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Bankers on trial

PM's adviser blamed for collapse of HBOS

Former chairman of doomed bank 'sacked whistleblower who raised the alarm'

By Andrew Grice and Nigel Morris

The Government's crisis over the banks deepened last night when one of Gordon Brown's key advisers was accused of sacking a whistleblower who predicted that reckless lending by banks would end in disaster.

The record of Sir James Crosby, now the deputy chairman of the Financial Services Authority (FSA), in his previous job as the chief executive of HBOS, was called into question in explosive evidence to MPs by a senior official who raised the alarm that the bank was growing too fast and over-reaching itself.

Paul Moore, a barrister who was the head of regulatory risk at HBOS from 2002 to 2005, told the Treasury Select Committee that Sir James was the "original architect" of HBOS's doomed expansion. It was rescued by Lloyds in an emergency takeover last autumn. The new banking group received £17bn of taxpayers' money.

Mr Moore said: "It is now clear that this disastrous 'grow assets at all costs' strategy was what led to HBOS's downfall and humiliating demise by the forced acquisition by Lloyds." Sir James, who was knighted in 2006 on the Government's recommendation for his work in financial services, completed a major review of the mortgage market for the Treasury in November.

In a nine-page statement to the committee, Mr Moore added: "Some might now also question what his 'contribution to financial services' has in fact been when this will have led to millions of people in excessive debt, thousands who will lose their jobs and many more whose balance sheets have been impacted by the precipitous fall of the HBOS share price – apart from the reduction in competition in the retail financial services market threatened by the new Lloyds Group."

Urging the MPs to summon Sir James, he suggested that the FSA watchdog was reluctant to look into his complaints because Sir James was one of its non-executive directors at the time – an appointment made by Mr Brown as Chancellor. Sir James may now be quizzed after John McFall, the committee chairman, promised Mr Moore's claims would be "looked at".

Sir James did not comment. Lord Stevenson of Coddenham, former HBOS chairman, told the MPs that Mr Moore's allegations had been taken "very seriously" but that a nine-month inquiry had rejected them as untrue.

Mr Moore, who claimed his dismissal was Sir James's decision alone, said he signed a "gagging clause" and allegedly received substantial damages. He alleged that his team was met with "threatening behaviour" by some executives when it tried to raise their concerns.

"Being an internal risk and compliance manager at the time felt a bit like being a man in a rowing boat trying to slow down an oil tanker," he said. "Anyone whose eyes were not blinded by money, power and pride could have seen the explosion of 'excessively easy credit' was leading to disaster. But, sadly, no one wanted or felt able to speak up for fear of stepping out of line with the rest of the lemmings who were busy organising themselves to run over the edge of the cliff behind the pied piper CEOs and executive teams that were being paid so much to play that tune."

Yesterday four bankers blamed for the crisis said they were sorry for the problems, but insisted they had lost millions too as their shares collapsed. However, Andy Hornby, the former HBOS chief executive, said he did not feel "particularly personally culpable".

The Royal Bank of Scotland, in which the Government has a 68 per cent stake, announced 2,300 job cuts – about 2 per cent of its 106,000 UK workforce. The bank, which plans to pay bonuses of about £1bn, is under pressure to announce a £25,000 cap on individual cash bonuses when its bosses appear before the Treasury Committee today. Chief executive, Stephen Hester, is set for a grilling, alongside his equivalents from Lloyds (Eric Daniels), Barclays (John Varley), Abbey (Antonio Horta-Osorio) and HSBC (Paul Thurston).

Ministers are braced for more grim news. The unemployment figures, which stood at 1.92 million at the end of November, will near or exceed the 2 million mark when the statistics for the end of 2008 are published this morning.

George Osborne, the shadow Chancellor, said: "Given that Gordon Brown appointed Sir James deputy chairman of the FSA and relies upon him as a key economic adviser, the Government needs to investigate the allegations."

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats' Treasury spokesman, said that at HBOS Sir James privately accepted the banks were taking risks, the banker was "smart enough to realise he was on a very dangerous treadmill", he said. In meetings with him, Sir James argued he would be "fired" if he changed HBOS's behaviour while other banks pressed on, Mr Cable claimed.

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meaningless 'mea culpa'
[info]ozcaro wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 02:09 am (UTC)
andy hornby of hbos clearly doesn't understand saying sorry means accepting responsibility for your actions if he told the treasury committee he didn't feel "particularly personally culpable" - seems like he and all the other CEOs feel they just have to pay lip service to public accountability.

and james crosby should be immediately stood aside as FSA deputy chairman until paul moore's statement is independently investigated - and then sacked if the allegations stand up. how can the community have any faith in having an architect of the financial crisis in aa very senior post at the government regulatory authority?
King Rat Exposed?
[info]thisanthat wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 03:55 am (UTC)
Now watch the BIG COVER UP as Gordy and the team do the mother of all public relations excercises under the guise of another public enquiry.
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 04:02 am (UTC)
The family bosses of organised crimes even managed to get one of their own to be an adviser to the PM; just shows how deep the criminals who run the financial world have penetrated system of governance.

The only solution is to return to primative times when such criminals were pelted with rotten fruit before being publically executed.
Not Sincere
[info]aidrenegade wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 06:48 am (UTC)
I felt they were doing a bankers version of 'Sharon Shoesmith'. They said sorry but didn't sound sincere. Then they blamed on a few bad mistakes, never taking full responsibility for their actions. They just want to get past the media attention & find their next big pay packet.

Lets face it. Gordon Brown doesn't have the balls to go after them. It's Labours own red tape & stupid human rights laws that mean they will get away with it. When is this country finally going to get a REAL leader?
Stern action necessary
[info]54_gustave wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 07:38 am (UTC)
It is about time that all the former Senior executives of all these financial institutions are forced to pay back all the illegal "bonuses" they received on bogus profits made during their time in charge of their organisations. Further their pension remunerations built on these false "profits" must also be rescinded forthwith. They MUST not be allowed to get away by just saying sorry and getting away with no financial penalties. Their actions are going to have an impact on the pensions of each and every person in the UK for decades and therefore these people MUST also be made to take personal liability for their decisions!

There are other players also that need to face tough penalties in this whole saga - all previous external auditors of these institutions, the Bank of England, the senior people at the FSA and the so called "consultants" who advised these players. We must not allow the the politicians who allowed this happen on their watch scot free either. We the public MUST NOT allow the politicians to push this into the long grass of another "public enquiry" as it will just waste public money which we all know is in short supply!

Lord Stevenson's response to the committee's question as to why they did not act on Mr. Moore's RED FLAGS said it all. I paraphrase " Every one acted like sheep, I too am a sheep, therfore my action is excusable and it is okay".

Finally these white collar crimes must pe punished without fail. This is the ONLY way to avoid future disasters and make everyone in these senior positions understand THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR UNSOUND DECISIONS. If found guilty they should be put in jail too!!




PM's JUDGEMENT QUESTIONABLE:
[info]bgarvie wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 08:05 am (UTC)
These discredited former bank directors only apologised for expediency sake. They were not sincere and looked shell shocked and uncomfortable. They should be extremely worried as there could be strong grounds for apparent criminal negligence. It is not beyond the remit of the Crown Prosecution Service to operate in these matters. White collar crime "is crime" and will be prosecuted as such.

Mr. Moore, former head of risk management HBOS, witness statement is a revelation. Implying he was dismissed by Crosby, then HBOS Chief Exec., after exposing serious financial risks in their flawed business model, is alarming and will have grave consequences.The fact Crosby ignored his warnings speaks volumes.

It also brings into question the atrocious judgement of the PM. He had fatally removed regulatory powers from the Bank of England and substituted with a newly created FSA. Brown appointing Crosby as its deputy head. The FSA proved to be inexperienced, incompetent and impotent in preventing mistakes, uncovering weak practices, and monitoring banks use or misuse of financial instruments.

It would appear that Brown unwittingly instigated this chain of events. His fingerprints are all over the crime scene and his apparent malfeasance finally exposed for all to see.



Talk is Cheap, Bonuses aren't
[info]cass33 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 08:29 am (UTC)
These people (the bankers, but I'd like to change the first letter ... ) do not actually feel the pain and hassle of losing jobs, worrying about how to cope with their finances and wondering about the future. It's so easy to say "sorry", but time to take some of that money back from them. It is quite obscene that the government has TV adverts for catching benefit fraudsters who, in the scheme of things, have probebly got away with a fraction of what these mega-fraudsters have ripped off from their customers and now, the taxpayer. This is the stuff of revolution!
the level of scapegoating by rat-brains who rule
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 08:51 am (UTC)
inches higher day by day
Criminal Investigation
[info]misselling wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 08:53 am (UTC)
Certain people have brought the world to ruin. Why has no criminal investigation been launched? The Insurance Industry endowment mortgage and pensions misselling scandals were also caused by bonuses and greed. There the Fraud Squad prosecution of companies and directors was stopped as not being in the public interest. The officers asked for their strong objections to be recorded on the CPS' file. Perhaps this bonus culture and a belief that there would never be any retribution might have been prevented if the FSA for example had not told the police that they should all be singing from the same hymn sheet--theirs. The same mistakes must not be repeated. We should not allow failed Regulators to dictate the course of action this action.
Failures Attract
[info]mike4626 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 08:56 am (UTC)
why am I not surprised that the architect of HBOS's downfall is a person endorsed by Mr Brown
Failures?
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 09:21 am (UTC)
The dross of different anti-social sub systems come together to form a scum on the surface of a sick society
[info]drahcir38 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 09:50 am (UTC)
I have to say that if this were a television drama based in the 15th century outlining the corrupt practices of those with the power (in those days it would have been the monarch now it is politicians and businessmen) we would all be squirming in our seats to see such obvious disregard for honesty, decency and common humanity and care for our fellow man. Why oh why do we continue to honour those with the lowest morality in society when we really should be looking to the "man on the Clapham omnibus" to show us what being a human being means. A fie on your houses Brown, Cameron, Crosby and all your ilk, long may you rot in your own stink.
HBOS and the hard sell
[info]originaleskimo wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
I started working at Halifax Building Society in 1987 and joined. By the time I left HBOS 16 years later, the culture had changed completely from providing a service to hard sell. Reducing cashiers in order to create counter queues which could then be walked by banking hall staff in order to pressure sell became a common practice. In my view, hard sell and banking are completely incompatible and this practice together with ludicrously high lending multiples for mortgages has helped lead us in to this mess.

The FSA appear to be a complete waste of time, channeling all their efforts in to beating up small mortgage brokers yet allowing the major banks to operate completely unchecked.

That our clueless PM and erstwhile Chancellor Gordon Brown has based his economics on the advice of people like James Crosby and Fred Goodwin beggars belief.
Ouch !
[info]l3enz0 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 10:48 am (UTC)
Nice one Gordno , what's next ? Putting Bernard Madoff in charge at no 11 ? Melda Wilks for the head of the Met ? Jackboot Smith as home secretary ? oh wait ... doh

Or perhaps Gordno's thinking is prison is too good for these people ... i'll get them to work for me , instead .

Legal Responsibility
[info]paul_mossman wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC)
Forget honour, decency and any normal human values - Sir James has operated with direct conflicts of interest.

Personal Benefit versus corporate responsibility for prudence.
Bank Director versus FSA director

I cannot believe that he has not breached his responsibilities as a Director and is therfore liable to criminal prosecution.

If HM Constabulry were not so fully employed serving the corrupt government and not their Queens Warrant and the People - They might have time to catch the real criminals -

How many years for Great Train Robbery
How many years for Brinks Mat

I suggest 199 years would be too little for the Great Banking Smash and Grab

An accomplict before and after the crime is our own beloved, deluded, mentally stapped Prime "call me prudent" BROWN. But perhaps not accomplice rather the mastermind behind the crime, all in the name of Progressive Socialism - so sad.

Paul Moore for Chairman FSA or Chancellor But please, not BOTH !
Sir James argued he would be "fired"
[info]sraleigh wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 11:09 am (UTC)
"Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats' Treasury spokesman, said that at HBOS Sir James privately accepted the banks were taking risks, the banker was "smart enough to realise he was on a very dangerous treadmill", he said. In meetings with him, Sir James argued he would be "fired" if he changed HBOS's behaviour while other banks pressed on, Mr Cable claimed. "

So this guy (FSA deputy chairman ) is seriously blaming peer pressure then?

[info]sandra67 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 11:28 am (UTC)
Why on earth should people at the RBS be receiving ANY bonus? For good results? What would have been bad results then??? This is unacceptable and it will nail Brown's coffin.
what would be a bad result
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 02:18 pm (UTC)
Well there is the example of three of the top rankers being extradited to 'Murka on trial for Enron-related fraudulent accounting. It seems to have dropped out of the 'news'.
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 11:56 am (UTC)
Oh for Gords sake; just execute the corrupt Bankers.
Arrogant, Avaricious and Profligate
[info]gordon123 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 12:02 pm (UTC)
These arrogant, avaricious and profligate bankers must surely have a case to answer for gross dereliction of their legal responsibilities under The Companies Act 2006 specifically Part 10 Chapter 2 General Duties of Directors. Section 174 Duty to Exercise Reasonable Care Skill and Diligence would appear to have been particularly ignored.

Unfortunately the Act in Section 178 only refers to the Cilil Consequences of Breach of The General Duties so it would appear highly unlikely that any criminal proceeding could be brought against these people.
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 12:08 pm (UTC)
"Yesterday four bankers blamed for the crisis said they were sorry for the problems, but insisted they had lost millions too as their shares collapsed."


Aww. I feel for them. I really, really, honestly do.
Game over
[info]2barrows wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 12:12 pm (UTC)
It is now reported that Crosby has resigned from the FSA. So all we need to know now is whether Gordon Brown knew that all his banking mates were acting irresponsibly (i.e. Brown was jointly culpable); or didn't know that all his banking mates were acting irresponsibly (i.e. Brown was negligent or incompetent).

Game over. Pity that so many "hard-working families" were the losers.
Enough!
[info]imogenlucy wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 12:16 pm (UTC)
Sack them! Don't give them job-seekers allowance - give them hard labour. Seize their assets and dish them out amongst the poor.

Same for our corrupt government.

I thought Gordon was supposed to be a financial genius. Now we know he isn't
[info]rozr wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 02:42 pm (UTC)
So it's not Gordon who is saving the world, but his financial advisers. Presumably it's not Gordon who's nearly bankrupted the Treasury/this country but his financial advisers.

Now we know how Gordon will escape being blamed for the financial chaos. It was all the fault of his financial advisers giving him bad advice. He's just a Chancellor/PM, a figure head doing what others tell him is a good idea like screwing small businesses and the poor whilst not taxing the rich and strutting about declaring the world is following his lead. Now we know where that lead comes from ....... another failed banker.
Why we must pay the bonus's
[info]iamenity wrote:
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 at 07:13 pm (UTC)
We must pay the bonus's we are told because otherwise the supersonic TALENT will leave our shores to work for other countries in our new Global world.

Really, my advice then is let them go who in his right mind would employ them?

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