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Car attack on Dutch royal family leaves five dead

Queen Beatrix consoles a speechless nation after 'terrible tragedy'

By John Lichfield

A car drives into the crowd waiting to see the royal family in Apeldoorn

AFP

A car drives into the crowd waiting to see the royal family in Apeldoorn

Five people were killed in Holland after a speeding car crashed through barriers and ploughed into spectators attending a royal parade, in a terrifying attack believed to be targeted at the Dutch royal family.

A black Suzuki Swift, driven by a 38-year-old man, charged at high speed through police barriers and crowds of spectators, missed the royal open-top bus by just metres and crashed into the foot of a memorial column in Apeldoorn, a small town 90km south-east of Amsterdam.

Television footage showed the car, with its roof and bonnet already crumpled from smashing through the crowd, racing past the royal bus in bright sunshine and slamming into the column. Other film showed bodies being hurled into the air and members of the royal family hiding their faces in shock and dismay.

"I think that it has become clear that this happened with premeditation," said the Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende.

The driver – a shaven-haired Dutch man with no police record or known political affiliations – was badly hurt in the final crash but he survived. Pictures showed him apparently unconscious in the driver's seat with his face covered in blood.

"The man said that his action was aimed at the royal family," said prosecutor Ludo Goossens. "So far we have no indication that there is any link to terror (activities)."

The driver was "formally suspected of... an attack on members of the royal house and manslaughter or murder", the prosecutor added, and could face life in prison.

The Dutch media quoted neighbours as saying the man had been recently fired from his job and evicted from his home. Witnesses said that his car had been stopped and turned back earlier in the day by police. It remained unclear last night how the driver was able to breach security and charge through barriers, police lines and the crowds and almost reach the royal parade itself.

The fact that the attack happened in a small town on Queen's Day – the annual celebration of Queen Beatrix's birthday and of Dutchness itself – heightened the sense of shock and disbelief in the Netherlands. All other celebrations were immediately cancelled. Queen Beatrix, 71, made a national address in which, visibly upset, she said: "What began as a great day has ended in a terrible tragedy that has shocked us all deeply."

A Dutch journalist, Peter von de Vorst, said: "It was a really nice day. Then you hear a bang. Everyone looks up and you see people indeed flying through the air. [You think] this must be a joke or a strange prank. Then suddenly panic, and you realise that something really terrible has happened."

The Netherlands' reputation for tolerance and open-mindedness has been shaken since the assassination in 2002 of the populist politician, Pym Fortuyn. Arguments over immigration and the alleged threat to Dutch values from fundamentalist Islam have disturbed the once unruffled surface of public life.

All the same, an attack on or near to Queen Beatrix, a much-loved symbol of Dutch pride and unity, is likely to trigger an anguished flurry of national soul-searching. There were rumours earlier this week that Queen Beatrix might be preparing to abdicate as she approached her 71st birthday – the age at which her mother Queen Juliana stepped down.

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Misdirection
[info]bogwart16 wrote:
Thursday, 30 April 2009 at 11:40 pm (UTC)
What has this tragic incident got to do with Pim Fortuyn or fundamentalist Islam? Nothing at all, is the answer. The guy had been refused access to his children, apparently. You lot are getting as bad as the Daily Mail; we have all the swine 'flu nonsense, now we have a random act of senseless carnage linked with Islam. Newspeak lives!

Please note: we are not American, we don't huddle together like frightened sheep, we don't run around like chickens with their heads off because someone says 'boo!' So stop pressing the alarm and panic buttons all the time.

And get your facts straight. There is no such country as Holland. It is the Netherlands, and Holland is one of the areas of the Netherlands.

Call yourselves a newspaper?
Re: Misdirection
[info]the_kegs wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 06:57 am (UTC)
Not 'the' Netherlands, simply, Netherlands. Stop reading wikipedia. Apart from that, I'm with you on America, and this being a newspaper.
Re: Misdirection
[info]bogwart16 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 10:06 am (UTC)
http://www.netherlands-embassy.org.uk/home/

I don't need Wikipedia (with a capitalised 'W') to identify the name of a country with which I have been dealing for more than forty years.

Neither do I need some minor smartarse nitpicking my comments. If you agree, you agree, if you don't you don't. But check the beam in your own eye before calling me out, matey.
Re: Misdirection
[info]the_kegs wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:16 pm (UTC)
That should be minor 'Dutch' smartarse, smartarse. I only capitalise relevence. Calling you out, matey? Why, you're just a bar room brawler, aren't you! A person of your age, tut tut, you should be ashamed. Two pints of Hooligans please mate.
Re: Misdirection
[info]bogwart16 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 05:56 pm (UTC)
If you're Dutch - if - then why are you writing an incorrect name for your country and then arguing about it?

If you *are* Dutch, then you are a disgrace in your use of English, a language at which the Dutch people I know excel, You can't spell, you don't understand idiom - shall I continue?

This is all getting very stupid. A newspaper comments section is hardly the kind of place to be chucking your teddies out of the pram. You come across as the kind of immature child who needs the last word, so prove me right and go for it. I'm finished.
When will it end?
[info]jamesf976 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 12:11 am (UTC)
For crying out loud, leave Islam out of it! I'm no muslim but I'm getting tired of the media wheeling them out at every opportunity. Why mention them in an article about this psychopath? What poor journalism, we're not idiots you know.
Lie by association
[info]nellag wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:05 am (UTC)

I totally agree with bogwart16 and and jamesf 976.

The irrelevant mention of the killing of Pim Fortuyn will associate this incident, in the minds of readers, with Islam.

The Brit media are very good at the 'lie by association'. The N. Ireland troubles are associated in most people's minds with violence by the IRA. The truth is that most of the killing, during that period, was the result of Loyalist violence frequently aided by the Brit controlled forces of 'law and order'.

The BBC and the rest of the media would report an atrocity, later proven to be the work of the loyalists/Brit forces. Their very next news item would start with something like "today the IRA bla bla bla..." Thus the atrocity was linked to the IRA.

I am sorry for the Muslims who have made their lives in the UK. They have much to endure. I am Irish. I lived in the UK in the 60's and 70's and know what it can be like. I had several visits from the Bomb Squad, although I had done nothing more than attend demonstrations. At the time the Brit legal system was fitting up the Birmingham Six.

They are, at present, employed in fitting up Muslim students aided and abetted by the Independent. This article creates the enabling mindset.
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 05:04 am (UTC)
The Muslims did it; I know they did it !

Even if they didn't do it; they are the only ones who could have done it.

The driver must have spoken to a Muslim before he smashed the car, or perhaps bought a pack of cigarettes from a Muslim shopkeeper; so they must share the blame.

Come on Pym; where are you ? We need you now; your chance to up the rhetoric on Muslims has come !
The Netherlands
[info]vanessa57 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 06:02 am (UTC)
I just want to say how sad I am whoever did this. I love the Dutch people and the Netherlands and the pictures are so vivid and tragic. Again, innocent people are the victims, ordinary folk honouring their Royal Family. My condolences.
Attack royal (posted from Norway)
[info]solfrid1 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
What has this incident to do with muslims? Bad people seems to be anywhere and acting badly with or without connection to any religion. People carrying weapons (in this case a car), are not wanted in our countries, whatever they are muslims, christians - or what ever.
From Tennessee, USA
[info]makepeace48 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 07:41 am (UTC)
People are over-reacting here. As both a Native Dutch person, and a former journalist, I too am shocked by this violence. But please note the Independent is simply putting this public act of violence in context, by citing the few other acts of public violence in recent years, extreme behavior in that country, and so at odds with its peacable domestic life and international image. If this had occurred in the US, or in Iraq, it would be more consonant with the general level of violence. Holland is an excessively peacable place and shootings, knifings, ploughing into crowds in cars, have now happened 3 times in the past decade.
Re: From Tennessee, USA
[info]solfrid1 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 08:18 am (UTC)
I agree with you. But still, we do not want people like theese in our countries, nor our communities. I think we all can be "makepeace" :-)


Re: From Tennessee, USA
[info]vdsouza wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:07 pm (UTC)
Mr. Tennessee, you obviously are extremely ignorant on both American and european cultures. The United States does not have a history nor is there a common occurrence of people ramming their cars into crowds. You might be confusing Hollywood with real life. What happens in the US is magnified 2000x for all the world to see. What happens in the rest of the world barely gets a peep from the media, especially the US media. I'm sure you're aware that the US violent crime rate is below that of the Netherlands and many other western european countries??? Check with the U.N., they will tell you. Wake up, you fool, and quit acting like a brainwashed puppet that sees only hate for your own country and "love" for your euroland themepark.! You make me sick, you southern hick!
Re: From Tennessee, USA
[info]mattashby1974 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 08:58 pm (UTC)
Actually, VdSouza, America comes in at #24 in the world for murders per capita, the UK at #46 and the Netherlands at #51. In fact they lead the western world.
you might wanna start checking your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
Richtwing action
[info]nijlgans wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
The dutch press mentions this atacker used to walk around in :shaved head , black boots and rolled up jeans ..
Doesn't that describe a Skinhead ???
But the new political correctness seems to be that right-wing violence gets glossed over as ' incidents ' and skinhead outfit as 'alternative dress '
when Pim Fortuyn was killed all the right wingers where shouting ' the bullet came fro the left ' and ascribing collective guild to everyone who was political left .. will they take collective guild now ...
Re: Richtwing action
[info]solfrid1 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 08:32 am (UTC)
The man has died,
Re: Rightwing action
[info]nijlgans wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 09:00 am (UTC)
Indeed the man has died , and of course this will be atributed to a single uncoordinated action , since rightwing violence always gets glossed over this way , just like the ultra right guy in Rotterdam 2 years ago who's weaponstash was one of the biggest ever caught in the Netherlands . did not even make the frontpage ...
Re: Lie by Association
[info]disputatious1 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 10:03 am (UTC)
Nellag's attempt to rewrite the history of the Northern Irish Troubles will not wash. Like him/her, I'm Irish, lived through the period and have to hand the authoritative work on the casualties of the conflict -- 'Lost Lives' by David McKittrick and others (1999).

Between 1966 and 1999, the IRA and other Republicans were responsible for 2139 of the 3636 deaths, while Loyalist groups accounted for 1050, and the security forces for 367. It is also worth noting that while Loyalists murdered about 800 Catholic civilians, Republicans murdered 636 civilians of whom 198 were Catholics.

It is therefore simply untrue to suggest that 'most of the killing was the result of Loyalist violence'.

Rodrigo
Re: Lie by Association
[info]nellag wrote:
Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 01:31 am (UTC)

Quote from David McKitterick in his article in the Independent on 31/12/01:-

"The statistics contradict the widespread perception of many casual observers who assume the IRA is the worst source of violence. While republicans have not ceased killings, the IRA has for some years been far outpaced by the loyalist paramilitaries.

The figures will be used in support of the argument, advanced in particular by media analyst, Roy Greenslade, that the media pays more attention to IRA activity than loyalist violence.

Statistics compiled by The Independent show that 14 of this year's troubles-related deaths were the work of loyalists. Two murders were carried out by the IRA and three others by other republicans.

This means loyalists were responsible for 74 per cent of deaths and the IRA for 10 per cent."

Do not imagine that I attribute infallibility to this, or any journalist. All journalism is an expression of the mindset of the writer. I have little respect for the intelligence of many of them.

The British media has been very successful in associating all N. Ireland violence with the IRA, although they haven't managed to pull that off in the Scandinavian countries who have an honourable history in such matters c.f. Palestine/Israel etc.
Oh Please
[info]ccusachs wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 11:20 am (UTC)
To believe that people reading this article will link this crazy person with Islam is just asinine. Also, to constantly belittle Americans is just as stupid. Do not think for a moment that Americans "huddle together like frightened sheep,.....because someone says 'boo!'". The misconceptions of Americans in Europe is getting really old and stale and make your comments look to be completely ignorant of anyone else but yourself. What happened in the Netherlands is horrible and even those of us that "huddle together like frightened sheep" are sorry for the victims in this.
Dutch Idiots
[info]yell0wsh0e wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
"Please note: we are not American, we don't huddle together like frightened sheep, we don't run around like chickens with their heads off because someone says 'boo!' So stop pressing the alarm and panic buttons all the time."

You obviously do not know Americans you Dutch idiot. You would be goosestepping and saluting the NAzi flag if it were not for us saving the Dutch who were huddled together like frightened sheep. Seriousl Who do you think your fooling moron ?
Re: Dutch Idiots
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:12 pm (UTC)
Dear yell0wsh0e,

Fact 1: In common with other Nazi-occupied countries in Europe in WWII, the Netherlands had a very active underground resistance movement, comprising countless thousands of resourceful and courageous individuals who risked their own lives to shelter refugees and allied servicemen, defend their countrymen and help defeat the Nazis from within. So they were not all 'huddled together like frightened sheep' either. I think what bogwart16 might have been alluding to (perhaps a little clumsily) in his remarks was the tendency of the American public to be driven by hysterical, artificially-created panics about imagined threats to their safety and security (largely initiated and sustained by their media). The response of Europeans to such things as terrorists threats is, by contrast, generally somewhat more stoical, pragmatic and evidence-based.

Fact 2: Contrary to the gung-ho myths of military invincibility to which many Americans apparently still subscribe (even after Vietnam...), the Netherlands and the other countries of western Europe were not liberated solely by American forces; they were liberated by ALLIED forces, which included not only American servicemen, but servicemen from Canada, Britain, the wider Commonwealth and even some European countries under Nazi occupation (e.g. the Polish, who played a significant role as pilots in the RAF). And let's not forget the vital role played by the Russians on the Eastern Front, who divided Hitler's forces and distracted his attention from the Channel coast, without which the D-Day landings might not have been possible. So while Americans can certainly claim SOME of the credit for the liberation of the Netherlands, and Europe generally, they certainly cannot claim ALL of it!
Re: Dutch Idiots
[info]eurodeathmonger wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:23 pm (UTC)
Save it for people who care, you marxist fool
Re: Dutch Idiots
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:32 pm (UTC)
'Marxist fool'?

You really do have an extraordinary ability to jump to all sorts of conclusions about people you have never met - and get them dead wrong.

I assure you I am the last person anyone could ever accuse of being a Marxist! As far as I am concerned, the guy was an idiot, and his ill-conceived ideas unleashed a pestilence of totalitarian regimes across the world, from Russia and Eastern Europe to China and beyond. The guy and his misguided followers have the deaths of (at least) tens of millions on their hands, and the needless suffering of hundreds of millions more.

But why, prey, do you call me a Marxist? Simply because I happen to know enough about the 20th century history of MY CONTINENT to be able to correct a few of your misapprehensions about it? Or perhaps it is because I dared to give the Russians some of the credit for defeating Hitler? Well, like it or not, those 'damned Commies' DID help to defeat the Nazis, and they deserve some credit for it (especially as they suffered far more from Nazism than any other country in WWII - some 20 million Russians died in the war, let's not forget.)

Re: Dutch Idiots
[info]eurodeathmonger wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:28 pm (UTC)
Who has been keeping 100,000 servicemen at their country's expense on your contienent to keep you people from killing each othe the past 70 years? Who was it that made the EU possible while we secured your borders from the communists? That's right, evil Americans. And you're welcome! Little did ignorant Americans know that western europeans actually like communism.
Re: Dutch Idiots
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:42 pm (UTC)
Once again, you are attributing attitudes and beliefs to me that are not mine, eurodeathmonger (but then, I have to ask myself just how rational and objective you can be about Europeans anyway, when you go by the moniker of 'eurodeathmonger'...).

I never said Europeans should not be grateful for all that America has done for us, both in the Second World War and since. I, for one, am deeply grateful, which is why I am not one of those who routinely indulge in America-bashing on these threads.

And I can assure you that (most) Western Europeans do NOT like Communism (there will always be a deluded few on the political left who are determined never to learn the lessons of history, of course)! How could we, when we had to live cheek-by-jowl with Warsaw Pact countries, under the constant fear of invasion and war, for over 40 years?

And, needles to say, Eastern Europeans most certainly do not like Communism, because they had first-hand experience of living under it for the same amount of time.

In fact, I doubt that you could find any continent on earth that has had more direct experience of Communism, and loathes it with greater intensity, than modern, post-Cold War Europe!
Modern tactics
[info]had_it wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 12:56 pm (UTC)
Kill anyone who disagrees with you and ignore the collateral damage to innocents. Once a tactic is known, it will be used by many.

And it works: it gets publicity, it gets you called "militant" instead of murderer, it can even get a state to give you your own local law.
My heartfelt sympathies...
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 02:41 pm (UTC)
My heartfelt sympathies go out to the friends and family of the victims of this tragic incident, and to all the Dutch people.

I am very fond of the Netherlands, and of the Dutch themselves.

I have friends in Amsterdam, and have enjoyed many happy and memorable visits there over the past twenty years (I regard Amsterdam as a 'second home', such is my fondness for, and familiarity with that wonderful city).

I have also attended the Queen's Day celebrations myself on several occasions (most recently, last year), and it is very sad that this much-anticipated and usually happy day in the Dutch national calendar, with its relaxed inclusiveness, party atmosphere and sense of fun, should have been marred by such a terrible event this year. No one deserves this, least of all the Dutch, who are some of the most decent, civilized and inoffensive people I have ever met. But I suppose no one can prevent or protect against sudden acts of madness by lone individuals.

Once again, my hearfelt sympathies go out to all of you. And I look forward to visiting your wonderful country again soon, in the Summer.
Re: My heartfelt sympathies...
[info]eurodeathmonger wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:21 pm (UTC)
Spoken like a the average dimwitted brainwashed American...
You can hurl stones at them, call them child rapers, and they'll still smile like dolts thinking they are loved.
Can't you get it through your thick Oprah watching skull that euorpeans want you dead at all cost???, you simple minded bafoon
Re: My heartfelt sympathies...
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:28 pm (UTC)
I am not American, but British - you simple-minded bafoon :o)

And what drugs are you on, exactly? I recommend you see your doctor about changing your prescription, because they are obviously turning you into a raving psychotic.

And please see my comments elsewhere about my opinion of Americans - and then apologise, if you have the courage and decency in you.
Re: My heartfelt sympathies...
[info]hyvaa_paivaa1 wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 11:08 am (UTC)
Damn, people,

What's with this freaking discussion about who is dumbest?? Or whatever the reason is for insulting every nationality here... It's unbelieveable ....
Stop with all the goddamn prejudice! haha
Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]vdsouza wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:02 pm (UTC)
What does the United States have to do with psychos running around europe trying to kill your out-dated inane royal families??? How is it that everything---EVERYTHING!---that happens in europe turns into an excuse to rant and rave against the United States and Americans? You europeans have completely lost your minds. No wonder you have so many crazies! Your anti-Americanism, which is so pathological, is only exacerabting the downfall of your civilization. But I have no sympathy for europeans. I truly could care less about what happens to your old, rotting corpse of a continent. It sickens me to the core of my being that billions of my tax money goes to defend your continent, when you are monsters who bash Americans at every opportunity. You are really sick sick sick people!
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:21 pm (UTC)
NOW who is indulging in crass, generalized 'bashing' of foreign peoples, vdsouza? Practice what you preach, eh?

I am certainly not alone amongst my European kin in happening to like Americans generally (though I reserve the right to dislike a FEW of them intensely, of course...), and I too tire of the relentless America-bashing that I sometimes see on these threads. But please do not judge all Europeans by the attitudes of a few. And your comments regarding us, and our continent, e.g.

"You europeans have completely lost your minds. No wonder you have so many crazies! ..your old, rotting corpse of a continent.".

....really are a little silly, factually inaccurate and needlessly offensive.

Have you ever even left the shores of your own country and actually VISITED Europe? If not, I do recommend you do so soon. Not only will this prove a valuable education for you, but I am also sure you will have a very enjoyable and memorable time, and meet lots of very nice, friendly - and not at all anti-American - Europeans :o)
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]eurodeathmonger wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:24 pm (UTC)
Awww, that's so touching! Next time your government-run BBC blames the US for your war in northern ireland and makes a documentary which depicts the USA as something worse than calcutta, I'll remember that--NOT!
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]dutch_lady_rdam wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 03:58 pm (UTC)
And what did I ( a 24 year old dutch woman) ever do to you that you hate me so much. You have never even met me, you don't know what my believes are. And believe me: I don't hate Americans... Maybe just one now....
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:00 pm (UTC)
I am not responsible for the output of the BBC, eurodeathmonger (I only wish I were - it might then be more truthful and balanced!).

And I cannot recall ever reading a story or seeing a programme by the BBC which blamed the US (exclusively, at least) for the troubles in Northern Ireland. (Although it is undoubtedly true that the IRA did receive substantial financial assistance from 'patriotic' Irish sympathizers in the US at one time or another, the truth is that the sectarian conflict there was initiated and sustained by ancient tribal, political and - especially - religious rivalries amongst the Irish themselves.)

And I repeat my invitation for you to come to this 'rotting corpse of a continent', and see with your own eyes how mistaken you are about us.
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]frenchgipsy wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 09:13 pm (UTC)
Give it up and admit defeat, eurodeathmonger. You've been intellectually KO'd by sickofstupidity and you don't even see it. See if there is a forum for John Craven's Newsround - it's more your level.
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]frenchgipsy wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 09:16 pm (UTC)
Give it up and admit defeat, eurodeathmonger. You've been intellectually KO'd by sickofstupidity and you don't even realise it. See if there's a forum for John Craven's Newsround - it's more your level.
Re: Another opportunity to bash Americans???
[info]happyhoppybunny wrote:
Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 02:17 pm (UTC)
I think this lengthy list of replies, where people are starting feuds with each other over facts and grammar, when commenting on how people lost their lives, is rather shocking.

What is the need for the aggression, does it really make you all happy? It is a magnified version of this selfish belief that you are right and hurting other people (physically or just their feelings) doesn't matter, that led to the incident you are commenting on.

I would like to make at least one of you smile so a wee joke- What's brown and sticky? A stick!

What's brown and sticky and runs round fields? A fence.

Giggle, it's good for you and i hear it makes you like longer ( :
Calm Down you Hippie Scum.
[info]keith_1980 wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 04:18 pm (UTC)
Your as bad as the other end of the spectrum, which points to Islam or Muslims, or seperatists, or loyalists, or libertarians. How do you know it wasn't a fundamentalist attack. Let the justice be served by the "SYSTEM" and leave the speculation to the nancy boys, or hardy boys, whatever you prefer. Get a Life!!! You don't know the facts. Neither do I. PEACE and LOVE to ALL. We are all brothers and sisters, some just more privaleged than others. AMEN.
Christian Suicide Attacker
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Friday, 1 May 2009 at 06:52 pm (UTC)
So it has now been confirmed it was a Christian suicide attack; belonging to the Al-Christo group which has headquarters in the mountainous region of the Alps, no doubt a search party will be sent to find Bin El Sid.
Re: Christian Suicide Attacker
[info]nellag wrote:
Saturday, 2 May 2009 at 11:41 am (UTC)

Excellent post.
Re: Christian Suicide Attacker
[info]nijlgans wrote:
Monday, 4 May 2009 at 02:52 am (UTC)
Non the such , A "weekend Skinhead " who first drove trough the Antillian dancing group , and then attacked the Royal family , most likely because the queen critizized the far right Mr Wilders recently ..
But in the so called "liberal" Dutch media the new political correctness makes it impossible to metion those facts ... Another skinhead who was involved in a well-known racist killing in the 80's even got the chanche to downplay the racist aspect of his crime as "an Incident" , "could have been anyone of any colour " ect ect ...
[info]djeuken wrote:
Thursday, 7 May 2009 at 10:07 am (UTC)
Queen's Day is not the celebration of Queen Beatrix's birthday, as her birthday is on January 31st. Because of this inappropriate day to have an annual event outdoors, the birthday of Beatrix's mother Juliana remained Queen's Day.
Racist comments
[info]cmmenter wrote:
Wednesday, 13 May 2009 at 03:07 am (UTC)
Very entertaining reading. I cannot believe how racist some of these comments are. All because of a very small minority of terrorists. I am English and HOLLAND seems a very nice country. I don't know much about the Netherlands, I have never called it that!

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