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Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain

Palestinian refugee 'driven to despair and suicide attempts'

By Nigel Morris, Deputy political editor

Mahmoud Abu Rideh is to be reunited with his family

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Mahmoud Abu Rideh is to be reunited with his family

A terror suspect who has spent the past eight years first in jail and then under a control order that prevented him leading a normal life has won his battle to be allowed to leave Britain.

Mahmoud Abu Rideh, who says he has never been shown any of the evidence against him, was yesterday offered a "certificate of travel" by the Home Office which will enable him to move abroad.

His wife, Dina al-Jnidi, and their six children moved to Jordan in May to live with her parents. Writing in The Independent yesterday, she described how the family had been torn apart by her husband's treatment. His lawyers took his case to the High Court, accusing the Home Office of "irrationally" refusing to issue him with travel documents because of his alleged terrorist connections.

Mr Abu Rideh, who came to the UK as a Palestinian refugee, was among 17 men detained without charge shortly after the 11 September attacks in 2001. He spent four years in prison, and then four more subject to a control order.

Under the terms of this order, he has had to stay inside his home for 12 hours a day, and phone a monitoring company three times a day. Any visitors must be approved by the Home Office, and he is not allowed to have an internet connection. Last year he went on hunger strike in protest.

His lawyers say he has been driven to despair and repeated suicide attempts by the restrictions on his freedom and wants to leave the country. Mr Abu Rideh has said: "I am alone. I don't have friends. Everyone is scared to see me."

After a morning of legal discussion between the two sides yesterday, the court heard that the Home Office was now offering him a certificate of travel. The judge ordered that his legal challenge should be stayed while he considers whether to accept the offer.

Last night, Amnesty International UK, which has led the campaign over his treatment, welcomed the Government's concession. Sarah Macneice, its counter-terrorism campaigner, said: "Mahmoud Abu Rideh will now be able to leave the UK and seek entry to a safe country, and will no longer be subjected to the repressive measures of his Control Order, which have driven him to utter desperation.

She added: "The Home Office should issue this document to him promptly, rather than subjecting him to yet more delays."

Gareth Peirce, Mr Abu Rideh's solicitor, said the document is likely to be issued within two weeks at most.

In 2001, the then Home Secretary David Blunkett described him as "an active supporter of various international terrorist groups, including those with links to Osama bin Laden's networks"; but Mr Abu Rideh has never been tried in court.

After Belmarsh top security prison, he was transferred for a while to Broadmoor secure psychiatric hospital because of his fragile mental health.

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Fascism is alive in Britain
[info]alexweir1949 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 05:19 am (UTC)
Fascism is alive in Britain

The British defeated German and Italian Fascism in the 1940's only to install it in Britain in the 2000's. This treatment of a British Resident is beyond the pall. Britain's moral decadence is now covering a very wide area. The fact that Rideh is a foreigner and Islamic is no reason to excuse or condone or to ignore the uncondonable. British MP's and voters who ignore this kind of thing are in breach of their responsibilities, and should be held accountable.

National Security is an excuse for the persecution of the innocent by the ignorant.

Mr Alex Weir, Gaborone and Harare
Outrageous
[info]49niner wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 05:21 am (UTC)
If even half this tale is true, it's an outrage. It smacks of the activities we used to associate with the KGB and other arms of the Soviet State.

If this man was guilty of the activities that David Blunkett described in 2001, why was he never charged? Innocent until proven guilty used to be the cornerstone of British justice. Lose that, and we lose a big part of what this country used to stand for.

As a nation, I think this story shames us all. I wish this man and his family a better life in Jordan. It's obvious that those coming here for sanctuary from oppression, as this man did, will get no sympathy here, only suspicion. I'm appalled.
[info]publunch99 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 06:02 am (UTC)
In the early years of GWB's presedency, the war on terror rhetoric was full of stuff about democracy. To me the concept of democracy includes one or two principles of justice, which seem to have been violated in this case. One cannot defend
democracy by violating it.

At least, for the time being, newspapers like the Independent are permitted to tell us a little bit about what is going on.
Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]septimusgrunge wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 06:10 am (UTC)
Maybe I should put the other view, I'm pleased to see he is leaving the country. How much has he cost the British taxpayers, how much richer are his lawyers as a result of this gentlemans vist to the UK. I'm not clear why he and his family came in the first place.
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]badalandabad wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 07:58 am (UTC)
"I'm not clear why he and his family came in the first place"

For a start, Israel bombs the sh*t out of the Palestinians (who by the way are all terrorists similar to the subject of this article, according to MOSSAD, GWB, TB et al). I would have that he left Palestine to give a better, brighter and more importantly safe future for his children. But it was not to be.
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]repton4 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 09:35 am (UTC)
Don't you meen Israel bombed the shit out of Palestine after they fired rockets in to Israel killing inocent women and children, There is two sides to every story mate, and don't be pulling the racist card on me because it is only used to silence critics, intimidate opponents, aid compensation and resist prosecution
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]badalandabad wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 10:11 am (UTC)
Yeah let me do the calculations - Palestinians fire some home made rockets which at its worst potent strike kills one or may be two at most (i am not condoning that either), but Israeli attacks kill people in their hundreds indiscriminately (cast your mind back to January this year). Palestinians "terrorists" don't walk into the homes of Israelis and leave their excrements. Palestinian Authority don't impose sanctions on Israel which cuts off the most of the essential supplies leading its citizens to the brink of starvation. Two sides to the story - yes, you seem to be listening to the Israeli side. Agreed some of the Palestinian factions are not helping their cause by their tactics. But let me ask you a question - how would you feel if you were born in a refugee camp and face the prospect of spending rest of your life time in it completely denied of your dignity? If you ask me what is a refugee camp got to do with it - Palestine is a national entity only by name, but in real life existence it is only comes close second to some of the worse refugee camps in the world.
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]repton4 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 10:33 am (UTC)
Ok the Palestinians only killed one or maybe two people also indscriminately, So what your saying Israel should have only killed the same amount, no one should be killing anyone,
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]ligeia_bm wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 12:58 pm (UTC)
honey, don't use the Israeli practice of twisting words into knots to make them mean the opposite of what was said. He never said that Palestinians should kill the same numbers of Israelis. What he said is that this man, like most Palestinians, is a VICTIM of Israelis. That's why he came to the UK, to be victimized AGAIN by a so called democratic state, which was the original question. Then, to justify your racist and biased views, you tried to ignore the fact of what Israel is doing by using the old tactics of comparing Israel's crimes against humanity with the home-made rockets used by a few Palestinians. That's the same mentality that the Nazi used to punish civilian population when the Resistance attacked them in occupied c countries. By the way, that was considered a war crime. Why Israel soldiers committing the same crimes aren't put on trial is beyond me. But anyway, the crux of the matter is that this way was persecuted because of what he was, and the UK authorities acted like the Old Inquisition, refusing to present the proofs against him, even with the Courts, and the European Courts had ordered so. Way to go, land of democracy and freedom. That's the kind of dejmocracy the West is so eager to export to the rest of the world? No wonder most Third World countries look at the West with such mistrust...
Once again, an innocent man persecuted
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 06:11 am (UTC)
Like so many of those held in the the United States accused but not tried, this man has seen his human rights removed without being told what he is supposed to have done and with no means of redress.

The Star Chamber is alive and well in the UK today and makes the country open to charges of double standards when Gordon Brown talks about political prisoners in other countries but retains the right to do the same here.
[info]s1m0nn wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 07:57 am (UTC)
Jailing someone indefinitely on secret evidence, without charge, trial, or even allegation of wrong-doing while denying him access to any kind of process in which he could attempt to refute the alleged evidence is an outrage. If he wasn't a terrorist then, who could blame him for becoming one now?

As cures go, this one is very much worse than the fever. The government that ordered this has deeply shamed the nation.
Terror suspect
[info]sidgreenstreet wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 08:48 am (UTC)
When you live in a small house, flat, barely big enough to house your own family you cannot invite strangers to move in permanently, unless of course you do not care about your own family's welfare. Ironic that the defenders of the freedom of refugees usurp your rights and welcome any number of foreigners to move in with you. Of course they reserve the right to live in greenbelts where building houses for our new guests and best friends is forbidden.
Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]septimusgrunge wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 09:24 am (UTC)
In reply to badalandabad, yes youare right he came to this country for a brighter future, as stated earlier at the expense of the taxpayer. Re Israel did I misread it somewhere, I thought their recent action was to counter the indiscriminate bombing of the Israeli civilian population over a long period of time. And did I miread reports that Hamas got elected at the point of a gun having chased off any one who dared to disagree with them. I could be wrong you know what these news reporters are like.
Re: Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]badalandabad wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 09:34 pm (UTC)
I guess you are looking for The Times. If you have got it wrong, this is The Independent.
Fascism alive in Britain?
[info]leonore35 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC)
I wish those who go on about Fascism could be given the chance to experience it as they are obviously ignorant of thatwhich they talk about. Iran, Burma, N Korea and several other countries where you can be imprisoned or beaten up for uttering the slightest criticsim of the ruling group would be useful; experiences for these people.
The morality of our government is not Christain.
[info]giuseppesaponi wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 11:18 am (UTC)
It is shameful that the U.K. government has treated this man and his family in such a way, but not a surprise, when 80% of our MPs are "Friends if Israel", and most of them are lining their pockets. Where is the outcry from the government or media for that matter of Israel's act of piracy in seizing the ship full of humanitarian aid in international waters as kidnapping the activists on board?

As for repton4: until he tells the truth, nobody will believe him. But if he tells the truth then he cannot support Israel. Zionists have always portrayed the Israelis as victims, but nobody believes it anymore.

The figures speak for themselves. In the three years after the withdrawal from Gaza, 11 Israelis were killed by rocket fire. On the other hand, in 2005-7 alone, the IDF killed 1,290 Palestinians in Gaza, including 222 children.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine
The morality of our government is not Christian
[info]giuseppesaponi wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 11:20 am (UTC)
It is shameful that the U.K. government has treated this man and his family in such a way, but not a surprise, when 80% of our MPs are "Friends if Israel", and most of them are lining their pockets. Where is the outcry from the government or media for that matter of Israel's act of piracy in seizing the ship full of humanitarian aid in international waters as kidnapping the activists, including British subjects, on board?

As for repton4: until he tells the truth, nobody will believe him. But if he tells the truth then he cannot support Israel. Zionists have always portrayed the Israelis as victims, but nobody believes it anymore.

The figures speak for themselves. In the three years after the withdrawal from Gaza, 11 Israelis were killed by rocket fire. On the other hand, in 2005-7 alone, the IDF killed 1,290 Palestinians in Gaza, including 222 children.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine
8 years
[info]leonore35 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 11:29 am (UTC)
4 years in jail and 4 years under a control order does not equal 8 years in jail as your headline says
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the case at least be consistent
Many people in UK spend most of their time in their home and do not have internet but they are not driven to despair or suicide. What I do not understand is that people are usually complaining about it being next to impossible to deport people and here we have a man who really wants to leave and can't.
Bit like G: Bay actually
He seems to think he will be more free in Palestine or some mid east country, I hope he will find the freedom he wants but not to blow people up! I hope he will convey to others that UK is not a soft option! Though I doubt it.
The Israelis gave up Gaza against the wishes of many Jews and as a result got a takeover by extremists, who murdered their Fatah rivals and imposed a repressive regime on their people. The Israeli response was perhaps too severe but its critics easily forget or choose to forget, that terrorists have been killing Israelis for decades indiscriminately with suicide bombers (even female and children) and rockets which are not toys as one writer suggests, they still kill innocent people. Not to mention the plane highjackings and massacres of earlier times.
The stories of how Israeli doctors often treat sick Palestinian children are rarely reported. The Israelis can hardly be blamed for intransigence when they are faced with an enemy equally intransigent and devious. As far back as Suez Arab soldiers were using the civilian population as shields, ask any soldier who fought there. Of course it is God's work to destroy the Infidel so anything goes.
Re: 8 years
[info]philshahak wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC)
Decent of the Jewsh supremacists to "give up" Gaza which they were illegally occupying. Now if they "give up" the West Bank and East Jerusalem which they are also illegally occupying...
Re: 8 years
[info]chanch5 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 01:01 pm (UTC)
"4 years in jail and 4 years under a control order does not equal 8 years in jail as your headline says
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the case at least be consistent"

Ok, let's try being consistent:

1)It wasn't the headline. 2)If you want you may read the relevant part of the sentence correctly. Here it is: "A terror suspect who has spent the past eight years first in jail and then under a control order that prevented him leading a normal life has won (etc.) 3) You hope he will not "blow people up" ? I would hope that about anyone in the world, including you and me, but here you are taking a step further than even the British government by insinuating he might, since it is worth recalling they NEVER ACCUSED HIM OF ANYTHING.

I find your ideas about a "soft touch"(sic) unworthy of the human race.

I thank you,

Chanch.
deception and lies
[info]twelve_three wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
These people are patsies and scape goats, I have never come across any trouble with the law or MI5 due to what I write, it goes to show they are making it all up, there is no war on terror, there is just these idiots Free Masons who have an agenda to challenge the Almighty God that there can be another god, Satan, is who they serve, they don't show it but that is what Free Mason implies, devil worship.
All these bombs going off in poverty stricken places like Iraq, beggars the question who has the knowledge the expertise and the equipment to make such bombs, when most Iraqis are unable to go down the street without there being the presence of foreign troops and police, then where are these bombs coming from?
It is the same in the mental health, first they put you on drugs and then you develop symptoms, that were not apparant until after the drugs were administered, and then they show you the problem. Whereas with Iraq they are promoting their war on terror, by showing all these what are assumed suicide attacks, when they instigated them in the first place.
Out of all the things they know, the Iraqis seem to be able to make bombs from nothing.

DECEPTION that is what it is, just deception and lies. Decieiving is a Devil attribute, so be warn of this Masonic power mad group.

You can report me to the MI5 tell them whatever, they wont do a thing, I'm sure of it, it is just deception this war on terror.
such a pity....
[info]maisy_babe wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 01:54 pm (UTC)
......that the usual sduspects aren't rounded up and summarily deported. Unfortunately we provide money to pay lawyers to argue for years why these deadbeats shouldn't be kicked out. Here's one who wants t go but the 'authorities' want to keep him. Why?
Re: such a pity....
[info]chanch5 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 02:54 pm (UTC)
The usual suspects being Benicio del Toro, Kevin Spacey and a few more? Or did you mean you?
No Compassion
[info]andy108 wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 02:52 pm (UTC)

God bless this man and his family.What has Britain become?
Abu Ridah
[info]terry_hamblin wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 06:03 pm (UTC)
Still not sure what he is doing in the UK. If he is an asylum seeker he should have sought asylum in the nearest safe country - Egypt, Syria, The Lebanon, the Gulf states, Saudi, Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, Bosnia, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, France, Germany; they are all closer than here. Could he perhaps be an economic migrant or even a terrorist?
Terror suspect wins battle to leave Britain
[info]capindi wrote:
Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 08:40 pm (UTC)
I'm quite pleased that this man and his dependents are now to be paid for by the UNHCR.

It'll clear a little room for our own, and stop the Taxpayer funding him, his very large family, and no doubt a small army of Civil Servants and Lawyers.

A palestinian should never have been granted asylum in the UK - it's hardly the first safe country near the Middle East !
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