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Cabinet chief: Obama team 'unreachable'

By Amol Rajan and Nick Clark

President Obama will ask Congress to hand over more money for ailing banks

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Gordon Brown secured Barack Obama's backing for moves to kick-start the global economy

Last week, it was all smiles and handshakes as Gordon Brown and President Barack Obama put on a show of unity in Washington.

But yesterday, Sir Gus O'Donnell, Britain's most senior civil servant, exposed transatlantic tension when he protested that Downing Street was finding it "unbelievably difficult" to plan for next month's G20 summit in London because of problems tracking down senior figures in the US administration. "There is nobody there. You cannot believe how difficult it is," the Cabinet Secretary told a civil service conference in Gateshead.

Last night Downing Street insisted the comments – reported on the Whitehall and Westminster World website – had been taken out of context. It added that Britain and the US had established a "very good and close working relationship" in the run-up to the G20 conference in London on 2 April. The Cabinet Secretary's undiplomatic language follows an outwardly-successful 48-hour visit by Mr Brown to Washington, which included talks with the new President and an address to the US Congress. The Prime Minister secured Mr Obama's backing for moves to kick-start the global economy, which he hopes to use to prompt other G20 leaders to support the fiscal stimulus package.

But Sir Gus's remarks will leave ministers smoothing feathers in the new administration, whose support is vital for agreement at the summit.

He made them as he stressed the importance of a permanent civil service rather than the US practice of filling posts when a new President is elected. He said it would be "madness" to introduce a similar system in Britain, because of the need for continuity in major projects such as the 2012 Olympics.

"You get to a certain point, and you can't go any further," Sir Gus said. "A whole new bunch of people come in who probably haven't been in government before." Fifty days after President Obama was sworn in, every senior post in the US Treasury Department remains vacant, with the exception of Timothy Geithner as Treasury Secretary, who should have 17 deputies. The vacuum has prompted complaints that it is struggling to deal with the most severe downturn since the 1930s.

Mr Brown's official spokesman said: "[Sir Gus] was explaining the benefits of the British system of having a permanent civil service. We have a very good and close working relationship with the United States on G20 and other issues. I think last week what you saw was an administration fully engaged on the G20. That is the sense we got."

The Cabinet Secretary's comments were removed from the website after the Government protested.

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ouch it hurt to work
[info]bowesy wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 01:51 am (UTC)
sorry gussy - is it difficult dealing with people who want to deliver? must be hard after 12 years of an easy ride

no banking jobs in sight - where did it all go wrong?

quickly boy where do you dive - oh maybe to your pension.

the civil servants need a complete cleansing and lets start with this prat Fat Dave - god help us!
Sir Humphrey Appleby Speaks
[info]sissoed wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 02:52 am (UTC)
Ahh, this story causes this American to smile with delight recalling the marvelous British television show "Yes, Minister," and "Yes, Prime Minster." Sir Gus is today's Sir Humphrey in every detail. There will always be an England!
Lights are on.....
[info]balink98 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:08 am (UTC)
What did you expect from our Dear Leader? Empty Suit equals Empty House. Horrible manners, it's the Chicago way.
Re: Lights are on.....
[info]borrowed_din wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 07:47 pm (UTC)
You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way.
Re: Lights are on..... - [info]gusto4 - Thursday, 12 March 2009 at 12:45 am (UTC) Expand
It Seems!
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:24 am (UTC)
It seems the new administration across the pond are wary of Gordy and his Goons, can't think why?
Bush
[info]northwest0161 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:34 am (UTC)
Remind me... What exactly did we get in return for our government giving loyalty and support to George Bush? Perhaps it's time to look to Europe, India and China instead?
Re: Bush
[info]johnptelhomme wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 07:34 pm (UTC)
Good luck. Go to China and India. Make sure you make retribution for the Opium trade colonial imposition you imposed about a century ago. Do you remember the Massacre of Amaritsa? Oh yes, these countries looovvve colonial masters.
You're welcome
[info]proudtx wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 05:17 am (UTC)
All we heard over here in the US was how much you worshiped this second coming of Christ Obama. Remember, the great uniter, the one who would cause the oceans levels to drop and bring hormony on earth. Don't blame American's for this dissaster put in our White House. 53% of the dimwits in this counry took a break from doing their nails, wathing BET/MTV or playing on their cell phones long enough to vote for this obhoration. You hated Bush, we got it. Here is you payback. Enjoy the international dissaster you helped create Brittian. Part of me is glad your country got snubbed by your hero. Dont' put down the popcorn yet though....oh no....it's going to get much much better than this. It's very apparent the Great Obama doesn't think much about Great Brittian. He's only getting started.
(I personally hope you find a decent place place for the Churchhill bust....it infuritates me to see the memory of a great man treated so disrespectfully)
Re: You're welcome
[info]canadastan wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:39 am (UTC)
The Obama presidency will be the biggest disaster in American history.
The only silver lining will be watching the left go nuts as they see what a huge bunch of suckers they were to fall for his blarney.
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LEAVE THE YANKS ALONE:
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 05:24 am (UTC)
It is outrageous to describe the American Financial team as inexperienced. They are all top in their fields of finance. At least they haven't been reckless, or asleep on the job, like the team Brown is fielding. The US knows only too well this G20 Conference is all about saving Brown's reputation. They will not be party to such underhand political manouvering and will not bail him out.
Brown has failed and he will not be allowed to bring other countried down with his outlandish schemes. His irresponsible spending and borrowing have been anathema to sensible governments around the World. They see the next two generations of British children unfairly saddled with the biggest debt in history. Brown has failed and they will be extremely wary of his disasterous reputation.

Re: LEAVE THE YANKS ALONE:
[info]akronnyusa wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:43 am (UTC)
"It is outrageous to describe the American Financial team as inexperienced. They are all top in their fields of finance. At least they haven't been reckless, or asleep on the job".

What American financial team? As the article noted, Timothy Geithner IS the team. 50 days into the new administration, Geithner is still the only senior appointee at Treasury.

And Geithner is tops in his field? Geithner couldn't get his own income taxes straight to the tune of over $30,000 US. The back taxes were owed from his stint of employment with the IMF. The financial genius signed statements for the IMF that acknowleged he was liable to pay certain taxes that the IMF did not withhold from his salary.

When it came time to file his taxes, and pay those obligations, however, the financial genius apparently "forgot". When forced to come clean before his appointment as Treasury Secretary, he blamed the errors, and his failure to pay what was owed, on his tax accounting software. Somehow I don't think the IRS would be so forgiving if an ordinary, non-genius used that as an excuse.

Then there's the assumption that Geithner wasn't asleep on the job. Geithner was president of the New York branch of the Federal Reserve Bank. He was ultimately responsible for overseeing all of the big corporate banks headquartered in New York City, you know, all of those banks whose irresponsible lending and investments were the catalyst for the current financial crisis? All of those banks that the American taxpayers have now "lent" hundreds of billions of dollars to?

Geithner wasn't just asleep on the job, he was comatose! Either that, or he was more concerned about scratching the backs of all of his Wall Street cronies than he was protecting the life savings, retirements and investments of millions of Americans.

If Geithner is the best that the American financial team can come up with, then the whole world is in deep trouble.
They don't want us to save the world
[info]tovasco wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 05:51 am (UTC)
I wouldn't want to get to close to anyone who had the plague either.
[info]xokatyxo wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:27 am (UTC)
Rahm Emanuel doesn't like anyone who colluded with the Bush adminstration on so many policies. And, uh oh, Rahm's in charge of the White House phones now. The UK government should expect plenty of "leave a message, we'll get back to you"'s from the US from now on. And deservedly so, in my opinion. That's what you get when you spend eight years being a snivelling little doormat for George W Bush and his administration. (At least that'll be the case until we elect a new bunch. By a landslide. Preferably the Greens, I'd say.)
AK AL HRAGHyIM
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 07:42 am (UTC)
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Rahm Emanuel - [info]livin_in_cin - Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 06:03 pm (UTC) Expand
High tax, high spend Obama
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 08:43 am (UTC)
Obama seems to be a high tax high spending socialist so I am amazed that he is not completely enamored with Brezhnev Brown.
Take heed USA
[info]dorkingboy wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 09:54 am (UTC)
Dear America,
If your new man, in the White House, and all his aids are not nice to our Gordy and his yes men - then Gordy will save all of the World except for the USA. Then you will be sad!
[info]eugenemurnane wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC)
hjghja
For gods sake
[info]jonny_socialist wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 12:03 pm (UTC)
Why are our government so bloody scared to say anything against America.? Its pathetic.
Re: For gods sake
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:05 pm (UTC)
Because once these politicians take their grubby little backhanders and perk packages, they know they are from that point bought men and owned.

America needed us because of the financial centre in London, also because through the commonwealth Britain exerts the largest bloc in the UN's general assembly (Britain votes on the Commonwealths behalf e.g. Britain does what it wants, the Commonwealth gets asked afterwards that is).

But, Obama has already sounded out the EU in allowing direct interface between NAFTA and the EU thus cutting the UK right out of the deal, it means we are probably losing our "most favoured status" as if this goes ahead, we will have to trade as an EU member and that means we are in competition with every other EU state.

It does kind of hint that Obama is going to take the US into protectionism and also allow the current raft of Tariff legislations to go through as well, Brown knows full well what a protectionist America will do to us, even the mighty BAe will be thrown from the Pentagon's top table in favour of lesser US companies.

It is what America needs right now, some people to re-invest and rebuild from within and it would be good for us in the long run because we have got to stop suckling on the American teat and resolve this for ourselves, it doesn't look to rosy for Brown & Co who have done little to prepare for this, zero contingency plans and offered nothing more than knee-jerk reactions in all their attempts to stem the downfall of our economy,
Crawling
[info]proximaking wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 12:56 pm (UTC)
Who cares about what foreigners think whether yank or chink?

They'll be crawling on their belly's to James Gordon Brown soon enough.
Obama and His Cronies.
[info]bootobama wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 02:19 pm (UTC)
Hussein and his gutter trash cabinet are out to destroy the US and any relations it has left.

Hussein wants to talk to the terrorists and communists, but not to leaders of the free world.

Watch out Mr. O. What goes around comes around, and I think the US citizens are coming around...
Re: Obama and His Cronies.
[info]thesavageirish wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 04:17 pm (UTC)

Your banter would indicate that your pejorative use of the name Hussein, (I assume you mean President Barack Obama), means you have a problem with the 'arabs'. I'd hazard a guess and say you are either some redneck klansman from the blue ridge mountains or an angry barista slinging starbuck lattes on the beach in Tel Aviv. Of course a disaffected scatologist listening to too much Rush Limbaugh is a possibilty and if so then keep in mind
the USA is a democracy, Obama was voted in by a landslide, that's how democracy works.
Re: Obama and His Cronies. - [info]iamenchanted - Thursday, 12 March 2009 at 12:26 pm (UTC) Expand
It must be that time of month for Britain...
[info]soloam wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 02:35 pm (UTC)
What is it with you Brits lately?? Is it that time of month or something? You have been real crabby and, dare I say, bitchy as of late! The President is dealing with no less than 10 different crises at the moment,(Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, the stock markets, housing crisis, banking crisis, health care, climate change, Guantanamo etc. etc.) and the only thing you can talk about is how little attention he is giving you. The man doesn't even have a full staff yet!

So come off it and settle down. Once he has a full staff and things aren't so chaotic, he'll start giving you the attention you 'deserve.' Who knows, he might even buy you some flowers. Goodness!!
Re: It must be that time of month for Britain...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:08 pm (UTC)
"The President is dealing with no less than 10 different crises at the moment,(Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, the stock markets, housing crisis, banking crisis, health care, climate change, Guantanamo..."

And why shouldn't he deal with them, after all they are all crises created solely by America who thought it knew best...
Re: It must be that time of month for Britain... - [info]thesavageirish - Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: It must be that time of month for Britain... - [info]gigiisme - Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 03:19 pm (UTC) Expand
Walks and chews gum - [info]thesavageirish - Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 04:51 pm (UTC) Expand
Maybe
[info]tallbendyman wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 04:54 pm (UTC)
the last thing they want to do is to spend any more time with our defective PM? I mean - who in their right mind would want to be around Brown?
Apologies
[info]rational_geezer wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 05:38 pm (UTC)
The fact is that The Ineligible-Affirmative-Action-President O'Bama simply doesn't have to follow civilized protocols because his arrogance and personal experiences have exempted him. He is exempted from proving his eligibility to occupy the Office of President. He can disrespect the special relationship the US has enjoyed with Great Britain by returning the bust of the Lion of the 20th Century and providing a trivial gift in response to the well-intentioned overtures of Prime Minister Brown during his recent visit. The Affirmative-Action First Lady is exempted from adhering to expected courtesies toward the Prime Minister's wife. O'Bama is exempted from appointing law-abiding honorable individuals to his cabinet. He is exempted from answering any phone calls from stalwart allies, but he can arrogantly pander to our mutual enemies.

Britain's long history has included the occasionally arrogant and incompetant royalty, so I am confident that you will recognize our current unqualified Ineligible-Affirmative-Action-President as a temporary phenomenon and accept my humble apology on his behalf. I hope you return Churchill's bust after the current embarassment passes into history.
Re: Apologies
[info]thesavageirish wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 09:32 pm (UTC)

All 42 ddd cup of it. Please come get it. Every neocon since the late nineties has been suckling off it and now we're all bust.
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[info]thomas_jx1 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:00 pm (UTC)
Wow. I heard Obama told a joke about the Queen.
Rude Americans
[info]phaze39 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:06 pm (UTC)
Sorry. We are in meetings and strategy sessions trying to save the world economy. If you do not like to wait then come up with a competing plan. Americans will be ending the tenure of incompetents in our government. We suggest you do the same.

PS If you need financial help, you could opt for the French way of dealing with royalty hording fortunes.
PSS Everyone in England should go to a dentist right away as this will require a tremendous consumer input monetarily and improve your social lives - movies, Pub, dinner, Jewlry, clothes, domestic assaults, increased police presence, divorce, more Pub, Pub fights, more dental work....
Re: Rude Americans
[info]livin_in_cin wrote:
Saturday, 14 March 2009 at 06:07 pm (UTC)
hey phaze

they're actually coming up with ways to further f*ck up the economy by taxing what has survived thus far into the ground and regulating the rest of it into oblivion. What does the US and - by extension - the world economy need? cap and trade (TAX) and unfettered unionization? gee - that's FUCKINBRILLIANT!

What Obama and his boys will do is have us yearning for the halcyon days of the Carter economic malaise... enough dentist jokes too - why don't you get a job and move out of your step-dad's basement?
[info]mr_scummy wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 06:58 pm (UTC)
Perhaps the new US team is busy doing their jobs and earning their remuneration - something our British government ought to try some time.
John Paul Telhomme
[info]johnptelhomme wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 07:28 pm (UTC)
Does your gracious Knight, Sir Gus O'Donnell, Britain's most senior civil servant, know how to send a text message or used a Blackberry? Using either means will solve the problem and he will no longer require busy senior White House staff to sit and wait and watch the telephone all day waiting for his call.
Oh, Please!
[info]pixaholic wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 07:51 pm (UTC)
"It seems the new administration across the pond are wary of Gordy and his Goons, can't think why?"


More likely, as explained above, they're just in over their heads, especially in Treasury. They'll find their sea legs, but it'll take some time. There are pluses and minuses to a shadow cabinet, and this is certainly one. The US government is designed to protect the citizenry from its' predations, not for efficiency.
What does he expect?
[info]cikan wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 08:26 pm (UTC)
Mr. Obama had campaigned on change and hope. The 'change' turns out to be that nobody's there to do the work, and the 'hope' must be that nobody cares. It's all right, then.
Isn't it obvious
[info]rjc18 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 March 2009 at 09:10 pm (UTC)
Crash Gordon is so insignificant why bother being contacted by his henchmen. If I were Obama's team I would steer well clear of being associated with this bunch of halfwits oh! I'm giving them too much credit I meant quaterwits and lets face it in 12 months or so they will be hasbeenquaterwits (wow! big word)
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