun.

Mr Latif, meanwhile, hopes that their decision to turn on the extremists within their own community will now prompt Luton's white community to do the same.

"I believe people on all sides are sick of the extremists," he said. "I now hope the white working class will weed out the fascists and hate mongers just like we now have. Otherwise things will only get worse."

Al Muhajiroun: The enemy within

Formed by the now exiled extremist preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed in the mid-1990s, Al Muhajiroun was a radical political Islamist organisation that aimed to replace democracy in Britain with sharia law. The sect officially disbanded in 2004 but activists continue to attract followers – predominantly young, unemployed men. Numbers for the group and its two banned offshoots – Al Ghurabaa and the Saviour Sect, proscribed for glorifying terrorism – rarely exceeded a couple of hundred followers but their visible self-promotion and controversial statements, such as praising the 9/11 suicide bombers, have earned them notoriety and influence. Bakri Mohammed still preaches from Lebanon on the internet. London preacher Anjem Choudhry says the group will keep its stall in Luton: "The brothers have been propagating Islam in Luton for 15 years. There is a huge amount of love and respect for them."

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Urban Myths
[info]1mongrel wrote:
Tuesday, 2 June 2009 at 11:38 pm (UTC)
Anyone arrested or even description given for this mosque burning? Woman in headscarf spat on in Tooting/Stevenage/Whenever Wherever. Mythical "White Racists" on the prowl (New Cross/Damilola/Michael Menson). Don't any of these people understand the difference between a fact and an allegation?
(no subject) - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:58 am (UTC) Expand
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Re: Urban Myths
[info]almightymat wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 02:17 pm (UTC)

But weren't the killers in the Menson case racially motivated? Is Cyprus not "white" enough for you?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/572524.stm
Re: Urban Myths - [info]1mongrel - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:11 pm (UTC) Expand
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Re: Urban Myths - [info]1mongrel - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Urban Myths - [info]almightymat - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:53 pm (UTC) Expand
they have made .....
[info]britfree wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 12:29 am (UTC)
opposition to the filthy british state illegal . what has been meat and drink to britfree for decades (since the mid-sixties) is now a crime . mabye they will ask for loyalty oaths , they can send one to me if they like , i'm always running out of bog roll . i dont support the poo in a bag british state , their armed forces , their foreign policy , tout ! jail would be preferable to enforced approbation . you can stick your butchers apron up your ****
love britfree x x x
Get it into Context
[info]mrnoname44 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 01:23 am (UTC)
Nobody in their right mind would condone what those idiots did, who poured petrol into the mosque. Besides the criminal damage, what if someone had been inside?

It is interesting that the story presents Mr Latif as a moderate fighting extremism at both sides. But this is a guy who apparently refuses to allow his daughter to attend a regular school, insisting she is taught the Islamic way at a mosque based school - hardly integration.

Whilst I abhore racism, or religious intolerance of any sort, I think there is a rising feeling, not entirely unjustified, that certain minority groups are looking to have their cake and eat it. You cannot cut yourself apart from the rest of society, insisting on being treated differently, and then expect always to have the full benefits and advantages which would flow from being genuinely integrated. If you're not in it, you can't win it. A bit like expecting to win a lottery, but refusing to buy a ticket.

That's not down to discrimination by the rest of society. It perhaps points to need for muslims to look inward on these issues.
(no subject) - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:24 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Get it into Context - [info]gw1000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:57 am (UTC) Expand
(no subject) - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:18 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Get it into Context - [info]gw1000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:27 am (UTC) Expand
Next step, Luton Muslims, free the women/girls from the primitive veiling ideology!
[info]nooraza wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 06:11 am (UTC)
Although these Muslim men are admirable in trying to do right in integrating with their non-Muslim neighbours, I would ask, in the next progressive step, would they give that freedom to their women/girls to integrate in similar way? I would suggest, if Mr. Latif here and his fellow male-Muslims believe in true justice, set the women/girls free, within full rational choice (not manufactured consent, mind you), from the shackles of Dark-Age Islamism. And not to abuse young girls, especially before adulthood, by forcing them to wear the veil, including fro three years old! Let them think and rationalize for themselves as adults; so that their consent is not manufactured since their minds are manipulated from young!
Re: Next step, Luton Muslims, free the women/girls from the primitive veiling ideology!
[info]ba_bwoi wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC)
In response to Nooraza....

I can see how you can be led to believe that the women/girls are opresses in islam. Howvever as a muslim i can tell you that it is on the contrary. The men do not need to ask the women/girls to where the veil/scarf, they do it off of their own back as it is what the religion says to do, that is, it is God that has asked them to do it, not their husbands/fathers. You also mention that their minds shouldn't be manipulated from such a young age. i ask you, would you not help your child fight against something that you know would bring harm to them? If your child wants a ciggarette at the age of 4 will you not stop them, the same with drugs, drinking etc. What if at the age of 10 your child comes back saying i want to kill all the coloured people in the UK? Would you not try to convince them otherwise (if you believe it is wrong and harmful)?
(no subject) - [info]thomas_66 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:13 am (UTC) Expand
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Re: Next step, Luton Muslims, free the women/girls from the primitive veiling ideology!
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:53 am (UTC)
EVER WONDER WHY?
>
> Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith
>
> But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!
>
>
> Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God
>
> But when Muslimah does the same she oppressed
>
>
> When a western women stays at home to look after her house and kids
> she is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing good for the
> household?
>
> But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, "she needs to
> be liberated"!
>
>
> Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her
> rights and freedom?
>
> But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university!
>
>
> When a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential.
>
> But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless!
>
>
> When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned, but
> when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial!
>
> When someone sacrfices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and
> all respect him.
>
> But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed,
> his brother's arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being
> destroyed, and his mosque being violated -- He gets the title of a
> terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim!
(no subject) - [info]thomas_66 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:42 am (UTC) Expand
Hey Copycat, I called you an Islamist, not a Muslim! - [info]nooraza - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 12:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Next step, Luton Muslims, free the women/girls from the primitive veiling ideology!
[info]schorl_12 wrote:
Friday, 5 June 2009 at 11:23 am (UTC)
girls are not obliged or in any way forced to wear the hijaab. specially a three year old! Please before you try and 'sh** stir' read up on it. Women who do not practice their religion don't practice and those who do then they wear it (hijaab) willingly. Imbecile.
such a pity.
[info]darryn87 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 07:55 am (UTC)
to see a muslim whining about extremists within what he calls the "white working class" while these bast@#ds do little if anything to weed out the fanatics in their own community,disgusts me. i'd vote BNP just to spite these arrogant hypocrites. that tyrant adolf hitler once said, "without bolshevism, nazism wouldn't exist." he was saying that without an action, there wouldn't have been a re-action. well the BNP is the ethnic british man's re-action to fifty years of liberal elitists and politically correct do-gooders selling our ethnic, cultural and national identity to the highest bidder. the headline should read....luton fights back against islamic extremists.
Re: such a pity.
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
Aren't the BNP the worst offenders when it comes to using the term 'white working class'? It seems you've only read the last paragraph of the article, because the rest shows exactly how he's trying to solve his community's problems. There are problems on al sides, don't scream and shout because someone points out your problems, because he's making a start, whether you choose to be blind to that fact or not.
Re: such a pity. - [info]gw1000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:01 am (UTC) Expand
Re: such a pity.
[info]almightymat wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 03:25 pm (UTC)

Actually, if you bothered to read the article you would see that it is about a community trying to deal with it's extremist elements, what can you possibly have to complain about there?

The BNP is a neo-Nazi organisation, founded by a man who referred to Mein Kampf as his "bible", do try and get it right!
!!!!!STATE APPROVED ISLAM!!!!!
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC)
REMEMBER ALL YOU MUSLIMS, IF THE UK IS INVOLVED IN: CARPET BOMBING YOUR RELATIVES WITH CLUSTER BOMBS, FIRING DEPLETED NUCLEAR URANIUM AMMUNITION ALL OVER YOUR BIRTH NATION CAUSING BIRTH DEFECTS AND CANCER FOR GENERATIONS, KILLING MUSLIMS IN NUMBERS "IN THE MILLIONS" over the past decade (Genocide/holocaust levels), INSTALLING OPPRESIVE DICTATORS ALL OVER THE MUSLIM WORLD, TORTURING AND SEXUALY ABUSING YOUR RELATIVES (ABU GRAIB...and then photographing the torture/sexual poses as use as blackmailing material if you refuse to become an informant).(a well documented tactic in historical warfare)..then refusing to punish those responsible, ETC ETC, you must continue to only voice vocal opposition. There is no level of violence and evil the west can inflict on the muslim world in which millitancy will be accepted as a justified responce. any violence will be an act of terrorism. This was a party polital broadcast by the labour party.
Bedfordshire Constabulary.
[info]ron_broxted wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:19 am (UTC)
"If the police fail to protect them" Has it occurred to anyone that the BNP draws massive tacit support from the police?
The real right-wing extremists
[info]bobbellinhell wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:25 am (UTC)
Surely the real right-wing extremists are the people cheering on the soldiers who took part in the invasion of Iraq.
Re: The real right-wing extremists
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
Tellin it like it is.
Re: The real right-wing extremists - [info]infangthief - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC) Expand
Why is a school on the top floor of a mosque?
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:32 am (UTC)
How are we going to discourage children believing primitive ideologies if they are exposed to them at school every day? You may claim not be an "extremist" but it sounds like you are seriously repressed mate.
I was also surprised to hear of a "mob of skinheads" in Luton - are there really still skinheads in Britain, I thought they all died of AIDs in the 1980s!?! Surely Wayne King is a made up name, Wayne King - wanking! Right! Someone tricked you there!

Personally I don't think it is right burning down mosques, I think we should demolish them in a more civilized fashion and maybe build a nice church in place, after all Jesus was much nicer man than Mohammed even if he was a Zionist Jew. Mosques belong in superstitious and backwards third world countries, not in crusader Britain.
Re: Why is a school on the top floor of a mosque?
[info]gw1000 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:07 am (UTC)
Good point. Maybe we could start by converting back all the churches that have been turned into mosques in recent years. And then we could sack our communist archbishops and replace them with genuine Christians who will set about filling our churches once again.

P.S. Wayne King is not made up, he's a friend of Seymour Butts and Ben Dover.
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Re: Why is a school on the top floor of a mosque? - [info]copycat7 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:24 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Why is a school on the top floor of a mosque? - [info]kuma2000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:24 pm (UTC) Expand
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Luton fights back against right-wing extremists
[info]septimusgrunge wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:36 am (UTC)
Although I have every sympathy with this gentleman's stand against the extremist in his town, and am against the arson attack on his mosque, I was saddened by his statement about forbidding music, as a musician I feel a personal slur on my chosen profession. As an after thought, how many of his community would fight for the right of a cristian church being built in the land of his origin?? I feel his inner thoughts are predictably one sided

Septimus Grunge
Re: Luton fights back against right-wing extremists
[info]ba_bwoi wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:05 am (UTC)
Hi Septimus,

Regarding the music comment....There are laws in every religion that a person may feel are too restrcitive or consider it a 'personal slur' agaisnt them or their profession. This should be expected if the person reading the laws/rules doesn't understand the reasons behind it, and does not believe in the person that created those laws.

Regarding the building churches comment... I believe Farasat Latif is from Pakistan which has multiple churches built there.

Regards
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVER WONDERED WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:49 am (UTC)
EVER WONDER WHY?
>
> Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith
>
> But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!
>
>
> Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God
>
> But when Muslimah does the same she oppressed
>
>
> When a western women stays at home to look after her house and kids
> she is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing good for the
> household?
>
> But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, "she needs to
> be liberated"!
>
>
> Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her
> rights and freedom?
>
> But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university!
>
>
> When a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential.
>
> But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless!
>
>
> When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned, but
> when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial!
>
> When someone sacrfices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and
> all respect him.
>
> But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed,
> his brother's arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being
> destroyed, and his mosque being violated -- He gets the title of a
> terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim!
Sharia law is coming to your town
[info]gw1000 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
Let's see how tolerant Luton (and other towns and cities across the country) are when they become majority Moslem (and make no mistake, they will do, given current birthrates). Christians, Jews, women and gays will be made second-class citizens in their own country.
Re: Sharia law is coming to your town
[info]copycat7 wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:32 am (UTC)
Well the muslims have made us westerners a "democracy" free zone in Dubia in the middle east where we can drink, gamble, screw etc inside specialy set up "westerner zones" and "trade zones" without fear of what is written in Koranic law. How about we make them a little area for sharia law and tolerate their ideology with the same respect or does it not go two ways?
Re: Sharia law is coming to your town - [info]gw1000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:36 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Sharia law is coming to your town - [info]kuma2000 - Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:52 pm (UTC) Expand
what choice ?
[info]britfree wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:25 am (UTC)
if it is a choice between right wing zio-capitalism and the mad mullahs , my question is , why ? is there no other way to live ? the extreme violence practised by the british state will cause innocent death both here and abroad , driving the sort of righteous anger we see daily on our tee vees . the well spring of most islamic anger i suggest , lies in the violent dispossesion of the Palestinians , the stinking britsh states part in that ongoing atrocity merely drives a justified fury , and causes a thirst for revenge . should the british state reform their attitude from unquestionig support of zionism towards one of justice for the dispossesed . i suggest relations between it and the massive islamic world would improve over night , not much chance of that though ,'fraid
Al Muhajiroun
[info]abusumayyah wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 10:55 am (UTC)
I just wanted to make a distinction, that the banned ofshoot of al muhajiroun called Al Ghurabaa has no link whatsoever to the Masjid of Al Ghurubaa that was firebombed.
Re: Al Muhajiroun
[info]britfree wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:18 am (UTC)
the masjid in falkirk scotland was firebombed , the local (white ?) population donated to repair the damage will this be the case in luton ?
Islam abuses returning Luton soldiers and tells us to..
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 02:14 pm (UTC)
..get rid of our fascist 'element'. What a check. What a luxury these Muslims enjoy living as they do in liberal-minded England. I mean, its not like British Christians can settle in their homeland is it? Just for trying we'd be beheaded. I think some real perspective is needed here. But I'm not going to reinvent the wheel. Have a listen to Pat Condell. He's got the Islamic agenda well taped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHh0NdR5Jh0&feature=related
Re: Islam abuses returning Luton soldiers and tells us to..
[info]almightymat wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 03:37 pm (UTC)

The thing is, Collin, you neo-Nazi BNP members are OUR minority fascist element, just as the 20 radical Muslims in Luton that abused the soldiers are to the wider Muslim community of Luton...

An unwanted embarassment.
Is diversity such a blessing?
[info]john_b_ellis wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 05:02 pm (UTC)
Having read - or, more honestly skimmed, as the way this sort of exchange of view runs is fairly predictable once you've seen a few! - I'm wondering, yet again, about the validity of one of the "right-on" orthodoxies of the last fifty years: the idea of "celebrating diversity". It's not a doctrine peculiar to New Labour, but they've certainly been vigorous protagonists for it in the last twenty years.

The trouble is that human beings have never been much good at tolerating extreme diversity, let alone celebrating it. Very diverse societies tend, unsurprisingly, toward conflict because people passionately believe different things and hold divergent values. Despite the usual gloss that gets put on things, it's not a matter of race: the English themselves fought each other to a standstill in the 17th century because of difference in belief and divergence in values - though the differences between the factions then were a good deal less than the difference between conservative Muslims and secular native Brits now.

Large numbers of Muslims in the UK came here from a rural, peasant background at a time when our society was predominantly urbanized; they placed greater emphasis on the significance of family and clan when we were becoming ever more individualistic; they were strongly religious while we were more secular than we'd ever been; they believed in modesty and decorum, while we were letting it all hang out; they were conscious of coming from a culture arguably more ancient than ours, while ordinary folk here still largely believed that British institutions, and the Brits themselves, were the best and the greatest thing the world had ever seen.

Although they might be doing well economically here, our way of life, in a whole variety of respects, wasn't, and isn't, what a great many ordinary Muslims, once they'd got a sense of it, wanted for themselves, their families and their children. They thought, quite understandably from their perspective, that the British were godless, disrespectful, vulgar and immoral. Just as the Brits, as illustrated in this thread, thought they were backward, superstitious, barbaric and cruel.

Add to that a British foreign policy in the last decade that has tended to make Muslims the object of suspicion to a lot of ordinary Brits if it hasn't entirely demonized them, and which has made many Muslims feel that their backs are against the wall in a country with depraved values and which is now hostile to them as well as to the things that they stand for, and you have a polarization.

Is it any wonder that we don't entirely get on together? Especially now we're in economically stressful times when, faced with job losses and tighter money, we're all rather jumpier than we were. So we start to show the social stresses and hostilities that deeply divided societies all over the world have tended to show, particularly when times are hard and uncertain.

So should we celebrate diversity? Convince me!! Maybe we're better off avoiding it, and it takes a high level of shared belief, valies and customs to undergird a sound society in which people are able to live peacefully alongside one another.
Luton fights back against right-wing extremists
[info]andytym wrote:
Wednesday, 3 June 2009 at 11:40 pm (UTC)
Dear Mr Farasat Latif

Thank you for restoring my faith in comonsence. Your actions against the extremists was like a breath of fresh air!

Muslims have had a bad press to date, due mainly to a, (hopefully), small minority of misguided individuals.

I am white, English, but do have close friends who are Muslims, and the actions of a few crackpots is destroying the trust the majority of British people have in our brothers of a different creed.

Kind regards

Tym

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