Johnson would deny Tories outright victory
Exclusive: 'Independent' poll reveals that new leader could transform Labour's prospects
Alan Johnson would deny David Cameron an overall majority at the next general election if Labour ditched Gordon Brown and installed him as prime minister, according to a new poll for The Independent.
The ComRes survey provides the first evidence that a change of leader could dramatically transform Labour's prospects. The findings were described as "stunning" by rebel Labour MPs last night. They believe it could influence Labour's agonised debate over whether it should back or sack the beleaguered Prime Minister.
Under Mr Brown's leadership, the Conservative Party would win an overall majority of 74, according to ComRes. But if Mr Johnson, the Home Secretary, replaced Mr Brown, the Tories would be six seats short of a majority in a hung parliament – raising the prospect of a deal between Labour and the Liberal Democrats to keep the Tories out. Mr Johnson is the only one of eight possible Labour leaders who could prevent an outright Tory victory. Under Jack Straw, David Miliband, Jon Cruddas, Ed Balls, Harriet Harman, James Purnell or Mr Brown, Mr Cameron would win a majority of between 10 and 94, ComRes found. Significantly, Labour would do better under Mr Straw, Mr Miliband, Mr Cruddas and Mr Balls than under Mr Brown.
Mr Johnson is also the most popular of the eight contenders among people who regard themselves as natural Labour supporters and among people who backed the party at the last general election. Charles Clarke, who called on the Prime Minister to stand down at a packed meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) last night, said of the ComRes survey: "This poll is the convincing evidence that Labour needs a serious and considered debate about its future direction and leadership."
Labour MPs recalled that similar polls, suggesting that a change of leader would revive Tory fortunes, contributed to Margaret Thatcher's ousting by her backbenchers and ministers in 1990. Mr Brown was cheered as he arrived at what had been billed as a meeting that could decide his fate. There was unusually candid criticism during the heated 90-minute session as three former ministers – Fiona McTaggart, Tom Harris and Mr Clarke – told him to his face the fact that he should stand down. Siobhain McDonagh, a former whip, also called on Mr Brown to go.
The Prime Minister won the backing of most of those present. Striking a note of humility, he told the meeting: "I have my strengths and I have my weaknesses. I know I do some things well and some things I don't do well. But I've learnt that I have to keep listening all the time."
Mr Brown promised to consult more widely inside his party, run a more collective leadership and to be more open and transparent in the way he ran Downing Street. He pledged to be a full-time Labour leader as well as a full-time Prime Minister.
Dismissing calls for his resignation, he said: "You solve the problem not by walking away but by facing it, doing something about it." He warned that previous Labour governments had been brought down by a combination of economic problems and party disunity. He insisted there were no huge ideological differences within the party, telling the meeting: "There isn't a resignation letter I have seen that mentions policy differences."
He insisted he was not begging for unity but was "making an argument for unity", adding: "I am here because of what I am and what I can offer to this progressive age because I know what needs to be done."
A string of Labour grandees, led by the former leader Lord Kinnock, rallied support behind the Prime Minister. He warned that divisions equalled the "death penalty" in politics.
David Blunkett, the former Home Secretary, told the rebels they had 24 hours to "put up or shut up," warning: "We cannot take this blood-letting any longer."
Brown allies said afterwards they were confident he would survive and claimed the plot to unseat him was fizzling out. Some potential rebels admitted it might be put on hold until the autumn, despite Labour's disastrous performance in the European elections, in which it came third behind Ukip after winning on a historic low 15 per cent of the vote.
The Prime Minister's attempt to steady the ship ran into more problems when Jane Kennedy, an Environment minister, refused to serve in his administration. She accused Mr Brown of sanctioning smear campaigns against Labour politicians and the undermining of his critics.
Stephen Byers, the Blairite former cabinet minister told the meeting staged by the modernisers group Progress last night: "We need a leader who regards Labour Party members as assets to be valued. A leader who sees Labour MPs as colleagues to be worked with and not threats to be briefed against... A leader who is decisive and not timid. Who can inspire and take our country through these difficult times. We need a leader who can win for Labour at the next general election and not take us to a humiliating defeat. Gordon Brown is not that leader."
Mr Byers added: "Gordon Brown knows who will pay the real price of a Labour defeat. So for those people, families and communities who need a Labour government to protect and promote their interests, Gordon Brown should stand down now as Labour leader and Prime Minister."
Frank Field, another former minister, said: "Labour cannot win with the present Prime Minister. I was one of the seven who would not support his coronation after Tony Blair was shoehorned out of No 10. But even I didn't think a Brown administration would be as inept as this one."
The ComRes poll puts the Tories on 38 per cent (up eight points since its last survey a week earlier), Labour on 22 per cent (no change), the Liberal Democrats on 20 per cent (up two points) and other parties on 20 per cent (down 10 points).
The C2 skilled manual workers and people in the bottom DE social group are twice as likely to vote Tory than Labour, confirming that Mr Brown's party has suffered disproportionately from the scandal over MPs' expenses.
The Tories retain the support of 88 per cent of those who voted for them at the 2005 general election, while 63 per cent of Labour voters would back the party in an election now. So would 74 per cent of those who endorsed the Liberal Democrats.
Last night, some Brown critics acknowledged that the rebellion was fading. One left-winger said: "He has probably done enough. The idea of an early general election is terrifying colleagues."
One leading rebel said: "I'm pretty pessimistic. I think Gordon's going to survive, but discontent will rumble on. There will be simmering disharmony. That is the worst possible scenario for the Labour Party.
"My gut instinct tells me that the carrots and severe sticks from No 10 and the whips have persuaded people to move over. People are being threatened with being smeared in the tabloids if they didn't fall into line."
ComRes telephoned 1,001 GB adults between June 5-7, 2009. Data were weighted by past vote recall. ComRes is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules.
Independent poll: Which leader would put the smile back on Labour's face?
Alan Johnson, Home Secretary
Man most likely to succeed Gordon Brown if he is toppled before general
election.
Election result with him as leader:
Con 36% Labour 26% Lib Dems 19% (Con six seats short of majority.)
Support among Labour identifiers: 76%
Jack Straw, Justice Secretary
His withdrawal of support could finish Brown.
Election result with him as leader:
Con 36% Labour 25% Lib Dems 19% (Con majority of 10)
Support among Labour identifiers: 71 per cent
David Miliband, Foreign Secretary
Raised profile last summer but campaign faltered
Election result with him as leader:
Con 37% Labour 25% Lib Dems 19% (Con majority: 30)
Support among Labour identifiers: 73%
Jon Cruddas, Backbencher
Turned down ministerial job and enjoys support on left of party.
Election result with him as leader:
Con 36% Labour 22% Lib Dems 21% (Con majority of 42.)
Support among Labour identifiers: 69 per cent
Ed Balls, Schools Secretary
Brown's favoured successor. Ambition to become Chancellor.
Election result with him as leader:
Con 37% Labour 23% Lib Dems 20% (Con majority of 46)
Support among Labour identifiers: 67 per cent
Gordon Brown, Prime Minister
Hoping to see off plotters as Cabinet did not join revolt
Election result with him as leader:
Con 38% Labour 22% Lib Dems 20% (Con majority: 74)
Support among Labour identifiers: 71 per cent
Harriet Harman, Deputy leader
Would be strong candidate in full-scale leadership contest.
Election result with her as leader:
Con 38% Labour 22% Lib Dems 20% (Con majority of 74)
Support among Labour identifiers: 67 per cent
James Purnell, Former cabinet minister
Blairite who quit as Work and Pensions Secretary last Thursday. Would win
respect if Brown was ousted.
Election result with him as leader:
Con 38% Labour 21% Lib Dems 21% (Con majority of 94)
Support among Labour identifiers: 66 per cent
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There are many ways in which things could be improved. PR could be one of them. Changing the structure of the UK so that the current parliament became a federal one and each country had its own regional parliament could be another (also abolishing the Lords along the way).
The electorate is clearly fed up to the back teeth with lying politicians and the self-serving and virtually dictatorial way the main parties act. Our leaders have squandered enormous sums on banking when such sums could never be found for infrastructure or alleviating poverty. The truth is out - we do (or did) have the money to do things properly, but the politicians would never allow it.
Probably almost no one wants Cameron and his Bullington boys. The solution is to change the system so that it serves the interest of the people, not the charmed circle of parliamentarians within their moats.
Reading your piece cheered me up, some where sanity still exists. Meanwhile, the captain of the unsinkable "Molly Brown " sails on, having quelled the mutiny , how many gold pieces did that cost us ?
Who is smearing whom?
Who is making up this story? Is it Torys baiting Labour? Is it Blairities baiting Brown?
Or is 007 spreading disinformation as he is sick of his boss?
This is more fun than a Terminator film!
Can anyone else already feel the impending doom as the terrorist alert level is raised to; "Red: The Colour of the Streets as Terrorists Slaughter Our Kittens and Children", or the cracking of a potentially devastating terrorist plot involving supersoakers filled with napalm on a BA flight (to New York of course) is announced after this disastrous poll showing?
That is why it is difficult to take the above poll seriously. If I were a Labour rebel I wouldn't be getting too excited at these results , nor would I believe them.
You are thugs, liars, crooks, warmongers and incompetents. Your party is DEAD, you are HISTORY, GET OUT NOW, BEFORE THE VOTERS *THROW* YOU OUT.
Only the profanity filter prevents me telling you what I think of you, you sack of sh...
Is that your last word?
Voted a mixture of for and against a transparent Parliament
Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban
Voted strongly for introducing ID cards
Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals
Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees
Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war
Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war
Voted very strongly for replacing Trident
Voted moderately for the hunting ban
Voted very strongly for equal gay rights
Voted for laws to stop climate change
Hardly ever rebels against their party in this parliament.
(from theyworkforyou.com)
There is constant comment about people finding Alan Johnson 'unknown' because they do not know what he stands for while you have taken the simple, but very effective step, of looking at his record! This powerful analysis shows he very strongly stands;
- For foundation hospitals
- For anti-terrorism laws
- For war in Iraq
- For opposition to an investigation into the Iraq War
- For replacing Trident
- For gay rights
so he wants to break up the NHS, severely curtail civil liberties, likes aggressive and illegal wars, wants to cover up the reasons for such a war, encourages nuclear weapons proliferation and supports homosexuals.
So what would actually change if he replaced Brown?
Pipe dreams? Well something has to happen or soon we'll probably see the Thatcherite poll-tax riots again.
If you walk away, the problem will be solved because you are the problem Gordon!
The problem is not your personality or your 'values' or even your henchmen and their activities but your competence.
As Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party you have a decade as Chancellor and two years as premier so the is a long track record to provide a basis for analysis. What have you achieved to date? It is possible, once more, to list your shortcomings and failures but in the interests of brevity, let us list your successes since 1997.
What has Gordon Brown actually achieved given the most fortunate circumstances as Chancellor and having been made Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition without having to be elected?
Having fulfilled your life-long ambition for power as Chancellor and Prime Minister you will go down in history as the worst ever, and your refusal to accept this verdict means that you continue to retain office and lead the Labour Party, which you profess to love and serve, to political oblivion.
All of your political opponents are delighted that you survived and remain in office because you do more damage than they ever could!
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Brown has fooled his Party again, but he doesn't fool the electorate. This pantomime should stop and a General Election called.
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Gordon Brown threw himself on the mercy of his party last night and promised to change the way that he governed as he tackled the crisis of confidence that has engulfed his leadership.
The Prime Minister WON A REPRIEVE, probably at least until the autumn, as he told a meeting of more than 400 Labour MPs and peers that he was determined ?>>>to play to my strengths and address my weaknesses?.<<<
He was reported to have secured>>>> overwhelming backing to fight on, <<<<<even though about half a dozen MPs, including Charles Clarke, told him to go. The former Home Secretary was joined by Tom Harris, a former Transport Minister, Siobhain McDonagh, Fiona Mactaggart and Meg Munn, all of whom told Mr Brown that the party would fare better with a new leader. Cameron accuses Brown over 'collapsing' Government. Here one day we see Brown thrown. Gordon Brown suffered another crippling blow last night when the Blairite Work and Pensions Secretary, James Purnell, resigned from the Government. Adrian Hamilton: Don't knock Obama before he's tried in the Middle East. Obama get the chance also. I thank you Firozali A. Mulla
However, all this is, unfortunately, academic. Brown will not be pushed out unless he flips his lid and is hustled off to The Priory Clinic. He was given a hypocritical standing ovation by the PLP and the rebels were so incompetent they could not even orchestrate a coup. Suddenly he is going to listen. How many times have we heard that. He will be more humble; now that is a new one. But who really believes him?
I'm afraid that we are stuck with the twisted megalomaniac for nearly another year. Even Barry Shearman, who was dubbed a brave man for suggesting the PLP had a secret ballot, has bowed to pressure and is now firmly on side. What a useless coward he has turned out to be.
So we must look forward to nearly a year of government by a wounded mentally unbalanced PM presiding over a cabinet not of his choice. A cabinet that includes such oddities as Mrs, soon to be Lady Kinnock and the loud mouthed bully Alan Sugar. God help us.
The people 'polled' must be the dumbest of the dumb.
The fact that our corrupt electoral system even gives Labour a chance of avoiding oblivion, is a disgrace.
2. I would suggest the vast majority of people don't even know who Johnson is
3. He's a 60 yr old Marxist - like Brown
4. Labour will lose the next GE - no matter what
All the time the Dark Lord is whispering in his ear.
Bilbo Blair has departed the scene. Is Alan Johnson the Frodo to cast this rotten parliament into the abyss?
Meanwhile, the fair Tory elves sail off to another (non-eu) land.
A change of leadership will make no difference at all because Labour is a party divided against itself. RIP
Sums it up really.