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Troops 'too fat' to fight in Afghanistan

By Tom Morgan, PA

Britain's war effort in Afghanistan is being hindered by a number of frontline troops too fat to fight, according to a leaked Army memo.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed today it had directed military chiefs to ensure units are following Army fitness policy after concerns were raised over a "worrying trend of obesity".

The Army needs to "reinvigorate a warrior ethos and a culture of being fit", according to the leaked memo apparently sent to all Army units and obtained by the Observer newspaper.

The memo from Major Brian Dupree, of the Army physical training corps in Wiltshire, said basic fitness policy "is not being carried out".

Units were routinely failing to fulfil the Army's basic fitness regime of two hours of physical exercise a week, he added.

The memo leaked to the paper said: "The numbers of personnel unable to deploy and concerns about obesity throughout the Army are clearly linked to current attitudes towards physical training."

There are 3,860 Army personnel classified as PUD - personnel unable to deploy - with a further 8,190 regarded as being of "limited deployability" for medical reasons, it was reported.

Major Dupree added: "The current Army fitness policy states that to be fit to fight requires a minimum of two to three hours of physical activity per week. It is clear that even this most basic policy is not being implemented.

"To cope with the demands of hybrid operations in Afghanistan and future conflicts the Army needs personnel with that battle-winning edge that sustains them through adversity. It is clear this message has been diluted recently and this attitude must change.

"The increasing PUD list and concerns over obesity in the services are clearly linked to this indifferent attitude."

An MoD spokesman said: "Following a review of recent evidence, direction has been given to the chain of command to take action to ensure units are following the Army's fitness policy."

The revelations came on the day a hard-hitting report on British efforts in the war-torn country by a committee of MPs was published.

Since deploying to Afghanistan in 2001, the UK has suffered from "significant mission creep" with an ever-growing list of responsibilities, including drugs, human rights and state-building, which have made it more difficult for the Government to explain the purpose of Britain's mission, said the report by the cross-party House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee.

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Good thinking
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 11:59 am (UTC)
It's to makeup for the lack of armour. Praise the Lord and pass the pies!
It's a subconcious self protection mechanism
[info]fourpie wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 12:24 pm (UTC)
The human subconcious is not stupid even if the thinking part of the brain lacks common sense in some. Avoiding the worst of the fighting and highest risk of death is a powerful incentive to remain as a PUD, no matter what the higher levels of the brain protest.
illegal war
[info]ukcannonfodder wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
why are we allowing our soldiers to commit war crimes in this illegal aggressive war, why does the US & UK government keep saying that the Afghan government asked us to be there to help, when it was the UK & USA war machine that overthrew the previous Afghan government & installed their pro western puppet government while aparently trying to find Osama Bin Laden whom was part of Al-Qaeda not the Taliban!

what is the trans afghan pipeline?

http://ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm


May 15, 2001
Regarding the placement of the Unocal Pipeline, a US Official delivered this ultimatum to the Taliban (via the Pakistani delegation acting as their interlocutors): "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs."


http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7332

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fat
[info]x3031411 wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 02:20 pm (UTC)
Armies and war are redundant in the C21st. Stop funding this fatheads NOW!
PUD - personnel unable to deploy
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
Or as, we like to call it "PUDDING"
2 hrs
[info]1maia wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 03:01 pm (UTC)
I get at least 2 hrs of exercise a week and i'm obese....why did they put people like me through hell at school (no coordination = everyone hates you due to team sports) when masochists who join the military do only 2hrs. Swap!
[info]botegogae wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 03:54 pm (UTC)
The Falklands exposed the poor physical fitness of many of our soldiers. If I remember rightly many a senior NCO was demoted for failing to maintain his troops fitness. Some may have been sacked if memory serves. Commanding officers too were made well aware of the consequences to themselves if they didn't ensure their own regiments battle fitness. Even those commanding armoured regiments!

The Army which sets such store by regimental and military history seems to have forgotten an important lesson that war has taught them. This combined with New Labour's insistence that 'we' can 'win' flies in the face of other lessons that military history in Afghanistan has taught us and yet the government still likes to flex its military muscle to impress the USA.

Ask six New Labour MPs as to why we are in Afghanistan and you will hear six different reasons ranging from 'The War on Terrorism', 'making Britain's streets safe', 'enabling muslim girls to go to school', 'upholding human rights' and even 'to fight (islamic) facism'. And all points in between.

The soldiers can be made battle fit but it seems that pride, hubris, arrogance cannot be beaten out of New Labour. Instead it is being beaten out of our soldiers in lieu.
If our lads need to.......
[info]dydor wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 05:16 pm (UTC)
'reinvigorate a warrior ethos and a culture of being fit', try to capture an Afghani PT manual. Don't see many fat Talibs. Find out how they maintain that 'that battle-winning edge'.
Too fat by half
[info]adroog wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 05:39 pm (UTC)
I, too, used to be too fat to fight but found redemption in a wonderful DVD which cured me. All I had to do was sing along and dance energetically to it and I was completely cured in 3 months.
Sad to relate, but the DVD is no longer availabe but it's best song, Too Fat To Frug can be downloaded from www.myspace.com/edotoole2

I am going to recommend to O'Toole that he contacts the armed forces and sorts them out. He could become some kind of hero and get a medal for it.

Stay fat, stay alive
[info]fin_d_empire wrote:
Sunday, 2 August 2009 at 07:09 pm (UTC)
The "personnel unable to deploy" are the smart ones, diligently working on those beer-bellies that keep them safer from IED's than the best armored personnel carrier in the world. Anyone who pumps iron so he can be the first one in his unit to get blown to pieces needs a brain replacement.
Agreed to fat, to thin, to precious
[info]peterwarrender wrote:
Monday, 3 August 2009 at 07:31 am (UTC)
Our troops are to fat to fight anywhere. They are also to thin, to precious and should not be putting their lives on the line for big business under any circumstances.
8 years on, Superpower could not beat a bunch of naked hands and bare feet Taliban.
[info]djangovsartana wrote:
Monday, 3 August 2009 at 05:59 pm (UTC)
8 years on, Superpower West could not beat a bunch of naked hands and bare feet Taliban.
Too Fat To Fight
[info]illumanati101 wrote:
Tuesday, 4 August 2009 at 12:05 pm (UTC)
As soon as we look at GM Food the obesity crisis would be over...it seems to me it didn't take but a couple of years after GM Food was on the shelves that the obesity crisis started as well as higher allergies and digestion illnesses...it is all related to us being fed poorly untested for the greedy few that it is GM FOOD doing the damages....

Funny how we have entrusted the nastiest chemical companies on this planet with our food and health...no wonder everything is sick and dying....for the greedy few they will kill and mame millions of people....I am so sick and tired of the whole GD mess...when are we going to stand up for ourselves and demand better because this is horse crap all the way around being forced into their mad science.
Fatties
[info]neil639 wrote:
Tuesday, 4 August 2009 at 04:24 pm (UTC)
I would have thought that the fatties will make easy targets for the Afghan fighters who want the foreign invaders out of their country.
Should we be fighting Iraq and Afgan war now?
[info]leebo56 wrote:
Thursday, 6 August 2009 at 01:24 am (UTC)
Well i think we should be fighting with North Korea , Or at least helping the poor people of that country After all we know they have , Not might but do have Nuclear Weapon,s , So why are fighting in Iraq Afghanistan now. were are the nuclear Weapon,s or so called weapon,s of mass destruction in Iraq? , And after all we don't know much about North Korea , But one thing we all definitely know they do have weapons of mass destruction. And (Kim Jong-il) is a known dictator who is putting his own people through nightmare,s of shear torture and killing his people for the most absurd things possible , And this was all happening a long time before (Saddam Hussein) started shouting out loud towards the west , So somebody please tell me why have we let North Korea not just have Nuclear weapon,s but let them start testing them right before our eyes and nobody is doing anything too stop them , But around the world governments are banging on about Iran And nobody knows for sure if they even have any Nuclear Weapons , North Korea have them and they will use them when they get the chance , So is (North Korea) not the biggest threat at this present time?
Troops too fat to fight
[info]bedsonlegs wrote:
Monday, 14 September 2009 at 09:28 am (UTC)
Well so is the goverment "fat cats", the MOD and all associated with the UK forces, and remember this, at least they can fight for the UK nation, the goverment don't www.bedtrader.co.uk

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