Bruce Anderson: The British admire their Army – but they don't understand it
No organisation in history has devoted so much care to training its members
There is a paradox. The modern British public has never admired its armed forces more, or understood them less. The incomprehension has been reinforced by social and cultural changes. In the first place, personal contact with the services is increasingly rare. You would need to be well over 80 to have fought in the last War, while the youngest former national servicemen are approaching their 70th birthdays – and since the IRA, off-duty soldiers have rarely worn their uniforms.
Though always warlike, we British have never been militaristic. We had peacetime conscription for a much shorter period than any other major power. But in the Fifties and Sixties, the forces were part of everyday life. Almost every family included someone who had served. Even after conscription, the Cold War ensured that the services were much larger than they are today. Now, we are returning to the 19th century, when the relatively small armed forces were much more cut off from the rest of society than they were from the Boer War until the last phase of the 20th century.
There is a further factor; the decline in belief in an afterlife. At the end of the Chanson de Roland, as the last Frankish knights are overwhelmed, Archbishop Turpin assures them that he and they will shortly be feasting in Heaven. Few of us now think that our fallen heroes will be similarly compensated. At the same time, fewer and fewer people have exhausting and dangerous jobs. By volunteering for discipline, hardship and danger, the forces stand apart.
This has lead to a widespread misconception. Confronted by this willingness to risk death and eschew comfort, far too many otherwise intelligent people have reached an ignorant and stupid conclusion: that soldiers volunteer because they are thick. Over the past few weeks, a number of journalists who should have known better have expressed surprise at meeting soldiers who could do joined-up talking.
The hacks in question should get out more. In the average officers' mess today, they all read books and some of them intend to write one or two. The table-talk is lively and stimulating, as one would expect, given the context of modern military operations. The phrase "pol-mil", short for political-military, is in regular use, because today's soldiers – even when much junior to Richard Dannatt – always have to be aware of political factors.
That does not only apply to the officers. Owing to lack of opportunity, those in the ranks are usually less well-educated. This does not mean that they lack either intellect or intellectual curiosity. They ask probing questions and expect thoughtful answers. They want to know what they are doing and why.
The NCOs are the backbone of any good army. They effectively train the young officers. But so do the men. It is not easy to lead thinking soldiers, which brings us to another common misconception. A lot of people who know nothing about the military assume that officers have an easy life. No need to worry about trade unions or contracts of employment; just bark out your orders, and the automata will obey.
The reality is more complex. It is true that basic training instils obedience. It is equally true that no officer will get the best out of his men unless they respect him. Any officer who cannot earn that respect will not last long. All regiments have time-honoured ways of squashing youngsters fresh from Sandhurst who are foolish enough to think that because they have been commissioned, they must know a thing or two. The Greenjackets will tell a new officer that although he has passed the driving test, they will now teach him to drive.
All this brings out the best in young platoon commanders. When he was Chief of the Defence Staff, Lord Guthrie rejected the suggestion of an all-graduate officer entry. He argued that plenty of useful 18-year-old boys were fed-up with book-work. So let them spend a few years jumping out of armoured vehicles and helicopters – if they can find one – or leading their platoon up a wadi.
Then, if the boy is serious about soldiering, there will be the junior division of the Staff College, followed by Staff College itself, to teach him to think about the profession of arms. Charles Guthrie was right. We do not need to insist that all officers are graduates. The Army already ensures that almost everyone promoted beyond Captain is of good graduate quality.
With the possible exception of the Jesuits, no organisation in history has devoted so much care to training its members as the modern British armed forces. In that respect, over-stretched budgets have their uses. Because their resources are so limited, the forces have learned to make maximum use of everything: their manpower above all. In the 1650s, Cromwell's Army was the best in the world. A couple of years ago, today's Army could have made a similar claim, at least on a man-for-man basis.
In recent months, however, there has been a difficulty. This is nothing to do with the calibre of the men, which is as high as ever. But the equipment shortages are imposing a cost. In Iraq, we found it increasing hard to keep up with the Americans: in Basra during the Charge of the Knights, embarrassingly so. Something similar is happening in Afghanistan, and there is a further problem.
The British Army has another age-old custom: patronising the Yanks, along the lines of a pre-war story. American warships arrive in Hong-Kong harbour, and their flagship signals to ours: "How is the second-biggest Navy in the world this morning?" The reply was instantaneous : "We're fine. How is the second best?"
Apropos of Iraq and Afghanistan, one heard the same story. The Americans were splendid fellows and their muscle was indispensable. What a pity they could not do hearts and minds.
That may no longer be applicable. As often happens under the stress of conflict, American military doctrine has evolved. They have adapted to the terrain and they are now better at hearts and minds. Not only has British humour failed to keep up with these developments: the Yanks are aware of what we say about them, and they do not like it. There is not yet a crisis. But if the Americans were to conclude that we were better at bitching about them than at joining in the heavy lifting, a defence partnership that once seemed unbreakable could be in jeopardy.
We urgently need a defence review, and not in order to produce further economies. Although there is scope for re-deployments, there is no scope for reducing the defence budget – unless we want to imperil our ability to conduct high-intensity warfare. We have to think through the relationship between resources and commitments. That will not happen under this brain-dead Government. Perhaps the Tories should ask General Dannatt to undertake the task, once he retires.
In the meantime, there is one conclusion to be drawn. Anyone tempted to despair of our country's future should consider the armed forces, and think again.
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May be not so great after all that "unofficial" torture of the captured in Basra and killing of civilians like Baha Musa.
Thinking you can substitute heart and minds for poor and outdated equipment is rather like telling your men victory is theirs, all they have to do is kiss the enemy to death.
And to suggest that our officers are all Rennaissence Men leading squadies up wadis (!) and penning books in the officers mess.......dear God, what's James Blunt then?
To volunteer for a profession which has as its sole purpose to kill people and cause misery, they must be stupid, desperate or sociopaths. Which would you prefer us to believe?
Why do we hear so much about the body-count among our soldiers, and so little of the (far, far greater) civilian death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan? I don't believe this bullshit about the solders being well trained. If they were so, surely they could tell the difference between a wedding party and a Taliban camp, and bomb the latter instead of the former? No, sir, I do not admire our armed forces. Most of them, from the news most of the media tries to conceal, belong in the Hauge.
-- George Orwell
Perhaps that is what you prefer to believe, well order up another Coffee Latte and prattle on some more and be grateful that "desperate sociopaths" are there to guard your lilly white bottom and preserve your pointless lifestyle, well at least until the next Bradford born suicide bomber turns up.
If Britain were in fact under threat from those countries, I might have a different opinion. But this is not a war of defence. We are the invaders in an American-led war of revenge and the majority of the casualties are civilians just trying to live their lives.
This war (as most), cannot be won by purely military means but, a negotiated settlement that finally the Afghan Government is prepared to accept that engages tribal interests on both sides of the Afghan - Pakistan border, is the only solution. It also happens to be the result that we in the UK want because of our own internal situation and circumstances.
However this will mean a further 2-3 years before all British and American troops are withdrawn. This may not be ideal, I would like to see us out of there asap but, it is the only practical solution given where we are now as opposed to where we may wish to be.
You are right in one respect, George Bush did pursue the overthrow of the Taliban for pure revenge over 9-11 but one one should remember that Bill Clinton before him launched cruise missiles against training camps inside Afghanistan. The original involvement was low level but this whole thing has been subject to mission creep and anyone imagining that a Western style democracy will emerge any time soon in Afghanistan, is totally nuts.
President Obama has set the tone, yes a 'surge' but he will be looking for results by the Mid Terms and will likely start immediate preparations for reducing the whole effort shortly afterwards.
Of course the Poppy crop is a major problem for us in Europe and forms the basis of the reasons why we cannot 'solve' anything much in Afghanistan because the cash it generates is huge along with the corruption it creates at every level of Afghan society. Probably it might be cheaper to introduce draconian punishments in the UK for dealing in hard drugs that include confiscation of personal property, regardless of whether or not it can be shown to be the proceeds of crime backed up with the Death Penalty. In other words attack the problem by choking off the demand and market that produces the cash in the first place.
As the picture you use shows, you are a rather immature person, do try and read up on stuff - broadly and form your own opinions rather than blurt out the unthinking slogans that your school friends like. Be a real revolutionary - use your brain.
It was the Iraq war I referred to as illegal; and it was. True, no international organisation has yet had the guts to declare it so, but anyone who listened to the US and UK presentation of their so-called evidence to the UN just prior to the invasion could not fail to see how flimsy some of it was and how obviously fake was the remainder. The whole thing was broadcast live and can probably still be found online: Powell and Straw's presentations would have been laughable if the issue hadn't been so deadly serious. Few who looked at the "evidence" could have been surprised that no WMD were ever found.
Actually, there is a simple solution to the problem of the poppy fields in Afghanistan: legitimise the industry and let the big drug companies buy the crop for their own legitimate purposes. Many of the deepest pockets in the pharmaceutical industry are based in the UK; most of the rest are in the US and they can all use a good supply of opium. It's a policy that has worked elsewhere but it will only work if the people of the country are on-side. Mass bombings of civilians are unlikely to achieve that.
The war in Afghanistan cannot be won, period. The Russians tried for a long time, now it's our turn and the government is throwing away lives and money on a useless battle. Neither can we hope for a lasting negotiated settlement with an Afghan goverment that only exists because it's backed by US threats...and no one who gives a damn about human rights should be negotiating with them anyway. Not that it matters, because the Afghan government does not represent the people who will have to quit fighting if any peace agreement is to mean anything.
You are the one parrotting the usual right-wing propaganda, not I. You might try doing a little research for a change.
With regard to the Opium crop, it has often been asked just why we in the West just don?t buy up the whole crop and use it for medicinal purposes ?
Whilst on the surface totally logical, I suspect that the reason it hasn?t been seriously tried and likely never will is simply that in a tribal society, it wouldn?t take them 5 minutes to work out that ?skimming the crop? through understating yields by say 10 percent and selling that on a black market, combined with the guaranteed buy price for the rest, would be far more profitable and safer than the current system.
As with most things, there would be both good and bad in this situation. The ?black market crop? would push up the street price in the West but also increase the likelihood of greater violence and corruption along the whole route from Helmand through Pakistan and so on.
Oddly I understand, whilst the Taliban were in charge of Afghanistan, they throttled off a lot of Opium production on religious grounds. In a controlled market, local Tribal Chiefs and Warlords rather than the Central Government would control Opium production so, I don?t think buying the crop would work in the way intended.
In my previous entry I wrote: "This war (as most), cannot be won by purely military means but, a negotiated settlement that finally the Afghan Government is prepared to accept that engages tribal interests on both sides of the Afghan - Pakistan border, is the only solution. It also happens to be the result that we in the UK want because of our own internal situation and circumstances."
You write: "The war in Afghanistan cannot be won, period. The Russians tried for a long time, now it's our turn and the government is throwing away lives and money on a useless battle. Neither can we hope for a lasting negotiated settlement with an Afghan goverment that only exists because it's backed by US threats...and no one who gives a damn about human rights should be negotiating with them anyway. Not that it matters, because the Afghan government does not represent the people who will have to quit fighting if any peace agreement is to mean anything."
I must therefore that suppose that you are not bright enough to read let alone debate anything, the sounds inside your own head are clearly too loud to listen to anybody else. Sure my views politically are right of centre but that doesn't make me a neocon though it might make me more of a realist particularly over this situation. If you had bothered to read, you would notice that I also wrote that personally I would want our troops out asap but appreciated that would not be possible - so that is a Right Wing view, hmm, how interesting.
Afghanisan did not start a war with the USA or UK.
It was Bush's statement "any friend of an enemy of the USA is our enemy". This is what caused the invasion. The people of Britain didnt want to go to war with the Iraqi or the Afghans. But Blairs obligations to Bush made us go. Bush had the leverage to twist enough arms at the UN to tag along other countries (all muppets).
British soldiers sign up to protect the UK, not to act as pawns in an international game of politics. The support for the USA has caused the terrorism on the UK.
Afghanistan under the Taliban "DID START A WAR WITH THE WEST".
What you do not seem to take into account was a series of 'events' prior to 9-11, it was not the only one and as I have mentioned before, the "Not George Bush President" (hope you caught that one), Bill Clinton launched Cruise Missiles at training camps inside Afghanistan.
The real Muppets are people like you who are too lazy or ignorant (fill in your own blank), to grasp the situation and only want "BBC Ceebies" explanations for everything in their life, just how are the Tele-Tubbies doing one wonders though frankly not concerned with your reply.
"British soldiers sign up to protect the UK..." Yes they do except in doing that, they accept that political control of what they do is decided by our directly elected representatives in the House of Commons. If they (the House of Commons), say "protecting our UK citizens is best done by killing people in Afghanistan", that is what we want, that is what they do.
Is this too quick for you ?
Finally and how embarrassing that a Beano reader gets to post but,does your Mother know that you are out and unattended by a dog walker or, are you using the communal areas without permission ?
Yes you are right this problem started before 9/11. The USA has been interfering with middle east politics for many decades. This is specially true of Arabia. This is what al-queda was aginst.
Where the al-queda went wrong was their view on acceptable civilian deaths as collateral damage.
The Taliban DID NOT start a war with the USA and its allies. The mistake they made was to allow members of al-queda to live along side them.
This means the invasion of Afghanistan was illegal. Its only because USA is able to twist enough arms that members of the UN allowed it.
Its good to see you have a smart mouth, shame you thought process are all over the place. You should try to analyse the information you get from official sources.
Either way, the USA and UK have gone to Afghanistan to get humbled. The rest of the allies, like you say, are on holiday there. Superpowers go to Afghanistan to be humbled - this time there is nothing different.
The downside of what USA and UK have done is the great loss of image around the world. This is going to inpact deals with non-puppet governments for a long time to come.
It will be interesting to see how relationships develop between the Muslim nations and the new superpower on the block (ignoring the current problems in Xinjiang) as they start reducing trade with USA and UK.
How to start explaining reality to someone like you is at least 5 bob short of a Pound on your best day is difficult to explain but I will try and give you a clue so please, difficult as it maybe, do try to keep up:
To me personally, just why we stopped the First Gulf War when we did, defeats me, at the time in the middle of a lot of sand, I went ape shit and a very nice Arabian person, explained it all to me in some detail and after I listened, I was embarrassed and understood the political dimension although from a military point of view, I knew that this was a very wrong decision.
However and like the World Wars, without understanding the WWI you cannot even comprehend WWII, so too with the Gulf Wars and Afghanistan.
It was probably the Arab States who insisted that Saddam should not be totally destroyed because Iran or Persia is always a problem and a strong bulwark is what they want paid for but delivered by Western Troops. These thoughts are where you need to start... Good Luck, it is far more complex than you can imagine.
You sound like a teenage chav attempting to be clever - so top marks for effort.
Thanks for your input, some of what you say is true and does makes sense but without eloquent use of English, you are unable to deliver your message, in a terse and clear manner.
Your superiority complex is getting in the way of you have a sane, meaningful and coherent conversation - too bad, might be better for you to stick with simpler subjects.
It may help you to understand that whilst the tabloid press and, clearly you, like simple headlines, the reality is somewhat more complex and, especially in the Middle/Far East,
Still I am grateful for your kind and condescending reply, likely the best that you could manage - well done you, Ceeb-beebies awaits you, I am sure that you will enjoy totally, will seem like your version of reality Boo hoo !
In simple terms and for reasons likely beyond your perception:
India and China may well prove to be the new "Super Powers" but common sense will tell you that this is highly unlikely for a number of reasons not least of which is a "failed western business model" China realises this which is why they are mooting their currency as a "global one" but frankly, they are too late, their past 'holding down of the value of the Yuan to ensure sales in the USA has screwed them.
Research and later, much later you have an awful lot to learn, consider Chinese Economic Growth against a background of the USA. Consider the sources, the trade-off's and compromises on both sides but, most of all ask the simple question; "In whose interests ?"
I would like to see more comment made on the cowardice shown by our fellow Nato members quite happy to sit back in their barracks and let the big 3 take the fight and dying.
I am ashamed of the Euro countries lack of will and courage and makes me dislike intensely even more the whole corrupt edifice that is the growing Euro federal state governed by duplicitous politicians who are so happy to see our boys die to save their own skins.
A pox on them all I say Sir!!
The French were the first to "crumble" in the sense that whilst the ruling elite love "Glory", the French public had rather given up on it. The final proof of this was the First Gulf War - Operation Desert Storm, until they turned up, no one knew whether the French were going to be part of that Alliance or not.
To my mind and in part, my reasons for thinking that the EU is a total crock of dark brown stuff, is that Europe generally has lived under the American nuclear umbrella for decades and has spent little on their own defence. At the same time they have the high opinion that they can do without the US and hiss and moan about them too, to me, I find this both unacceptable and dangerous, gorged on oil and gas, the Russian Bear is restive once again, what is Brussels going to do ? Georgia is but the start.
What you miss is one crucial part of the equation which has less to do with the "mission" and more to do with European public acceptance. Ask yourself just why if the French and Germans are so smart, they have any forces at all in Afghanistan albeit operating under virtually "non-combatant" rules which never-the-less have cost them casualties, 10 French the other month in an ambush.
Winston Churchill once said something along the following lines: "You can always rely on the Americans to 'do the right thing', after they have tried everything else."
The EU needs to get its collective head out of its collective bottom. Both morally and psychologically the two counties who run it, France and Germany, know that they cannot exist without the USA. They are the Hapsburg Empire to Germany in WWI.
Not just under Obama but also due to a significant sea change across the population, the USA has decided to limit its engagement with Afghanistan and it shows, my personal bet being that the last US troops will be homeward bound in Summer 2012, you can bet on that one ! As to the "ever so clever Continental Europeans, expect lots of US bum sucking just prior to that !
"Winston Churchill once said something along the following lines: You can always rely on the Americans to 'do the right thing', after they have tried everything else."
Completely agree with this comment. The USA will be humbled in Afghanistan, after trying everything, they will then put their tail between their legs and go back home - the right thing to do.
"Both morally and psychologically the two counties who run it, France and Germany, know that they cannot exist without the USA."
Was it not Germany who were powerful enough to taken on the known world? and that was two times with in space of about 20 years - you make them sound like some 3rd world country. I have to disagree with your conclusions on this one.
Your 'replies' are ignorant in the sense that they are devoid of 'context' and two things are important above all, context and sequence, between them they decide everything.
I hope you get the "A" levels results you desire, most do and the Course of your choice. Good Luck !
The arrogance of senior military men needs to be kicked into touch, they have little to be arrogant about, and should have the humility to realise they can learn too, especially now from America. Maybe there is an argument for a major clear out of dead wood in the Army and an opportunity for a rethink.
I don't expect any such intelligence form Labour, but I am not sure Cameron and co get it either. the comment opportunistically, but I hear no strategic thought.
Deepcut? The most extreme example of the 'care' meted out by the British army to its volunteers, and by no means an isolated case.
Please leave me out of this but herer is hush hush news.
But evidence submitted by the Department of Trade and Industry to the Low Pay Commission's review of the minimum wage indicated a funda- mental shift in thinking. Fund a mental? I do not get this.
It is an option but any decision would be subject to consultation."
The full adult minimum wage was increased from £4.20 to £4.50 an hour in October. 2008. So we are waiting for the 2012?
Is this from 18 to 16? Is this extension or reduction? I am sorry I am lousy in Maths I never went to school.
The army in Afghanistan need 2000, Mr. Brown is sending, for now, 700. We are short of men. Reducing the age give Mr. Brown tax plus more soldiers, carpenters for the boxes, grocers for food, newspapers, less houses problems, more cars on the road , more chanced of saying ,?We have to go green and we need green cars like Ford had black???
President Barack Obama made his personal icy cool the trademark of his campaign, the tenor of his White House and the hallmark of an early run of successes at home and abroad. But as the glamour wears off and a long, frustrating summer wears on, he is being forced to improvise ? stooping to respond to political foes and adjusting his tactics and demeanor for the trench warfare of a legislative agenda.
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
A child's education should begin at least one hundred years before he is born. -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894)
YOU talk of 1600 I say 100 that is 1700
now we are in 2009 going to 2010
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
1) In multinational camps (such as Bosnia) British squaddies were barred from drinking with their multinational comarades (who managed to peacefully laugh and share a joke together) due to druken, foul-mouthed, yobbish violence (think tanked up British football hooligans and you get the picture) They were confined to makeshift Brit only bars where they drank excessively, watched endless Sky Sports TV and traded hardcore pornography DVDs, the most violent porn movies being the most sought after.
2) Many of the officers were laughably inept, the less intelligent progeny of an obviously diminishing gene pool, who signed up as a natural progression from the boy scouts and the Duke of Edinburgh award. I once watched an officer set about cleaning a mud encrusted Challenger tank with a dustpan and brush. He lasted five minutes before calling on the lower ranks to do the job properly while he disappeared for a free G&T from the officer mess bar.
3) As an anachronistic, class-ridden institution, it wastes hundreds of millions of pounds in grand projects while penny pinching on frontline essentials. The British soldier is forced to adopt a 'make do and mend' philosophy while vast sums are spent on defence contract hardware that is rarely fit for purpose.
4) The warrant officers ARE the British Army - resourceful, astute and hard as nails. The chinless Majors and Brigadiers know this and are happy to talk geo-politics and maneovours in the officers mess bar while the warrant officers actually get on with running the army.
5) I once watched a Major and his minions muse over the fixing of a broken camp toilet block as if it was the D-Day landings. Sat their watching them in their uniforms and listening to their clipped accents I saw boy scouts looking for their next badge. The toilet block had been broken for three weeks and they were now on Plan D.
I could go on but everytime I see or hear British people pump up their chests and proudly declare the British Army the best and most noble fighting force in the world I have to stifle a laugh. A question I would like to ask these people is - the next time turn your nose up at a homeless drunk on the street - just remember there's a very good chance he once served in the British military (about 1 in 3 to be precise)
The greatest tradegy of the soldier, which has been repeated throughout history, is that, for all the pomp, the shiny badges and fine words, when they leave the society that they risked their lives for couldn't give a toss about them.
Thanks for sharing that - an insiders view of the way it is.
This is what worries me. When soldiers have captured some civilians whilst on combat, eg, in Iraq in a back alley, in a field or as prisioners and no one is watching. Do some of these soldiers revert to their friday night laddish/ape-man persona and knock around their captives until they are black and blue (oops - killing some accidently too). Professionalism and morality goes out of the window whilst no one is watching???
I must say that the use of the phrase "Warrant Officers" is a bit of a give away, where the 'Sam Hill' were you ? Wong word my friend, it is NCOs or Non-Commissioned Officers and they, as the casualty role shows, are the backbone of all Infantry operations, there is no subaltern, newly commissioned that would last 24 hours without his Company Sergeant and his Corporals, let alone the troops.
Sorry Mate and I may well be wrong but, there is nothing you have posted that seems genuine and real, a Summer Camp with 15 year olds just really doesn't do it for me, maybe for you - who knows ?
Long after we have lost interest, again, in Afghanistan the Taliban will still be there. Anyone who backs us must be mad, we will leave and they will be "sorted out" by the residents;
Britons want armed forces which can do the "big jobs", yet ignorance of those forces "jobs" has led to the British public tolerating the evisceration of those armed forces in order to free up money for a perpetually expanding nanny state which constantly watches, re-educates, cajols, hectors, and threatens its people into conforming to a new ideal. This might not be so bad if that new ideal made Britain's survival increasingly likely...but it doesn't, Instead, it coddles serious (actually potentially lethal) threats to the civil order and insanely threatens law-abiding citizens with jail if they protect themselves from criminals who have entered their home.
If your social-engineering government wants you to understand that you must have "permission" to defend your self and your family, how can they expect you to understand the Army, Air Force, and Navy which must ALREADY defend you?!?
If your increasingly all-powerful state wants you to identify with the criminals and "protected xenophobes" within the UK who want to hurt or intimidate you, how can they expect you to recognize the threats from outside your country who want to hurt or dominate your country and its people?!?
The seemingly increasing emasculation and dumbing-down (of BOTH our British AND American societies) is dangerous to us all. However, Americans are about twice as likely to know a serving soldier as, compared to Britons (due to twice the per capita military membership) and an innately lower tolerance for government intrusion than Britons currently have. President Obama (like any Chicago politician) is trying to change that but won't succeed as more Americans are finally seeing through him...just like Britons did the first time he set foot in your country!
Folks, it comes down to this: Every citizen needs to know a modest amount about military affairs in order to know what YOUR country NEEDS for its defense; that way, we are not vulnerable to the deceitful words of politicians who tell us that we need too little (or too much). The first step is to recognize that EACH of US has that intellectual responsibility; the second step is probably to get to know a soldier (or airman, sailor, or marine). In an imperfect world, our societies need them...and THEY NEED US.
BTW: the entire active duty armed forces of the UK are now smaller than the United States Marine Corps...and NO, the actual combat results are not showing the justification for any British condescension towards "the Yanks". My father (who served 4 years of WWII in and around ENGLAND) raised me to be a bit of an Anglophile, and Britain's current military weakness and moral self-doubt deeply sadden me (as much as the current President's ignorant disrespect for her enrages me).
Heavens, ladies and gentlemen! Be aware, strong, confident, and stop navel-gazing; we Yanks are supposed to be looking up to you, remember? ;-)
-Jay Crawford
However, from the remarks made by our overly-political and historically ignorant fellow readers, it seems that all they're armed with is plastic sporks and blind fury.
I guess that's why they think they can win.
Well, at least they aren't violating any anti-pocket knife laws!
Seriously, it's a pleasure to read your retorts.
Well spoken!