Exclusive
Exclusive: Army is fighting British jihadists in Afghanistan
Top Army officers reveal surge in attacks by radicalised Britons
British soldiers are engaged in "a surreal mini civil war" with growing numbers of home-grown jihadists who have travelled to Afghanistan to support the Taliban, senior Army officers have told The Independent.
Interceptions of Taliban communications have shown that British jihadists – some "speaking with West Midlands accents" – are active in Helmand and other parts of southern Afghanistan, according to briefing papers prepared by an official security agency.
The document states that the numbers of young British Muslims, "seemingly committed jihadists", travelling abroad to commit extremist violence has been rising, with Pakistan and Somalia the most frequent destinations.
MI5 has estimated that up to 4,000 British Muslims had travelled to Pakistan and, before the fall of the Taliban, to Afghanistan for military training. The main concern until now has been about the parts some of them had played in terrorist plots in the UK. Now there are signs that they are mounting missions against British and Western targets abroad. "We are now involved in a kind of surreal mini-British civil war a few thousand miles away," said one Army officer.
Somalia is also becoming a destination for British Muslims of Somali extraction who have started fighting alongside al-Qa'ida-backed Islamist forces. A 21-year-old Briton of Somali extraction, who had been brought up in Ealing, west London, recently blew himself up in the town of Baidoa, killing 20 people. The head of MI5, Jonathan Evans, has raised the worrying issue of British citizens being indoctrinated in Somalia, and Michael Hayden, the outgoing head of the CIA, warned that the conflict in the Horn of Africa had "catalysed" expatriate Somalis in the West.
But it is in Afghanistan that British forces are now directly facing fellow Britons on the other side. RAF Nimrod aircraft flying over Afghanistan at up to 40,000ft have been picking up Taliban electronic "chatter" in which voices can be heard in West Midlands and Yorkshire accents. Worryingly for the military, this has increased in the past few months, with communications picked up by both ground and air surveillance, showing the presence of more British voices in the Taliban front line.
The men involved are said to try to hide their British connections but sometimes "fall back" into speaking English. One senior military source said: "We have been hearing a lot more Punjabi, Urdu and Kashmiri Urdu rather than just Pashtu, so there appears to be more men from other parts of Pakistan fighting with the Taliban than just the Pashtuns who have tribal allegiances with the Afghan Pashtuns. It is this second group, the Urdu, Punjabi speakers etc, who fall back into English in, for example, Brummie accents. You get the impression that they have been told not to talk in English but sometimes simply can't help it."
Some of the British Muslims had originally trained in Pakistan to commit attacks in Kashmir. But security sources say the rising threat of Indian retribution, especially after the Mumbai attacks, had led to the Pakistani government curbing the activities of the Kashmiri separatist groups, so the fighters are being switched to Afghanistan. The numbers involved in Afghanistan, the intelligence document shows, are relatively few, dozens rather than hundreds, but the pattern of involvement is described as a cause for concern.
Last week, during a visit to Helmand, the Foreign Secretary, David Milliband, was shown Taliban explosive devices containing British-made electronic components. An explosives officer said the devices had either been sent from Britain, or brought over to the country. They ranged from remote-control units used to fly model airplanes to advanced components which could detonates bombs at a range of more than a mile.
Evidence of British Muslims fighting inside Afghanistan and training in insurgent camps in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas has been provided to the UK authorities by the Americans. The US has significantly stepped up its surveillance inside Pakistan as part of a more aggressive policy including cross-border raids by unmanned Predator aircraft.
The Americans are said to have raised the issue of the Pakistan connection, complaining that the UK is not doing enough to curb radical Muslims. The US pointed out that this threatens their own security because UK passport holders can get into the US under the visa waiver programme. The Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, the chairman of the Commons' sub-committee on anti-terrorism, which has been examining the activities of British Muslim extremists, said: "We know the problem we have with UK-based jihadists. We also know that a number of them have been arrested trying to leave the country. With the UK intelligence services at full stretch, it is not surprising some of these jihadists had ended up in Afghanistan."
Brigadier Ed Butler, the former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, said British Muslims were fighting his forces. "There are British passport holders who live in the UK who are being found in places such as Kandahar," he said. "There is a link between Kandahar and urban conurbations in the UK. This is something the military understands but the British public does not."
Robert Emerson, a security analyst who has worked in South Asia, said: "There is ample evidence that British Muslims had trained in camps in Pakistan. What is emerging now is a picture of them being more active in Afghanistan, either providing support and logistics or in active service. The numbers are not particularly large, but it is worrying."
Jonathan Evans, of MI5, said the number of extremists wanting to travel to Iraq had "tailed off significantly" as Britain begins the drawdown of its troops in the country. But there was "traffic" into Pakistan and Afghanistan. "What happens in Afghanistan is extremely important because what happens there has a direct impact on domestic security in the UK," he said. "Pre-2001, they were able to establish terrorist facilities and to draw hardened extremists and vulnerable recruits to indoctrinate and teach techniques. If the Taliban is able to establish control over significant areas, there is a real danger that such facilities will be re-established."
Last week, as Barack Obama ordered 17,000 extra US troops into Afghanistan, a confidential Nato report revealed that more than 30 per cent of the population believed the government of President Hamid Karzai had lost control of the areas in which they live and much of that has slipped back into Taliban control.
View all comments that have been posted about this article.
Offensive or abusive comments will be removed and your IP logged and may be used to prevent further submission. In submitting a comment to the site, you agree to be bound by the Independent Minds Terms of Service.
- Print Article
- Email Article
-
Click here for copyright permissions
Copyright 2009 Independent News and Media Limited



Comments
Its funny you didn't pick up on that obvious one, Kim.
Well, if it was true about the false passport, then he must be a "terrorist" now mustn't he.
My God how much compulsory reading would it take you before you snapped out of it?!!!!!! :)
They might not have the big guns or the cluster bombs, but right is on their side and so is time.
Good luck lads and safe home!
Both countries should stop letting muslims
into our countires. and both should start
deporting all muslims currently in our
countries
BY THE SAME TOKEN,
DEPORTING ALL YOUR JEWS TO ISRAEL
WOULD BE SEEN A FRIENDLY ACT BY MUSLIM SHOPKEEPERS EVERYWARE
In fact what is needed is people to come from all over the world to kick out the invaders.
Then they have been abusing South Asians in the UK for decades, and have never made them feel part of the nation, unlike the USA where everyone has a stake in the nation, and is a truer melting pot, the arrogant brits have mistreated and misused the south asians and really have only themselves to blame for this phenomenon.
Who else can you blame, when your own citizens are fighting against you. Stop blaming everything and everyone but yourselves.
I was born in the UK, and left it when I was 3 months old, grew up in the US and am of South Asian origin, and love the US and would die for my country. I know many UK brit Muslims who feel the Brits treat them like sh1t.
And how would the commenters bring peace to Afghanistan? Would they allow the ISI to control the politics as they seek to do in Kashmir?
http://geocities.com/cronyblatcher
And our big chance too - to be rid of you.
Once in Afghanistan, you will be right up against a professional trained army. They cant call in air strikes in Bradford, but they can in Afghanistan.... Also, we can listen in and find out who you are - when you check in for the return flight, you might find you cant get back into Britain.
Terrorists are not wanted in Britain, by any sections of the community . Terrorists kid themselves, some sections of the community support them - but take my word for it, even those sections, would rather be rid of the terrorists, and will be glad when they're gone.
One is that the British army is waging an immoral war of occupation in Afghanistan.
The second is that Britain has allowed in a people who loathe Britain and all it stands for.
Whether British born Muslims are involved to the extent claimed is anyone's guess. As we have found out over recent years, governments and intellegence services will tell any lies to justify their march to war. You only have to look at the Iraq debacle to understand that. No wonder Jack Straw vetoed the release of the Iraq War Cabinet minutes. It might have let the cat out of the bag.
We are losing the war in Afghanistan. We have more important battles on the home front. Let's try building bridges to alienated communities within our midst. War never solves anything.
The British government has been a poodle of big oil since the children's milk snatcher signed up. There is also the additional small matter of the profit involved in producing the "drugs at our school gates" (I quote Wonderone) delivered there mostly by another of his unsavoury allies in the Balkans
- Stealing Iraqi oil - a lie
- Making permanent bases - a lie
- Installing a puppet govt - a lie
The truth is that the USA emancipated 27 million Iraqis, period. They are for better or worse free and sovereign. To the onsternation of sso many it looks like they will be very successful as well. They have after got VAST amounts of oil to produce, if they choose to. Upwards of three times there stated reserves I think, bigger than Saudi (at their official - i.e. lie - reserves anyway).
Imagine how many jihadis would be created if that was the narrative, "The USA emancipated you but might have been able to do it better, we cant really tell though as no one else has ever done similar, nor would it seems so selfish are they!" instead of the quasi racist lies about the imperial USA (do they have a death star as well? Oooohhhh.) occupying and stealing from Iraqis as their new masters.
The mother of the 18 year old recently convicted of terrorist activities in the UK said that she thought that her son had been radicalised by the UK media
She is of course right.
Its been a truly sickening display from the street of shame. It disgusts me and I hope you can tell how enraged I still am at this self indulgent teenage display to sell papers opn the blood of our soldiers and innocent Iraqis and Afghans
And now, as no one wants to talk about Iraq anymore (because it is successful and thus both embarasses and shames you for it is free in spite of you and despite you isnt it) your hate is turned on Afghans or the old beloved favourite, the Palestinians. They can bleed for you to prove your infantile conspiracy theories now instead of Iraqis! The papers must sell!! Today programme must have more listeners (its a "flagship" (sic))
The same lies as above are being told today by the same people with the same mental dysfunction about new victims. The need to be victims directly by proxy and accuse others who might shame you otherwise by being better seems to be most (personally empty/unhappy?) peoples first and perhaps only "real" need. It absolves them, it avoids addressing the real responsibilities that men have to thgeir fellow men in obscene real politic and thats home base. Pathetic. Thank god for America and some decency in the world, there seems to be so litlle in Europe, they even do the same to each other as we see in the beggar thy neighbour protectionism that Euros wallow in at the first excuse.
Maybe Putin should give western Europe a 50 year lesson in freedom and enbd the endemic deflation in its value in Eurp? Putin needs the resource grab and frankly, who would lift a finger to defend a Europeans liberty? They would not for anyone else, ever, so f em I say.
Making permanent bases is a fact and only a desanitised zombiw would deny it. Washington has long touted the "Korea model" in Iraq. Calls are made for maintaining three or four major bases in the country and would include the base at Al Asad in Anbar Province, Balad Air Base about 50 miles north of Baghdad, and Tallil Air Base in the south.
Saddam was a puppet for the west once. Until he no longer bowed to their dictates, that's when he was removed under a the lie of WMD! you dimwit.
1. British forces would not be out on a limb as the army of a poodle of big oil, fighting vigorous and effective homeland defenders;
2. young men would be educated, settled and optimistic about their future, and would not prefer to fight British forces elsewhere.
Odd that nobody has notiiced / commented, that while British troops are getting excellent field training in the art of putting down an insurgency at home, some of their predictable opponents at home are also in training, in the same field, for what is to come.
And every single british person knows this is true.
They certainly keep a lot of people in jobs. Troops from the UK are being killed; this can't be right.