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Brian Eno: The well of freedom is running dry

Nobody bothers about civil liberties until they've gone. As the old country song warns: "You don't miss your water till your well runs dry."

We are letting the well run dry, allowing little bits of our civil freedoms to be chipped away by paranoiac governments who assure us we can trust them – and consistently betray that trust.

We are gradually sacrificing what has taken hundreds of years of civilisation to achieve, which is a condition of some kind of liberty. It may not be evident to everyone yet, but we have lost so much freedom in the past 10 years. When the Government passed its "anti-terror" laws, it reassured those who campaigned against them that they would only ever be used in the most extreme circumstances.

But these are completely vague laws which enable a government to arrest almost anybody for almost everything.

Within a couple of years they had been used to eject an 80-year-old heckler from a Labour Party conference, to arrest a woman for reading out the names of British soldiers killed in Iraq, and to freeze the assets of Icelandic banks in England. This is the problem with vague legislation of this type: it invariably gets called into use whenever anybody does anything that the Government finds embarrassing or the police find inconvenient.

It criminalises the behaviour of concerned citizens and thereby encourages disengagement and apathy. By preventing people from taking part in critiques of governance it increases the gap between rulers and ruled: it is fundamentally anti-democratic.

I worry about initiatives like identity cards and computer databases because they could be a step towards a police state, with completely innocent people being held in custody because of software malfunctions.

It is incredibly sad that these moves towards a police state should have happened under a Labour government. Gordon Brown should think about the serious problems that need to be solved – such as climate change – and direct his government's efforts towards that.

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powerlust
[info]doomsdaybug wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 01:14 am (UTC)
To date, every law introduced for security reasons has been used against the citizens, for no other reason than for nulabor's preservation of power.
This corrupt nulabor cult understands the importance of controlling the flow of information and stifling debate. It is pure paranoia and desperation on the part of nulabor to censor public criticism.
This nulabor cadre has declared war upon it citizens. Dovernment has become the enemy of the state.
Last time this happened, heads rolled, literally
Why is nulabor seemingly deliberately doing everything it can to ensure the development of those conditions that give rise to disorder, social unrest, riots, insurrection and even revolution ?
If the populace should react as being driven, this gives nulabor its excuse to impose a dictatorship - which is, by and large, what we have had for the past several years, with increasing impositions upon the freedoms of citizens.
This nulabor government is corrupt. The nulabor corruption is absolute, lead from the top down, imposed through all tiers of social and government control, down to street level. Being rotten to the core and from the core, everything it touches it taints. Having neither the ability nor inclination to correct itself, outside intervention is indicated.
The Well of Corruption is Doing Just Fine
[info]loftwork wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 02:18 am (UTC)
Brian, where have you been? Glad you spotted this and even better that you're speaking out about it, but things are far worse than you think.

While denying us more and more ancient freedoms, government is also becoming more and more corrupt. When BAe was accused of illegal backhanders to the House of Saud, the DPP was told to back off because the Saudis would stop sharing security information. Now, when David Miliband was asked to provide information about the torture of Binyam Mohamed with the direct involvement of MI5, he suddenly produces a letter from the US State Department threatening to - you guessed it - stop sharing security information. This time, two days later, we find out that the FO requested the letter, something Miliband 'forgot' to mention under oath. Strangely, the DPP does not charge him with Perjury. Can we protest about this apparent double standard? Only if the police say so, and not anywhere near Parliament.

We're on the verge of having to wear dog tags (the mandatory ID card) when we walk abroad, and t have to pay for the privelege of having vast amounts of personal information - DNA, emails, health records, financial records, legal records - stored on national databases which will only be accessible to a few hundred thousand people of perfect honesty and impeccable typing skills. If the information is wrong, you will not know it. If you don't like it, tough. Since when has it been a crime to exist? Since when has there been a two-tier legal system, with impunity for ministers? The only beneficiaries of this electronic mayhem are the international data handling companies who will inherit the mega contracts, and presumably provide retirement homes for tired ministers.

Will there be any enquiries? Not if ministers get their way. They want the power to make Enquiries secret. Guess why?

Brian, I appreciate your comments but it's way past time to object politely. It's time to get angry and take back our lives while we still have some vestige of ancient legal rights.
All too obvious to predict unfortunately.....
[info]blobbox wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 02:26 am (UTC)
Left-wing governments are historically the ones that erode civil liberties the most and one can't help wondering if the greatest reduction of these in the UK has been done knowing that what will be reaped from so many years of uncontrolled immigration and reckless pandering to the whims of minority religions and creeds will require the Government to have those very poers at their firngertips so that they can rule the populace with an iron fist once the time comes. In fact, I can't help thinking that nothing more than the break-up of the UK and an enforced entry under the control of the EU superstae is what was planned from the start. When people start throwing bricks here, the EU will sen-in the first combined police force to deal with it and from that point, Britain as an independent nation, is finished, along with what's left of the democracy it fought for centuries to win but which has been torn-up and destroyed in very little time by Nu Labour and it's north of the border cronies.
King John
[info]tovasco wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 05:37 am (UTC)
"How oft the means to do ill deeds makes ill deeds done"
ID Cards and databases
[info]forwardplanning wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 06:37 am (UTC)
I refuse to worry about them because I refuse to accept them.

Now if everyone said and did the same thing.............just what exactly can the politicians do?

Power to the people
Re: What exactly can the government do?
[info]ricci_d wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 12:38 pm (UTC)
Well, if they see me with my placard campaigning for, say, Trade Justice, and they'd rather not have a demo because they've got, say, some G8 leaders in town - exactly the people I'm trying to influence - they can lock me up. and if they time it right they can make sure I miss the entire G8 summit + a holiday I might have booked, or maybe some (Christian) preaching engagements I had, where I might have told the congregation about 3rd World countries being exploited by European trade agreements.
Freedoms, as such
[info]mattmaybe wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 07:19 am (UTC)
It is a pity that you used such a contentious issue as climate change in an otherwise apt piece
Long Now
[info]geiseric wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 09:31 am (UTC)
The reason given for the erosion of civil liberties is terrorism, i.e. militant islam. The reason we have a problem with this is because of mass immigration/multiculturalism. Now we see the Labour government, which has allowed a huge increase in immigration, using anti terrorist police to harass the opposition (Damien Green).

Also the possibility of terrorism is given as the reason we have to fight wars in the Middle East. Wasn't the coming together of nations supposed to stop wars?

Long Now: Given current demographic trends, how soon before Britain, or at least England, becomes a muslim country? What price our freedoms then?
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. ha!
[info]ptstroud wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 10:02 am (UTC)
Absolutely true. Remember the mantra if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear. Tell that to the lady reading the the names of Iraq casualties or the crowd of demonstrators held up outside of London for hours. Also those parents who were spied upon because it was suspected that they might be cheating to get their child into the school of their choice. And now, we are told, one police force (sorry service) is insisting on every pub in its area having a CCTV camera. Yet we have a Home Secretary who loves these sloppily drafted laws who is quite content to cheat the taxpayer out of thousands of pounds via the parliamentary housing allowances.

We must demand that the Tories when they get power will amend anti terror laws so that they can only ever be used against terrorists.
I am not a number....
[info]tiberiusk wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 10:26 am (UTC)
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own. I am not a number, I am a person.
Better start saying it now. Soon it will be hard to remember.
Re: I am not a number....
[info]jfkc wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 10:49 am (UTC)
You have been filed, stamped, indexed, numbered and then re-numbered all your life since the moment you were born. Your birth ceritificate has an unique number even if your name isn't. Your passport has a number even if you think your face is unique. You are given an NI if you work. All your bills have customer reference numbers. When you die, you will be re-numbered again in your death certificate even if you demand not to be numbered in life. Lets face it, having an ID card cannot really increase your experience of being numbered that much more.
Re: I am not a number....
[info]forwardplanning wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 01:55 pm (UTC)
"Lets face it, having an ID card cannot really increase your experience of being numbered that much more."

Sorry I beg to differ. You obviously do not what databases will be behind these Cards and if you do, then you're Mandelson and I claim my £5
Re: I am not a number....
[info]jfkc wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 06:30 pm (UTC)
In fact, it is not at all difficult to know what databases behind these ID cards will be. They will be 'non-working' ones and unfit for purpose, just like every other multi-billion pounds government IT initiatives that grace this land since man invented computers. The project will drag on a few years before they pay off the software contractors and then declare the system not needed afterall, possibly because of some astrological events nobody foresee. Sadly, I am not Mandelson and you have just lost your £5.
[info]john_levett wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 11:53 am (UTC)
I was with you every step of the way.. But then you went and ruined it with the reference to climate change.
Britain IS a police state!
[info]23667 wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 12:19 pm (UTC)
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Re: TARNISHED COPPERS
[info]charityplayer wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 07:37 pm (UTC)

SILENT CAPS FOR THE TIME BEING


NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
COPPERS ARE TARNISHED AND BROWN,
NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
NO COPPER THAT YOU FIND,
LYING
AROUND

NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
NO COPPER THAT CAN BE FOUND,
NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
TARNISHED COPPERS ABOUND

WHENEVER I SEE A TARNISHED COPPER,
LYING ON THE GROUND,
I ALWAYS BEND OVER
AND PICK IT UP,
RATHER THAN KICK IT AROUND

'COS A TARNISHED COPPER,
THAT WAS ONCE BRIGHT,
IS A SORRY LOOKING SIGHT,
LYING IN THE GUTTER
ON A COLD WET WINDY NIGHT

NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
JUST AS THE WORLD IS ROUND,
NO COPPER IS PERFECT,
COPPERS ARE TARNISHED AND BROWN





M8*
Civil Liberties?
[info]robertsgt40 wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 10:20 pm (UTC)
They're already gone. That's the end game. Total domination by a select few. That's why the feds want to reeal the 2nd Ammendment. Me..I'm well armed.
Re: Civil Liberties?
[info]ejh16 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 01:50 am (UTC)
You are well armed? Boy, that's reassuring. Please stay in America with the rest of the wackos.

http://theunpeople.blogspot.com/
Eno is right, but is missing the important question.
[info]bilejones wrote:
Friday, 20 February 2009 at 10:34 pm (UTC)
What is to be done?

People have been allowing this increasing serfdom for decades, what is the catalyst that will change it?
Re: Eno is right, but is missing the important question.
[info]silenthunter2 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 10:31 am (UTC)
Here's a start! :o)

http://politicalnewsblogs.com/

Your welcome to join us, as are all who are interested in Freedom of Speech and the Right to Protest.
Ifstar
[info]ifstar wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 03:45 am (UTC)
Yeah man we live in a police state just as bad as any before. People dragged off and beaten just like under mugabe, peter tatchell is our very own ang san suu kyi, as we speak eno is currently writing his very own gulag archipelego series after spending half a tortuous hour talking to a BA official at heathrow . Oi poor britain how fair we have fallen from the days a black man could have his house burned down and his son butchered with a nod and a wink from the boys in blue. How we yearn for the days of freedom in which a man could spend his day hoping he didn't get caught engaging in a spot of sodomy. Woe is me great britain has fallen with the last hang mans noose, freedom has died with the womans vote. the days when a politician could share mistresses with a soviet spy and no one would know, when every man on the block could cheat on his taxes, his wife and administer a decent upper cut if she thought she caught wind of anything. Bless fallen blighty.
Go back to your chill out room Bri.
[info]terry_walpole wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 06:17 am (UTC)
Brian you are so naive in your understanding of politics and so lame in your condemnation of the Nu Labor Kult. I read better blogs here.

It's not incredibly sad that the Nu Labor Kult has burdened us with the Police State it is very predictable. For an ideology that depends on coercing the individual into behaving in the politically correct way Nu Lab Kults resort to totalitarian methods should come as no surprise.
Silent Hunter - http://politicalnewsblogs.com/ ..........Where Freedom of Speech LIVES !
[info]silenthunter2 wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 10:02 am (UTC)
Brian,

That's an excellent article.

More people who have the ability to speak out, should be railing against this pernicious authoritarian Government and the repression of the people whom it purports to represent.

I personally don't think that any of this 'controlling' legislation brought in by a Labour Government....A LABOUR GOVERNMENT ! (as Neil Kinnock might say) is by 'accident'......or .......carelessness.

ALL Labours 3000+ new laws were brought in with 'malice of forethought' for one reason only; to control the population and thereby place a stranglehold on the reins of power.

The Terrorism Laws are a logical extension of this..........when people peacefully protest; they can be arrested and detained for 42 days without charge..........you mentioned the lady reading out the names of the war dead from the Illegal Iraq War at the Cenotaph who was arrested.
That is probably the singular most venal act that this despicable Labour Government has perpetrated against the ordinary citizen of this country as it tramples all over the memory of the dead of two world wars who fought and died to save our country from tyranny..........I wonder how they would feel about the Quisling Labour Party who have introduced it by the back door.......making their sacrifices all for nought; if WE, the current generation let it happen.

I sometimes think that Labour simply losing the General Election is way too small a price for them to pay - they should be removed from power in a revolution and put on trial for their criminality.

Silent Hunter - http://politicalnewsblogs.com/
Electoral Dictatorship.
[info]taxfries wrote:
Saturday, 21 February 2009 at 11:02 am (UTC)
NuLab have demonstrated, not just to the UK population, but to the rest of an increasingly mobile world, just how the system of electoral dictatorship works, and how it can be exploited by people who are not really fit to hold high office in a liberal democracy - which is why NuLab ministers have thrived in the UK, where there are so few checks on their power.
Loss of freedom and civil liberties
[info]lou3946 wrote:
Sunday, 22 February 2009 at 06:07 am (UTC)

Dear Staff:

Mr. Eno is so right about this he is burning hot! This week former Attorney General John Ashcroft stated that President Obama has kept the practise of torture, extraordinary rendition (kidnapping etc.) and indefinite detention in place from the Bush Administration. He even stated the only difference in Bush and Obama's policies was the way the names were spelled.

Ashcroft has expressed a desire to start the use of detention camps for U.S. citizens, meaning these have already been built and are ready to be filled etc. Alex Jones, radio commentator from Dallas, Texas has further confirmed the existence of the camps on American soil. No doubt there is something similar planned for Great Britain, especially with the two British journalists jailed in California without bail for satire.

It will take a willingness to see what is beneath the appearance of our cultures in the U.S. in Britain. Another great British journalist, David Icke has said this is but the "turning of the tide...", and that we must all remember who we really are to stop the loss of our freedom at the hands of leaders who merely want to enslave us (with a one world government).

Sincerely,

Luther R. Norman, M.M. USA

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