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Alarm over rise of BNP

Take action to stop far-right party winning seats in European elections, Brown is urged

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

The British National Party is on course to win its first seats in the European Parliament this year, Gordon Brown has been warned. Senior Labour figures have told the Prime Minister they believe two BNP candidates are likely to be sent to Brussels under the proportional representation system of voting, The Independent has learnt.

They fear Labour’s campaign for the European election in June has been too slow to get off the ground and its lack of preparation is allowing the BNP to win over disaffected Labour voters.

Yesterday, the far-right party was celebrating a surprise win in a council by-election in Swanley, Kent, where the BNP candidate took 41 per cent of the vote after Labour’s support collapsed.

It is the first time the BNP has won an election in a southern English county, and shows it is broadening its appeal beyond its traditional northern heartlands. The party also polled more than 28 per cent of the vote this week in a council by-election in Thringstone, Leicestershire – a seat it had never contested before.

Mr Brown has been told the BNP has a strong chance of fielding successful candidates in the North-west of England and Yorkshire and the Humber. A senior Labour source told The Independent yesterday: “We have got to get our act together – and very quickly. No one is focusing on the European elections; no one knows who is in charge.”

Last night, the former minister Peter Hain warned that every political party was guilty of “complacency” over the threat posed by the BNP.

He said: “Everybody across the political spectrum – especially the Labour Party – has to prioritise beating the BNP with a vigorous strategy based on grassroots politics to win local trust and also making sure we deliver on affordable housing and deliver on jobs.

“There is very fertile territory for [the BNP] now. When people are losing their jobs and there is an economic downturn... it’s heaven-made for them.”

Labour officials believe the BNP is well placed to attract support from the UK Independence Party, which won 16 per cent of the vote at the last European election, but has since imploded. They are also worried that disillusionment with the Government among traditional Labour voters will tempt them to support the BNP or not turn out at all.

The UK is divided into 12 regions for the European ballot, with voters asked to back parties rather than candidates. In practice, a party must win between 8 and 13 per cent of the total votes cast to have at least one representative picked from a list of nominees, depending on the size of the region.

In the North-west, where the BNP leader, Nick Griffin, is its main candidate, the party has to add only two or three percentage points to the 6.4 per cent of the vote it secured in 2004. In Yorkshire and Humber, where the BNP polled 8 per cent last time, it probably has to increase its support by three or four points.

Jon Cruddas, the Labour MP for Dagenham, who campaigns against the far-right group, acknowledged that conditions look better for the BNP now than they did five years ago, when it last came close to winning a seat.

Mr Cruddas said: “Five years ago, Ukip did very well and five years ago we had a benign economic environment. Now there is a global crisis. Everything else being equal, it’s going to be tricky.”

The BNP’s ability to spring surprises in previous no-go areas was underlined on Thursday during the ballot in Swanley St Mary’s, which used to be a rare, Labour-leaning ward on the Tory-controlled Sevenoaks District Council. The BNP’s Paul Golding captured it with a majority of 76 over Labour. The Tories finished third.

Mr Golding said afterwards: “I’m going to put British people first on the housing queue. I’ve had lots of complaints that foreigners and asylum-seekers are getting ahead of them.”

A Labour activist, Lesley Dyball, claimed that a group of people who walked out of the building where the polling station was sited, holding what she believed to be a BNP leaflet, were laughing and shouting “blacks out”.

The BNP’s victory at Swanley follows its near-miss last month in an election in the neighbouring London Borough of Bexley. Simon Darby, the deputy party leader, said it would mount a vigorous contest in the European elections, adding: “We are in place for 10 seats and we’ve worked out if we can secure around 8 per cent of the vote we will take one of them.”

The BNP threat will be highlighted today at a London rally organised by the group Unite Against Fascism (UAF). Speakers include Mr Hain, the former London mayor Ken Livingstone and Ennio Odino, a Holocaust survivor. The UAF secretary, Weyman Bennett, said: “Hitler used the economic crisis of the 1930s to gain a hearing for racists and murderous policies.”

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Alarm Over Rise Of The BNP
[info]100_wat_tyler wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 12:37 am (UTC)

It is a lie that the odious BNP have no aspirations beyond the shores of Britain.

I have it on good authority that they have already begun brainwashing feeble-minded astronauts and government scientists in a bid to spread their filthy racist propaganda throughout the cosmos.

The evil Nazi vermin are hell-bent on discovering new immigrant life forms and, just as soon as they have, will stop at nothing to wipe them out, in a sickening quest for intergalactic white supremacy.

Their vile Fuhrer, Herr Griffin, is already redrawing maps of the cosmos and renaming everywhere the Sudentland, Austria or Poland - places the evil Nazi demagogue plans to stomp across in size 27 moon jackboots to start an intergalactic race war.

I've seen his 1000 year plan - and it really puts the EU into perspective.

For the sake of cosmic democracy I, and a whole host of despised Anglophobic politicians, corrupt union officials, xenophilous Church leaders, Z-list 'celebs' and legal aliens respectfully suggest (with menaces) that you do not vote for these space age knuckledraggers.

Vote for anyone else (they're all identical), stay at home, listen to some hopeful pop, take up a peaceful religion, form a vibrant urban street collective - just don't vote BNP.




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[info]smithsfan82 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:32 am (UTC)
That's funny... probably one of the more intelligent comments I have seen on the LJINDIE message boards.
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Nu labour's Legacy
[info]singingbird85 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 12:44 am (UTC)
I have read today that the national Debt under Nu Labour is 2.2 trillion pounds!!This figure is incomprehensible.I have read and been taught(please correct if I am wrong)that the Planet Earth is 5 thousand million years old.Right let us get this into some kind of perspective.
The definition of a Trillion at its lower (U.S.A.) estimate is 1 million million.As a percentage of this figure,the years of the Earth's age is approximately 0.25 % of this figure.There have not been one million days since Jesus Christ's birth.
The British figure for a trillion is 10 to the power of 18.The U.S.A. root is 10 to the power of 12.
Now people do you get an idea of how this Nu Labour shower of destruction have wrecked everything!!??
So how much damage has Nu Labour inflicted on our Country in terms of Mass Immigration,Political Correctness,Bullying,Destruction of our Culture.To get things into perspective,I suggest 10 to the power of 12 at least!!
Re: Nu labour's Legacy
[info]jonmcculloch wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 09:36 am (UTC)
"we live in a christian country if people do not like that then leave"

I'm a white Brit and I'm not Christian. Why should I leave because I don't like the fact your irrationatl belief in supernatural mumbo-jumbo has a place in telling ME how I should live MY life?



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The pendulum swings to the right
[info]nilcarbarundum wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC)
This shouldn't really come as a suprise though; far right parties almost always see an increase in support during times of crisis (a la the National Front during the Thatcher era), it is after all rather easier to asign blame to a scapegoat than perform some national soul searching about the real causes of problems.

I for my part am ambilivalant to the BNP, like a lot of people I've talked to in my generation (1st year university undergrads/gap year students). We find racism abhorant in most if not all of its forms. But on the other hand Islamism scares the living daylights out of us and we can't see any paplpable benefits of the EU. Also, we're sick to death of the corruption evident in the main three parties in both houses and their apparant inability to actually do anything without a commitee. Needless to say most of us are not planning on voting at the next election. Those that do have party affiliation seem to be right leaning; two registered BNP members live in my halls.

Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Re: The pendulum swings to the right
[info]singingbird85 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:05 am (UTC)
If you are not a Socialist before you are twenty you do not have a heart.If you are still a Socialist when you are thirty you do not have a head.
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Labour is racist
[info]repton4 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:03 am (UTC)
Labour are racist towards British white people, they are providing the fuel for the BNP with there failed asylum and immigration polices and there reward culture to islamic terrorists, we are an accepting country but our generosity has been taken advantage of big style, Labour do not care about the indiginous people of Britain they have taken away our culture and customs and replaced it with Muslims and immigrants first British people last this as been going on for years and the people are sick of it, we live in a christian country if people do not like that then leave
Re: Labour is racist
[info]singingbird85 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:14 am (UTC)
death to New Labour .Death to them for life for us!!!
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Alarm Over Rise Of The BNP
[info]100_wat_tyler wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:34 am (UTC)

WoOowowowoOwOOOowoOOwooo BNP

Baby Clanger
[info]testing_times wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:44 am (UTC)
"Peter Hain warned that every political party was guilty of 'complacency' over the threat posed by the BNP"
Shouldn't that be: every political party was guilty of 'complacency' over a disaffected electorate generally?

He goes on: the "Labour Party..has to prioritise beating the BNP with a vigorous strategy based on grassroots politics to win local trust and also making sure we deliver on affordable housing and deliver on jobs"
But why this 'vigorous strategy' now? Appears a little late in the day! And why for the purposes of beating the BNP? Shouldn't WINNING TRUST with grassroots politics & DELIVERING on AFFORDABLE housing + 'proper', SUSTAINABLE jobs (along with investment in 'proper' skills) be their objective from the outset? Indeed, arguably their highest priority? (particularly for working classes? Yes, I did say WORKING CLASSES [horrible I know]). After all, they do call themselves (silly I know) 'LABOUR' and not 'PANDERERS TO THE MONIED & MIDDLE CLASS VOTERS'. Then again, they've thrown that 'NEW' into the bargain; seems to have made all the difference!

I feel it's a little bit late for their game of 'catch up' & they're overly worried about a flash-in-the-pan surge of protest votes. Should the Conservatives succeed at the next Gen Elec, BNP support will undoubtedly disintegrate. 'New' Labour have blown any chance of a revival with this lot.

As for the rest of us: new party please and a new electoral system to boot.
[info]100_wat_tyler wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:52 am (UTC)

I really must apologise for Baby Clanger's earlier comment.

Unfortunately, like 110% of London primary school children, English is very much his second language and, apparently, he didn't feel confident enough to contribute to the debate in what is, to him, still a relatively strange tongue.

Moreover, he does tend to get rather steamed up about the BNP and quite forgot that some of you down there on the Septic Isle still speak English.

For the record, and to avoid any confusion, I'd just like to make it perfectly clear that he was, in no way, endorsing the odious BNP or any of its vile policies (except maybe for its commitment to weekly bin collections).

Quite the reverse, in fact, as Clangers are, by nature, wooly liberals and most of us would rather endure death by a thousand cuts than be considered 'waycist' or xenophobic Little Clangerlanders.

Wooliness notwithstanding, the Clanger bloc postal vote (religiously filled in by Grandfather Clanger) always goes to ZaNuLiebour - this is seen as the best way of ensuring that applications for Clanger community centres and worship pods are treated favourably by the local council.

Whilst I'm sure the majority of you would find such an alien practice hard to understand, I can assure you that, in many ways, our cultures are strikingly similar.

Take, for instance, how readily we obey orders from our superiors - even YOUR superiors:

In the 1980s, Norman Tebbit told you all to 'get on yer bikes' to get a job - and we did just that.

In 2008, Rageh Omaar told you to get on a plane (at the end of his splendidly inciteful documentary on the wicked earthling, Enoch Powell) - and we responded similarly.

And recently, Clangerland's great leader, the exiled space cadet, Crash Gordon - Saviour of the Universe, told us to get on a space ship to find employment.

Being a superior life form and highly developed and everything, we were only too happy to embrace this cutting edge brand of economic vagrancy. That it meant having to leave our loved ones to go and live in a caravan on Mandel Sun (4000 light years away) was hardly the point; we were exercising our conditioned response as free Clangers - and getting a really nice tan into the bargain.

Intergalaxisation is the future, after all. Intergalactic jobs for intergalactic workers, and all that. Power to the shareholders! Up the Fulham! (we've all seen the repeats of that classic Earth comedy 'Citizen Brown' on Clanger TV Gold).

Incidentally, we don't wish to complain, but many of us woke up (yet again) this morning to find Hope not Hate leaflets stuffed under our lids. As much as we appreciate unsolicited junk mail, it really isn't necessary to keep sending it to us, you know - you're just preaching to the converted.

As it happens, we were discussing this very subject over soup this morning and, quite frankly, we couldn't work out how you Earth people could afford the postage, what with there being a depression on, and everything. Baby Clanger opined that there must be some very rich mothers behind this Hope not Hate campaign.

In Clangerland, where we have a proud tradition of foul play, discredited political parties habitually flout electoral law by funding shady organisations (full of failed communists) to orchestrate infantile smear campaigns against their opponents, while denying them a platform to promote their policies.

In times of particular panic, establishment-approved parties have even been known to close ranks and indulge in disgusting hippy-style cross-party love-ins in an effort to ensure an even more lop-sided playing field. The more astute political commentator can't help but notice that they're all in bed together - and have no clothes.

It is, though, somehow, reassuring to know that this sort of shenanigans could never happen down there on Earth - and especially not in Britainistan, the cradle of democracy. We really do envy you in that respect.


Major Clanger
That photo, hmmm......
[info]daveysprockett wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 02:26 am (UTC)
"BNP supporters out in force in Leeds in 2005"

Nice smear tactics, Independent! What are you independent of, may I ask? It's not the rest of the media, as you use the same "nazi" smears that have been SO UNORIGINAL for many years already! If you chose to simply google the phone number on the placards held by those supporters you would know they are members of the BPP, a well known nazi style organisation, and nothing to do with the BNP at all.

I have to say, the establishment must be running scared from the BNP, as the smears get more ridiculous every single day! Thank god for the internet, as many people are taking it upon themselves to find out for themselves, rather than take in the trash you can buy for 50p everyday at your local newsagent, and many people are finding that they've been lied to for years. The BNP are the only party that can take us away from the current crisis that we are in, and make the country the once beautiful and harmonious land that it once was!
Re: That photo, hmmm......
[info]scrumbow wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:50 am (UTC)
daveysprockett

Thats the biggest load of BULL i've ever heard, these days the BNP are extremely clever and very slick in their tactics.

They have learned from the past mistakes of the NF, Gone are the days of the skin heads (with their uniforms of green bomber jackets, Lace up DMs and short jeans) and in come slick looking intelligent nazis who standing next to you would never look like racist scum they really are.

mmmmmmm reminds me of Nazis in the 1930s.

Its clear that as WW2 fades ever deeper in to the history books, the ugly head of racism is now becoming "acceptable" again as people of today don't know what it felt like.

Even that dim witt Prince Harry used the word P**i to discribe an Asian friend and buckingham palace made it look like it wasn't a racist word when it IS.

BNP supporters are doing their very best to slowly pass on their evil vile views on what ever forums and newspaper comments pages they can get their nazi hands on and more and more vulnerable people being brain washed in to believing the rubbish BNP supporters spout.

Some BNP supporters even say the BNP are not racists, others say they care about the white british people who they reckon have no rights at all now.

All this is taken up by the vulnerable people who don't know any different and who in the past would have voted labour but now with high unemployment and a deep recession are brain washed in to believing the BNP are the best party for our country.

But the best for who ...... the racists.

The more i look at the BNP and their tactics the more it reminds of Nazi germany.

If you look through the history books the same tactics where run and german people from all walks of life felt it was "acceptable" to be racists.

Same thing is slowly happening now in UK and Europe.

Osma Bin laden is the BNPs gift from god with his evil racist scum bags terrorising the world, people are very scared and some think all Asians are terrorists when they are NOT.

This plays in the hands of the BNP as these scared people go straight to the BNP who offer them a false dream of being "safe and secure", but in real life thats not the case as crime in the areas where the BNP have been elected is just as bad as ever.

If it was as low as they reckon it could be, the press would have reported it, but either way BNPs racism has no place in the modern world.

People can dismiss what i say as rubbish but thats up to them.

I accept immigration is a worry, i accept unemployment is a huge worry, i accept housing etc is huge worry, I accept the current government are useless but its not only a worry to white people.

EVERY British citizen regardless of race, religion and colour feel the same way and want things to be sorted out but the BNP and their supporters dont show that. They try make all none whites look bad...... when they are not.

For hundreds of years british people have been any one who are British Citizens and not just white british.

The 3 political parties need crack down on and nail immigration, unemployment and housing etc.

People regardless of race need to be treated equally and farely.

The BNP and Islamists are NOT the answer as there is no place in society for their racism and evil.

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Why the BNP is bound to grow
[info]rickraider wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 02:39 am (UTC)
Unite Against Fascism is the left wing version of the BNP, full of bully boys and politicians like Livingstone who was all too happy to let in Islamist anti-British hate preachers. I am definitely more afraid of these people than the BNP because as part of the Labour party they have undermined Britain for the past 12 years. Their attempt to multiculturalise this land is evil and plain wrong. We are now seeing day by day the damage it is causing our society which is splitting up and segregating. The reason people in Swanley and Bexley are voting BNP is because they see their once peaceful and law abiding neighbourhoods being invaded by ethnic minorities like Somalis who are bringing a frightening and violent culture with them. We find our daily how we have been duped and lied to about the numbers of immigrants from outside of the EU in this country. Today it was reported that British Muslims are supplying bomb parts to the Taliban so they can murder and maim British troops. Nobody wants to talk about the enemy within that Labour has fostered and, as we saw last week with Gert Wilders, appeased. People want their country back, they do not want to feel frightened, they do not want a burgeoning Muslim population that will threaten them and the BNP is the only party who is clearly saying no to immigration. They achieved 42% of the vote in Swanley that is a higher % than the Tories have in opinion polls and this shows the depth of anger amongst white indigenous Brits fed up with the lies and betrayal of their culture and their land.
In addition to my previous comment....
[info]daveysprockett wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 02:48 am (UTC)
At no point in it's history has the BNP used the symbol that is seen on those posters held by those demonstrators, a symbol with well known nazi connections. The BNP has VERY PUBLICLY stated that nazi sympathizers are not welcome, and I believe that your paper, The Independent, is guilty of falsely representing the BNP as skinhead white supremacists. It could not be further from the truth, and i'd advise any rational thinking person to head over to the BNP's online operation to see for themselves how professionally and respectfully the BNP undertake their political operations. Currently I would describe the BNP as the most pro-democratic party in Britain, which isn't hard considering the iron-fist tactics of labour and it's allies in the conservatives and the libdems, but they are the alternative if you want to see a good future for your family.
Re: In addition to my previous comment....
[info]forwardplanning wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 11:22 am (UTC)
Agree
Extremism?
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:17 am (UTC)
Take action to stop far-right party winning seats in European elections, Brown is urged

If NuLabour (Old Labour in Sheep's Clothing) had been attending to the country's ecconomy in the appropriate manner the likes of the BNP would be forced to remain dormant.
As for extremism the BNP are not alone. The responsibility for the severe curtailing of civil liberties in the UK can only be laid at the front door of Nu(bloody)Labour.
Your picture is wrong
[info]rickraider wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:19 am (UTC)
why are you showing a picture of people who are not BNP supporters but part of an extreme fascist group, yet you label them BNP. Surely that is not honest reporting is it?
Re: Your picture is wrong
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:49 pm (UTC)
They're labled 'BNP supporters', not BNP, because they support the BNP.
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Nu Lab Kult hold Britons Hostage
[info]terry_walpole wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:25 am (UTC)
It's a bit bloody rich of Peter hain to say that all parties are guilty of complacency and of not taking the BNP seriously.

Hain and the rest of the NU Lab Kult are solely to blame for this situation:

1. Its traitorous and cowardly subservience to the EU and its authoritarian diktats. If we had been given a referendum as we had been promised the electorate would have spoken and the government would have to have abided by that decision. But no, it lied to us (again!) and just generated more anger.

2. It's open door policy on immigration. A policy that has provided employment to foreigners and propped up the Brown economy with, at best, giving the most marginal of benefit to the exchequer and performing identically to the last years of major's government. The uncontrolled influx and the pressure it placed on public services was felt the hardest by the class that Nu Lab Kult has historically depended on; it's not Hampstead lawyers who are losing their livelihoods to foreigners or being forced to the back of the queue for services like housing. These slights, real or imagined have made people bloody angry.

3. The Nu Lab Kult no longer has any historical connection with the ethos of the Labour Movement (such as it still is). 1997 was the year zero for Nu Lab Kult Great Ideological Experiment. The lineaments of which were the stock in trade of Student Union politics in the mid 70's; baby politics removed from the reality of everyday life, politics as childs game in which we had to pretend that everyone is exactly the same and if they weren't then we'll damn well force that round shape into that square hole. To this end the Lennonesque strand of multiculturalism ran through every policy. The newly arrived didn't have to learn the English of the oppresive white Englishman - you would be fit for only the most menial of jobs but at least you are still speaking khoisan. This unwillingness of Nu Lab Kult to encourage integration has reinforced divisions within society and not bound us together with, at least, a common language. Eventually multiculturalism, or the word at least, was quietly dropped and Nu Lab Kult tippy-toed away from it hoping that no one would would notice but we have and the damage to community relations has been done. Nu Lab Kult hates the white working class, what we eat, what we drink,what we smoke, what we watch on telly and how we find our fun. Is it no wonder that the hate is reiprocated and expressed by support for the BNP.

3. Nu Lab Kult ran scared of scary muslims who angrily threatened to behead us on the streets of this country. While the NU Lab Thought Police couldn't move quick enough to silence a dissenting septagenarian from one of its rallies or arrest a recitee of war dead from parliament square but when it came to a muslim calling for slaughter of me and my kids for not believing in Allah Jack Straw was very unforthcoming and he choked on his words when an eventually feeble 'condemnation' finally came out.

4. Civil liberties. It's not only the skein of legislation that allows every arm of government and state to spy on us that has created such anger. hardly a day goes by without a British government not being able to do this or that because it is against the law. What it doesn't say is that it is usually aginst EU law. The EU whose member countries have given us Hitler, Franco and Salazar for starters. This doesn't matter to the Nu Lab Kult because it doesn't recognise the sovereign country only the internationalist federal Europe.Those in the Nu Lab Kult are simply traitors to this country. It has left unheeded Orwells observation that patriotism is stronger that socialism in Britain and I hope to see him proved correct.

5. The failure of the restructuring of the financial institutions by Brown to asuage the fallout from the Credit Crunch. So now like some banana republic we print more money and fairly soon Bagladeshis bearing fistfuls of Taka will be flocking here on shopping sprees. And good luck to them.

Yawn!! Bloody hell I'm boring myself now. Did I mention the American Oil Wars?

Re: Nu Lab Kult hold Britons Hostage
[info]jonah1947 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:08 pm (UTC)
NEVER A TRUER WORD WAS SPOKEN!!
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Than U Nu Lab, Luv, BNP
[info]terry_walpole wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:42 am (UTC)
Why has this leading article not held Nu Labor culpable for this turn of events?

Who is to blame for this 'broad frustration'? Who has done the frustrating?

Who is to blame for the 'disenchantment felt by poor white communities'? Who has done the disenchanting?

'Isolated in Europe'? Surely it is because we have divested ourselves of autonomy and become absorped into Europe that has generated such frustration.

I agree that it is broad frustration rather than aggresive racism that has benefited the BNP but come on don't be cowardly, point the finger at Nu Labor and its disastrous policies for allowing things to get this far. Independent! pah!!
Common sense
[info]andromedaone wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 04:03 am (UTC)
Out with the old !,labour are strangling this country.Do the british electorate love lavishing benefits and citizenship to foreigners,I think not.Does the BNP fill a void that says,british things for the british,yes.So the battle begins,a fight to regain our country from foreign undesirables,and their families.An end to treating foreign and home grown terrorists, by saying its there human right to kill us all.The madness that blair opened the box to has ruined common sense.The human rights act,has infested whats right and bred whats not.The eu is an anti democratic club,coruption is its biggest achievment to date.We won the war but weve lost the peace,our modern day dunkirk.Lets bring our eu mp's back home,and say no thanks you just dont do it for the british.
Re: Common sense
[info]getgordon wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:23 pm (UTC)
Here Here
I fully agree well said.
Re: Common sense - [info]airborne777 - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 09:50 pm (UTC) Expand
Rise of the BNP
[info]reviddiver wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 04:38 am (UTC)
What can New Labour expect when it has totally abandoned the white working class of this country. I do not support their racists policies, but I know many who will turn a blind eye to this for a promise of a foot up the housing ladder or a better chance of securing a job.

John Fletcher
London
Re: Rise of the BNP
[info]airborne777 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 09:52 pm (UTC)
John, What racist policies can you recite them for me word for from their manifesto. Stop mumbling stereotypical crap that you have heard along the way.
Any surprise?
[info]old_green wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 04:47 am (UTC)
Can anyone tell me a party that represents the working class? Certainly not NuLabour!

The exclusion of working class interests from mainstream political discussion has to lead to the creation of a party similar to the BNP

Since 1992, racism against asylum seekers has been on the political agenda of the main parties . The main parties have in effect been exploiting racism, when they think it is in their own interests.

They have also promoted an agenda of selfishness and disregard of social responsibility.

This situation has been created by the main parties and the remedy lies in their own hands also.
Alarm over rise of BNP
[info]scrumbow wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 05:36 am (UTC)
daveysprockett

rickraider

LOL boy you guys good, I got to hand it to you, you?re the perfect example of how clever and slick the BNP are now, god your wording is good LOL.

Any one who didn?t know what the BNP really stood for would fall for your slick and clever words.

10/10 for effort boys but remember you can?t brainwash people who know about the BNP, NF and other offshoots of this vile and racist party.

As for my comments of comparing the BNP to the 1930s Nazis any one with a brain cell can see both sides, read between the lines and KNOW the BNP and Nazis are the same.

Swanley and Bexley have always been closet racist areas as Steven Lawrence was killed there, but racists who killed him got away with it. Also I think Bexley was where the BNP had their old HQ.

I?m not a member of Unite Against Fascism but they exist to keep tabs on people like the BNP and other racist organisations.

If the BNP where not racist and fascists why rickraider would you and other BNP supporters be scared of Unite Against Fascism ?

You talked about ethnic minorities like Somalis ?invading? and bringing a frightening and violent culture with them.

Ok what about ?white? eastern europeans like Romanians, Poles, Cosovans, Albanians they are ?invading? our country and are you telling me they don?t have their own bad apples with a violent culture ?

Of course they do.

British Muslims who are supplying bomb parts to the Taliban to murder and maim British troops are as VERY small minority of muslims and remember the British Army isn?t 100% ?white?.

Its made up of whites, blacks, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Gurkers they are all part of the British Army but I feel you?re implying that its Muslims trying to kill ?white? British solders only but that?s not the case.

The above is exactly the kind of talk which scares people in to voting BNP as people who don?t know ?ethnics? (as you like to call them) think every one is the same when they are NOT.

daveysprockett

It doesn?t matter if the BNP didn?t use Nazi connection symbols, it doesn?t matter that the BNP very publicaly stated that nazi sympathizers are not welcome.

I?ve heard the leader of your party has a conviction for denying the Holocaust??..

BNP hate ?none whites? and want to ?send them back home??
None whites are excluded from joining the BNP
BNP seeks to reverse non white immigration proves they are fascists and racists who ARE white supremacists.

Under the slick new, professional and respectful look the BNP ARE still skinhead white supremacists but these days they are in suits with normal hair.

No rational thinking person would want to go to their website.

You said ** the BNP as the most pro-democratic party in Britain ** yeah right and the current pope comes from Mars LOL, for non whites the BNP as un democratic as Saddam Hussain was to the people who he bombed and gassed.

If you?re not white the BNP are NOT an alternative to see a good future for your family?? FACT.

While I accept communities do get worse, regardless of race and colour there are always bad apples in every barrel, the 3 political parties need to address these issues and deal with them fast so people will feel safe.

Working class people are NOT only white people, working class are any one from any race and religion.

andromedaone

With respect to people who fought in WW2, Britian did NOT single handedly win the war.

The UK and its allies including USA, Canada, Poland, Australia, India, New Zealand and Russia + solders from the british empire including Gurkers all took part in helping the UK win the war.

So don?t you dare try and say it was just ?white? Britain who won it single handed as your insulting the people of WW2 spilled their blood to give us all (regardless of race, religion and colour) a better a future.
Re: Alarm over rise of BNP
[info]smithsfan82 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
All parties are out for themselves... none of them see themselves "in office"; only in "power". As a neutral in this I think it's quite laughable that you speak of "slick and clever words" yet try to attempt the same smears I have read, without foundation I may add, about a party like the BNP.

For instance the part about "conviction for denying the holocaust" for Nick Griffin; I am not sure if you are quaint with the laws of Britain but I can assure you there are no laws which hand out convictions for holocaust denial.

"None whites are excluded from joining the BNP" - Whites are excluded from joining many organisations in this country.

"BNP seeks to reverse non white immigration proves they are fascists and racists who ARE white supremacists" - What does this mean for the people who invoked the immigration laws then? That they are pro-ethnic? Not fascist? Not racist? Perhaps you have heard about positive discrimination in the police force which is a policy against white people. Perhaps you have heard that in the past 10 years our state has become more fascist under NuLab?

"No rational thinking person would want to go to their website" - Actually a journalist would. Or a lawyer. Or a teacher. Do you know why? Because people want to decide for themselves. This, in direct conflict with your myopic view of life, is entirely rational. I think you have read everything you need to know in the UAF handbook. You want to see real fascism at work? Go to a UAF rally and see for yourself.

Do not make me out to be a "BNP sympathiser" either or a "supporter"; I have had that debate before and blown people out of the water and I am not a white supremacist or anything of the sort. I think the British Empire, though a good force for the world, caused untold damage to beautiful cultures. But I also do not subscribe to the "white guilt" associated with the actions of our forefathers and therefore do not believe we owe taxpayers money to foreigners coming to this country who have no birth right to be here.

If I want to immigrate to the US I need to have a job lined up, a house, insurances and a stack of cash in the bank. I couldn't go there for a handout. Why should people cross borders here for the money? Immigration should be the result of hard work and a willingness to contribute to that society. The ethnic population who do work hard, and I work with some good fellas, are more than welcome in this country and are welcome to call it their own. The shirkers and tax dodgers, both ethnic and indigenous, can leave with a shiny footmark on their backsides.
Re: Alarm over rise of BNP - [info]rickraider - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Alarm over rise of BNP - [info]colinru - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 11:45 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Alarm over rise of BNP - [info]swaddin777 - Sunday, 22 February 2009 at 05:03 am (UTC) Expand
Photo
[info]scrumpytim wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 05:53 am (UTC)
Why are you using a photo of the "White Patriots Nationalist Alliance" (whoever they are) when reporting on the BNP?

BNP
[info]billbreak wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 06:59 am (UTC)
In recent weeks we have seen how ineffectual the three mainstream parties have become. They all want to hand over more power to the EU with the result that they can do nothing about EU citizens coming here to work, cannot deport people and generally have to kowtow to the undemocratic EU on everything. The promised referendum did not materialise in another anti democratic move which serves only to alienate the population of this country.

I reckon that what we are going to end up with sooner than expected is a sort of two party competition between LibLabCon and the BNP. If you are anti EU you have no one to speak for you except the BNP. I looked at their manifesto and there is nothing terrible there. In fact much of it is what most people would be in favour of. Sacking jobsworths, getting police back on the beat, Council house allocation based upon how long you have lived in the area, leave the EU and make our laws at Westminster, re-establish the civil liberties which have been so badly eroded. I will vote for them in the EU elections. They are less frightening than Labour with their police state mentality and the LibDems and Conservatives are going to sell us out to the EU. The BNP is really the only alternative on offer.
Re: BNP
[info]must_tryharder wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 11:16 pm (UTC)
Congratulations on the transformation - did you pay someone to write this based on your previous posts?
[info]rooory62 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:04 am (UTC)
The picture accompanying this article does NOT depict BNP supporters but members of the Nationalist Alliance, an extreme right wing group who believe that the BNP are soft. A clue might have been the banner on the left of the picture.

But I'm sure you knew that
[info]koekemoer wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:40 am (UTC)
The liberal and left wing elite should spend more time down at the local pub talking to the average person off the street to understand the sense of betrayal and real anger that exists at grass roots in this country. In circumstances like these it is hardly surprising that that the BNP will capitalise on the loss of trust in the political system and parties such as New Labour.
[info]johnnynorfolk wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 07:56 am (UTC)
Labour should be listening and acting on behalf of the English people. They are not and that is why people are turning to the BNP.

We already have a police state, now its cameras in pubs. I am not suprised they are gaining support.
[info]tap_code wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 11:18 am (UTC)
Indy is being targeted by the BNP today,enjoy your virtual Nuremberg Rally.

I find it very sad that my father spent four years of his life fighting Fascism,alongside poles Czechs and many other Nationalities from around Europe and the Empire,only to see it rise up again from within.

In April 1945 my father entered Bergen Belsen,the obscene end for some of the victims of Hitlers National Socialism .That is were,ultimately, these ideas end.

Over sixty years on we seem to have developed collective amnesia.

P.S. a police state is a gift to a fascist party,it makes the repatriation/liquidation that much easier
Indy targetted by the BNP - [info]colinru - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 12:07 pm (UTC) Expand
BNP - [info]johnnynorfolk - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 04:27 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]hadit9279 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 08:02 am (UTC)
Look after your own ????????, it's to late for that, you should have done it in the fifties
Nationalism
[info]garryowen1 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC)
I am a natural Tory voter - unfortunately was conned by Tony Blair in 1997 into voting Labour. What a let-down that proved to be.
In the last 10 years we have seen a massive influx of immigrants into the country - too many to be absorbed - and their rights and needs now seem to take precedence over those of the native population. In addition with the introduction of The Human Rights Legislation the needs of every tom, dick, harry seem to trump those of law-abiding citizens. Why do we need to have Binyam Muhamed back in England for instance? Other than spending a short time here he has no connection to UK.
Given all this I would be tempted to vote for ANY party who promised to put UK and it's citizens first on their agenda.
Re: Nationalism
[info]dominicokey wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 09:02 am (UTC)
As much as I despsise the BNP and their inherent lies about what they really stand for, I turn to religion on this; again, it is religion which is really "segregating" the country as some idiot says somewhere above. Nearly every comment speaks of how it is the immigration that is dividing us, yet if those who were coming in did not preach religion(s) that promote and inspire (in some forms) hatred then we would not be having this debate.
Religion poisons everything.


Ps. Don't vote BNP, vote Green or someone nice like that.
Re: Nationalism - [info]skyemartyn - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 09:55 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Nationalism - [info]getgordon - Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:34 pm (UTC) Expand
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