Afghanistan: Time to leave
Patrick Cockburn, our award-winning reporter who has covered the region for more than 30 years, explains why it is best for the world, and Afghanistan, if our troops are brought home
Britain should start withdrawing, not reinforcing, its troops in Afghanistan. Sending extra troops is unnecessary and will prove counter-effective. The additional number of British troops is small, but the US is poised to send tens of thousands more soldiers to the country. The nature of the conflict is changing. What should be a war in which the Afghan government fights the Taliban has become one which is being fought primarily by the American and British armies. To more and more Afghans, this looks like imperial occupation.
With regard to disputes in Washington and London about sending more troops, it is seldom mentioned that Afghans are against the deployment. Contrary to Western plans, just 18 per cent of Afghans want more US and Nato/Isaf forces in Afghanistan, according to an opinion poll carried out earlier this year by the BBC, ABC News and ARD of Germany. A much greater number of Afghans – 44 per cent – want a decrease in foreign forces.
It is hardly surprising, therefore, that the Taliban have been able to win some support. The cruelty of their rule before 2001 is becoming a distant memory and they are successfully portraying themselves as the defender of the country against foreign occupation. Matthew P Hoh, the senior American civilian representative in Zabul Province east of Kandahar, resigned last week convinced that the US military should not be in Afghanistan. As a former US marine officer who served in Iraq, he says in his resignation letter that the US has joined in on one side in a 35-year-old civil war between the traditional Pashtun community and its enemies. "The US military presence in Afghanistan greatly contributes to the legitimacy and strategic message of the Pashtun insurgency," he says. "Our backing of the Afghan government in its current form continues to distance the government from the people."
What is true for the Americans in Zabul is true for the British in Helmand. It may seem to military commanders on the ground that, with more troops, they could hold more ground and send out more patrols. Throughout history, generals have believed they are a few thousand troops short of victory. But Afghans, who have long experience of war, think more foreign troops means greater violence, more dead and wounded Afghans. Support for the Taliban is highest in those areas where there have been US or Nato shelling or air strikes inflicting civilian casualties. In other words, the Taliban's best recruiting sergeants are the American and British armies.
The future good of Afghanistan is not the first reason why Britain has an army of 9,000 troops there, according to Gordon Brown. He said on Friday that they are there to protect people walking the streets of Britain: "Our children will learn of the heroism of today's men and women fighting in Afghanistan protecting our nation and the world from the threat of global terrorism." We are fighting there, he adds, so we are safe in our homes and guarded against the atrocities carried out by al-Qa'ida not only in London, but across the world.
The problem with this argument is that al-Qa'ida is based in Pakistan not Afghanistan. There is no particular reason why its leaders should return to Afghanistan since they have a measure of support in the Pakistani intelligence services and among fundamentalist jihadi organisations. If Britain has sent 9,000 troops abroad to fight al-Qa'ida, then they are in the wrong country. Mr Brown slyly tries to evade this point by claiming that "three-quarters of terrorists' plots originate in the Pakistan-Afghan border regions". His sudden geographic imprecision avoids having to admit that they originate in Pakistan and not in Afghanistan. The US military says there only 100 al-Qa'ida militants in the whole of Afghanistan.
In reality, the presence of a large British military force in Afghanistan is making Britain a more dangerous not safer place to live in. Interrogation of would-be suicide bombers captured before they could blow themselves up reveals that their prime motive since 9/11 has been opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In portraying Britain as being at war with al-Qa'ida, Mr Brown, like President Bush and Tony Blair, has walked into the trap laid by al-Qa'ida at the time of 9/11. Its aim was not only to show the US was vulnerable to armed attack, but to provoke retaliation against Muslim countries. Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qa'ida's chief strategist, stated soon after 9/11 that the purpose of the provocation was to tempt the US into reprisals and open the way for "clear-cut jihad against the infidels".
In Afghanistan and Iraq, the US and Britain have faced similar dilemmas. These wars were started by President Bush, with Tony Blair trotting along behind, in the expectation that they would be short and cheap. The initial military assaults were wholly successful, but the American and British armies were then caught up in prolonged, bruising, guerrilla wars. By then, too much prestige was at stake and too much blood had been spilt for a withdrawal. The puniness of the armed insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan, in each case probably a few tens of thousands of fighters, makes the humiliation of retreat all the greater.
The main reason for Britain's military commitment in Afghanistan was to maintain its position as America's principal ally in the world. As recently as 2006, this seemed a sensible strategy, but any engagement in Afghanistan, as a brief look at any history of the region will show, is always going to be dangerous. The Taliban had not really been defeated on the battlefield in 2001: its militants had gone back to their villages or taken refuge over the border in Pakistan. It took time for the Pakistan government, on which they were highly reliant, to decide that it was safe to unleash them once more because the US was too bogged down in Iraq to do much about it.
By this time also, the government of President Hamid Karzai, below left, had gone far to discredit itself. It is less of an administration than a racket. Its officials probably make more money out of opium and heroin than the Taliban. Some 12 million Afghans, 42 per cent of the population, live below the poverty line, trying to survive on 45 cents (just over 25p) a day. They are malnourished or starving, and feel little loyalty to a government in which ministers live in their "poppy palaces", built with the profits of the drugs trade, and foreign aid consultants earn $250,000 a year.
"Sadly, the government of Afghanistan has become a byword for corruption," said Mr Brown. "And I am not prepared to put the lives of British men and women in harm's way for a government that does not stand up against corruption." Taken at face value, this means Britain will withdraw its troops since it is a certainty in Afghanistan that a government so viscerally crooked is not going to reform. "Cronies and warlords should have no place in the future of Afghanistan," continued the Prime Minister, but Mr Karzai's election victory was attained by allying himself with the most blood-stained warlords in the country. Presumably, Mr Brown's pledge is no more than rhetoric.
The US and Britain have tumbled into a second war in Afghanistan that they weren't expecting. Justifying their own misjudgements, American and British leaders claim that Afghanistan is a war that has to be fought because it is the epicentre of the war against international terrorism. These threats are all grossly exaggerated. The Afghan Taliban comes from the Pashtun community, which is 42 per cent of the population. The majority of Afghans will always oppose them. Of course, present Afghan or Pakistani leaders have every interest in painting themselves to their foreign backers as the one alternative to the Taliban.
"The Pashtun insurgency," says Mr Hoh, "is fed by what is perceived by the Pashtun people as a continued and sustained assault, going back centuries, on Pashtun land, culture, traditions and religion by internal an external enemies." Britain should not be part of that assault that will not succeed in crushing a regional Pashtun rebellion on behalf a non-Pashtun state. Once this is accepted, then the need for a large combat force in southern Afghanistan disappears. What ultimately happens in Afghanistan should be left to the Afghans.
Developments yesterday
* Nato airstrike kills seven Afghan soldiers and police.
* Two-thirds of Britons polled say Afghanistan is a "lost cause".
* UK troops should be prepared to die in "fight against fundamentalism", says army chaplain.
* Obama's national security adviser: "We will not solve the problem with troops alone".
* UK army commander says troops fighting and dying for stability in "hotbed of terror". Cause is "worth the sacrifice".
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in 90ths Taliban were trustful,Taliban are the one who show the world including Brown that Karzi is corrupted,thought Brown knows but he does not us to know to keep his lies.so he needs to look for new lie and so on......!
You invaded Afghanistan because you thought you were so superior and could overrun this 'medievalist' Taliban and install your puppet regime. The Taliban asked for evidence that Osama was behind 9/11 and even reportedly offered to have him then tried in another country. But your Bush had some other ideas.
Now after the freedom fighters (also called terrorists sometimes) made life very hard for you, you are all screaming "leave now!"
It is very imperative to know that your invasion was never at any time intended to benefit the Afghan people but was done solely for your own economic, security and political interests. And the fact remains you will only withdraw when the Taliban make life unbearable for you as they are doing now. Time is always on the Taliban side. The Taliban being Afghans will not disappear into thin air. They are there to stay. Ultimately, you will have to withdraw, with hundreds of your soldiers killed and thousands and thousands of Afghans killed. And the Taliban will be back. Maybe you will make some deal with them and all of a sudden, we will have the indie, Guardian, daily mail et al telling us how wonderful the Taliban are for brining security, eradicating corruption blah blah.
Written by the Earl of Auckland on 1st October 1838, setting out the necessary reasons for British intervention in Afghanistan. In it he laid out his reasons for war in a document filled with distortions and outright fabrications designed to cement support for the war. (SOUND FAMILIAR)
It is worth highlighting Auckland’s claim that a Persian siege of Herat was the equivalent of a Russian takeover of Afghanistan, and that in turn made necessary a British invasion. Auckland’s analysis turned a distant and manageable problem into an imminent and existential threat. Such twisted reasoning turned a professed desire to defend Afghanistan into a determination to conquer it.
In 1839 the British invaded Afghanistan with the intention of incorporating it into the British empire. The immediate provocation for the war — replacing a supposedly pro-Persian ruler with a British puppet — was dubious and based on sexed-up evidence. Lord Auckland often referred to Herat — the gateway to Afghanistan, on the border with Iran — as “the western frontier of India”. The welfare of our possessions in the east,” said Auckland, “requires that we should have on our western frontier an ally who is interested in resisting aggression and establishing tranquillity, in the place of chiefs ranging themselves in subservience to a hostile power and seeking to promote schemes of conquest.”
HOW HISTORY TENDS TO REPEAT
I hope this bit doesn’t
On 1 January 1842 an agreement was reached that provided for the safe exodus of the British garrison and its dependants from Afghanistan. Five days later, the retreat began. The evacuees were harassed down the 30 miles (48 km) of treacherous gorges and passes lying along the Kabul River. The force had been reduced to fewer than forty men by a retreat from Kabul that had become, towards the end, a running battle through two feet of snow. Only a dozen of the men had working muskets, the officers their pistols and a few unbroken swords. The only Briton known to have escaped was Dr. William Brydon, though a few others were captured.
The so called Taliban were in the US in the 90s trying sell a gas pipeline to a US Company called Unicol. When they decided to go with the Argentinean company Bridas Corp it hit the fan and the US through there dummy out the pram. A gas pipeline that was reported to be worth 12 trillion US dollar to the US economy.
The reason given to a dumbdown US public was that they wouldn’t hand Bin Laden over. That was a lie. The Taliban said that if the US could provide evidence he was behind 911 they would hand him over. The US had not intention of giving evidence (if they had any at all) because there intention was to invade anyway. Most of the Highjackers were Saudi's and even some of those are still alive as Pilots in tha far east. Known fact but I digress.
Does no one remember the Gulf War in the 90s when our boys were complaining that they didn’t join the army to protect oil fields.
Ohh an afterthought another excuse often given is about the poppy fields. The Taliban had almost eradicated it from Afghanistan in 2000 before The UK and the US waded on in.
WE CONTANTLY AS A NATION THROW STONES WHILST LIVING IN A GLASS HOUSE. WAKE PEOPLE AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF WE SPREAD A LITTLE LOVE INSTEAD OF HATE IT MIGHT,,,, JUST MIGHT STOP BITTING US ON THE BACKSIDE
Unfortunately one result of this is that the US empire will drag Britain into more of these adventures which are either resource based or strategic moves on the chess board against some enemy or other.
Historically the USA has never been able to function without an enemy at the gate and the mysterious Al Quada and its leader Bin Laden fit the bill perfectly permitting a few decades of crusading and another line of films for Hollywood.
We seem to fall for it all the time and the dis-information that abounds in our media is skillfully used to headline us into situations that are well planned in advance. The truth is hardly ever a consideration and the public used to 2 minute sound bite news sadly believes most of it.
As for 911 the supposed cause for all this, it was convienient timing to say the least, got the USA control over the Iraqi oilfields and did its bit to keep the American consumer in 'gas' for their cars and profits for 'big oil' in Houston. Was it all planned to achieve just that? we will probably never know but it seems increasingly unlikely that a few totally inept hijackers planned and executed such an event and even more unlikely that 3 towers collapsed in their own footprints in less than 10 seconds from 2 aircraft impacts which caused only local fires.
I guess that's the point - we are asked to believe some pretty odd things in our media and by our 'leaders' the fact most people do and do not riot or demand answers just gives them licence to think just how far they can go and that is the scary bit.
The Taliban are supposedly in Pakistan now, but if NATO moves out of Afghanistan, they will return to Kabul, etc.
Are we going to see another 9/11?
It's an honest question. I'm not trying to make a point.
9/11 was the biggest scam in history. Buildings containing asbestos would have been horrendously expensive for the owner to rehabilitate: far cheaper and easier to set demolition charges under them, take out additional insurance, send the air force away to do exercises based on hi-kackings (so everyone was really confused) and then fly some planes into the buidlings. It was one of the most brillaintly conceived and executed false flag operation in history and with teh assistnace of teh corporate media, sucked in millions. The only problem on the day was Bush didn't act his part particularly well and when told America was under attack he smiled and carried on reading the 'goat story'. He was supposed to have been surprised and worried.
However, things were soon back on track when there was widespread demand for a public enquiry. Bush managed to stall that for months while crucial evidence was shipped out the country and melted down, videos of the events confiscated etc. When the 9/11 Commisiion was finally set up, one of the gang headed it and produced a report giving the required version of events, refusing to address numerous contrdictions and blaring inconsistencies.
One piece of evidence could not be fiddled with however. The buildings fell at free-fall speed, only possible if Themite cherges had been pl;aced strategically throughout the buildings to cut through teh steel, pariculalry in the basement, prior to the event.
Notice how hte footage was played over and over agoan, just like the adverts that nurolinguisticaly programme people into buy stuff they don't need. All very sophisticaed mind control stuff that set teh scene for illegal and immoral invasions for teh control of resources.
Let's hope that Osama's biggest ally Obama will read Cockburn and put an end to his imperial afpak folly that is simply handing over both stans to the Taliban on a silver platter.
Smug onanistic tosser.
to enhance our vested interests ? In Afghanistan and Pakistan the Pashtuns see this provocation launched by two
elements the MQM in Pakistan and Northern Alliance in Afghanistan to eliminate them.
they follow USA write or wrong.
This week two leaders recognized that they were looking at wrong side,ABBASS AND BROWN.
WE have seen the lies on Iraq about 45 minute to attack london by Saddan,Satan is working hard to fool us;creating reasons to stay in Iraq/Afghanistan.
while the world is facing crisis financially,social and climate; some one is looking for problems outside!!!
when the Chief "Pirate "is waiting the "smaller pirates" who are outside looting others,collecting everything and then enslaving them is his kingdom..!
Britian is selling their Gold and instualtion of the country very cheap and control the kingdom at minimal price.
look and see how color of Britain fading??
To help get British troops out of Afghanstan, sign the following petition:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/STWCAf
Perhaps the hardest concept for some people in the west to grasp is that is not us who are barbaric, murderous and immoral. It is not us who commit terrible acts of slaughter against defenceless women, children and men. We do not place bombs in market places or kill our own children for the preservation of our “honour”. Some of the victims in Afghanistan are civilians it is true, as their fighters hide behind civilians or blow them up with suicide bombers. The establishment and the mainstream media truthfully imply that without our presence, civilisation will melt away and barbarity will grow like a cancer, as it did, and has done, in many Islamic countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan and Somalia. Any moral authority vanished a long time ago in these countries, where their leader’s mendaciousness, avarice, cruelty and corruption is too vile to bear.
Our duty now is to face, and to act upon, this shaming truth: that dying for one's country is not the same thing as dying because of one's government.
Amb. Murray reports that the people delivered by CIA flights to Uzbekistan’s torture prisons “were told to confess to membership in Al Qaeda. They were told to confess they’d been in training camps in Afghanistan. They were told to confess they had met Osama bin Laden in person. And the CIA intelligence constantly echoed these themes.”
“I was absolutely stunned,” says the British ambassador, who thought that he served a moral country that, along with its American ally, had moral integrity. The great Anglo-American bastion of democracy and human rights, the homes of the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights, the great moral democracies that defeated Nazism and stood up to Stalin’s gulags, were prepared to commit any crime in order to maximize profits.
Amb. Murray learned too much and was fired when he vomited it all up. He saw the documents that proved that the motivation for US and UK military aggression in Afghanistan had to do with the natural gas deposits in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. The Americans wanted a pipeline that bypassed Russia and Iran and went through Afghanistan. To insure this, an invasion was necessary. The idiot American public could be told that the invasion was necessary because of 9/11 and to save them from “terrorism,” and the utter fools would believe the lie.
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts1106
There is a monumental cover up in the mainstream press who all know...
This issue is not going away...
Anyone in any doubt Watch this....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d
Find out the truth, or keep believing in the big bad boogeyman hiding in his cave!
Its absurd.....
Pulling out at this stage would be a disaster but what do you expect from the media who always like to argue the opposite to what Governments say.