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Bruce Anderson: Face the facts... Most MPs are decent people, not crooks

Many of these good men and women find themselves hideously embarrassed, often unfairly so

Last week, a friend of mine went canvassing for the European elections. In two hours, he was the only person he met who knew – or cared – that an election was imminent. This did not mean that those whom he encountered were lacking in political awareness.

On the contrary: he had never seen the public so animated. But only one subject exercised them: MPs’ expenses. As he put it, every street had been renamed Earbash Drive.

Though the anger is understandable, anger is rarely a wise guide to action. The system must be changed, but not in a spirit of mob outrage. If there was not a problem which required thought, it would never have arisen. The new arrangements will need calmness and deliberation. Sir Christopher Kelly, the civil servant in charge of the expenses review, has exasperated a lot of MPs by insisting that he needs time to produce a proper report. He has a good case.

His difficulties arise from a deceptively common-sense point. Anyone who is obliged to maintain two residences in order to do his job is surely entitled to an accommodation allowance for the secondary residence.

That, however, is as far as commonsense takes us. The terms and conditions of these allowances are necessarily complex: hence Mr Kelly’s need for more time. Until the 1990s, MPs’ accommodation allowances were not generous.

They certainly did not cover mortgage interest payments. Those who did not own property in London rented rooms or stayed in their clubs. In one respect, life was easier.

There was less pressure for MPs to live in their constituencies. Even if they could not emulate Duncan Sandys in the 1950s, who reminded his local party that he was the representative of Streatham in Westminster and not the other way round, some of them could get away with a monthly visit. But over the past two decades, all that has changed. Three new factors are in play: cowardly governments, stroppy wives and resurgent Liberals.

For years, successive governments have been reluctant to pay MPs properly.

One can understand why. On MPs’ pay, there is never a good moment to catch the public in a generous mood. As they contemplate the pressures on the public purse, and on their own, few voters are inclined to conclude that their MP deserves more money. So salary increases were held back, while “expenses”, which attracted no publicity, were raised.

Old-fashioned wives were much readier to kiss the husband goodbye on Monday morning and endure stoical domesticity until Friday evening.

Today’s girls are more demanding and some of them are also sceptical as to what precisely the husband gets up to during those long nights in London. So there is more pressure on MPs to ensure that family life can take place in both residences. That adds to costs.

Finally, there are the Liberals, always ready to remind the constituency that their candidate is local, while the sitting member is never to be seen. In Tory seats, “will you live locally?” is the first question that an aspirant will be asked. These days, a reply in the negative will almost invariably elicit a negative response.

As a result, the current arrangements came into being, under which anMPcan claim more than £20,000 a year: not an unreasonable sum, given London prices. But it is not as straightforward as that. What about the MP who already owns two houses. Is he entitled to the allowances?

What about the Parliamentary married couples; should they both receive a subsidy? Are MPs allowed to spend the money as they choose, even if that means chandeliers and hugely expensive televisions? If an MP uses the allowance to pay mortgage interest on a more valuable property than he could otherwise afford, is he allowed to keep the profit?

There are no easy answers to any of these questions. The simplest solution would be to abolish the second residence grant and compensate MPs with a substantial pay rise. In a sense, this was what Gordon Brown would have arrived at, with his proposal for a daily allowance. That was unworkable. It would have seemed to the public that MPs would have been given an additional payment, merely for deigning to turn up to work.

Yet any fair review ought to include an assertion which would be howled down in Earbash Drive. The vast majority of MPs are decent and hardworking. They did not go into politics to grow rich. Most were animated by a spirit of public service, often with more than a tincture of idealism.

Many of these good men and women now find themselves hideously embarrassed, often unfairly so. Take Oliver Letwin: what on earth is he supposed to have done wrong? As long as there is an allowance for a second home, essential maintenance must be an acceptable item. Mr Letwin suffered from a burst water-pipe. The local water authorities ordered him to repair it.

He did so, and claimed the money.

All would have been well, except that part of the water-pipe ran under the Letwins’ tennis court. So in the public mind, he is indelibly accused of wasting taxpayers’ money on affluent fripperies. If only it had been a hole in the roof.

There have been abuses. “Flipping” is a clear example. MPs should be able to alter the designation of their secondary residence perhaps once in a Parliamentary career, but not like a pancake-maker on Shrove Tuesday. That is not the worst.

Although over-generous home improvements may be reprehensible, they do not amount to embezzlement.

MPs who succeeded in converting housing allowances into cash in the back pocket are now in danger of being awarded free accommodation, at a lower standard.

That should not be allowed to discredit the vast majority of MPs, who are not crooks. But Earbash Drive is not persuaded of that, so there is an urgent need to detoxify Parliament’s reputation. As it may be beyond the power of the human mind to devise an acceptable system of expenses, there is an argument for revisiting Gordon Brown while also reducing the number of MPs. Face down Earbash Drive, increase the salary – but also announce that the number of MPs will be cut from the current 646 to 500, in three tranches of 50 at successive elections.

Another festering boil is overdue for lancing. Those who know the Speaker assure one that he is a good man. If so, he does not behave like one. Parliament now needs a great speaker: a commanding presence in the Chamber, respected throughout the country, who could summon the party leaders and instruct them to get a grip, fast. Instead, we have a painful mediocrity, who stumbles from truculence to self-pity, and who has no idea how to uphold the dignity of his office. He must go.

The Portcullis has come to symbolise Parliament. But the Parliamentary portcullis is now damaged beyond the power of an MP's expenses to repair it. Yet it is vital that it should be restored. No country can function well if its system of government is held in contempt.

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A man's virtue is written in water - his vices in stone
[info]hcurtiss wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:12 am (UTC)
This quotation (or something like it) appears along the Thames embankment very close to the HP. Over 80 of the chamber of MPS have already been exposed as having petty or serious expense claims that could be interpreted as fraudulent, excessive or simply 'taking the piss'. Admittedly in the iniquity stakes this is not grand larceny but the sheer numbers have inevitable tarred the entire chamber. They have brought shame onto their peers as well as themselves. They cannot be exonerated on the grounds that these are minor peccadillos that belie their true nature as honest, hardworking public servants. Trust once lost is lost forever, and those that can't be trusted are worthless - men of straw! They are condemned not only by their foolish claims, but their stupidity in believing no-one would notice or care,
Re: A man's virtue is written in water - his vices in stone
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:27 am (UTC)
You are so correct in what you say mate.

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No, you face the facts and there are more facts to come!
[info]mannygoldstein wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:19 am (UTC)
How dare you adopt that hectoring tone when addressing your readers scolding them as if you were a school teacher taking to errant school children.

The public ARE facing the facts, and they do not like what they see. The mainstream media have been silent for the last decade as the current financial/economic/political crisis developed, and only because sensitive information never intended for publication was revealed after The Daily Telegraph obtained it, not as the result of investigative journalism, have these matters come to light.

Armed with the facts, the British people are finally able to see the venality, greed, self-interest and arrogance of their elected representatives and they can now coolly and calmly compare there actions with the performance over the last decade.

These politicians, have been weighed, they have been measured, and they have been found wanting. Their financial iniquities pale into insignificance compared with their absolute incompetence. Despite massive tax revenues, more people live in poverty, despite two foreign wars the country is less safe, civil liberties have been eroded whilst the government losses confidential data on a daily basis, the list goes on and on.

"Many of these good men and women now find themselves hideously embarrassed..." As you should be for your ostrich-like defence of the indefensible. When will you people in Westminster village finally allow the penny to drop and get an inkling of the anger felt by the general public who have lost jobs, businesses, savings and pensions while the politicians lined their pockets with public money?

MP's would not be embarrassed if they had behaved properly, but even those who did not make false claims sat by and did nothing as their fellow MP's did, and that makes them accomplices to the fact.

As for journalists, they have traditionally held those in power to account but instead decided to look the other way for so many years. Too little, too late was the Fourth Estate, but do not compound your errors by trying to lecture the 'little people' about how they did not understand, or did the recent reception of Margaret Becket escape your attention Bruce?
Re: No, you face the facts and there are more facts to come!
[info]richleau wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 08:15 am (UTC)
Bruce won't face the facts ever. Could it be that Bruce is our very own version of Dick Cheney?
Actuakky, "most" bloodstained snouts "are" not "people"
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:30 am (UTC)
but unscrupulous cogs of the pseudo-democracy. The few who are not (typified by for example an opposition gang member (Davis / Davies) who resigned as a matter of principal, and was consiged to a back row place at the trough while a slippery toff was selected as gang leader) are unable to influence the conduct and characteristics of a self-serving pseudo-democratoic circus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seXu531jLHM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dwp.gov.uk%2Fcampaigns%2Fbenefit-thieves%2F&feature=player_embedded
Re: Actuakky, "most" bloodstained snouts "are" not "people"
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:29 am (UTC)
All this hurts democracy. It was much better during the knighthood times.

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anderson you cunt
[info]bowesy wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:40 am (UTC)
Many of these good men and women now find themselves hideously embarrassed, often unfairly so. Take Oliver Letwin: what on earth is he supposed to have done wrong? As long as there is an allowance for a second home, essential maintenance must be an acceptable item. Mr Letwin suffered from a burst water-pipe. The local water authorities ordered him to repair it.

Anderson - wholly exclusively and necessarily are the key words. Repairing anything like that is and never will be exclusively. Get your facts right before you put pen to paper. If you disagree there are many tax cases that will support the position, eductae yourself moron
Re: anderson you cunt
[info]afreethinker wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 07:31 am (UTC)
excellent point.
Purge the parties of the pigs
[info]rickraider wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:47 am (UTC)
Totally agree most MP's are not crooks and we should get some balance back into the debate. However those that have committed crimes like Morley and Chator or deliberately exploited the rules to gain thousands pounds like Shahid Malik must be removed from parliament immediately. Where a crime can be proved they must also be prosecuted. Purging the parties of these pigs is the only way forwards.
Re: Purge the country
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:59 am (UTC)
Re: Purge the parties of the pigs - [info]roshangjha - Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:29 am (UTC) Expand
Like everything Bruce Anderson writes
[info]leonard_merryl wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:47 am (UTC)
this article is crap from start to finish.

Time to get rid of Anderson and his fascist blather.
Re: Like everything Bruce Anderson writes
[info]bowesy wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 07:16 am (UTC)
it is worse than crap - this cunt thinks if he says it enough it will be ok, much like Brown"the prudent".

His legal knowledge is little more than child like and his analyses are incorrect.

If he was able to it would be a good time to take his head out of his arse
Re: Like everything Bruce Anderson writes - [info]ourtone69 - Monday, 18 May 2009 at 07:40 pm (UTC) Expand
Increase the salary, but make 'em work for it
[info]bryanmcgrath wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 05:59 am (UTC)
I agree with Mr. Anderson the use of expensive as a substitute for unpopular salary increases is at the root of the current problem: like much else that is wrong with democracy in the UK the problem started with Thatcher. Of course, it has been honed to perfection by Blair and Brown: I excuse Major from this particular cock-up, since he was too busy trying to keep the lid on sleaze to allow generous increases in expenses.

I agree with Mr. Anderson that a substantial increase in salary for MPs should be introduced at the same time that a substantial reduction in their number is also undertaken, I would go for something like 450.

I disagree with Mr. Anderson's statement: "The vast majority of MPs are decent and hardworking". I'm afraid the vast majority of MPs are time serving "lobby fodder": all you have to do is watch the poor quality of the "planted" questioners at PMQs. I also believe MPs should "clock-on". Apart from PMQs the chamber is practically deserted. I hear Mr. Anderson complaining that MPs are in committee most of the working day: prove it with a detailed timesheet.

"I would go for" 50 million, shut down the Westminster circus
[info]cronyblatcher wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 06:15 am (UTC)
Re: Increase the salary, but make 'em work for it - [info]floppsiefrog - Monday, 18 May 2009 at 08:42 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Increase the salary, but make 'em work for it - [info]roshangjha - Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:30 am (UTC) Expand
Most MPs are decent people.......
[info]victormc wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 06:16 am (UTC)
Are they? The count as of today is 137 named and the rest are totally innocent are they when they all belong to the same club? You, along with many others are simply not grasping a single thing are you Mr. Anderson? This is not some Westminster spat it goes to the very soul of our so called 'democracy.' Which is now almost non-existent.
As 80% of our laws now emanate from Brussels our HOC has become a rubber stamp thus they have turned to crime as a pastime lead and encouraged by the criminal in chief Mr. Speaker Martin who unforgivably spent taxpayers money on legal advice in order to try and keep all this out of public scrutiny.
Re: Most MPs are decent people.......
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:31 am (UTC)
Mr. Speaker is a thief himself.

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Sanctimonious rubbish.
[info]rojaws wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 06:24 am (UTC)
Anyone who is obliged to maintain two residences in order to do his job is surely entitled to an accommodation allowance for the secondary residence.

All well & good but I think part of the problem is that a lot of people in Britain feel (quite rightly) that MPs' HAVEN'T been doing their jobs!
What's my justification for saying that?
Look around.
Re: Sanctimonious rubbish.
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:32 am (UTC)
Yes, they are not doing their jobs properly. In fact, they aren't doing their jobs at all?

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Bruce Anderson, you face the facts
[info]giuseppesaponi wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 06:35 am (UTC)
You are an Islamophobe, racist and full of sh*t.
Re: Bruce Anderson, you face the facts
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:32 am (UTC)
Who do you think you are abusing like that?

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[info]media_myths wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 07:22 am (UTC)
I've never read so much apologetic, fumbling for excuses, drivel in all my life! Are you after a knighthood?

Reduce the number of MP's? Why? To save money? Here's a better idea; Reduce MP's wages to the national average, that way we can get rid of the political careerists who have never lived like the rest of us, let alone understand our hopes, dreams, fears and aspirations. It will have the added bonus of ensuring that MP's will try their hardest to improve the lot of everyone in this country!
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:33 am (UTC)
We need to reduce the number of MP's really. This will reduce the burden on tax on us. Maybe?

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mannygoldstein beats your nonsense Brucy
[info]rhinocircus wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 07:35 am (UTC)
For too long the British people have suffered indolent, craven and unscrupulous politicians.
No sooner do these polite and obliging gentle folk, who humbly solicit you at your door, enter Parliament, than they cock-a-snook at any humility and wear their designer clothes of power.
They are very seldom, if ever, "innocents abroad", when it comes to thoroughly knowing what an MP's job entails.
Nor is the job like any other. The camera in the House of Commons never pans the chamber, unless there is a great national issue to vote--so we cannot see how many are there, on a normal day to do the business. PMQs usually portray the fatuous and childish level of debate, to represent the combined efforts of their work for the Country. And what are these people doing for most of the year, when Parliament is in recess? They do not attend secret schools for wisdom--that's for sure.
No Bruce--you shall not blind us with your contrary views of MPs, who (unfortunately) are forced to make false claims for having to maintain two or three large houses, or other indulgences--though I suspect you could make a good case for the innocence and naivity of Machiavelli.
Parliament and the political system needs a complete overhaul--root and branch--and the British public must be helped, not hindered in this supreme effort.
mannygoldstein has expressed the right argument and spirit to carry this through, however, I suspect more hacks will protect the golden trough, if there is a sustainable movement to replace it.
Re: mannygoldstein beats your nonsense Brucy
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 05:54 am (UTC)
Ask them what an MP needs to do and you may not get the right answer.

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What are you on???
[info]min100 wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 08:28 am (UTC)
I'm just sorry I wasted 5 minutes reading this drivel.
Mr Anderson, the anger at Mr Lewin is not that he claimed for his burst water pipe but that his 'necessary' second home had a tennis court!!!!!! I don't know what planet you're from, but for most of us living on 'Earbash Drive' this is utterly absurd. Read between the lines Anderson and attempt some proper journalism. Stop sullying the Independent with your nonsense.
Re: What are you on???
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 06:15 am (UTC)
Read the article again properly.

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Silence of the masses does not absolve them of culpability
[info]unlikelylad wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 08:38 am (UTC)
Just because the bloke next to you is claiming and you are not dose not absolve them of blame. Their silence to the failure of the system simply sends a message that corruption is acceptable so long as I do not partake!

Lowely bankers, all of whom we tar with an equally blanket brush approach, also sit silent on the failure of their own institutions - yet for many in this sector, they lack the teeth to change the rules. It is an industry dogged by greed and run by those who benefit the most. Politicians have equal ability to raise the barriers or respect. Where are the noble fighters, the Benn's and Skinners of the World, the champions of the working classes. Why does it rely on an outsider to raise concerns and bring to light all that is rotten in the heart of this sick nation.

This silence, this acceptance of individual cleanliness vs. group corruption, should never by used as justification to ignore or solicit change. It is the silent masses that make us mad as hell - they are the ones who make us all believe that everyone in their was enjoying the gravey train, one way or another.
Re: Silence of the masses does not absolve them of culpability
[info]roshangjha wrote:
Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 07:06 am (UTC)
We are the boss. They should know that.

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You've got me in stitches
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 08:49 am (UTC)
Bruce.

So MP's need to fiddle their expenses because their wives are more demanding and expect a 'family' residence so that they can keep a weather eye on hubby?

I see. So back in the days of 'domestic servitude' MP's didn't have second homes in London? Come off it. So how come Ann Widdicombe has a second home then?
Re: You've got me in stitches
[info]sara_sense wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 03:15 pm (UTC)
Totally agree. The irony is, since the big strong men 'allowed' us silly little women to vote and have jobs and stuff, many male, married MPs will have an extra income from a woman who is more than likely well paid. (Cherie earnt loads more than old Tone!)

"Today’s girls are more demanding and some of them are also sceptical as to what precisely the husband gets up to during those long nights in London. So there is more pressure on MPs to ensure that family life can take place in both residences. That adds to costs."

Girls? Some of them are sceptical?? Jeeeeebus this guy lives in an imaginary world. By girls I think he means ladies and by sceptical I think he means 'want their husbands to spend some family time'. I'm also presuming that he is applying the same philosophy to the husbands of lady MPs?? Demanding boys who are sceptical of what their wives get up to when they are away and want time spent with them in their constituency home as well?

There is definitely a time and a place for a good old rant and, luckily for me, humanist21 below kind of says it all.
Re: You&#39;ve got me in stitches - [info]andrea_2 - Monday, 18 May 2009 at 06:21 pm (UTC) Expand
He is taking the piss right?
[info]humanist21 wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 09:06 am (UTC)
After all I have read over the last 10 days...This takes the piss most of all!

Anderson and his bunch of low life cronies "STILL DON'T GET IT!" I know politicians are thick skinned but I never knew how thick headed they were.....After all the revelations and related anger...He still thinks it is the right of mp's to stick their grubby thieving hands into every tax payers pocket at a whim ...WE ELECTED THEM TO SERVE US!..NOT TO ROB US BLIND AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY AND TO PAT EACH OTHER ON THE BACK AND SAY WE ARE ALL JOLLY GOOD FELLOWS!....And I never usually say this word but I agree with previous posters Anderson you are not only a right CUNT!!! But you are a stupid CUNT as well
Politics is and always has been about money and power
[info]sketchley wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 09:18 am (UTC)
and both go together.

As those in the private sector know, 'fiddling' expenses is a sackable offence. We demand the same punishment for public servants.

Who cares if MPs have friendly journalists like Mr Anderson who will try and play down the seriousness f the issue. The whole political spectrum in this country is corrupt. These people don't serve the people, they serve the corporations - big business, as do modern day journalists.

Britain stinks. I am deeply ashamed to be British.
Bruce Anderson on Most MPs
[info]john_danziger wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 09:24 am (UTC)
Anderson has unwittingly revealed something rather suggestive about claims for expenses on a second home.
Oliver Letwin, whom he defends, has a tennis court with his second home!
Need one say more?
Danziger
It's All a Big Conspiracy
[info]loveablelefty wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:09 am (UTC)
Yes, this is a devlishly cunning plot by Bruce to force me to agree with (almost) every word that he has written here.

A rare note of perspective and common sense, especially from him.

There's always a first time - and I rather suspect - a last one as well.
To Bruce,
[info]sara_sense wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:10 am (UTC)
The first paragraph of your article only begs one question and it is of a more philosophical nature: is one able to meet oneself?

The rest was carp.
What a strange man
[info]kuma2000 wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:21 am (UTC)
Firstly Brucey boy you miss the point that the public really care about the expenses, actually they don't, they care about the fact that their voice is entirely excluded from the way the country is run. I agree that we should cover the second home costs of our MPs though I do believe that this has been cynically exploited by MPs who never expected to be check up on. However some of the reasons you give our sheep crap - MPs should have bigger homes so their wives don't think they are off shagging - it doesn't seem to stop them does it, for example Prescot and a grace and favour mansion but he was happily fucking that bird in his office? Liberals are to blame bitching about local candidates - too damn right, the big two parties ship in their mates to "safe seats" who generally have no interest in the area except that it is there ticket into the Westminster old boys club - when I lived in Northampton we had an MP who lived in Kent so where did their loyalties lie? MPs should be able to demonstrate ties to an area and live within it. And governments holding back salary increases? We all know that MPs regularly vote themselves above inflation pay rises so do not patronize me, and 65 grand for an unskilled part time job (with opportunities for well paid "overtime" readily available) is pretty good going - compare that to a Tesco checkout worker who is also doing a low-skill part time job and see how they compare.
Most MPs are decent people?
[info]bruceburniston wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC)
I wonder what evidence Mr Anderson has of decent MPs. The expenses fiddling - the employment of close relatives to boost household income - the passing of a law to exempt them from benefit in kind taxes - the increase to their pensions at the same time Gordon Brown launched his raid on private pension funds - all makes me think that decent MPs must be very much in the minority. And please spare us the sob story about having to maintain two homes. In the Armed Services, families who want their own home have to pay for it. If they want to be close to their spouse who is posted away they have to pay the rent for a married quarter as well. Service people are prepared to lay down their lives. MPs are not prepared even to lay down their lunch.
Brucey Baby is on drugs...
[info]pokerknave wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC)
...or is one of those weirdo's who likes to doff his cap and tug his forelock.

Just because he gets his kicks out of 'knowing his place' in society do not expect me and others to do likewise. Oliver Letwin deserves all the crap he gets for his burst pipe claim and if his wife dosen't like it - tough!
You cretin
[info]kanchenjunga wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:37 am (UTC)
Well articulated mannygoldstein, spot on. These people together with the financial class should be given a oneway ticket to Helmand Province and find out what it means to have integrity, honour and a fine sense of duty doing a spot of fighting the Talaban.

Parliament and the city are a total disgrace and a boil on the arse of so called democracy. The whole system must be changed by an independent body based on the will of the people.
They have been taking the piss for far too long and this society needs an excellence which is not found in the chambers of power, perhaps we the electorate will now wake up and humiliate these morons.

Don't vote for the scum, spoil your papers and then we might realise that all of these parties are past their sell by date and I mean all of them; party politics as we know it is dead.
[info]lineswine wrote:
Monday, 18 May 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
Bruce - you r piece is condescending at the very least, at worst it sounds like a lecture for having the temerity to actually say people with access to the public purse shouldn't use it as a bottomless pit to support their lifestyles.
If I had a burst pipe, do you think I'd be able to claim on public monies?
Here's an idea...it might just work - how about Letwin pay for it out of his own money? He can hardly be said to be hard up...quite the contrary. This has not stopped him from dipping into the public purse now, has it?
As for the "cleaning out the moat via taxpayer money", try explaining the fairness of that to someone on minimum wage, or someone who's lost their job, through no fault of their own, due to the sheer greed of bankers intent on securing the maximum bonus for themselves.

Greedy, self-serving reptiles, THAT is what the MPs are to the ordinary person in the street.
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