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Moore accused of telling tales over tequilas with Chavez

Left-wingers fall out over 'fabricated' encounter in Venice

By Guy Adams

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with US film-maker Michael Moore at the Venice Film Festival

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with US film-maker Michael Moore at the Venice Film Festival

He's crossed swords, over the years, with all the usual right-wing suspects, from car-makers to gun owners to Wall Street executives, health companies, and George W Bush. Now Michael Moore has picked a fight with a hero of the international left.

The documentary-maker has caused outrage among Hugo Chavez's supporters by using a late-night chat show to tell a humorous anecdote about meeting Venezuela's socialist President in a luxury hotel suite during the recent Venice Film Festival.

His two-minute yarn, told to ABC host Jimmy Kimmel earlier this month, seemed harmless enough. Moore alleged that he and his wife had been woken at 2am by a racket coming from Mr Chavez's room and ventured upstairs to ask him to quieten down.

"A bottle and a half of tequila later," Moore claimed, he had helped the President to write the speech he recently delivered to the UN. "At the very least, the guy owes me a year's worth of free gasoline!" he joked.

But there was a problem with the story. A big one. The meeting that Moore so confidently described never happened. And tequila certainly wasn't consumed: Mr Chavez is teetotal.

The duo did meet in Venice, but only in the daytime. Moore, in town to launch his new film, Capitalism, sat with Mr Chavez, who was there to promote Oliver Stone's documentary South of the Border, for three hours. The US press were excluded from the meeting.

Supporters of Mr Chavez now suspect that Moore fabricated his anecdote to gloss over the chummy nature of that encounter. They have taken to the airwaves in a Monty Python-style PR offensive, to accuse Moore of betraying a supposed comrade.

"Michael Moore is a most unfortunate coward," declared blogger Eva Golinger. She dubbed him "the worst of yellow journalists, a liar and storyteller on the big screen", and said his yarn was "offensive and insulting" and a clear sign of his "hypocrisy and lack of ethics". Franz JT Lee, a Marxist academic and blogger, claimed that the film-maker's comments were "part of the United States' 'war of ideas'" against Venezuela, and said similar "propaganda" led to the rise of the Nazis in 1930s Germany.

They didn't just spark outrage on the left, though. Critics of Mr Chavez have called the level of invective against Moore – some of which was aired on Venezuelan state television – disproportionate. They believe his anecdote was intended to be a harmless, tongue-in-cheek joke. The socialist movement failed to grasp the nuances of his intended irony, they claim, because they lack a sense of humour.

Quite what the affair says about the integrity of Moore and his documentaries remains to be seen. The film-maker has declined to comment or apologise for misleading TV viewers, save for a brief message posted on his Twitter feed on Monday: "For the record, the President of Venezuela doesn't drink."

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Venezuela has it exactly right
[info]angrypancho wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 05:43 am (UTC)
Of course it was a "...harmless, tongue-in-cheek joke". What else could it be? Do you really think drinking a bottle and a half of tequila qualifies as a put down? Or that getting help from a native speaker would be embarrassing? Some people are WAY too sensitive.
FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]frase33 wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 08:29 am (UTC)
Michael moore is a FAKE...a big fat FAKE of a man.
Please see 9/11 Rise of the Police State by Alex Jones, free on You Tube, where Moore is exposed for what he is.....
His film Farenheit 9/11 was a joke, and barely exposed the hundreds of other anomalies about that day....He is a disgrace. When questio ned why he didn't mention the other facts about 9/11 he is on camera sayig it was "unamerican"....
His new film Capitalism is part of the agenda to turn the US into a scoialist/facist state.....
After he has made his millions of course......
Go watch 9/11 Rise of the Police state to see this fraud of a man EXPOSED for what and who it is....
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]lkdamo wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 11:10 am (UTC)
Alex Jones is a lunatic and I have seen the nonsense you mention.
Your ability to spot a fake seems tainted by your inability to spot a lunatic.
What that says about you is another story.
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]scousekraut wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 11:46 am (UTC)
I would say that Alex Jones and Michael Moore are in fact both working for the same side and that it is all a Hollywood smokescreen. Jones generates the fear and diversion and Moore misinformation and diversion.
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]boeticia wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 01:26 pm (UTC)
About Moore, correction: Information by diversion!
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]nightside242 wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC)
Alex Jones is an absolute raving lunatic of the highest and purest order.
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]boeticia wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 01:24 pm (UTC)
Don't take things too seriously. Remember what one said at the end of the film "Some Like It Hot!?
.....Nobody's perfect!!!!
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]dolgoth wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 02:35 pm (UTC)


"agenda to turn the US into a scoialist/facist state....."

You do realize fascism and socialism are on opposite sides of the scale? Ones far right the other is far left.... And both are very far.....
Re: FAKE-Controlled opposition
[info]drewridama wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 03:42 pm (UTC)
And in fact, the US is already a quasi-fascist state...
Moore, the Imp
[info]boeticia wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 01:22 pm (UTC)
By now, friends and foes of Moore should know his impish side. That's what makes him so droll...he's
a compulsive jester, a practical joker with a wit of the farcical kind. And one shouldn't forget - that he's a filmmaker llike any other who would make use of a good material for his talks or scripts.
Mr. Chavez was most likely bending over with mirth with Moore's banter, or does one think El Presidente has no sense of humour?
As Moore himself said via his Twitter feed: For the record, the President of Venezuela doesn't drink.
Well, could one imagine Moore as well drinking tequila?...at most, beer!!!
Sounds like a contrived Michael Moore put down
[info]ascot2 wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 03:14 pm (UTC)
I have seen Moore's new movie and can recommend it.

The issues raised in the above article (and some of the accompanying comments) seem to be more to do with changing the topic, to avoid the argument, made by Moore, which is that our current form of capitalism is destroying our civil society.

Thank goodness there are still people around who have the courage, and resources, to openly criticize our current establishment.
[info]vladtheimpala wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 03:36 pm (UTC)
I read / viewed all the stuff related to this episode. Michael Moore is SO obviously joking. And in response to the subsequent blog on this article, the untruth Guy Adams told is not in jest - it's just a mistake. Guy Adams needs to get a sense of humour. And get off his high horse.
it show's his message is starting to work
[info]drewridama wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 03:48 pm (UTC)
If the rampant US media are beating this up into a story, then clearly he's hit a nerve.
US media is controlled by special interest groups and this is how they work. They find some nutters, esp online, and endlessly report what they're saying, even better that it's some nasty commie Marxists this time.
It's a shame The [supposedly] Independent feels the need to wade into these manipulated waters...
Groan...
[info]drewridama wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 04:18 pm (UTC)
So I just watched the 'offending' interview with Kimmel, and the piece Adams initially wrote, where he goes on and on about Moore saying that Chavez was drinking.
But in fact, Moore doesn't even say that Chavez drank, he says [after Chavez greets him at the door], and I quote, 'a bottle and a half of Tequila later'. He doesn't say anything about who was drinking what...
Why is this even a story?
Too much drink
[info]lasvegasrich wrote:
Wednesday, 28 October 2009 at 05:33 pm (UTC)
I like Michael Moore , he makes movies that expose injustices by the establishment, and tries to help average people. Anyone listening should have gotten a clue when he talked about drinking a bottle and a half of tequila. That much booze would leave most of us incoherent.

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