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Plans to fast-track new nuclear power stations

By Russell Lynch, Press Association

Plans to fast-track a new generation of nuclear power stations are set to be unveiled by the Government, it was reported today.

Energy and Climate Change Secretary Ed Miliband will tomorrow announce a series of national policy statements analysing 11 sites for power stations and raising many more potential locations, it was reported in the Sunday Telegraph.

Under changes to the planning laws, the Infrastructure Planning Commission will be able to speed through the proposals for new schemes in a year if it decides they fit in with the policy statements.

Alongside nuclear power, the Government will also issue policy statements on renewables, fossil fuels, gas and infrastructure

The rapid pace of approval for new nuclear sites would contrast with examples such as the six-year struggle to steer the Sizewell B power station through the planning process.

It would also encourage foreign entrants such as E.ON, RWE npower and EDF, which bought nuclear power firm British Energy last year with the aim of being a major player in producing a new fleet of UK power stations.

Most of the sites under consideration have a strong nuclear heritage, including Dungeness in Kent, Hinkley Point in Somerset and Sizewell in Suffolk.

Mr Miliband told the Labour conference in September that the "challenge of climate change is too big to reject nuclear".

He added: "That's why we're right to reform planning laws including for nuclear power and press ahead with plans for new nuclear power."

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Nuclear Power
[info]colinru wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 02:18 pm (UTC)
Better late than never, I suppose, but have they got the competence to see it through, in the unlikely event that they win the next Election.
Nuclear power is a redundant technology
[info]freddyfresh wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 02:19 pm (UTC)
The toxic waste already in the UK alone will cost up £70 billion to clear up properly, unless the government authorizes more waste to be dumped off in Africa somewhere cough Trafigura cough cough.

We have one of the largest tidal ranges in the world, easily enough energy there to make up for the lack of super expensive and morally corrupt nuclear power.
Re: Nuclear power is a redundant technology
[info]forlornehope wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 02:43 pm (UTC)
Tsk, tsk, do the sums; even if we use all the tidal energy at our disposal it is only a small fraction of our energy needs. Before commenting on this stuff it's a good idea to study, yes study, Prof David MacKay's excellent "Sustainable Energy - without the Hot Air", available, free, online here:

http://www.withouthotair.com

To cut to the answer, we need to get twice as efficient at using energy and we need some of everything available, wind, tide, solar, nuclear and even some carbon capture. If we do that we can get the improvement we need - we cannot pick and choose. What we don't need, pace the green-fascists, is a total change in everyone's lifestyle, just some good engineering.
Re: Nuclear power is a redundant technology
[info]1maia wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 03:15 pm (UTC)
I disagree. We do need to decide, whether preserving our lifestyles or cutting emissions is our top priority; we will need to decide if we will cut our emissions in order to meet our goal; we can't avoid the question, and the choice is bound to arise some time. Personally, i think it's not a 'we' who emit a lot, but a small rich minority 'they' who need to make big changes and a larger 'we' who need to make some, as well as a big 'they' who are not that responsible. I know a lot of people who refuse to fly to europe, for instance, and even more people who could not afford to leave the country because of the price of passports, let alone other costs. I can't see preserving our lifestyles at the cost of killing other people in the third world, by skin cancer/ruining their farmland etc. A parallel political choice/renunciation would be when a lot of people, e.g. Mary Shelley, gave up sugar because it was produced by slaves. Most consumption is want, not need, and wants fade.
Re: Nuclear power is a redundant technology
[info]freddyfresh wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 07:29 pm (UTC)
I beg to differ:

• The Cardiff-Weston barrage - a 10-mile scheme costing £14bn that would stretch from near Cardiff to near Weston-super-Mare. It could generate up to 8GW - 5% of the UK's energy needs

• Shoots barrage - a scheme further upstream which would generate around 1GW, equivalent to a large fossil fuel plant

• Beachley barrage - an even smaller scheme, just above the Wye River, which would generate around 625MW

• Bridgwater Bay lagoon - a proposal which would impound a section of the estuary on the coast between east of Hinkley Point and Weston-super-Mare, which could generate 1.36GW

• Fleming lagoon - a similar scheme which would generate the same amount of power from a section of the Welsh shore between Newport and the Severn road crossings.
Re: Nuclear power is a redundant technology
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 05:15 pm (UTC)

Offshore wind and wave power - once the reliability issues sorted.
Make it More Palatable...
[info]marcusoralias wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 06:05 pm (UTC)
Correct me if I am wrong but nuclear power stations designs with nuclear weaponry material as well as power in mind tend to produce ten times as much waste; if we were to go for completely "benign" nuclear power station approach we could get the waste issues right down making the whole thing a lot more palatable.
Marcusoralias.
Essential!
[info]barncactus wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 06:22 pm (UTC)
Must do.
Britain is too compact to withstand nuclear failure
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 06:30 pm (UTC)

People say that new generation of power stations have bullet proof reliability.

When you cant 100% guarantee for a reasonable period of operational life for something as simple and static as a loaded nut and bolt or a stressed solid cable, how can you guarantee a complex power station x 11.

We need greater safety and security when moving away from fossil fuels - more renewables backed by minimal nuclear power.
How dangerous is it?
[info]snotcricket wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 07:19 pm (UTC)
Used to be a supporter of this option until the Buncefield Oil fire & saw the satellite images, as the black pawl of oily smoke spread/covered the sky in a signficant area of this small island.

This was a 'relatively' small incident & was brought completely under control in a few days, however the images gave some indication of how such incidents/disasters could affect the whole of the UK & its population of 60 million, GB is after all a small geographical area yet one of the higher densities in the world. If we equate this to a Chernobyl style incident (don't say it can't happen) which covered an area many times the size of the UK added to the time it took to control & clean, given these images & the possibility (however small) of a disaster (accident/terroist attack etc) I have to say I have reconsidered my support for the nuclear option.

Although it could be the answer to those who worry about the UK carbon footprint as the islands are laid waste for 500,000 years & its population no more.
Re: How dangerous is it?
[info]corporeal_v001 wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 08:09 pm (UTC)

In the 1970's the UK was the world leader in wave power. At a Scottish university (Edinburgh I think), Dr Salter created whats called "Salters duck", a wave power device that had over 90% efficiency for converting a wave into mechanical power.

But some smart arse in the government dismissed wave power as being too expensive by adding an extra zero onto the cost per Kwh figures. This made renewable power seem too expensive and funding was terminated.

Britian could have been a world leader in offshore renewables by now if there wasnt dirty politics at play...
Don't hold your breath
[info]thorntongate wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 09:35 pm (UTC)
You could not make it up.

In 2003 Energy Review NuLab rejected nuclear in favour of renewables. They didn't do much a of job on those, but by the time of the 2007 'review' ex-ministers had 'relocated' to the nuclear industry which mysteriously came back into favour.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e94b0702-949a-11dc-9aaf-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=f0d249de-e821-11db-b2c3-000b5df10621.html

So, if you favour nuclear - which I don't - that was four years lost.

Two years further on and it's talk of 'fast track'.

That's it with NuLab: talk!
[info]ponkbutler wrote:
Sunday, 8 November 2009 at 11:00 pm (UTC)
Our lifestyle is a meaningless waste of resources and human potential. Let's start showing some REAL thinking!

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