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'Queue jumping immigrants' are a myth, says study

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

The claim that immigrants jump the queue for council houses will be exposed as a myth next week by an exhaustive national survey.

It will undermine Gordon Brown's promise to let local authorities give "more priority" to people with local links in the allocation of empty properties. His move was widely seen yesterday as a response to the suspicion – successfully exploited in last month's local and European elections by the British National Party – that white families were losing out to new arrivals in obtaining council or housing association homes.

The policy, echoing Mr Brown's ill-fated "British jobs for British workers" slogan, brought warnings from the opposition and immigration groups that the Prime Minister was allowing the BNP to set the political agenda.

The Independent has learned that a two-year investigation has failed to uncover "queue jumping" by immigrants and will describe the belief in its existence as a popular prejudice.

The inquiry – based on analysis of authority housing allocation and interviews with housing association managers – was set up two years ago by Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, and the Local Government Association. Its conclusions will be set out next week. Mr Phillips conceded at the time the inquiry was established that there was a widespread public belief that migrants received unfair advantages.

But research last year discovered 90 per cent of people in council properties were born in Britain. New arrivals in the country represented 2 per cent of the general population, but less than 3 per cent of those in social housing.

New migrants tended to end up in private rented accommodation because many of them, such as Poles and other east and central Europeans, were not eligible for council accommodation as they have not been working in this country long enough to qualify for it. Many lived in difficult-to-let former local authority properties that had been sold, which could have fuelled suspicions that newcomers were being favourably treated.

More than 60 per cent of new migrants were in private rented accommodation, another 18 per cent were buying their own homes and only 11 per cent were in council property, compared with 17 per cent among the general population. Announcing the construction of 110,000 homes to rent or buy over the next two years, Mr Brown told MPs yesterday that the Government was "enabling local authorities to give more priority to local people whose names have been on waiting-lists for far too long".

Downing Street insisted the move was aimed at giving more flexibility to councils. But David Cameron, the Tory leader, warned that ministers risked inflaming tensions with rhetoric designed to react to the BNP's successes. He said: "Government ministers should be very, very careful with the language that they use, that this 'local homes for local people' does not become another 'British jobs for British workers', which I think did a huge amount of damage to the Prime Minister's credibility and helped to build up parties that none of us want to build up."

Mr Cameron said he suspected the Government of deliberately putting potentially inflammatory rhetoric before firm, calm action.

Keith Best, chief executive of the Immigration Advisory Service, said: "The Government is playing to a particular constituency. It won't have escaped the Government's notice that the hard right has been spreading mischief around people to indicate that immigrants are taking their homes and jobs."

Three years ago Margaret Hodge, the MP for Barking in east London, sparked uproar after she called for council house allocation to be linked to length of residence in Britain, citizenship and national insurance contributions. "We should look at policies where the legitimate sense of entitlement felt by the indigenous family overrides the legitimate need demonstrated by the new migrants," she said.

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New Housing for local people
[info]gaolhouse wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 12:30 am (UTC)
It is all very well stating that immigrants take less than 2% of social housing, the reality is still, and will continue to be, that while immigrants keep coming to the UK, they will seek housing in the private sector (paid through housing benefit), which has been proven to be more expensive and less vigourously inspected.

For too long now the Government and the opposing parties have been complicit in the degredation of this country and its citisens.

If it really needed the BNP to pose a threat to these idle, self serving Eurocrats, perhaps it was better they gained the seats they did. I abhor the thought that it may have, but what does it say about the fabric of the community when normally logical people, nearly one million, vote for a purile party such as the BNP, all because OUR major political representatives refuse to listen to the concerns of the public?

Brown is selling us out to Europe, Cameron, as Labour did, will renage on a referendum if the Irish vote through the Lisbon Treaty (after two votes the EU may force one through now), but yet we, the ever dwindling British public, will continue to be neglected by our politicians.
Which side is Cameron On ?
[info]ppinter wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 12:42 am (UTC)
So Cameron opposes British Jobs For British workers and opposes priority for local British in social housing . Fair enough, at least we know enough not to vote for him . The trouble is who to vote for ? At this rate BNP is the only party left actually standing up for natural justice and common sense ,. Can anyone suggest an alternative ?
Re: Which side is Cameron On ?
[info]lexyboy wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:47 am (UTC)
Natural justice. Such a weasel word. Why don't you just admit you're a racist?
Re: Which side is Cameron On ? - [info]ratcatcher911 - Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 06:12 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Which side is Cameron On ? - [info]chaps25 - Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 06:56 pm (UTC) Expand
Right...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 02:05 am (UTC)
I was visiting the social services office in Bournemouth just by the central nick back in 2003, outside the offices were scores of foreigners all seemingly waiiting for someone, continually trying to beg money and cigarettes and then this rather well dressed and obviously foreign gentleman pulls up in a Mercedes, not a brand new but a convertible, he disappears into the office and reappears counting a largish wodge of notes and then proceeded to take money from the people hanging outside as well, he then disappears into the distance in his merc,

I started talking to some of the people there and it turned out they were mostly eastern Europeans and the gentleman in the merc was claiming he was as poverty struck as the rest of them, yet he was taking money not only from the Bournemouth taxpayers but also from the people allegedly in the same boat as him e.g. suffering hardship and poverty.

I found this highly, highly outrageous and said so to the social worker I was meeting and was told curtly to mind my own business...
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[info]jympton wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 06:27 am (UTC)
"what does it say about the fabric of the community when normally logical people, nearly one million, vote for a purile party such as the BNP?"

It says everything about the fabric of the community, it says that 'the community' is the same 'community' that voted for Thatcher and her short-term, grab-it-now policies, that cheered for a futile war in the South Atlantic so it could wave a few plastic Union Jacks, that bought shares in profit-making nationalised industries and sold them on quickly for a few quid, that said "not in my back yard" to environmental advances, the same 'community' that absorbs puerile, right-wing journalism as if it was written in stone ("Gotcha"!) and will turn out to be the 'community' which bleats first, when Cameron unleashes his neocon policies on us all. The 'community' makes me puke.
"British jobs for British workers" Hurray here I come from Tehran. Please give me my Brazil Passport
[info]famulla wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:05 am (UTC)
"British jobs for British workers" Hurray here I come from Tehran. Please give me my Brazil Passport please the greened cards ad the red football cards from turkey
British Embassy arrests in Iran ?unacceptable?, says Gordon Brown
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Nigel Morris
"more priority" to people with local links in the allocation of empty properties. His move was widely seen yesterday as a response to the suspicion?
Here is the small piece I stole from the speech. Now if there are pretty secretaries that, then the British in Iran Embassy falls in love. Do they jump the rope or queue?
"People should get their domestic rhubarbs, verbal fisticuffs, and emotional jugular-snatching completely out of the way before they show up for a house tour."
Richard Ford; Independence Day; Alfred A. Knopf; 1995.
I thank you
Firozali A Mulla

lies.
[info]darryn87 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:36 am (UTC)
giving immigrants, especially dark skinned immigrants, cushy flats and better housing in general, has been policy for labour dominated city councils for forty years. leftists are always able to hide their dirty deeds thanks to the turgid nature of liberal media bias.
immigration and housing
[info]surfnutt wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
If you arrive on these shores with or without children illegally or as a "refugee" you will be housed by an authority somewhere if however you were born and bred here and approach your council for housing you will be given some leaflets (handy to start a camp fire) and told not a hope mate such is the reality of "Social housing " in the uk so whats the answer? A. Stop uncontrolled immigration into this island. A.Find those already here illegally and send them "home", Many asylum seekers and refugees are in fact not fleeing persecution but are in reality seeking a better life because their own countries are not as prosperous as the uk they do not offer free eduction healthcare housing etc a prime example is the rag bag army of refugees waiting on the beaches of france for their very own Dunkirk to transport them to a better life.
Re: immigration and housing
[info]lexyboy wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:52 am (UTC)
What you'll find is that if you're just lazy white moaning trash (or any colour trash but I wouldn't want to confuse the issue), you go to the back of the queue where you deserve to be. If you want to be a constructive member of society, you get a chance, no matter where you're from. And that's something we should be proud of
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Lies
[info]mrwryhta wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:59 am (UTC)
'Black & Ethnic Housing strategy' google that, Then come back and tell me there has been no que jumping.

Every council is signed up to this. It also promotes mono-cultural suburbs, not integration.

One House is too many if we have people struggling here already.
Myth, myrth
[info]predator_rq1 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 08:15 am (UTC)
Tell that to the people on council list for years as I was, only to learn NEW immigrants, fresh from Calais, were allocated a council house almost on arrival, look at Western road in Hastings for example, a new block of council properties were built and allocated to immigrants etc.

I don't know who does these studies or their bias, but it certainly isn't an independent body with no political agenda.

quote: Keith Best, chief executive of the Immigration Advisory Service, said: "The Government is playing to a particular constituency. It won't have escaped the Government's notice that the hard right has been spreading mischief around people to indicate that immigrants are taking their homes and jobs."

Truth hurts doesn't it Mr Best.


Re: Myth, myrth
[info]lexyboy wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:56 am (UTC)
Why not get a job and get rent a house instead of expecting someone else to provide it all? If you're brought up in the UK, black or white, and you're neither disabled nor come from background of poverty, there's no reason why you should need a council house unless you're lazy or stupid.

Well, there's a typical BNP voter for you.
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Housing
[info]ngl123 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 08:25 am (UTC)
The bottom line is that we've had a vast amount of immigration under Labour when there was a housing shortage to begin with. The housing shortage is causing real misery for large numbers of people. This includes not only the people on the now huge queues for social housing but also large numbers of people who cannot afford decent family homes despite having quite reasonable incomes. Meanwhile we continue to have the deeply alienating spectacle of many in the media greeting any slight fall in house prices as a disaster.
'Queue jumping immigrants' are a myth
[info]r129 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 08:58 am (UTC)
It's all in how you pose the question. They will be able to report this because there isn't really a queue any more. It's mainly about need. So if you have 3 kids .....

The bigger question is displacement - pushing out others. On that, the leader of Barking & Dagenham who spouted on TV might care to read his own council's press releases. http://www.lbbd.gov.uk/2-press-release/press-release-menu.cfm?item_code=2989
No housing for local people
[info]sccheshi wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC)
My local town of Nuneaton and Bedworth are currectly looking at way to make it easier for developers to build houses in the borough. Its all part of the apparent need for thousand more new houses across the UK. Yet birth rates in the UK have been falling for years, our local hospital is suposedly closing and moving to coventry at some point int the future, our roads are jammed and our health service, schools and colleges are creaking at the seams. So why not deal with issues such as family break up and make it financially more attractive for married couples to stay together, make it more difficult to devorce, and force both parents to take equal responsibility for their children and impose larges taxes on people who have second homes or houses which are empty.

I'm 34, getting married next year yet both I and my partner live at home with our parents. We have been on the housing list for about 3 years and got nowhere. The main reasons for not moving up the 'list' is due to several factors. I'm not an illegal immigrant, I White English, I do not have kids, i'm not a single parent, I'm not a criminal and havent been irresponsible. Instead we have been responsible citizens and take full responsibility for our actions. This government however rewards thoses who are irresponsible or involved in criminal activities (they even reward themselves with tax payers money) by handing out benefits and housing. Meanwhile, even in this downturn, the chances of us owning even a small house is way beyond us and certainly not something we could do in the foresable future.

An then I watch the news... how many time do you see gun crime, rape, burgulary, robbery, drug smuggling and fraud... and just take a note of they type of people who commit the vast majority (at least serious crimes which are reported on TV news) and you will see its almost all foreigners and they are costing the tax payer millions through police investigations and prosecutions. Of Course, I can't say that... it may be true, it may be what I see on TV but its racists to say such things... no its just the honest truth and observation of the real world based on personal experience.

So you would think that I would be keen for more houses to be built. No, because I love my country and one of the defining things about my country is its countryside, villages, small towns and its wildlife all of which are being destroyed at an alarming rate so that we can house, feed, and employ the rest of the world.

I'm sick of the BBC News showing reports of as they say 'poor' people in africa, the middle east, india.... ever noticed something? All the kids are smiling, everyone is smiling. They might not have satelite TV or a microwave oven or a BMW but they are happy. They want for nothing.... then we sell them this apparent dream... come live in Britain you get everything for nothing. Boy would I love to go and live in a mud hut somewhere and get away from this politics and idiocy of this country.

I'm not racist or a supporter of the BNP, (i have travelled and have many friends in pakistand, Sri Lanka etc) but the main political parties in this country seem anable or unwilling to do the right thing for this country and put its own people first before the rest of the world... as a result, BNP will get my vote purely out of protest. Spoiling my vote or not voting at all does nothing to bring change to this country... but a shock BNP result may just get people thinking.
Re: No housing for local people
[info]bewarethegulls wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC)
Yes you are racist and yes you are a supporter of the BNP. Everyone is entitled to their own views, but don't try and make yourself feel better about your odious ones by prefacing them with "I'm not a racist but..."
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[info]nightside242 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:32 am (UTC)
I used to work in an allocation department, and the only factors that will get you priority on a housing list is being an old-age pensioner, a single parent or having a long-term illness. It's frustrating as hell hearing idiots hammer on about immigrants and asylum seekers getting housing when it's just not true. Asylum seekers have to wait years for their case even to be heard, so chances are they'll have been here a decade by the time they become elligible for council housing, and immigrants aren't allowed to claim ANYTHING until they've paid a certain amount of tax. I really wish people would actually investigate for themselves rather than just believing some imbeciles who blame everything on other people's skin colour.
[info]vgnwtch wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 02:34 pm (UTC)
Oh, but it's so much easier to rant about something and then deny objective evidence or the experience of people actually working in the field as either a conspiracy or naivity. I mean, look at the responses to this article. It explains what has been alleged, and explains why it's rubbish. And the response overall? Loads of furious denial from people who couldn't tell you the 5 criteria for local authority housing, never mind have a clue beyond "I've got a mate who says that someone he knows says that"...

Come on, have a cuppa and accept that we live in a culture in which critical thinking is not only not encouraged but actively opposed, and that the mere presentation of fact is no counter to bigotry.
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Why?
[info]maisy_babe wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 09:55 am (UTC)
Why are immigrants allowed into the country and bring over their families if they go into rented housing paid for by the taxpayer? Surely if they don't have a job to come here to they shouldn't be allowed to enter the country? I'm only a small dog and don't understand things like this.
Re: Why?
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 04:35 pm (UTC)
If you actually read the article you'll realise this isn't the case.
Why let the facts get in the way of yr prejuduce?
[info]shegelu wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 11:05 am (UTC)
It shouldn't surprise me that there are so many comments from people filled with hatred for "foreigners" and "dark skinned" people. After all, any title with a buzz word like "immigration" tends to attract the prejudiced and intolerant. Still, it always does amaze me that people are so easily swayed by the emotional rhetoric of racist ideas that they ignore the basic realities that they see every day.

I'm not even going to bother refuting the belief that Britain is "swamped" by immigrants. Just check the latest population statistics and you will see the truth, if you are not completely blinded by prejudice.

The small percentage of the population that are "immigrants" are almost all engaged in the job market. For every "scrounging foreigner" that you think you see jumping queues, try counting how many times you have eaten curry or Chinese or Thai or Turkish kebabs. Try counting how many times you have been treated by a "dark skinned" doctor or nurse. Try counting how many "darkskinned" people care for your parents or grandparents in rest homes. Try counting how many "foreigners" clean your streets, or your workplace. And remember that most of these jobs are being done by people you think of as "foreigners" because "local people" for years turned their noses up at them!

Before you spout ill informed bile, try to consider if this country could survive without immigrants? Are you going to be the one to wipe shit off a seventy year old's bottom? Is that what you want your children to do when they grow up?


Re: Why let the facts get in the way of yr prejuduce?
[info]chaps25 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 11:17 am (UTC)
"Before you spout ill informed bile, try to consider if this country could survive without immigrants?"

We did ok before
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Dodgy figures to fit the agenda
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 12:21 pm (UTC)
2% of people were "new arrivals in the country" of which 3% were in council property = 0.06% (about 1 in 160)

But further down:

"11 per cent [of new arrivals] were in council property"

These figures are a long way out (nearly 200x) so which figure is correct?

Also over what period does it take to qualify someone as a "new arrival"? I find it particularly worrying that in one of the most crowded parts of Europe our population can grow by 2% from "new arrivals" - while we should be reducing immigration, encouraging people to consider emigration, finding ways to spread people more evenly across the UK and encouraging people to have less children we are continuing to push our population up excessively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=760
Re: Dodgy figures to fit the agenda
[info]shegelu wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 05:44 pm (UTC)
Try reading the figures correctly: "New arrivals in the country represented...less than 3 per cent of those in social housing... More than 60 per cent of new migrants were in private rented accommodation...only 11 per cent were in council property"

Do you want me to spell it out?
3% of social housing tenants were new arrivals. 11% of new arrivals were in council property.

As for the UK needing less immigration, why not think how you are going to spend your old age; we have an aging population who need to be cared for. We British are rather unenthusiastic about working in care, and there are not enough of younger people to make the National Insurance payments to keep the welfare state going. Without immigrants, who do you think is going to staff the care homes, and how will they be paid?

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=949
http://www.thecarer.co.uk/the-consequences-aging-population.html

It truly surprises me that this issue seems of such little concern to you and all the other "worried" people who are not at all racist.
Re: Dodgy figures to fit the agenda - [info]kuma2000 - Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 10:18 pm (UTC) Expand
"Myth" my arse!
[info]colin_brown wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 12:50 pm (UTC)
Re: "Myth" my arse!
[info]almightymat wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 01:26 pm (UTC)

Ah, clever Colin, you are countering one 'myth' with another then, by posting up your funny little BNP propaganda video?

Who's a clever boy then? Yes he is!
Planet Gone Mad
[info]chaps25 wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 07:54 pm (UTC)
I live and work in London and it is indeed a multicultural world. It is a magical world that sometimes makes me feel proud to be white and a part of it all. I look around and think how amazing it is that we have just about every world culture here in London. I have over the years worked with some brilliant talent from around the world and these people contribute a huge amount to society.

I do however find it sad that so many people of all races still attack individuals. I find it sad that there is an element of criminality amongst the immigrant population also. I am daily shocked by the fact that given how far the human race has come we are still divided. I feel sad that given the wars we have waged people still rigorously challenge peoples cultural identity and create upheaval and distress for others. I cannot believe that after we have educated the masses we still have hate, murder, theft, rape, lies, fraud, burglary, vandalism, racism and all the other ills perpetrated by humans. I look on in despair at what we can never be it would seem.

It just makes me want to escape to another planet. Somewhere common decency rules attitudes and life is sweet.
15 years on waiting list
[info]spanielle wrote:
Tuesday, 30 June 2009 at 10:44 pm (UTC)
Well I've been on my local housing waiting list for 15 years, so somebody is pushing in infront of me in the queue! I blame immigrants, but I equally blame teenage single mothers, although at the end of the day it's the government's responsibility to ensure that neither of these groups push in infront of me. My flat is to be demolished soon - God only knows what I'll do then. I'm too white, too poor, too childless. Housing association places are springing up like weeds around here - I've seen a family of Romanian/Bulgarian gypsies sauntering out of one of them.
Re: 15 years on waiting list
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Wednesday, 1 July 2009 at 11:50 am (UTC)
This post, sadly, confirms that the worst thing the government of this country ever did was sell off council housing places. I strongly believe that the BNP would be a non-entity if more council housing places were available. Unfortunately, none of the 'mainstream' parties are addressing this.
Its a myth - yeah right !
[info]fairlypolite wrote:
Wednesday, 1 July 2009 at 11:13 am (UTC)
Seen it happen first hand, it's no myth. I voted BNP and i'm not alone - i make no apologies for it. Racist exist all over the world, particularly where religion plays a big part in it. England - where everything is free and easy (Unless you are English)
No housing for local people
[info]famulla wrote:
Wednesday, 1 July 2009 at 01:56 pm (UTC)
Aye dont get it the house i means that no jump no line small one 2 by 2 by 6 will does th grave like that all day sleep
I very much obliged firozali a mulla small today

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