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Ann Widdecombe: Who else was going to cut my lawn? The cat?

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The first thing you are asked to say when you are going in front of a selection meeting to be adopted as a parliamentary candidate is that you are going to live in the constituency. Since you are also going to spend 60 per cent of your time in London, this means you are going to have to have two homes.

Most people cannot afford two homes. I could never have afforded two homes. We do not want to go back to the situation in the middle of the last century when the only people who could afford to be MPs were the very wealthy, on our side, and the trade-union sponsored on the other side, so it is right that the public pays for an MP to have a second home, and for the necessary upkeep.

And I say "necessary" because there is an enormous difference between having a widescreen television, and repairing the central heating. I never had a television in my second home throughout my 17 years as an MP. I never had a washing machine – I borrowed somebody else's. I got the crockery from my brother's old vicarage, but each room was painted once, and the exterior twice.

When you are spending most of your time in London, you have to pay for someone to cut the grass. Who else was going to cut my grass? The cat? The cat did not even live in my second home.

I have reservations about David Cameron's idea of a scrutiny committee, because on balance I would have preferred to have waited for the report from Sir Christopher Kelly rather than have everybody rush in with their own solutions. It's not helpful, and it's not as if we are going to have to wait until the second coming for Kelly; it is only until July.

I have called for a dissolution of Parliament, but there is a genuine worry that if people become disillusioned with all the main parties because of this, they will turn to the extremists.

But I must say having people from the journalist profession passing judgement on anyone's expenses is a bit like having Satan heading a commission on sin.

Ann Widdecombe is Conservative MP for Maidstone and the Weald

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[info]celticwelshman wrote:
Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 11:45 pm (UTC)
Well Ann, as a lifelong supporter of Labour, also supporting new labour under Blair, regrettably, no more. I must say I have briefly thought about the extremists parties, but pretty quickly decided against that, not wishing to witness a Crystal Nacht or similar sometime in the UK's near future.

I have decided that I am not supporting new Labour this time around for the European vote or the next G/E.

The only real option the public has in my view is to vote Conservative in so far as the G/E is concerned, at least by voting for them, we will hopefully have another G/E in 4/5 years time, not so sure about that if an extreme party gained power. I have to say it really goes against the grain to think of doing this.

What a hopelessly terrible position we have arrived at in this country, how rotten it has all become. I dread tomorrow's, Saturday's & Sunday's papers and net news for fear of finding more disclosures concerning men and women I once looked up to. not so now I am afraid.....

My own MP is Mark Tod, so far, so good...hopefully it will stay that way, for I know he had some misgivings concerning the expense system on his arrival in the HoP. so I doubt he has taken undue advantage..I can but hope.
Vote Conservative for more of the same!
[info]bishbashbong wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:22 pm (UTC)
You must have thought VERY briefly indeed about the 'extremist' parties if you think the Tory's are your best hope.

UKIP are a very extreme party, I mean just look at some of their outrageous policies...

They want to leave the political EU and trade globally and freely.
Restore standards in education including Grants instead of Loans.
Reform the NHS, the Police and Sentencing.
Restore traditional British farming and fishing and territorial waters.
Introduce a simple flat tax system, scrap Inheritance Tax, say no to 'Green' taxes.
Simplify the Welfare system.
Look into reopening some railway lines and make Foreign Haulage firms pay for using our roads.

Plus lots more exteme stuff.

The Conservatives so deserve our vote for NOT opposing the 3000 plus new 'laws' that Labour intoduced to curb our Liberties.
For NOT opposing legislation that allowed the Financial Sector to put the country into this current crises.
For their tireless suppport for the illegal wars we are now embroiled in.
For their sycophantic support of the 'Bailout' scam.
For their silence over the current expenses cheating. (easy to explain that one, don't you think?)
For NOT demanding that the Labour Party uphold their promise to allow the uneducated peasants of this land a vote on the EU Constitution aka Lisbon.


If you believe by voting CONservative we will have another General Election in 4-5 years then you haven't realised what the Lisbon Treaty actually is. It is a transfer of Sovereignty to a Foreign Power (Treason). Fully supported by ALL three main parties.
Once we're in then no more elections for us.

If you want everthing to remain as it is, then VOTE CONSERVATIVE.
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Re: Vote Conservative for more of the same! - [info]celticwelshman - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:34 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Vote UKIP for right wing extremism - [info]quietzapple - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:04 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Vote Conservative for more of the same! - [info]afreethinker - Saturday, 16 May 2009 at 03:26 pm (UTC) Expand
Bring in Single Transferable Voting - [info]robertclondon - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 05:19 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Bring in Single Transferable Voting - [info]celticwelshman - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:35 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Bring in Single Transferable Voting - [info]afreethinker - Saturday, 16 May 2009 at 03:12 pm (UTC) Expand
Be more responsible, Ann
[info]0pi0 wrote:
Thursday, 14 May 2009 at 11:52 pm (UTC)
YOU should have cut the grass yourself now and again - it really doesn't take that long unless you have outside space of Ancram/Hogg proportions / or (if you were too out of condition/lazy) you should have paid someone else to cut your grass out of your 60K+ salary (plus outside earnings..........). If you're personally incapable of dealing with your own grass, then unburden yourself (and the taxpayer) of that property and acquire one without grass.
Re: Be more responsible, Ann
[info]richleau wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:16 am (UTC)
I agree why does dear Ann bother with a lawn if she is spending only a fraction of her time in her constituency?
The expenses I must remind her are for conducting her parliamentary dutes, which would not included lawn mowing.

I suggest you help the cat do it, shouldn't take all day should it?
Re: Be more responsible, Ann - [info]had_it - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:14 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Be more responsible, Ann - [info]virginia_1976 - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 11:26 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Be more responsible, Ann - [info]linchung - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:36 pm (UTC) Expand
Ann Widdecombe
[info]victhebrit wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:02 am (UTC)
Of course the cat won't cut your grass, but if you're *that* busy that you can't find an hour every few weeks to do the mowing perhaps you should think of tarmacing you lawn.
BS
[info]reichtmann wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:21 am (UTC)
Disingenuous self serving Rubbish.
Plenty of people visit London and stay in things called HOTELS..
The very simple answer to this "systematic trough hoovering" is for the state to maintain various comfortable and servicable suites for the use of local and foreign MPs etc.
Then there would be no need for all this fiddling about and no room for all these unhappy "mistakes".
Tosh!
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:09 pm (UTC)
We don't want MPs who live the lives of the unfortunate minority of the population who "work away." Catch many of them on friday evening on inter city boozing their way home for an attenuated weekend, after a week of stress.

The pressure of an MPs lifestyle even now is quite catastrophic for them and their families in all too many cases.

Worse, MPs now may have to decide whether to vote for or against GB declaring war. We need them in good condition, not frazzled.

OUR interests, and theirs.
Ann - They are are not worthy of your defence !
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 02:51 am (UTC)
Ann; your values and ethics are very different from those you appear to defend; whilst we may not agree with your political slant over the years; I am sure nobody will question your sincerity to conduct yourself as a truely honourable member of parliament.

However the sort of characters that have penetrated the upper eschelons of governance are not worthy of you defending them.

Put it simply; they were not claiming for simple expenses such as " cutting the lawn", they were more than knee-deep in the mire of fraudulant claims.

And a custodial sentence should be their only option.
Re: Ann - They are are not worthy of your defence !
[info]humble_sparrow wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 09:51 am (UTC)
Watch out for extreme populist elements that try to jump in and hijack our democracy, I would suggest that they would be more corrupt and sinister than any MP claiming for a bit of garden maintenance.
Tosh! - [info]quietzapple - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Disingenuous at best, Ann
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 05:14 am (UTC)
What exactly is your point here, Ann?

As you represent an area very close to London, and well served by trains and coaches to London, did you really need two homes? Surely there are many people who commute daily from Maidstone to London and return home each evening?

The occasional late sitting of the House would easily have been dealt with by staying in a hotel, surely? The House of Commons only 'sat' for 165 days last year and so the number of late sessions was small.

By using the 'pairing' arrangement you could have ensured that you did not need to attend every sitting of the House of Commons, and so did not always need to be in London.

Given the above facts Ann, what is the point that you are trying to make?
Re: Disingenuous commuter nonsense.
[info]quietzapple wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:50 pm (UTC)
I prefer my MP to be alert and capable, not worn by unnecessary commuting.

These people carry large responsibilities, at times life or death decisions are theirs, and, as Malik pointed out, they may well work a 90 hour week.

It appalls me that my fellow countrymen and women are bent on becoming a crazed vigilante posse.

The current hysteria reminds me of Princess Diana's death, the dangerous dogs act period, and Beatlemania. None of those was so damaging to our country however.
Elliot Morely was sacked after it was revealed he had claimed for a mortgage that did not exist. ...
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 05:14 am (UTC)
Ann. Hush baby, do not say more I just read this. Please throw away that cat. I have a lawnmower of 1956. I am sending this with DHL. You send me the fish that the cat did not eat.
We must seize the moment to demand a written constitution.
Ann Widdecombe: You and your cat in all the papers. The cat? You worry about the cat. The lawnmower, while you are plastered in all news and we are starving. You are cruel baby.
Who else was going to cut my lawn? The cat? No. Send this to the Rats. Seen Tom and Jerry? Jerry wins at times. Dog is better as he licks the plates and you do not have to use more water. Swine these days are safe but ask the Tories about this.
Tory view And if you will allow I wrap up the Cat , dog , hotdog and the swine .
I have called for a dissolution of Parliament, but there is a genuine worry that if people become disillusioned with all the main parties because of this, they will turn to the extremists.
The expenses scandal creates a golden opportunity that cannot be wasted
I fully agree with you. Tell me one thing. UK is living without any constitution. I was under an opinion that English had concocted the word from Latin and Vikings and nor Red Indians. Let me take you where there is no law and the mess we have in there, then we come back to UK.
Obama Tries to Block Release of Detainee Photos
Mr. Obama advised his top military commanders about his decision in a meeting on Tuesday at the White House. Several military officials had argued against the immediate release of the photographs, saying such action could harm American troops in the field.
I agree to this concept of hiding truth. We not are being honest. And who likes like the deceitfulness.
UK Expenses Scandal Claims Political Casualties
Wall Street Journal - ?4 hours ago?
In another blow to the reputation of Parliament and the Labour Party, a committee at the House of Lords, the UK's second house, recommended that two Labour ...
Scottish budget may be cut under a Tory government
Scotsman - ?5 hours ago?
He also took a swipe at UK Labour ministers and SNP Scottish ministers for failing to talk to one another. He promised better communication with the ...
Extremists cash in on UK expenses scandal
ABC Online - ?6 hours ago?
By Europe correspondent Emma Alberici for AM Labour MP Elliot Morely was sacked after it was revealed he had claimed for a mortgage that did not exist. ...
UK's Labour Government Is On Borrowed Time
Forbes - ?Apr 24, 2009?
UK Finance Minister Alistair Darling yesterday set out his budget for 2009-2010. The results cannot be good for the Labour Party. ...
I would suggest, if you live honestly, you would live more in the eyes of the human.
David Cameron ordered senior Conservatives to pay back thousands of pounds to the taxpayer yesterday, in a brutal attempt to show that he was getting to grips with the expenses scandal embroiling all parties.
The Tory leader humiliated several members of the Shadow Cabinet by calling them in one by one and telling them the price for remaining in his top team was returning or forgoing sums up to
He then named them at a Westminster press conference. Where is the money, Cash taken?
The expenses scandal creates a golden opportunity that cannot be wasted?
Therefore, you are saying we draft the constitution on the expenses only or the new book of all the laws that have the flaws.
Have you spoken to your editor who pays you? He may have a better and shorter idea of calling the police and throwing away the pages of those not wanted like we had Enron. Rewriting will take years and Mr. Brown stays, as you cannot get rid of him now. That is the legality. Moreover, for that matter, even the police will change their dresses and will go to the garden to rest or will not chase your cat, dog, hotdog or swine. They are too scared.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
living more in the eyes of the human
[info]tominlondon wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 09:21 am (UTC)
Another masterly intervention from Firozali, the voice of sanity in these troubled times. Firozali should be given a column in the "Independent" !
Re: living more in the eyes of the human - [info]liam_ohuigin - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 09:40 am (UTC) Expand
Re: living more in the eyes of the human - [info]famulla - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 01:54 pm (UTC) Expand
Must you really have 2 homes?
[info]dag35 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 05:43 am (UTC)

Miss Widdecombe,

Can't you just stay in the Travel Inn across from Westminster, like any other business person who spends an inordinate amount of time on the road and away from their homes and families?

I am not sure the justification is automatic for a 'need' for 2 homes for MP's, particularly when attendance records in parliament and debates are so pitiful.
Re: Must you really have 2 homes?
[info]drug_baron wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 05:59 am (UTC)
MP's spend so much time on the fiddle; they don't have time to attend to parliament.

Not a lotta people know that !

But now a lotta people know that. In fact to much people know that now !
Re: Must you really have 2 homes? - [info]ottorino - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:33 am (UTC) Expand
Who will cut poor Ann's lawn?
[info]frigalo wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:05 am (UTC)
I seem to recall you had the time to write a book. As have many of your MP colleagues, who employ family to do half their job. Perhaps thier time could be put to better (but less lucrative) use - like mowing their own lawns and cleaning their own houses. Like the rest of us.
My Cat sleeps
[info]fatboyspin wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:09 am (UTC)
Ms Widdecombe - exactly what planet do you live on, you silly woman ?? I commute between the UK and Perth (Australia, not Scotland) for work as that is what we normal people do who aren't supported by the state and there's a recession around - I stay in my partner's house when in Perth which is NOT paid for by my company and I cut my own lawn when I get home - sometime I let it grow really long so the mice have somewhere to hide from the cat, Oh and I pay my mortgage in the UK, with my own hard earned money as well - which I pay tax on......and on.............and on............

(no subject) - [info]thomas_66 - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: My Cat sleeps - [info]corporeal4now - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 12:29 pm (UTC) Expand
4 I think is right as this is my birthday date. 4/13/1879AD/Ac/BC/VR
[info]famulla wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:10 am (UTC)
Must you really have 2 homes?
How many do you suggest? One is for the wife; one is for the kids you stay in the hotel with the waitresses. Is that asking too much from the government that sends the students at the age of 4 by Balls. Ed Balls.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
SILLY SAUSAGE
[info]indypen wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:22 am (UTC)
Look Ann you daft bat you don't get it do you? Non of the political class get it, and that's the problem. You lot have been found with your collective hand in the till. As for your grass conundrum buy a sheep on expenses!
Necessary for work as an MP
[info]someral wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:24 am (UTC)
The point is that you shouldn't be claiming for lawn mowing at all - just pay a gardener out of your salary.

You know, like everyone else does, well, would if they had a large enough salary and a house with a large enough lawn to worry about these kind of things. Working away from home is not an excuse to demand ordinary people pay for your maintenance.

As with so much of this stuff, MP's should ask themselves 'What Would An Average Taxpayer Be Legally Allowed To Do?'.

Finally some courage
[info]bc109 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:28 am (UTC)


At last some retaliation from a member of parliament. So well done Ann !
And can we have a few more articles like this from MPs who are "clean" enough to brave the parapet ?
We do need to find some balance in this debacle.
However....I cannot agree with the final paragraph about the journalist profession; catchy though it may be. Judgement is being made by the public at large.
At the next general election, heads will roll. It seems there is no other mechanism available. The French model hardly seems warrant endorsement.
Most people do not own two homes...
[info]spnfl wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:33 am (UTC)
...and most people earn about a third of your salary a year, and cannot claim any "expenses" back. Maybe the reason you need a second home despite living so close to London is that public transport is so laughably poor you can't possibly consider commuting. Despite the fact you seem to be a rabid, delusional zealot most of the time, I commend your apparent integrity in restraining yourself from claiming for anything above the "necessary" minimum. Perhaps wide-boy Malik should take a leaf out of your book... or be sacked. In fact, yes, just sack him.
[info]radant_wood wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:38 am (UTC)
Being an MP is a job like any other and it should have a fixed salary. If Parliament sits for 165 days a year a calculation can be made of the cost of travel by public transport from the constituency of each MP plus over night stay in a 3 star hotel. That becomes the 'expenses'. No extras for eating as, surprise, surprise, we all need to eat - it's not an 'extra'. No second home. What planet are we all living on that this sort of thing was allowed, and accepted, as 'normal' practice in the first place? Madness!
Ann Widdecombe
[info]songbird_52 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:40 am (UTC)
When government and politicians cannot govern themselves, we are dependent on a fully awake press....thank you to the DT....without its digging, none of this would have come out...and no changes made....
Re: Ann Widdecombe
[info]l3enz0 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 03:34 pm (UTC)
I believe Heather Brooke deserves more credit than the DT . What a woman ! Without her the DT would have nothing .

http://www.yrtk.org/

As for this article , a perfect example of how MP's of all generations seem to believe they deserve to have it all payed for by people with very little . Your self importance is sickening but truly explains why they always seem to be so out of touch ... it is because they are , living in a world that resembles ours not one bit .
[info]charles100 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:42 am (UTC)
The article is spoiled by the catty last sentence. The MPs have fought fo preventing th eppublication pf there expenses for a long time. Now we know why.
The infprmatoion due out in July was subject to prior vetting. Given the record of opbstruction by MPS I would rather trust the jornalists than the MPs
Time to cut the grass
[info]markkevinswain wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 08:25 am (UTC)
It really is time for the British people to cut the long dirty grass that is despoiling this country, full of weeds, maggots and other worms that slime away from the light when shone upon them.
Poor Mz Widdecombe, such an important person no time to cut her own grass like the millions of the voting peasants in the country who have to combine such chores with real work.
And she has the nerve to warn about so called 'extremists' -just like the eastern European communists before they got their just desserts at the hands of an enraged people. The real extremists have been defrauding us for years. No wonder the BNP is being received like a liberating army across the country
Re: Time to cut the grass - [info]afreethinker - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 11:17 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Time to cut the grass - [info]afreethinker - Friday, 15 May 2009 at 11:19 am (UTC) Expand
Sanctimonious whingers
[info]getagrip2 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:46 am (UTC)
What a load of self-righteous drivel being spouted. The fact is MPs get a meagre salary by the standard of London professionals (although it seems a lot to provincials). A few have got a bit too creative with expenses. A few more have been a little bit generous with themselves. Big deal. It's absolutely peanuts in the great scheme of things. And right now the great scheme of things is paying zillions to prop up the banks, but the morons don't understand banks so vent their silly fury at MPs. Much more worrying and corrupt than MPs expenses is the 'cash for amendments' scandal, the quangos, MEP's expense abuse ... but of course the mob can't a handle on those, so it's marching with pitchforks with Anne Widdecombe's cat hoiked up high because it didn't mow her lawn. (Disclosure, I'm not an MP, don't know any MP's, but do know a witch-hunt when I see one).
Ann Widdecombe
[info]candidlee wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
Dear Ms Widdecombe,
Ann Widdecombe
[info]candidlee wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
Dear Ms Widdecombe,
[info]luckylucianop wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:56 am (UTC)
Ann - it's sad that you appear to have no concept of the fact that your comments MAKE PEOPLE'S BLOOD BOIL. Pay for your own stupid lawn to be cut.
Gentlemen and players
[info]daniels09 wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 06:58 am (UTC)
Is being an MP really a profession? What qualifications do you need? What training, experience? A degree in PPE does not seem much of a preparation.
It is a part time job and should be rewarded as such.

And the man who has obstructed every investigation of MPs allowances and is responsible for the Fees Office, the Speaker Michael Martin, should probably face charges of malfeasance. The chicanery was condoned from the top and that is where reform should begin.
Ann Widdecombe
[info]candidlee wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:05 am (UTC)
Ms Widdecombe, many of us had enormous respect for you, particularly after you spoke out against those with "something of the night" about them in your own party. Now you've gone and spoilt it. But I for one will forgive you because none of us are perfect and your failure to cut your own lawn can be foregiven. But "flipping" homes, toilet-roll holders and all the rest of it, disgraceful! General Election as soon as possible, please.
MRS SLOCOMBES PUSSY
[info]indypen wrote:
Friday, 15 May 2009 at 07:08 am (UTC)
Ditch tiddles, get Andrew McKay to mow your lawn.
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