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Trick or treat: Is Halloween another tacky American import or a bit of harmless fun that boosts the economy?

Heidi Scrimgeour explains why her children will be roaming the streets in scary costumes tonight


MICKEY DUZYJ

As urban legends go, the one about unsuspecting trick-or-treaters having their Halloween loot spiked with razor blades is pretty chilling. Spookier still is the "fact" that the only records of serious injury resulting from poisoned booty involved children booby-trapping the items themselves, or parents poisoning their own offspring. I suspect those rumours, like the one about hospitals offering to X-ray trick-or-treat sweets, are also the stuff of legend – but none the less it's enough to put us paranoid parents off altogether. And yet my children have been at near coma-inducing levels of excitement about their plans for weeks. Their outfits are ready, so too their plastic pumpkin buckets, and their last words before falling asleep each night are a variation of "How many more sleeps now, Mama?"

This is one of those classic parenting moments in which I theoretically adhere to one school of thought while practising another entirely. Some people call that hypocrisy; I prefer to think of it as the inbuilt survival instinct of a parent. Because, come tea-time today, I will be watching from a safe distance (about two feet) while my sons, aged three and four and a half, knock on the doors of our neighbours in a thinly-veiled attempt to beg strangers for items that are usually contraband except for on Fridays, special occasions, or when Mama needs to meet an urgent deadline. You see? It makes no sense. I spend all year instructing them never to talk to strangers but, for one night only, I'll actively encourage them to dress up as flesh-eating zombies and demand sugar-laden treats from people they don't know. Why?

Well, why not? I've heard all the arguments against trick-or-treating, from legitimate safety concerns, to the idea that it's just plain rude to let children knock on doors to demand treats. But I've still yet to hear an argument that counters the wonderment and excited glee that trick-or-treating elicits.

I wouldn't have considered trick-or-treating before we moved to a sleepy coastal town in Northern Ireland. In London we were unlikely to knock on a neighbour's door except to ask them to turn the music down but here, Halloween is huge and it seems churlish not to join in the fun, which culminates with a street parade and a fireworks display over the harbour. It surprised me to learn that Halloween originated in Ireland, and only became big in America in the mid-19th century when the potato famine drove more than one million Irish immigrants across the water. So it's not just a tacky US import after all, and we get to indulge in trick-or-treating in the name of embracing our Irish cultural heritage.

Halloween, or All Hallows Eve, is said to have its roots in the Celtic festival of Samhain, a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture, sometimes regarded as the Celtic New Year. The tradition of trick-or-treating is an adaptation of the medieval practice of souling, where people would offer to sing and say prayers for the dead in return for food. In recent times the "trick" element has made headlines, with feverish talk of knife-wielding hooligans using the opportunity to terrorise the elderly and vulnerable, and rumours that some London boroughs had attempted to ban trick-or-treating altogether. That is precisely why I'm inclined to indulge my little zombies in their Halloween excitement. If we're too afraid of our own shadows to exchange pleasantries with our neighbours, then something's up with society.

Trick-or-treating might afford my children a unique opportunity to understand giving, sharing and neighbourliness. The best maths lesson I've ever had? Dividing up the Halloween spoils with my brother and our cousins. Far from banging on doors rudely demanding treats, trick-or-treating strikes me as a jolly good excuse to strike up conversations with the strangers we live next door to.

What's more, it's good for the economy. Halloween is now a multi-million pound industry in the UK, with some retailers seeing 31 October emerging as the second most lucrative trading period of the year after Christmas (and overtaking Easter, too). Last year, sales of Halloween items, including costumes, themed food and drink, sweets and decorations, were expected to top £195m, rising from an estimated £12m in 2001. According to analysts, British Halloween spending is catching up with the US, where an average family spends approximately £65 on Halloween paraphernalia in a nationwide industry said to be worth £4.7 billion.

While the economic downturn has sunk its teeth into UK spending, Halloween is biting back. Not even a recession can dampen Halloween spirit, it seems. A leading UK Halloween fancy dress and party manufacturer (smiffys.com) says more customers than ever have placed their orders early this year, with an increase of 124 per cent in the amount spent by customers by May of this year, compared to the same time in 2008. "Over the three months that we ship the Halloween stock to our retailers – August, September and October – we have seen a 15 per cent increase in sales compared to last year, and we expect this figure to grow by the end of the month," reports Smiffy's spokeswoman, Anouska Sawyer. "During this three-month period we've sold just under 124,000 Halloween costumes (that's 206 every hour) and 33,975 units of our white face paint (that's nearly one every minute). Recession? What recession!"

That's a view shared by many retailers, including Pure Party, part of the Clinton Cards group, which has more than 40 stores around the UK and has just launched an online shop to coincide with Halloween (purepartyonline.co.uk). Pure Party saw a 41 per cent increase in sales of Halloween home decoration packs, and attributes this partly to the fact that Halloween falls on a Saturday this year, which may have prompted more people to host Halloween parties at home.

Kim Einhorn of the party planning company Theme Traders (themetraders.co.uk) agrees that the recession has had an impact on Halloween spending. "Companies don't want to pay for full Halloween party planning and installation services this year but they're doing it themselves, imaginatively. We're hiring out far more props than ever before – everything from life-size Dracula statues to tables that resemble coffins," she says. "Recession sparks an appetite in people for an escape to a fantasy world, and that's what Halloween is all about."

Ashvina Lockmum, buyer of false eyelashes for high-street beauty retailer Superdrug, agrees. "Lashes are big business. Brits now spend over £10m a year on boosting their lashes with falsies," she reports. Superdrug expects to sell around 50,000 pairs of false eyelashes during Halloween week.

If Halloween gives consumers an opportunity to escape their recessionary woes, it's also a chance to indulge a dark sense of humour in dark times. According to retailers in the UK and the US, Michael Jackson and the convicted Ponzi fraudster Bernard Madoff are among the most popular costume choices for 2009. Analysts IBIS World report that last year, when the financial outlook was much bleaker, the Halloween spirit remained unaffected and US sales grew 5.1 per cent from 2007.

Liverpool's Alma de Cuba is a former church converted into a bar and restaurant which hosts one of the most popular Halloween events in the country. Last year's event attracted more than 500 revellers and this year's party theme is the "Battle of Angels and Demons". Marketing director Tekla Simo (who fittingly hails from Transylvania, the home of Dracula) says: "We're increasingly seeing people make a huge effort at Halloween to dress up and hit the town, which is very positive for the economy."

Greggs, the UK bakery retailer, took the Halloween spirit a step further this year by inviting a local coven of witches into its new £16.5m bakery in Manchester. Amethyst, Amber and Aquamarine blessed the recipes for a range of Halloween treats including bat biscuits, toffee apple lattices and creepy cupcakes before they were dispatched to 1,400 outlets across the UK. "We were delighted to be invited by Greggs to cast a positive blessing on the bakery and the goodies they're making," says Amethyst. "The traditional blessing we use brings protection and prosperity during an important and ancient British festival and it's great to think we're passing on some positivity to Greggs' customers around the country and at the same time dispelling some of the myths and stereotypes that surround our Craft."

That's a controversial move, given that Halloween is also traditionally connected to the Christian celebration of All Saints; a link that has largely been swept aside by growing commercial influences. In recent years the Bishop of Bolton, the Right Rev David Gillett, has challenged supermarkets to offer alternatives to the scary masks and costumes that are on sale. Halloween Choice (halloweenchoice.org) exists in partnership with The Children's Society and the Church of England and campaigns for retailers to offer a wider range of goods to mark the occasion. A spokesman said: "Our concern is not with the fact that people are making money out of the event, as clearly the celebration has a positive impact on the UK economy, but with the type of products being stocked and the emphasis on goods designed to scare and shock. Not everyone want to see children dressed as monsters and murderers."

It turns out that flesh-eating zombies aren't actually all that popular with little boys either, so we've compromised on Spiderman costumes this year. Much less scary – and somehow so much more in keeping with the spirit in which we're going trick-or-treating. Where's the harm in a neighbourly visit from a pint-sized Spidey-duo on a dark and wintry night? And I promise to eat the lion's share of the sweets too, just to spare them the evils of the sugar, of course.

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Dont forget the other age groups
[info]sameth99200 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC)
Halloween is a special occasion for age groups other than children. For teenagers, it provides the best opportunity of the year to cause a sort of legitimized havoc armed with eggs, supersoakers and toilet roll. For the young adults its the perfect excuse to throw a party or go out to get blind drunk dressed as a ninja turtle or Mr. T, and for parents, well, it gives a great opportunity for a bit of harmless fun (kids like nothing more than dressing up) and bonding with the bairns. And for one parent it might make for a welcome quiet night in without kids around the house, until they come knocking at your door that is.

Keep Halloween I say, there seems precious time for a bit of fun these days.
Halloween's rubbish..
[info]viaferria wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:19 am (UTC)
..it really is. Pumpkin lanterns are quite pretty though.
Delusional Mother Syndrome
[info]zen4comment wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 04:24 am (UTC)
No mention of how Dad/Hubbie support this mother earth delusional view of Halloween. She writes like a goody two shoes out of the Enid Blyton genre.
I loved it as a kid
[info]simonbell wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 07:10 am (UTC)
I grew up in Glasgow in the 50's and Halloween was huge. The streets were full of kids going round the doors, singing for an orange or some nuts. The notion that it's American in origin is nonsense.
Of course I am of the Enid Blyton generation, but all the better for it!
Re: I loved it as a kid
[info]theelectrician wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:15 am (UTC)
Same here, in the 50's, but in northern England. Did you make lanterns by hollowing out turnips like we did?
Re: I loved it as a kid - [info]oarinput - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:31 am (UTC) Expand
Re: I loved it as a kid - [info]sameth99200 - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:46 pm (UTC) Expand
Definitely Tacky
[info]terryphi wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 07:54 am (UTC)
Yes, it is a tacky American import cynically exploited by commercial interests (including newspapers) - and a feeble excuse for teenage yobs to run riot.
Re: Definitely Tacky
[info]jadroo wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:26 am (UTC)
Its an ancient European and especially Christian tradition. It was supressed in England by killjoy Christians during the Reformation because of it's Pagag connotations.

Great to see it making a comeback (and great that it's pissing off Christian fundamentalists)
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]sunday1morning - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:38 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]jadroo - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]terryphi - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:11 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]jadroo - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:16 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]doug_piranha - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:15 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Definitely Tacky - [info]jadroo - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:21 am (UTC) Expand
Tacky, Tacky, Tacky
[info]petermarlon wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:10 am (UTC)
I think that it is very tacky, i'm only aged 15 but a strong christian. There is nothing in halloween for me. Just like the commercialization of christmas it is wrong. The fact that people grow up all through their life with the knowledge of don't talk to strangers, don't accept gifts of sweets and don't knock on their door... The word 'Hypocritical' springs to mind. There could be 1000 nice people in their houses, all you need is 1 out of those thousand to ruin someone's life.
Re: Tacky, Tacky, Tacky
[info]godlovesume2 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:33 pm (UTC)
Very well put comment, Peter. You are a very wise young man. All we, as Christians, can dois pray for the people leaving these comments. Commercializing the holiday makes people think less of it, then its original meaning is overlooked. Halloween is a pagan holiday. While folks are taking their children around asking for candy, some people are practicing devil worship and offering sacrifices. The best way to get people to accept evil is to costume it as fun or harmless. People please be careful what you celebrate.

Also, the fact that some of you are bothered at being visited by children shows me that you are lacking something in your lives. Why would you take delight at scaring children who are being misled? I understand, you are missing the peace and love in your heart that comes from having a relationship with Christ. Whomever visits my house, I welcome. I am protected and loved by God and want to share the peace that brings me with others.

I know that some of you will comment horribly and you know what? I LOVE YOU anyway. The mass of our universe, the sunrise, your child being born...how can you see these things and not believe in God?! Open your hearts and minds to the beauty of life and know that is a wonderous creation by an awesome God. His Son Jesus died for you and rose again to cover our sins. If you believe on these things, you are saved and will live forever. It's a beatiful thing! Life isn't cranky or crappy. You don't see the bad in everything. You don't complain. You live your life blessed and happy, you help others, and you know that you are FOREVER LOVED. God bless you all.
Re: Tacky, Tacky, Tacky - [info]ourmaninferney - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 04:30 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Tacky, Tacky, Tacky - [info]morinted - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 05:37 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Tacky, Tacky, Tacky - [info]omglalala - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 04:14 pm (UTC) Expand
Halloween
[info]grounded00 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 08:30 am (UTC)
Once more foreign culture has pushed English culture to one side, and let's face it,it's all about money.
[info]doug_piranha wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:04 am (UTC)
i did't read it all - because like so many middle class people -
this article talks about herself - first and foremost - and her kids
No one else matters

RUDE to knock on other people's doors ?- no it 's regular pain in the backside
I want my friends to knock on my door - maybe a stranger in distress - but just
because other people want somehting FROM me ?
NO - push off - don't want religious nuts - salemen - people "doing a survey",
kids driving me crazy. I want ot do what I want to do - UNinterupted.

Tacky - tacky - tacky - amercian import.
Of coruse the kids love it - if that's the criteria - let them eat what food they like -
watch what telly they like - stay up as long as they like ....................

Time for the world to stop being run by feeble parents who obey their kids.

Killjoy ? Me ?
No I just don't like people feeling they have a God given right to demand things from me.
Halloween: A tacky consumerist product from USA.
[info]workerholic_joe wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:46 am (UTC)
One of our neighbours has staked his front lawn out with coffins and R.I.P crosses and other Halloween related crap. How much has he spent? Couldn't he have entertained his kids just as well if not better with a well told Halloween story?

Idiot.
Why Import America's Idiocy?
[info]afghant wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 09:56 am (UTC)
The English do have a very rich and interesting culture and an extensive history, which is why I am confused why would they be so imbued with American idiocy such as Halloween and even the American version of Rugby- Americans call football? I also wonder why the Japanese are so obsessed and impressed by anything American? It was the Americans who devastated their country with nuclear bombs - a vile act which to this day causes horrible genetic anomalies in Japanese babies. Worse, to this day the average American either supports the slaughter and genocide of millions of Japanese or is absolutely clueless, as they are about everything else, that the event ever took place. As a "foreigner" I am left scratching my head as Americans and other goofs who follow them, abandoning their much touted "Christian" religion to chase and emulate ghouls, devils and every thing satanic. But Why? They even take their children on begging trips -even adults dress up looking like champion fools, knocking on every bloody door, while dressed like morons, begging pathetically for bloody candy. For whose benefit I wonder? Frankly I am disgusted by this annual spectacle of idiots, with entire neighbourhoods parading like fools their shallow culture and bewildering ignorance. I suppose its vulgar commercialism. Who knows.
Re: Why Import America's Idiocy?
[info]battier wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC)
Probably don't get invited to many parties, do you?

People like having fun and being entertained. That's why Japanese animation and British bands have been popular in America for decades. It's a two way street, oh ignorant one.
Re: Why Import America's Idiocy? - [info]a_abrams139 - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:54 pm (UTC) Expand
The English don't understand Halloween
[info]dourscot wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 10:50 am (UTC)
Part of the controversy about Halloween is that it's not 'English' and not Christian. It is Scottish/Irish and pagan. That's a part of our British culture some want to push to the fringe.
[info]starlingnl wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 11:10 am (UTC)
Whatever the reason for celebrating it, there's just something about lit up pumpkins and lanterns and running around in the dark.

Of course, if you really want to scare the little kiddies, you've gotta look at Krampus ... (Google him/it)!
yanks and balloons.
[info]leoardo wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:34 pm (UTC)
its ascam to pickpocket the punters of their cash, and the attack is on the weak flank,(their children) so its boy in the balloon moment with costumes.
how rude...
[info]djks wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 12:36 pm (UTC)
as one of those theoretically "tacky Americans", I find it particularly rude that Halloween is approached originally as a potentially "tacky American import" then when it is discovered that it has Irish or Celtic roots, it's suddenly all hunky dory, "let's embrace our Irish cultural heritage". what hogwash. I have English "roots" and Scotch Irish "roots", my husband has English and Irish Catholic "roots", we are very much "rooted" in the UK... as for that matter are MOST Americans, still (for now, at least). yet, not just the article, but even the comments are blatantly anti-American. wth!?! well, you know what!?! despite the fact that we have 52% of our country that got stupid and elected an ass as President, this time around... we are still your allies, believe it or not; we are still your "cousins", and I don't get where the hostility comes from.
Great piece
[info]kimthomas wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 01:23 pm (UTC)
I thought this was a lovely, well-written article that hits the nail right on the head. I'm in Heidi's camp: theoretically don't approve, but will be doing it anyway. I'm not quite sure why people have to be so churlish and miserable about it.
We Like It
[info]philo07 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 01:24 pm (UTC)
Frankly, I don't care if the UK wants to celebrate the way Americans do or not. If y'all don't like how we do it, don't do it. I get so damn tired of hearing about American cultural imperialism. If you don't like our television, music, celebrations, etc, then don't do it. It's that simple.
Halloween is British, not American
[info]meclectic wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 01:45 pm (UTC)
The headline is perplexing. Surely Heidi, as a journalist, should know that Halloween originated in Britain. It's exploited by America and reimported to Britain (and marketed to other countries) who are very happy to believe it's American, as the Americans intend.
Re: Halloween is British, not American
[info]philo07 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 01:48 pm (UTC)
First off, we know it orginated in Britain, and of course it's going to take a different from in American culture. But it does not have to be reimported. If you don't like it, don't adapt to the way we celebrate!!!! What is so hard about that? If you do not like our culture, do not bring it into your society. Is it that hard to understand?
Re: Halloween is British, not American - [info]philo07 - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 01:57 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Halloween is British, not American - [info]mrjohn01 - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:06 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Halloween is British, not American - [info]emilysears - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:27 pm (UTC) Expand
Of course Britain hates Halloween
[info]johnnyyank wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:19 pm (UTC)
When you strip it down, what Halloween is really about is children having fun in an environment of trust. Of course the English hate it. The English despise children. What is more, Halloween could never succeed in Britain. Children are not safe on British streets as a good number of your adults hunt them as sex objects. I think Britain would need a "vetting and barring" Halloween, which might tend to take some of the joy and spontaneity out of it.
We exported the tradition to America in the first place
[info]undergroundcaro wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:26 pm (UTC)
I'm tired of hearing about Hallowe'en in the media as if it is an unwelcome American import. Children in Scotland have been celebrating Hallowe'en and 'guising in costume since before my great-grandmother's day. This may well not have been something that was common in the south of England but it has certainly been celebrated elsewhere in the British Isles for a very long time. Some of my happiest childhood memories involve dressing up on the 31st of October to visit the neighbours and do a 'turn' such as reciting a poem or singing a song in exchange for toffee apples or sweets. We also played party games such as 'dooking' for apples. I think many of the traditions around this season were overshadowed in England by the Guy Fawkes celebrations, where children would go round the doors looking for a 'penny for the guy'. This tradition had crept into the central belt of Scotland at least by my Father's time in the 1950s and became amalgamated with the Hallowe'en celebrations there. My only sadness at the more American style of celbration is the idea of 'trick or treat' where children seem to expect sweets just for turning up - learning a song or peom for 'guising was all part of the fun of the season.
Re: We exported the tradition to America in the first place
[info]philo07 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:33 pm (UTC)
Guising has existed and does exist in various regions of North America as well. Trick or Treating developed in the '30s and '40s in America. It didn't really take hold in Britain until the '80s.
It's not a rumor
[info]rwalker66 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 02:39 pm (UTC)
You wrote: I suspect those rumours, like the one about hospitals offering to X-ray trick-or-treat sweets, are also the stuff of legend.

That's not a rumor. It has been going on here in the US for over 20 years. Go to Google, click news, and type in thee search box "halloween x-ray candy". You will see tons of stories about hospitals doing it this Halloween. It also mentions some airports and colleges doing it.
Re: It's not a rumor
[info]djks wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
yes, I didn't bother to address that, but I noticed that too. very true. and the whole razor blade thing!?! it did happen. along with ex-lax (a chocolate flavored laxative) being put into homemade candies, which was the impetus for telling parents and kids to only eat candies that were still factory wrapped. there are a lot of sick puppies out there. and the US is huge, so... there are a lot of them here in the US. I am sure the UK has them too. we've heard our share of stories from across the pond, believe me.
giving away free candy capitalist exploitation???
[info]dpapaccio5 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:03 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how brits can see people giving away free candy to children as capitalist exploitation, but considering the irrtational level of antiAmericanism in europe all these years, such twisted thinking is expected. You people are debbie downers.
European fantasies
[info]dpapaccio5 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:09 pm (UTC)
Europeans are a commical lot. You blame Americans for all your troubles (war in n. Ireland, obesity, gang violence, and the latest now is blaming the US for the holocaust) and then you aggrandize as your own those things about America that you like: rock n roll, the Internet, cell phones, and Halloween. How often do I hear these things are british?? What a joke! The really scary thing is is that since the US media acts like a virtual tourist brochure for the UK and europe in general, far too many Americans buy right into your hysteria. No wonder we hate our country as much as you do.
Re: European fantasies
[info]pipeont wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 07:13 pm (UTC)
The first commercial cell phone was created by Ericsson 1956 in Sweden. The first truly mobile cell phone created by Leonid Kupriyanovich in Moscow, 1957.
Whilst it is true that the beginnings of the internet were in ARPANET (US DoD network), the internet is a global IP network. HTML, upon which the world wide web depends, the interface to the internet which most people recognise, was developed by Tim Berners-Lee (an Englishman) working at CERN (Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire).
Hallowe'en, the Christian replacement for the Gaelic festival Samhain, was celebrated in Europe centuries before America was discovered, and Samhain for thousands of years.
Perhaps a little research before posting such utter drivel?
Pagan holiday hijacked by Christianity...
[info]ancientoneuk wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:11 pm (UTC)
Summer's End was widely practised many years before Christianity was even heard of and was the most important festival of the year across much of Europe.

All Saint's was created directly to break the Samain festivel by Papal edict in the 7th Century.

There is some conjecture that on the main feast day, children would dress up as spirits or elementals and "scare" treats out of the massed people whether this is the case or is just a pithy explanation for allowing children to beg on our doorsteps or scare the living wits out of the elderly I don't know.

One thing of note is that during this festival, whether at peace or at war with their neighbours, all hostilities would stop for this festival due to its vast importance to the pagan and druidic tribes, it was a time for wedding, a time for elders decisions and council too.

The sad side of it is that children were sacrificed to appease the gods but it was considered a very high honour to have a child chosen from your family, this day and age I am not sure if I would be too happy if my children had been chosen.
Halloween Different Now...
[info]frandor55 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:17 pm (UTC)
Growing up in the States in the sixties, I remember there were 4-5 basic costumes: The Ghost( white sheet w/ eye-hole cut out)...the Hobo, The Pirate, the American Indian, the Witch, and a few more I forget.

There were no bloody, grotesque ghoul type of characters. I remember the bonfires every five or six blocks, the hot spiced apple cider, roasting marshmellows in the fire.

It was a fun time for all.
why brits hostile to Halloween
[info]dpapaccio5 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:19 pm (UTC)
I understand why british people are so hostile to Halloween and Americans enjoy it so much more. The banal anti-American boycotts aside, Halloween in the UK is just another excuse for an already out of control violent youth to spread mayhem across a lawless land. The UK is the most violent nation in the western world http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html . Halloween only makes it worse. American children love their little tricks and pranks too of course, but they are not nearly as violent and mean spirited as in the UK. In the US, enormous crowds of people can actually have a good time (drinking included!) without it erupting into violent riots.
Re: why brits hostile to Halloween
[info]philo07 wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:28 pm (UTC)
dpapaccio: Nonsense. There are many areas in the United States where it's just as violent, or more so. It's not exactly like our issues with violence and gangs are solved either. School shootings, drive-bys, gang violence, racism, etc all had their place in our society. Let's not cast the stone before ordering our own house.
Re: why brits hostile to Halloween - [info]ourmaninferney - Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 04:24 pm (UTC) Expand
lack of understanding!
[info]nvcj wrote:
Saturday, 31 October 2009 at 03:37 pm (UTC)
Like a_abrahms, I too am Canadian and always celebrated Halloween as a child. We didn't spend loads on costumes. Either mum made them, or we dressed in dad's old work clothes, or baseball kit!! It was always a fun night that we spent walking around with our parents, our neighbours and our friends. NEVER did I see or was in anyway aware of "satanic rituals or worshiping". There were a few harmless pranks, but let's be honest, the kids who are going to cause mischief will cause it, halloween or not!
Now, I live in England, and although my husband never celebrated hallwoeen as a child, we have introduced it to our two boys.
When trick-or-treating the rule is simple--"only go to houses which are decorated for halloween" No jack-o-lantern = no knocking on their door!
I think much of Englands dislike for this holiday is simply that you don't understand it!!
And yes, I am christian!
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