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Savage response: barred shock jock vows to sue

By Kate Kelland, Reuters

Michael Savage said he was outraged that he had been named alongside hate preachers and a member of Hamas

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Michael Savage said he was outraged that he had been named alongside hate preachers and a member of Hamas

A US radio presenter barred from entering Britain said today he would sue the British government for defamation after his name was published on an official list of "promoters of hate".

Michael Savage, a so-called "shock jock" radio host who has a right-wing talk show called The Savage Nation, described the UK Home Secretary Jacqui Smith as a "lunatic" and said he had set his lawyers to work on the case.

Smith published the list - which includes Islamist extremists, American anti-gay preachers and Russian gang members - on Tuesday, accusing those named of "stirring up hatred" and "fostering extremism or hatred".

"For this lunatic Jacqui Smith ... to link me up with skinheads who are killing people in Russia, to put me in league with mass murderers who kill Jews on buses, is defamation," Savage said on his show, excerpts of which were aired on BBC radio on Wednesday.

"As a result of this, I am going to sue her."

Savage, who says he has between 8 and 10 million listeners across the United States, urged them to support him by cancelling any travel plans to Britain and by boycotting British-made goods.

"I don't know what they make there any more, but whatever they make, I suggest you don't buy it," he said.

"If they want to play hardball, we'll play hardball".

Savage was fired by cable news channel MSNBC in 2003 after he referred to a caller on his show as a "sodomite" and said: "You should only get AIDS and die, you pig!".

Smith defended her decision, saying Savage - whose real name is Michael Alan Weiner - was a man of extreme views who expressed them "in such a way that it is actually likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence".

"Coming to this country is a privilege," she told Good Morning Television. "If you can't live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country."

Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, former leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang which beat and murdered immigrants, are also named on the list, along with the anti-gay U. S. Christian preacher Reverend Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper.

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smith the beautiful
[info]bowesy wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:23 am (UTC)
Mate don't bother suing her - she is a massive incompetent and dim with it.

Come back next year.

Another wonderful action from our democratically elected government - defending free speech to the end
Re: smith the beautiful
[info]high5pirit wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 06:13 pm (UTC)
are you employed by the racist rude man.
Re: smith the beautiful - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:31 pm (UTC) Expand
A match made in hell
[info]thorntongate wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:47 am (UTC)
I don't understand any of this, Mr Savage, you and our Home secretary were made for each other!
Great
[info]kanchenjunga wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:50 am (UTC)
You are correct she is a moron but even morons will have redeeming characteristics. Just think, would you invite these lovely people into your home for a party? Well maybe if you also invited all the people you really dislike and left them to it -that's fun, if the insurance company were willing to pick up the tab.

Banning people from speaking is not the way to become a role model for democracy while the fear of upsetting people is an argument used by cowards and a coward with a sword is the worst kind.
Now she has upset Mr Weiner, oh dear! I'm sure the courts will give him back his dummy.
US has 1 million on its 'No-Fly'list - the UK starts here
[info]old_green wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:53 am (UTC)
Every journey starts with one step

The UK government has decided to start by announcing a list that people will agree with, before increasing the size of the list.
Savage Response
[info]da1sy2 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:06 am (UTC)
Looking at this list the most surprising aspect of it is that by using the standards that Jaqui Smith has set then probably half the labour party and a good few million of the inhabitants of the UK should also be on it. How do you square that with these undesirables?
Re: Savage Response
[info]british_dude79 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:20 am (UTC)
The yanks response to everything, sue the bastards. Keep the likes of this idiot out of my country please.
Re: Savage Response - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:34 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Savage Response - [info]sammy1958 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:22 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Savage Response - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:54 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Savage Response - [info]ggarlick46 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:49 pm (UTC) Expand
Gordon Brown....waste of space!
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:09 am (UTC)
Brilliant. Shock jock beats our very own frumpy frock.

Jacqui, you've screwed up big time (at least your consistent). Ban an American radio broadcaster when the countries full of illegals, plenty of them muslims....with a good sprinkling of radicals (suicidal anti- western filth)....where is this country going.

Totally support you...and by the way...Britain's got no border controls if you wear a veil or over-tan your face. Plenty of Brits will put you up.
When in Rome
[info]trulygonefishin wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:14 am (UTC)
Smith: "If you can't live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country."
Since when has this ever been true?!
Re: When in Rome
[info]buddyswift wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:31 am (UTC)
Does it have to be an archaic law before anyone will pay attention? Its the right policy to have for all immigrants, but rarely is such proof available. Obviously the government wouldn't let terrorists in if they knew the person's intentions.
Re: When in Rome - [info]trulygonefishin - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:25 am (UTC) Expand
Re: When in Rome - [info]virginia_1976 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 03:41 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]british_dude79 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:24 am (UTC)
by the sounds of you lot you want idiots like this in this country. Our government does something right for a change and they get slated for it.

Bunch of idiots most of you lot.
RE: british_dude79.
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:49 am (UTC)
Savage speaks out to the 'majority' listener in the states. The 'minority' in the states is not his target demographic. You don't have to tune in to his broadcast - that's optional you know.
Re: british_dude79. - [info]ggarlick46 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:59 pm (UTC) Expand
Justice.
[info]buddyswift wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:27 am (UTC)
It seems clear to me that the only reason that this has flamed up more than expected is due to some massive insecurities on his part. Unable to live with the name 'Weiner'. He talks about himself in the Third Person for crying out loud!

This man, a public racist, lives in his own little world, where he is intolerant of change (Election of Barack Obama, treatment of autism, civil partnerships for gays). To my disgust, he chooses to share this with the world.

If he cares so much about what people are going to think of him as a result of this, why does he choose to make so many enemies by being so contentious and overtly ignorant?
Re: Justice.
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:40 am (UTC)
Censorship is intolerance. Do try to build an argument with a little more thought to it.
Re: Justice. - [info]uanime5 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:55 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]artsunlimited - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:30 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]high5pirit - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 06:21 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]high5pirit - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 06:02 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice. - [info]high5pirit - Thursday, 7 May 2009 at 07:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Anyone who calls himself "Savage"
[info]larkspur_14 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:33 am (UTC)
and spews the sort of sordid filth this creature does (to millions of delighted American listeners, a disgrace in itself) condemns himself. He isn't welcome in my country. Good for Jacqui Smith. At least there is some American madness our atlanticist government can resist, even if it can't shut the door in the faces of torturers, casino capitalists and war mongers.
Re: Anyone who calls himself "Savage"
[info]aafan wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:46 am (UTC)
Down with the fake Michael Savage. Long live the real Michael Savage!
Re: Anyone who calls himself "Savage" - [info]thesavageirish - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 01:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Anyone who calls himself "Savage" - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:30 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Anyone who calls himself "Savage" - [info]rodertrudis - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:36 pm (UTC) Expand
A match made in heaven! The Weiner vs Jackboot Jacqui
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:44 am (UTC)
Jacqui 'Jackboot' Smith matched against Alan 'The Weiner' Savage sounds just the sort of knockabout spectacle needed to amuse the great British public!
You should try being british!
[info]ronnie250 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:45 am (UTC)
We are being barred from our own country mate so dont feel left out ,if you were an immigrant or an "ethnic minority" you would be treat like a king and more money thrown at you than you could ever imagine .
no doubt they will want to barr me from the UK now for having such thoughts !! oh dear i will be called racist or whatever .
wonder if the U.S will let me in ? oh thats right they dont let immigrant scroungers in just like all the other countries stop them ! welcome to soft touch britian !!!!
Re: You should try being british!
[info]aless02 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:55 am (UTC)
you are ignorant and mis-informed about both British and American immgiration politices.
Re: You should try being british! - [info]ronnie250 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:57 am (UTC) Expand
Re: You should try being british! - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:37 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Justice
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:53 am (UTC)
Err..buddyswift...he had no idea he'd been banned. When he found out he couldn't quite believe it. Oh, and he has 8 million supporters and you've got a pet rat, a dead budgie and feeble brain. I should feel sorry for you....I really should......and I do....
What happened to freedom of speach?
[info]andyb66 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:56 am (UTC)
Michael Savage is clearly an extreme right wing idiot. However even morons of his calibre should have the right to voice their opinions in a genuine democracy. Fear of offence or distaste for someone's opinions is not a reason to trample all over this very basic freedom.

This famous list should be used to keep out known criminals and terrorists. Not political commentators.
Bit by bit, Labour is turning this country into an authoritarian state dictatorship. Increasingly, we are ownly allowed to express ideas that are inline with offical state doctrine. Britain is no longer a democracy.

Michael Savage, you are a complete idiot. But good luck with your law suit. I hope it succeeds!
Re: What happened to freedom of speach?
[info]aless02 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:56 am (UTC)
Freedom of speech, a) technically does not exist in the UK. It's a US amendment; b) has nothing to do with "Freedom of Immigration". She's not banning this narrow-minded idiot from speaking, she's just telling him to keep his filth out of this coutnry.
Re: What happened to freedom of speech? - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:14 am (UTC) Expand
Re: What happened to freedom of speech? - [info]uanime5 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:59 am (UTC) Expand
Re: What happened to freedom of speech? - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 01:24 pm (UTC) Expand
Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style.
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 08:58 am (UTC)
RE: "likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence"

I disagree. Right-wing opinion is the only safety valve currently in place that helps majority-populations to express their inner-anger at the way their homelands are being turned into multicultural, non-cohesive, fragmented, dangerous communities without consulting them about it.

We are undergoing a bloodless genocide and you lefties are supporting it. What's wrong with you people? Do you hate yourselves that much? Or, are you simply one of Stalin's "useful-idiots" who lacks the guts to stand up for your own kind when they need you the most?

Does anyone believe for 1 second that the Chinese government would allow China to disappear as a nation-race from a mass influx of Africans and Muslims - leading to the total disappearance of the Chinese as a people within 6 or 7 generations? They wouldn't go for it would they. And you know they wouldn't. So why do you support the demise of your own kind?

Continue gagging the majority all you like lefties. But don't go crying to mum when we (the majority) snap under the sheer weight of left-wing censorship. It's your choice lefties. Your call. Now choose.
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style.
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:11 am (UTC)
Trying to hide xenophobia as protecting freedom of speech isn't fooling anyone.
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:28 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]whiterabbi7 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:32 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:18 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]colinru - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 03:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]zahradelaplata - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 06:55 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Marxist social engineer Jacqui Smith style. - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Michael Savages first amendment to the first amendment
[info]blastarrbxiii wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:07 am (UTC)
Michael Alan Weiner aka: Michael Savage has a lot to say on his web site, but it's all a bit of a one way thing.

He doesn't want to hear from anyone about anything, cause he thinks he knows it all already.
[Isn't he Alex Jones's buddy]

You can send off some 'unsolicited' article to some online news media outlet Savage uses, along with your name, home address telephone number, e-mail address and a 300 word biography about yourself, yea it's true!!!.
Then the editor of that website 'might' publish the piece.

As long as it fits in with the agenda.

That's Michael Savages first amendment to the first amendment.
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Of course these 16 people and others like them pose a threat, not so much to the British Public but to the liebour party and the various liebour core block voters.

We can't have anyone speaking out about the ANTI-HOMOPHOBICS cause they are part of the liebour core voters and liebour want to after them at all costs.
Breeding them for their vote as they have cruelly bred the poor for their vote over the years.

Keeping them in poverty all their life, subsidising them so they can afford to have future liebour voters.
Telling them the biggest liebour lie, that liebour want to get them out of poverty, when all the time they are planning to keep them in it and increase their numbers.....don't we know about that!! impoverishing the nation.

YES, it is POLITICAL, these people are as Anti-liebour as they come, anyone outside of the UK expressing any Anti-liebour views just cannot be tolerated by liebour.

liebour are totalitarian fascists afterall.

Re: Michael Savages first amendment to the first amendment
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 07:42 pm (UTC)
His broadcasts suggest otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3UGSl94eNg
Freedom of speech
[info]sara_sense wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:15 am (UTC)
Everyone as freedom of speech - but only the foolish are unaware that there may be consequences to their expression.
savage cant handle a black person being judged on merit on a level playing field!!!
[info]maradona_786 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:19 am (UTC)
what is it with this yank who likes to shout his mouth off he should just except we live in a world where you should be judged on merit that is what you call a level playing field he gives the ordinary american on the street a bad name
Re: savage cant handle a black person being judged on merit on a level playing field!!!
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:27 am (UTC)
The ordinary, average American makes up at 70% of the population in the states. I'd call that a majority, wouldn't you? Therefore, Savage is appealing to the masses. You don't have to tune into his broadcast if you don't want to. Be selective - choose another station.
The Sixteen
[info]achillois wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:26 am (UTC)
Ms Smith is to be lauded for keeping fascists and extremists out of GB.
Re: The Sixteen
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:33 pm (UTC)
It hasn't escaped me over the years that proponents of Marxism have a nasty habit of labelling free-minded thinkers as fascists.
Re: The Sixteen - [info]achillois - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: The Sixteen - [info]collin_brown - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 01:13 pm (UTC) Expand
Please can we talk about something else..?
[info]eurobenjy wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:48 am (UTC)
JS is sounding off to divert attention away from the rubbish job as HS she is doing, as well as from the scandal of her expenses-fiddling.

Savage is sounding off because it's his job. This is radio gold for him.

None of this will ever amount to anything. Most of the people on the list are in prison anyway, and could never get here.

Please stop wasting column inches on this.
What happened to freedom of speech?
[info]funkybluecheese wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:08 am (UTC)
Thanks, Ms Smith, for deciding for us, who is desirable and who is not! Surely, if you let this man and others on this 'evil list' speak, we can make an informed judgement, and create discussion and sound arguments to oppose their views. By silencing them, do you think it stops people having these beliefs?
If she is sued the taxpayer will pay for it
[info]robred wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:15 am (UTC)
Her legal costs and compensation awarded if he wins, will probably, knowing her track record be charged to her expenses.
Re: If she is sued the taxpayer will pay for it
[info]uanime5 wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:21 pm (UTC)
He can't sue her personally, he has to sue the Government. But the tax payer will pick up the bill regardless.
Re: If she is sued the taxpayer will pay for it - [info]robred - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 09:31 pm (UTC) Expand
Barred Shock-Jock
[info]lawrat wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:33 am (UTC)
Well done Jaqui Smith.The people in the list are narrow minded bigots who should be kept out at all costs. Their knowledge of science is am sure is zero.They are mainly flat-earth people who belong to the middle ages and no doubt still believe in a rain god.
Re: Barred Shock-Jock
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 03:34 pm (UTC)
You've exposed your Marxist credentials using that stale rhetoric.
Re: Barred Shock-Jock - [info]ggarlick46 - Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 10:22 pm (UTC) Expand
Spreading Hate
[info]tresfun wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:17 am (UTC)
Free speech is good. He can say what he wants and we can not listen. I am glad he is on this list. God is love. Life is love. This sad little man rightfully calls himself Savage because he has a small retarded heart - how sad.
Re: Spreading Hate
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 12:54 pm (UTC)
Without free speech, no-one would of heard of Savage. But because of free speech, you can now choose to avoid him.

See how it works yet?
Smith's adage should apply to all.
[info]mind_ful wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 11:30 am (UTC)
I agree with Jacqui Smith that coming to the UK is a priviledge and that those who live here should abide by our values and laws. This would therefor apply to many of an islamic faith who deprive women of their rights and freedoms, many gypsies who marry their children off, and groups such as the Pilgrim Bretheren who deny women a voice and make them stay at home instead of allowing them out into their wider cimmunities, and then dictate who their young people will marry. To the extremely rich Egyptians whose wives have to live in bin bags in the gardens of their exclusinve Thames estates, or any other group who have their own laws which they impose-mainly on women, contravening the liberal rules of this country on freedom of speech, movment and life-choices. When are we going to tackle these groups already resident in the UK?
Re: Smith's adage should apply to all.
[info]collin_brown wrote:
Wednesday, 6 May 2009 at 01:43 pm (UTC)
Mr Smith is a self-confessed hardcore feminist with an unconfirmed bias towards Marxist ideology. Therefor I agree with little she espouses upon the nation particularly when 90% of her vitriol aimed at us is hypocrisy personified.
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