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Notes on a small island: The things that really make Britain great

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From rolling hills to rolling cheeses, morris dancing to readers' wives, our nation has a host of endearing pecularities to celebrate. In an extract from his new book, Iain Aitch takes stock of the sights and sounds that truly make us who we are

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What?
[info]critique2009 wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 12:18 pm (UTC)
This is quite an amusing article but shouldn't it have been called 'The things we hate about Britain?' OK, maybe it was supposed to be ironic, but I'm not so sure. It seemed to vary from things like allotments and jumble sales which people 'like' in a sort of ironic nostalgic way, to things we all downright hate, like yellow lines.

Ah, I see, it wasn't actually written by the Independent...it's just an extract from a book somebody else has written. All the Independent did was give it a title and form the collection...which seem to be the worst things about it!

Seriously, The Independent is becoming a joke. It's always been a brilliant newspaper, but ridiculous and hastily knocked up articles like this designed to attract casual surfers and hence advertising revenue are really giving it a bad name.

It's a shame, because with a little more thought, this could have been a good article.
Re: What?
[info]perk_i wrote:
Saturday, 3 October 2009 at 08:01 pm (UTC)
Erm, actually it strikes me that by sticking to the positive things you cite about it as a newspaper, and including casual contributions from other sources, there's something for everyone.
[info]eurolinguist wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 12:39 pm (UTC)
I don't know whether the Bacardi is a joke or a particularly apt metonym.
britain is a sh**hole
[info]britfree wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 02:47 pm (UTC)
i love my own country : Scotland ,and you know ? as geographical desvription , like scandanavia , i suppose i might concede a certain charm to rest of the island , however as long as it remains a politically loaded term , britain is a sh**hole , soar alba
Re: britain is a sh**hole
[info]ggarlick46 wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 09:24 pm (UTC)
Britfree stay north of the border,else us brits will lynch you.
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Great Britain
[info]krekelin wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
Public Footpaths that are countryside Rights of Way and green lanes that stradle the country. (The ones that have not been impeded). The real jewels in the crown that don't exist on the same scale, anywhere else in the world.
Little Britain
[info]james_yates wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 03:33 pm (UTC)
Things that make Germany great: Allotments (Schrebergarten); Roadside inns with comprehensive menues and fresh, local food (and no Little Chef production-line stuff) where drinks are available and children welcome; No Cornish Pasties but meals with real beef and not just meat sauce, Corner shops, Garden gnomes, Blankets and countryside which you can sit on because people have a legal right to access, including lake sides; No cheap plastic raincoats; City centres where you can walk at night without fear of being raped or robbed; No no-go areas, for example in Belfast, where foreigners are attacked in their own homes with impunity by Nazi gangs; Newspaper which are independent and liberal and more than comics or propaganda rags for spreading the big-business, anti-democratic and nationalistic ideas of their millionaire owners; to see what Britain is really like; see Little Britain.
Re: Little Britain
[info]sameth99200 wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 10:10 pm (UTC)
Oh, OH! You missed out the great German superiority complex! And the fabled sense of humor.
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Iain...Really?
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 04:03 pm (UTC)
Iain Aitch, you are witty one aren't you. You are a tease and a bit of a scoundrel to boot. I bet your 'friend' thinks your a very funny man, a Bobby Davro of our age. Was the comic genius inherited or developed? You are the wit and the wisdom of our times, and such a clever title, nothing like the one used by another famous author, whose amusing and very wealthy. Good luck you cheeky, cheeky chap. Bless.
Re: Iain...Really?
[info]repomonkey wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:14 pm (UTC)
So pleased to see that the sense of humour bypass operation went so well.
Great?
[info]ta6rma wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 04:32 pm (UTC)
The things that really make Britain GRATE surely?
Britain is great
[info]bossisparent wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 06:23 pm (UTC)
Yes, there are loads of things I like about Britain, like tea and scones, cheesecakes. The art de vivre, the relaxing way of life, the sense of humour, all the comedies on TV and the way British people are ready to laugh at about anything and every thing, the capacity at welcoming new immigrants from all over the world. I also love the pubs, lager and lime and the pub's grub. The lovely sandwiches with cress and the little shops where people take the time to have a chat. The top of the double decker buses from which you have a wonderful view of other people's upstairs bedrooms. It can also be a bit scary. I love the comfortable plushy seats in trains . The green lawns with games of cricket and putting. I also care for fish and chips eaten outside in winter with a picked onion on top. And above all, I love the truly beautiful English language. But there is one thing I do not like at all (sorry), that is the gutter press. They spoil people's lives it would be much better to go back to the time when other people's excentricities never raised an eyebrow.
Morris Dancing?
[info]chiennoir wrote:
Friday, 17 April 2009 at 07:04 pm (UTC)
Morris Dancing? You should come to Edinburgh for Beltane.
Re: Morris Dancing?
[info]britfree wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 12:47 am (UTC)
black dug is that yersel ? see ya on the calton hill !
What makes Britain Great
[info]shelair wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 07:24 am (UTC)
Cat's Eyes - Travel throughout the world and you will notice that the one thing that really makes Britains roads great are Cat's Eyes, "The cat's eye is a retroreflective safety device used in road marking and was the first of a range of raised pavement markers. It originated from the UK in 1933 and is used all over the world", from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Invent by Percy Shaw of Halifax in 1933, they are a truly British invention and make moving around on Britain's highways a lot safer than anywhere else in the World.
Re: Morris Dancing?
[info]chiennoir wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 09:03 am (UTC)
Brit-free. That's the trouble with the English. They're so namby-pamby they can't even do a good pagan orgy!
Re: Morris Dancing?
[info]britfree wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 11:32 am (UTC)
hey there ,theres no capital "b" in britfree , when it becomes a purely geographic description , like scandinavia , i might let the term britain slide , otherwise i ALWAYS bridle when i'm included ,lil ol' rejectionist me
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small island
[info]briscris wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 12:50 pm (UTC)
Isn't this just a list of stuff from a 70's childhood?
Re: small island
[info]tominlondon wrote:
Tuesday, 21 April 2009 at 08:31 pm (UTC)
and there's no apostrophe in 70s.
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why I became an ex-pat...
[info]thelatimes wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 04:06 pm (UTC)
Strange, this happens to be a (partial) list of the things that convinced me to stop living in Britain and become a permanent ex-pat.

Most other countries actually have valuable, profound, worthwhile things which contribute to their greatness. Britain's finest cultural icons are morris dancing and the thermos flask.

Let's face it, this is actually a list of the lame, pointless things which are considered stereotypically British, usually with a negative connotation.

So if you're a morris dancer who sits wrapped in a tartan blanket planning his allotment on a caravan site, while drinking weak milky tea out of a thermos flask to relieve his hangover from too many alcopops the night before, then you can truly be proud to call yourself British. And, by the way, you're also boring and stupid.
Re: why I became an ex-pat...
[info]ggarlick46 wrote:
Saturday, 18 April 2009 at 08:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah our contribution to culture only consisted of shakespeare,,marlowe,turner,wordsworth,blake,byron,shelley,constable etc,plus the best rock and pop bands and singers etc in the world,great scientists like newton etc,greatest inventors etc,face it BRITAIN IS GREAT, then and even now,else why would everyone abroad despise and envy us so much.
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Britain ISGreat
[info]gwyfie wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 08:06 am (UTC)
As a ten pound Pom since 1958, I think I am truly an Australian; HOWEVER I bristile at those who want to run down the old place called 'home' and I've been there a few times since. Remember Britain & Ireland learnt civilisation from the Romans but PERFECTED IT !!!! We have the mother of all parliaments (not the mother of all battles), we are the creator of most recognised sports, the defender of all those who need help, the father of all A LOT OF NATIONS (vide responsible government), the inventor of most if the civil institutions that do form a democracy AND I COULD GO ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember Ireland is the conscience of Britain and they both work well together.

Leave the Poms alone and let them lead again, then the WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE!!!!!
Re: Britain WAS Great
[info]ravenseft wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 02:08 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately the Britain of 1958 bears no resemblance to the cesspit this once proud country has become. Your comments like many of the images shown in the article are throwbacks to a long-dead past.
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Great Britain
[info]jane_smith55 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC)
This article, in fact without saying as much, reveals perhaps one of the really great things abourt Britain which is our abiltiy and willingness to poke fun at ourselves and aspects of the British way of life. Other nations seem to take themselves more seriously and while still being able to enjoy our sense of humour don't seem to be able to go down that route themselves. Only a nation with utter confidence in its history, its great writers, scentists and so on would have the confidence to do this. Our sense of humour is considered unique and so often self mockery is a crucial ingredient.
Re: britain is a sh**hole
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Sunday, 19 April 2009 at 10:56 pm (UTC)
Don't worry about Britbore. His analyst is an Englishman who probed his constant need to wear a skirt. Apparently, he has a 'collection' all bought at M&S. No Tartan in one of them (their mini, by the way), a requirement, in the seedier side of Glasgow, where he plies his trade. Poor petal. Bless.
Re: britain is a sh**hole
[info]britfree wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 12:08 am (UTC)
a doctor has certified that i remain unprobed by any , look dummy , this is a good insult :.i wear p**m**k kilts sown by candlelight in a third world hellhole by bonded child labour who get whipped and sent to bed with no supper , so that i can indulge in anti english moony-ing rituals with my braveheart loser mates .but in a typically stingy low rent jock like way .what i am not so keen to admit however is that i go to bed every night secretly relieved that my whole existence is in fact guaranteed in default by good old johnny english . that i could not imagine any other reality than as a junior partner in a fading post imperial contrick that has poured a middle eastern kingdoms oil wealth down an ever open english maw in return for Scotland getting some of the lowest social indices in the developed world , naw ,you couldnt believe how happy i am ,that its nearly over
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Wind up my...
[info]kodak321 wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 12:33 am (UTC)
Britbore, take it easy....chill. I'll have a word with your analyst, take it easy, and sleep tight. Night, night. Bless, the poor wee thing.
U kidding?
[info]nigel777 wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 06:29 am (UTC)
More like: "If this is the best we can do to celebrate England, no wonder the world views us as a piece of shit".. Greatest claim to fame alcopops _ while admitting they were invented in Australia? Seriously sad comment on a country that has ceased to matter.
Re: U kidding?
[info]ravinrob wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 03:36 pm (UTC)
Er - this is The Independent. Of course they're only going to run the country down.
Notes on a small island
[info]neilinely wrote:
Monday, 20 April 2009 at 07:47 pm (UTC)
Just as an amusing/pedantic/trivia aside (take your pick) it always amuses me to see Britain described as a "small island". We might be a small country compared to, say Russia (though we're big compared with many countries, such as Belgium, and mid-size in terms of population), but as islands go we're bloody massive - Britain is actually the eight-biggest island in the entire world! Now Muck, or Caldey, or Lundy, they're small islands!

On a more serious note, I can't help thinking that the Brits have, over the centuries, used this 'small island' myth to their own advantage - 'plucky little Britain stands alone against ther Nazis', 'this tiny little island built an empire that ran the globe', that kind of thing, to show how extraordinary the British are when in fact we were never a small island or a small country in the first place. Sure, Britain punched above its weight due to technological and industrial developments, etc, but it's time the 'plucky little Britain' and 'small island' myth was challenged and debunked instead of just swallowed unthinkingly.
Misunderstand of Great
[info]neilinely wrote:
Tuesday, 21 April 2009 at 11:00 pm (UTC)
It's worth remembering that the Great in Great Britain has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with being great in the sense of wonderful, fantastic, etc - it actually means great in the sense of enlarged (adopted when England and Wales merged with Scotland to form Great Britain, just as Greater London is much larger than (as opposed to better than) Inner London (the same applied to Greater Manchester).

Sadly, nearly every Brit has forgotten this and just assumes it means 'wow, we are soooo great'. In terms of creating national arrogance, it was the worst-possible name that could have been chosen.

If you want conclusive proof it doesn't mean wonderful, try visiting Great Yarmouth. 'Nuff said.
Re: Misunderstand of Great
[info]headtheball wrote:
Tuesday, 6 October 2009 at 05:55 pm (UTC)
You are wrong.

The Great in Great Britain means large. Ireland is Little Britain where little means small. These are the two biggest islands in the British Isles.
Go On My Son
[info]billywhiskey wrote:
Thursday, 23 April 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
Next time I go caravanning..with a box of breezers..eating bacon sarnies at little chef...joining in the dogging sessions..with my sticky copy of readers wives in the back seat of my illegally parked car...Thanks Independent for all the hot tips confirming state encouraged debauchery being filtered through mainstream media.
great
[info]jaffe4 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 April 2009 at 11:07 pm (UTC)
Just one fact and one fact only has made the UK great--by default. And that is its relatively close proximity to its indisputably great neighbor, Gaul.
Re: great
[info]ggarlick46 wrote:
Wednesday, 29 April 2009 at 11:58 pm (UTC)
What gall.
Alcopops: with Fish and Chips
[info]famulla wrote:
Sunday, 10 May 2009 at 11:22 am (UTC)
Alcopops: an integral part of the British way of life? All right, add fish and chips. That is the Brits life. Do not shout please it is cheap booze from Jamaica. Made from fermented cabbage and bananas and coconut water that is good fro your daughter.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
What makes Britain Great
[info]amt57 wrote:
Monday, 11 May 2009 at 10:32 am (UTC)
you could paraphrase the whole article by simply saying 'the fifties'. Scary.
[info]britfree wrote:
Monday, 11 May 2009 at 02:29 pm (UTC)
reading the heavily censored comments below ...... it certainly isnt free speech
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