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Data Bill 'will wipe out privacy at a stroke'

Fears that use of personal notes may see widespread release of sensitive records

By Ben Russell, Home Affairs Correspondent

Jack Straw: Bill would 'reduce burdens on taxpayers and businesses'

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Jack Straw: Bill would 'reduce burdens on taxpayers and businesses'

Sweeping new laws to allow ministers to release the private details of millions of people to a string of public bodies or private firms have been condemned as being "open sesame to a vast increase in government power".

Opposition MPs joined human rights campaigners in attacking the new powers, warning that they could lead to the widespread release of medical records and other sensitive data.

As MPs opened debate on the Coroners and Justice Bill, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats branded the plans an unacceptable extension of the state, while the all-party Commons Justice Committee called for greater safeguards to protect the public against the sharing of information.

Genewatch, a genetic technology pressure group, warned that proposed data-sharing powers could ultimately open the door to the creation of a national DNA database linked to medical records. It said the Bill could allow DNA samples taken for medical reasons to be released alongside people's medical records. Dr Helen Wallace, the group's director, said it would "wipe out the personal privacy of everyone in Britain at a single stroke".

Under the proposals, ministers will be able to draw up new information-sharing orders that would allow them to release private data – such as tax returns, personal details or medical records – to any public or private body.

Orders would have to be vetted by the Information Commissioner, the official freedom of information watchdog, and approved by Parliament.

Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, insisted yesterday that sharing data between government departments would reduce the burdens on taxpayers and businesses.

But Dominic Grieve, the shadow Justice Secretary, said the plans would "drive a coach and horses through the traditional relationship between the state and individuals" to serve a "nebulous case of public good". He warned that the Bill would allow ministers to share medical records with organisations that had no link to people's health.

Mr Grieve said that clauses "tucked away" at the back of the Bill would give ministers "carte blanche to expand data sharing between officials across Whitehall, with local authorities and even with companies in the private sector". He added: "This should be done with great caution and should not be open sesame to a vast increase in government power."

David Howarth, the Liberal Democrat justice spokesman, said the data-sharing proposals were "outrageous". He said: "These provisions will allow all the restriction on data sharing in the ID Cards Act to be overridden and drive a coach and horses through all other restrictions on medical and DNA records. These plans are not confined to government departments and other public authorities. They would allow unlimited data sharing between private sector organisations and government and the private sector, whether in this country or abroad."

Ministers insist that tough safeguards would prevent the misuse of data. The Information Commissioner would have to investigate any proposed data sharing, which must then be approved by MPs and peers. But members of the Justice Committee called on ministers to increase the safeguards in the Bill.

Mr Straw said that data sharing powers could help relieve the burden on bereaved families who were forced to notify a string of public bodies when a relative died. He said: "Responsible data sharing between the relevant agencies would reduce the number of people who need to be notified of a death, thereby helping to relieve distress."

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Data sharing at the EU level
[info]sid_bill wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 12:57 am (UTC)
This is only the beginning. 11 million children are now on the huge ContactPoint database; how many parents are even aware of the name? This Data sharing bill introduces the National Identity Register by stealth and, once operational, will mean that, not only will your personal information be shared at a national level but, at a later date, at the pan-European level.
IDABC stands for Interoperable Delivery of European eGovernment Services to public Administrations, Business and Citizens. We are told that IDABC : takes advantage of the opportunities offered by information and communication technologies:-to encourage and support the delivery of cross-border public sector services to citizens and enterprises in Europe.
Namely, your information will be shared between all 27 countries of the EU. I'm glad that my surname is nor Smith or Jones.
Data Sharing
[info]paranoid61 wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 04:01 am (UTC)
They way in which the current government attempt?s to bury changes to legislation inside bill?s which have no apparent connection to the law which the amendments actually alter is at best deceitful. In the past this tactic has borne fruit and legislation which on the surface appears to be benign has been passed by parliament, it is only at a later date or when combined with other apparently innocuous legislative changes that the real damage to our civil rights can be seen. A common law established circa 1300 and subsequently upheld in the courts, as in the Semayne?s judgement 1604 gave rise to the phrase ?An English man?s home is his castle?, and it was when William Pitt (the elder) made his speech in 1760 from, "The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the force of the Crown. It may be frail, its roof may shake, the wind may blow through it. The rain may enter. The storms may enter. But the king of England may not enter. All his forces dare not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement." That law stood until 2004 when the government introduced changes via its ?Domestic Violence, Crimes and Victims? bill. The bill contained changes which had nothing to do with the bill?s title whatsoever and allowed forced entry to any premises for the collection of unpaid fines. The enforcement officer can enter in order to execute a warrant, which could be for arrest, commitment, detention or distress. In fact the premises in question do not even have to belong to the person whom they are seeking; the officer merely has to suspect that the person they are seeking is present at the address. The use of the words ?enforcement officer? means that it does not have to be a police officer. This means that a right which has stood for over 700 years was simply brushed aside, thus allowing any ?authorised? person to force their way into your home. People assume they will never be in this situation but then again ten years ago people would have laughed at the idea of getting a criminal record for over-filling your bin or for dropping litter. Laws change, not always for the better. Unless we keep a close eye on the law-makers, scrutinise the smallest of changes and how they affect our rights, the rights we take for granted today will not be there for our children tomorrow.
Labour
[info]trojan_horace wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 07:47 am (UTC)
And they wonder why they are unpopular with the public :(
Incredible they are still so out of touch
[info]ponkbutler wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 09:36 am (UTC)
It's amazing that Labour keep on dreaming up madcap schemes like this which erode civil liberties.

Apart from anything else, have they not grasped the fact that this - along with the Iraq war and now a certain excess of laissez-fair over the City - has been one of the biggest factors contributing to their loss of support from lifelong Labour voters?
Re: Incredible they are still so out of touch
[info]forwardplanning wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 10:43 am (UTC)
They are also ignoring the right to privacy enshrined in the EHRC. Under British Law this is interpreted as follows

"It also means that personal information about you (including official records, photographs, letters, diaries and medical records), should be kept securely and not shared without your permission, except in certain circumstances."

It would appear they are about to overturn this.
Labour's Legacy
[info]businesspages wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 10:01 am (UTC)
As I've said many times in the last few years. This government will go down in history as the worst ever. The have destroyed civil liberties, destroyed the economy and destroyed any sense of society in a far more effective manner than Thatcher. The real tradgedy is that I voted for them back in the late eighties. More fool me.
Data Sharing
[info]dixiedean wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 10:19 am (UTC)
Put no faith in the Information Commissioner

My files hold three unreasonable and illogical decisions made by that office, all protecting the Scottish Government and my Local Authority from providing information to which I'm clearly legally entitled. That information may well embarrass two Scottish Cabinet Ministers, two other MSPs and the Government itself

Details and docs available from Professor Dixie Dean, 01309-674-582/07746-283-263
Personal Information sharing by the Government
[info]john_edw wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 11:25 am (UTC)
The proposed bill seriously opens the possibility that we are becoming a police state.

The only arguement made is that it will avoid people having to report changes in personal information, such as a death of a relative, more than once. This would be best achieved by a application specifically designed to allow an individual to report a change of situation to personally selected sites. This could have a commercial extention, so that I could report a change of address to both the Inland Revenue and Tesco Club Card at the same time.

I understand that in some of the government databases special provision is made for 'celebrities', which includes government ministers. This demonstrates that ministers have noconfidence in the security of the information held.

John
Leave us alone!!!
[info]2barrows wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 12:51 pm (UTC)
Yet another reason to chuck out this discredited bunch of self-serving cretins.
Corporate Sat
[info]tomhmacf wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 12:52 pm (UTC)
Check out Laurence W. Britt's fourteen point characteristics of 'fascism' against present day Britain and I think you will find at least seven of them apply already.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm
Corporate State UK
[info]tomhmacf wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 01:00 pm (UTC)
Check out Laurence W. Britt's fourteen-point delineation of fascism, and I think you will find at least seven of them already apply:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm

What intrigues me is the fact that the Thatcher-Blair-Brown administrations have all espoused neoliberal globalisation which, allegedly, preaches the benefits of the small state.

Yet, in fact we now have the most bloated, all-embracing, state poking it's incompetent nose into every nook and cranny of people's lives, and doing so solely in the corporate interest.

Let's face it, isn't being done in the interests of the likes of 'Baby P' - how exactly would the gargantuan ContactPoint database have saved him?


Who's kept Labour in power long enough for this to happen? You voters and non-voters together.......
[info]rozr wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 01:26 pm (UTC)
Now we have 1984. Magna Carta is dead. 1984 was 13 years late coming - 13 years makes 1997 when this gross Stasi Labour Govt packed with Stalinists and the like was elected and the people of this country have inexplicably goneon electing Labour in spite of all their endless cockups and bullying and relentless fleecing of us ordinary citizens - and this newspaper has backed them to the hilt for a lot of that time.
NuLabour... Dictating to the rotten core.
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 03:05 pm (UTC)
Stalinist, Fascist, these powers are the hallmark of the oppressor and the statist, the tools of the dictator and the tyrant...

No doubt Hitler in 1937 seeking to expand his NIR and Aryan Registers used much the same talk as above, we see from example just how the worlds first national identity database was put to use.

The Soviets also found their national identity databases a hoot too, when punishing someone, it was a small matter to also have that persons family rounded up and placed in the same camp as the offender. Using their databases, they punished whole towns...

The Nazi's and Soviets also exhibited how corrupt they were, how these things could be abused, how for instance a SS Officers wife desiring a property could use this system to have the owner of that property "untermensch" and sent off to a death camp, for decades the Russians suffered enormous abuses at the hands of the Soviet "system".

But you need also to know who is behind the British push for such databases...

Firstly I would suspect that some of the decision makers have been promised fat inducements for pushing this through, this is malfeasance and corruption at its finest.

Secondly, unbeknown to many, the primary candidates for these contracts in ID cards/NIR are not British companies but pseudo companies acting as fronts for US Military Intelligence and similarly Israeli Military Intelligence too.

If the government were to do this "in-house" e.g. not private and contracted out, there would be little interest but this promises to be a cash cow for the right people, Halliburton and Carlyle overcharge the taxpayer 900m a year for its work at DML Ltd and no-one raises an eyebrow but ask yourselves this... Why are foreign militaries so interested in getting in on the private details of British citizens?

Is it because they using their coercion and bribery know that British politicians will roll over rather than stop an unlimited cash cow in their favour..? Blair quashed any inquiry into the bilking at DML (that is close to a billion a year)

Or is there a more sinister agenda at foot...?

Already the Israeli's in guise of semi-legitimate companies guard the US Nuclear arsenal and even our Queen, just what the heck is going on here? Are we being taken over?
Data Sharing Bill
[info]woodpecker247 wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 03:19 pm (UTC)
The government are selling the benefits of the bill. However, as so often, they are overlooking the vast disadvantages and risks of it. Even IF there are safeguards NOW that data will be handled responsibly, what is to stop a later Government to use them for less laudible purposes? During the Second World War, data [eg, on people's ethnic origin] which had been gathered for innocent reasons, were horribly misused. The less data we have on electronic records, the better. Their use is unavoidable, but should be restricted as much as possible.
[info]barrie_redfern wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 04:45 pm (UTC)
Never mind safeguards, this should not be happening at all. There has never been a truer headline: Data Bill 'will wipe out privacy at a stroke'. It has to be strangled now.
The Last Straw
[info]cardrew wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 05:58 pm (UTC)
As USA starts to become more open under Obama, we see a British administration that is acting more like Bush/Cheney.

ID cards, database sharing, hundreds of ineffective new laws amount to the beginning of a police state where every movement of an individual will be scrutinised by non-descript worthless government peons, that will decide if our actions pose a threat to the establishment.

All totalitarian governments try to calm our concerns of invasion of privacy, by saying they are for the public good, "what do you have to fear, if you have nothing to hide".

The sooner this oppressive government is voted out, and the hideous Ms. Smith, who is doing her utmost to destroy all of the civil liberties we have left, is ousted before she can do any more harm.

In the mid 90's Britain was perceived as fair country, the epitome of a democracy. Under Blair we became a disgrace, lying about WMD, participating in an illegal war, eroding civil liberties to create a Big Brother state, the largest DNA database in the World (including a large proportion of children and innocent citizens). Now the same government that could not even safeguard less critical data, want to diseminate more personal information to third parties.

All of these actions are disgraceful, but when you consider how inept this government have been at solving any of the other problems (Financial crisis, housing crisis, asinking Pound, unemployment etc.), you wonder where their priorities lie.
Data sharing = money...
[info]blocksofwood wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 07:53 pm (UTC)
Information can be sold or traded and since the Government is bankrupt what better way to earn extra money. Sell it to the Banks, Insurances Companies and of course foreign interested parties.
If these Ministers think there will be "tough safe guards" then they are mistaken. Humans make errors not computers. Face it microchip under the skin will be next.
BB ++BAD
[info]paracelcius wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 09:26 pm (UTC)
Its about time we recognised the forsight of George Orwell with a statue or some magnificent memorial in bronze, outside the houses of Parliament, perhaps. It may prick at what little remains of the consience of those within. The only thing Orwell didn't count on was the thought police leaving their files on the last tube home.

[info]imogenlucy wrote:
Tuesday, 27 January 2009 at 09:45 pm (UTC)
I have emailed the Identity and Passport Service three times asking the following question:

"I am opposed to compulsory ID cards primarily on the grounds that should, at some point in the future, a non-benign government come into power, this - together with the developing surveillance camera and database infrastructure, which I am also opposed to, for the same reason - would provide the state with significant powers to oppress the population. I believe that this constitutes a greater threat to my safety than terrorism. Please can you tell me how you intend to ensure that this cannot happen?"

So far I have received two standard letters not answering my question in reply, and am still awaiting a response to my third repetition of the question requesting that they actually read the question and answer it.
[info]global_angel wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 04:34 am (UTC)
relieve the burdon on berieved families....my backside!
Another feeble pathetic excuse for abusing confidential personal information coming from a government that has more security breaches than a teabag has holes!

This government is utterly obsessed with control and the destruction of privacy of each and every one of us. We are already being watched, controlled and scrutinized from the minute we leave our homes until we return to them, likely very soon we will be watched within them as well.
It is high time all of this nonesense was stopped and people given back thier right to privacy without being monitored from morning til night! The sort of surviellance imposed on us now is nothing short of intimidation. Our society is becoming like one huge prison camp and our rights diminished on a daily basis.Blair introduced 30,000 new laws in ten years and most of them designed to control us. The cameras were supposed to prevent crime when all the police do is watch it being commited, whilst seemingly doing as little as possible to prevent it. I most certainly would not want other government agencies looking at medical records or any other records for that matter, only professionals should have access to such information. I think this is utterly outrageous. Who gave consent for our children to be on a database? Likely when the government loose this, peadophile networks will be paying a premium for copies!
Bye Bye Labour!
[info]frazzlea wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 05:47 am (UTC)
Bye Bye Labour! Bye Bye Labour!!!!!!!!!!!
[info]frazzlea wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 06:51 am (UTC)
so Labour have done away with our civil liberties, our privacy, our human rights, monitoring us with cctv where ever we walk, monitoring us when we drive around in our cars using special registration plate scanners that link to databases that know who we are and where we live, and they want to scan our faces for the unpopular ID card/national identity register which they are obssessed with implementing at great cost to the taxpayer, and has no conceiveable benefit to us (it's simply a means of government control over us - the people, as far as i can see). Now, this is the year when automated face-recognition finally goes mainstream, and it's about time we considered its social and political implications. As expected, the Home Office and the Association of Chief Police Officers have already held discussions about the possibility of linking such systems with automatic car-numberplate recognition and public-transport databases. Join everything together via the internet, and voila! - the nation's population, down to an individual person, can be conveniently and automatically monitored in real time.

So let's understand this: governments and police are planning to implement increasingly accurate surveillance technologies that are unnoticeable, cheap, pervasive, ubiquitous, and searchable in real time.

you have a duty now, as a citizen, to question this stealthy rush towards permanent individual surveillance. A Government already obsessed with pursuing an unworkable and unnecessary identity-card database must be held to account.

If 'data sharing' is legalised and any company can gain access to it, what you want to bet people are refused health insurance based on their medical records or genetics?? and what about increased risk of ID fraud when our information is hacked into or lost by incompetent ministers and civil servants? also cold calling by companies was bad when i put myself in the yellow pages, what happens when the private and personal details of the elderly are laid bare for any company to look at and harrass them with relentless phone calls and scams to fleece them of their savings! Shame, Shame, Shame on you Labour!!!!!!
Data Bill
[info]economicslave wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 10:18 am (UTC)
With due respect to grieving families, the idea that this Bill should be approved because it will 'ease the grieving process' has to be one of the flimsiest justifications I've ever seen for a piece of contentious legislation. Looking at the Government's (and previous Governments') past record with 'tough safeguards', everyone who has their details on a computer somewhere should be very, very concerned. With the email/text/phone-tapping plans, the proposals for ID cards, new police powers (you can now be arrested for dropping litter), serious discussion about some crimes 'not needing' a jury, etc, there is a strong case for britain slipping into becoming a police state.

I hope I'm wrong about that; but in the meantime I have already set the ball rolling on emigration from the UK, with a long-term view towards discarding UK nationality. My private information, medical records, or even my DNA, are NOT something which I want to be used for marketing by some private firm, or which can be available to any civil/public servant who might happen to want it, no matter how much of a difference that might make to 'costs'.

I do not think it is an over-reaction to say that I'm quite scared about the implications of this; ordinary people should be worried enough about this to stand up and refuse it.

It will still go through
[info]rooster281 wrote:
Wednesday, 28 January 2009 at 11:44 am (UTC)
In spite of all the anger here and the comments by opposition politicians, I suspect it will still go through, a) because of the EU dimension and b) because Labour MP's won't put their jobs on the line. If we don't get rid of them soon it will be too late and an incoming government of whatever colour will happily accept what is already there.

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